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time action or time seeing welcome back to going underground rule got single around the world from the u. a. e. tomorrow is the day you as president elect donald trump was meant to be sentenced to jail for up to 4 years of a so called hush money payments. but is outgoing president binding the real criminal who should be in jail off that he violated the will of the american people by trying to start and all of nato nuclear war with russia. as trump continues making cabinet picks that vote as hopeless handle was promised something the end of the world may happen before he makes it to the white house in time. already russian tv is envisaging the wiping out of british cities in germany and newest major members. sweden have issued nuclear war guidance through it citizens. joining me again from new york is the official who was donald trump's white as communications director in the last and ministration of denise chiron, woochie. he's also the rules of the best selling book from wall street to the white house and back the sky and woochie guide to unbreakable resilience and founder of

the global investment from sky bridge capital. tony, thanks so much for coming back on before we go to crypto cabinet picks. uh warren piece, a caroline leave it to use the point of the youngest ever press assist in press. secretary, who would have been in your old department of communications. any advice i bought from reading the reading, your book? no doubt as well. i mean, look at the problem is, you know, he's going to want her to lie for him. and you know, that job does require some lying. no matter what president you're running with or being a part of other means just unfortunately that's a tough spot to be in. but i would say to her, she's 27 years old. i try to keep the line to a minimum. if you can, you know, don't, don't get pushed into something like, you know, you really hurt spicer when he told spicer to go out and say that my crowd sizes were bigger than obama's, when empirically, they were not. and so i would just tell her try to keep the line to

a minimum. but good luck. yeah, let her lives over the bible. harris have been just ration, obviously. i mean, you've said you didn't want that and then look or you go, you run for public office, you lie. and if you stand at the podium, you know, i only had one press commerce on the white house and up. i think i distinguish myself by not lying, but it also costs me because when i left the podium, there were 3 or 4 republican operatives and said to me, hey, what the hell is wrong? you. you can't talk like that from the white house. you've got to be more. oh, bleak, and you've got to be more obfuscating. and of course i'm on my wall street or so i'm not really designed like that. and then 11 days later i get fired. that's uh if, if people didn't know are watching. i mean, you didn't want jump elected as there is genocide in this region. so a lot of people have ideas about at least the wars may have a chance of ending. but you personally benefit from trumps incorporation of crypto

perhaps into the economy and how excited all you that. finally we have a president who's suddenly the people around him embraced the new technology that certainly here in dubai. and most of the rest of the world that i and using the years a listen, i made my points of concern well known about the president and what the risk for having and return to the presidency. the american people have spoken. we live still in a democracy and hopefully that will continue. and i respect the electoral success that he's had. he won the popular vote as well as the electoral college. i've offered my congratulations to him in your moscow. i think they ran a very well executed campaign, wasn't in love with a lot of the things that were being said, i mean, i mean what he says he's gonna use the american military to go after his political habits original as very on americans. so hopefully he's not going to do that. we'll have to see what he does, but as it relates to the crypto currency space,

i tried to tell the democrats you're going to get it. now. i waited for this position, they didn't listen. there's a pack of political action committee in the united states called fair shake. they deployed a quarter $1000000000.00 into these races. i don't know if this is to inside baseball but shared ground. it was the head of the senate banking committee, very important, influential sen from ohio, 18 years, and the senate he got ousted primarily because the crypto community put 40000000 dollars into his opponent's campaigns. so, you know, democrats didn't listen. mr. trump, you like or dislike, and president trump, he's got great political instincts. and so i liked the fact these pro crypto. there are things about his policies that i do like, but i don't like the rhetoric. i don't like the do you meet the human ization talk? he talks about non white immigrants of the country, the way the national socialist talked about the jews and the 1930. i don't,

i don't think that the human icing is i wanted to get on a crypto a bit more before we went into that. but as you know, mass. so we tribes into the latino community, the african american community. these minorities were the people that voted for trump, michigan. clearly av america is the you don't share your view. he, he gained, he gain ground in those areas, but the, he doesn't have the plurality in those areas, the gain ground in those areas. what was interesting about everybody in life? when the exit polling, the latino community said, oh, they're talking about the other latins, they're not talking about me. and this is a very big danger in life. you know, when, when it's an us versus them. it's a very big danger if you're talking in a demonizing way about one group. the domino starts a topple into the other groups. it's not, it's not necessary or a country like this, a prosperous, free country, but this level of economic activity in the country and the check and balance system

and the plurality of the country is not necessary to talk like that. so yeah, you're right. he gain ground and that the, the big mistake lot of people make it to us versus them. he's talking about them is that talking about me. but you know what, when he's talking about them, it could eventually hit you, you know, is, is difficult when you're in the rest of the world looking on because you, you see what bite in harris did as regards the war in western europe. the refusal to have negotiations, the pumping of billions of dollars of american public money into that war in europe, into israel to commit. what are the, you know, what i mean time as a it's, it's difficult for somebody to actually work. so hold on a 2nd. i know, cuz i know i love you because i'm says he's going to end up. dr. trump says he wants to started but, but who started the war? we started the war. uh well, many people believe it was the 2014 cool, but just to go right back to that right now where we're at is where we need negotiation. that's the view of the american people behind with law. i'm in

agreement is i'm in agreement with that. i would like that word and i think that there's a unfortunately with the war you get countless on speaker, people civilian casualties and meet even the military casualties are also tragic and unspeakable. so i'm all about for around a way to end that war. you know, i have a lot of russian friends and a lot of russian clients, this is not an anti russian statement, but, you know, i, they, i think there are people in europe that are concerned about russian aggression. i mean, let me just pose this to you, finland, and sweden, 74 years, not in nato. excuse me guys. you need to be a nato. they say no, we don't need to be in nato in the 75th year. so let us wait and enter nato. so, and by the way they border of finland, borders the russian border of the, the russian government didn't really have to believe that they wouldn't. they wouldn't be an issue in guidance for nuclear war if they haven't joined nato arguably, but actually own ukraine. i can actually tie this up with the crypto. did you

believe it? oh no, no, no, no, no. all i know is your show. well, we're not going to nuclear war now. so you're telling me that they should be nuclear, lee threatened by them. no, no, no. sweden, in the past few days has issued new nuclear guidance to all of its citizens presume . exactly as a member of nato threatened after vladimir language and change and a trumpet. the new k adults, the yukon, the russians are going to dropped into them. so you're telling me that the russians are going to go from a eastern europeans theater war to a nuclear war with the europeans. is that what you're telling me? i think it's being made it completely clear from moscow that if a non nuclear state ukraine uses nuclear uses weapons, conventional weapons that are a satellite controlled or based from another nation that has nuclear weapons. and that's what the russians now say. basically,

we won an escalade re ladder under the, in the dying days, with abiding interest that will not, that will not in well for anybody that won't and well, for the europeans, the americans, the russians. and so i'm hoping the one of the reasons why we haven't deployed nuclear weapons since the 2nd world war is that there are some same people at the table on both sides. that won't bridge and compromise, indignant helped of letting me and who didn't in the do murder alone or as a good treaty is everyone's a slightly a little under by it. and the harris on the bible, harris it is now you the united states has given complete sovereignty. overall, our futures def, letting me approved in, and the do more, they can decide to attack now under their revise new to the doctor. i mean, these are the dying days of yours and love you, but you're, you're, you're making your syllogisms are not logically congregated. okay? so, and i, and i pretty but what you're saying is not true. they could have, it could have attacked under reagan, they could have attacked under kennedy the under i've just said under under

conclusion. let's change the new community. all right, we had a number come on, we had a security agreement that was established in 1994. the russians had no problem with it, so we had a security agree with the ukrainians. there were territorial borders that were accepted by the russians and the u when they crossed that territorial border. and so you're saying that the europeans that had the security agreement with your ukrainians and the americans that had the security agreement shouldn't have operated and executed the security agreement. so i was, i was going to come, i, i don't want to over litigate be, i mean, you know, that, that i go to one of the mentors. this all was a lot of and i love the russian people, but i'm not, we don't can't talk nonsense, we gotta talk clarity. okay, so, so i want the ward and i want the integrity of these borders to be

a internationally your knowledge. and i think trump's gonna surprise people by the way, on this issue. so i, i don't think, you know, if he has a good relationship with president putin, i don't necessarily think he's gonna role for president putting if anything, if i were in that situation i would tell present putting, you can make me look bad. let's have the were end, but some type of demilitarized zone, some type of buffer zone, some type of safety for everybody. but let's have this thing and so that the violence, you know, you're talking about dropping a nuclear bomb and finland, i mean, come on guys, you can't do that. actually it'd be more like nonsense to go upfront under the new . okay. so even if it's actually just be getting back from you as well as getting just written by site, it's not that's not going to end well for anybody you mind clearly not to really know. i'm not saying that bid to that's one. anyone, once you, you are speaking to some of these people in the trump administration, and walt said his national security adviser pick said the, taking the hank off. so handcuffs off the long range weapons we provided you. great

. and apparently lots of these picks uh, backing up what you said about a trump file for him being a peacemaker. and wanting to go down the escal, deescalate 3, that would be the head. rubio. uh huh. i mean, are they gonna follow trumps orders, or are they still on the side of the military industrial complex wanting this war to go up the, you know what trump ordered? see, you know, how do you know which ones orders are? you know, up, trump is picking these people for a reason, you know, he, he may be signaling the people that we're going to get to a piece. but the russians may not be overly satisfied with the piece. the ukrainians may not be overly satisfied with the piece, but we, we need to get to a piece, you know, one of the things that the founders of the united states said about compromise is that both sides would not like it. okay, but they set the system up to more so you're talking exactly like donald trump right now. that's exactly what trauma now get. that's what tropes being saying. as

this war is be getting worse and worse and, and hundreds of thousands of ukrainians have been been killed. surely. what would your well let you be the secretary of state and the president united states? what would you like to see what we would want rubio or lincoln let, let boot and take the ukraine? somebody though, i think they, they had, they had 300 years of conquests over the ukrainian soil. and it became, it restored sovereignty in 1990. we'd hang on to the stop out of copy of that more from the form of white as communications director after the break the course it near worse, lots of stuff is a lot out of the g at the fortune of us. and that suddenness portions here goes away with the results of the story and pushing nick or studio. and i see for sure

option that this be so efficient for store to look are good. so go straight and you want to do it was, he's going to, you're locked into the door. so it has to say is the natural logos of it. so form a ship portion or the, or you may think about a foot by still new about shovel in gold. and if i say this close, i use a category stores for us at ocean. i continue to go out and i get bull. and now probably not sure the south be strong, clear, but i still don't. so you can do so full, so comfortable at the blog post and discovery. smith gosh, care for which boys coming out on the bus, which is still going to me. so i'm on the publisher, i'm just, i'm a got the near go use the talk about some of what you get to talk about as there's dorski a whole bunch bundle of the circle. comfortable the some about on there. not

. i mean, yeah, the desktop i do have both come similar to stuff, some of the the welcome back to going underground. absolutely. within the way that is communications direct transfer. these current woochie, tony, i know you were in the middle of, you know, we're talking about the ukraine war from is it from the beginning? i didn't really want to get back into that because hopefully we can see it into it . if by the cnn to the war, like i said, i loved the russian people, i loved their culture. i would like the big, the, the, the both sides to put down their arms. obviously, you know, it'd be better for the world. well then only as trump the picks out, you know, he was strong enough to resist john bolton as being on this show, the hawkish national security advisor last did a bit of time and was from his ma'am was, is really trying to get jump to do with things he is,

bolton is not jobs to me. that's what trump says. he brought them into rooms and use them really be similarly be using some of these of people who are the people might think gotten a job smoker. rubio and others very different to the policies of our of k junior to somewhere but and so, and now now we're getting to really good questions. okay. so, so that, that i actually agree with. so i think there's a rotissery that happens in trump world. you come, you come in on the conveyor belt, they hand you a mag hat, you're waving to the crowd and as you go by drop each of you in the back. and there's been a legion of people that he's done that too. and so what trump is masterful, as it always figures out a way to bring more people into the mix, whether it's, you know, a mos tulsa gabbert or f k junior. and so the real question is, are they going to have a different experience than john bolton, mark, milly, mark esper, and john kelly, that's the real question. and so i would submit back to you that the definition of

insanity is to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different outcome so. so i think we're going to, i think we're going to see a lot of that in the 2nd. trump administration, and i think it will be unfortunate. look, i mean, i would like the organization of administration and the effectual ration of pop policy to lead to great peace, great global prosperity. but you know, he's casting that administration, you know, he's putting people that are former television hosts, television stars, into the administration. are they the best qualified people? i don't know, he's entitled to do whatever he wants. and of course, the set it has to approve it. but, you know, i mean it's, it's, it's going to be difficult, you know, that it will be difficult. but, but the point i was trying to make with that is he actually a, when everyone says he's a weak character. he's actually a strong character. who brings these people in with different positions. so when he's negotiating, the opponent doesn't really know where it's coming from. i don't,

i don't, i don't see that way actually. you know, i, the, i think the, the, the president has great communication skills is a great campaign, or he has great political instincts. but one of his deposition is an executive management. he's not a great executive manager. he ran a great television show, but he has never been known to put an organization together, create a culture delegate things to people. it's really been a one man show. and so what ends up happening is these people, if they take any sort of credit or they get into the spotlight in any sort of way, he hits them with a re gone. so, you know, he, he put a lot of cabinet members against each other last time and they were all afraid to do something that he didn't like. they were afraid he was gonna outcome and embarrass them with the presidential suite. and so i don't you have to tell me how any of that has changed, you know, i, i don't see the, for the chess that other people are talking about. i, i don't,

i don't see it. and the tools, the gab, it's a job as the director of national intelligence. i mean, it's clear that the deep states, or maybe just the state, don't like a trump. and with respect to your position as guide, bridge capital, do you believe the markets are being rigged? a little ahead of trumps and all your ration very dangerous right now for leverage trades. i know that you knew some back when freed some people said that was to do with ukraine. and certainly there was a lot of talk about crypto laundering for ukraine beforehand. would you people expect the head of an organization day? as regards a sudden demps, i'm sudden rises and i'm not a, i'm not a i'm not a conspiracy theorist but so i don't accept that stuff that you're saying or you don't need it if he has no evidence of any of that. but what i would say to you is that the market perceives that donald trump is not going to do what he says.

so when donald trump says he's going to put the 600 percent terrace on certain industries, the market says he's not going to do that. when donald trump says he's going to use the american military to go after his political adversaries. the mortgage says no, he's not going to do that with donald trump says he's going to deploy the military to the port 15000000 people from the united states, which would hurt the g. d. p probably pushes into a recession, lower tax revenues, lower the contributions to the social security trust. the market says he's not going to do that. so what the market saying is that trump is going to run the government like a moderate centrist republican. and he's gonna offer some levels of the regulation and regulatory reform for places like banking and crypto. and that's going to be generally good for the market. and because he has the house and the senate, he might be able to extend his tax scotts, which were set to expire, or he may be able to get an additional corporate tax god from 21 to 15 percent so.

so, you know, trump is saying one thing, but the way the market is acting is that they believe he's going to operate and govern in a different way that he say, why we're a conservative voices on wall street. so against crypto in the, in the 1st place, i mean, when used to, when you at sky bridge capital, we're investing in a crypto people didn't to believe what you, what was go, what was going on behind the scenes. the pressure is the hill face. so trump administration will face when the fcc begins to allow crypto trading and the united states to be a good it to be here. so that, that's a really good question. i think that when, when you're in a highly regulated industry which wall street is in the banks are highly regulated and something new comes in. and it has the ability to potentially take out the middle man and take out the oversight. and so you and i over the block chain, can directly transfer value to each other without permission from

a regulator and without permission from a 3rd party. i think that scares the daylights out of people in particularly older school, traditional people. but this is a technology that is here, and what i've generally found in my life when something is better, when a horseless carriage comes in and is actually better than the horse and carriage, even if the old guard doesn't like it, it ends up getting adopted and so we'll be trading with each other, back and forth with each other permission list will be tokenize in parts of the world, whether the regulators are old, wall street or banks like it or not. i saw that in 2020, i made these investments. looked like a g as in 2021. it looked like a dunce in 2022, but i said to my clients, and i'll say to your viewers, if you take a 5 year view of something like good core, and i think you'll do very, very well. you know, we bought our recorded 17000, it's trading at 90000 plus right now. and i think i think the, this has

a chance to go way higher over the next 5 years. but you have to have a stomach for this. use it to new technology. what do we know about new technology? the old guard fights it. i'll just speak specifically about hoover, there was a one government official, one regulator, one taxi cab commission that wanted google to exist in the united states. but you know, who want to google the american people and so we're still in a democracy and we're still in a place where the people have a voice and the people beat out the regulators. and that's what's happening with crypto except this boy important been taxis. the reason why i called lock school, the capital. this is so transformational. i mean, i'll just, one is one angle to is um the united states as weapon i sanctions again, so much of the world clearly bricks in the conference recently and because on people are ignoring it now and finding new ways of trading and so on. and we'll uh,

an embrace of crypto by, by the fed meeting that, um, sanctions no longer a weapon. uh because people will start to use a crypto rather than them and all of which they actually, ironically use to evade sanctions previously with. i'm not, i'm not in the, i'm not in the american government, but i, i've never been a big fan of the sanctions. i don't, i don't think the sanctions, you know, they could have heard the iranian government. they may have marginally heard the russian economy, but i think in general they heard the standing of the us dollar. i think someone 50 years from now an economic story and i'll look back and say the weapon is ation of the us dollar. is probably not necessarily helping the united states. if the united states wants to maintain its mantle of financial services, leadership and wants to maintain the us dollars, the global reserve, why rings are measured about it? i mean, it's destroyed because it has no, i mean, in this region here, everyone's talking about the dollar as trade. well, i'm being measured about it because if you look at the data,

the dollars actually gotten stronger since trump got elected. most assets in the world are dollar denominated, so i'm being measured about it. yeah. on the margin, what you're saying is absolutely right. these decisions that have been made to implicate or to oppose sanctions have cause a lot of behavioral changes that i don't think is beneficial to the united states. but by and large if you step back and look at it from 30000 feet. united states still has dollars supremacy in most assets, like it or not, are still the dollar denominated. now, if you're telling me a brick meeting in 2035, the mix of things will be difference possible. but it may not be, you know, you could be in a situation where, you know, i, i never understood the, i don't know, i probably shouldn't say this on television, but i'll say it, i've never really understood the antagonism between the russians and the americans . they, these always seem to me like they, they could be natural allies and,

and so i don't know why we're going after each other like that. but is it possible 10 or 15 years from now? there could be a better understanding among those 2 nations as possible. and it is, it'll be quite transformative for the world just of finally, i don't know whether you're going to make up with the trump. but i know you keep talking about weaponized being against his opponents actually joined the list are arguably feeling a sigh of relief because the 1st amendment was under so much threat on the democratic regimes. the j be the julian assange, k snowden, manning all under obama. and obviously under elan musk, there's been a huge can i read it? i'm not feeling. do you think it's better? it's not for you over the years. yeah. you got you got m s nbc host running down tomorrow lago because they're fearful. i'm not fearful i've. i've spoken my piece, you know, you know, when trump, when you look you, you live in the arab world. ok. i gave trump millions of dollars,

hundreds of hours of media advocacy. we got into a disagreement. it's okay to attack me, but he wouldn't have to my wife who the hell does that? you know, i mean, who does that and do i look like ted cruz to you? i'm going to take that from donald trump. remember these people still work for us? it's very, very different in the arab world is very different in eastern europe. but these people are serving the american people. he's not the ruler of america. he's in a public servant position. don't force to my wife. i'm a public figure. don't boy, after civilians it's, it's very disturbing if you get an apology for that the way serving is administrator and then well i, i definitely would need an apology for, for that a 100 percent. i would need an apology for that. and if he doesn't give me an apology for that, which he won't do because that's not his nature, that's fine. but you don't. you don't put out what i put out for donald trump on his transition team, staff, treasury, hundreds of hours of media advocacy, millions upon millions of dollars raised millions of dollars given for my personal

checking account and then have them attack your wife and then say, oh that's great, rough rough, i'm going to be of laptop for donald trump. you don't do that. and it's got a software that's not the neighborhood i grew up in. the united states will do that . i mean, with ted cruz wants to do that. god bless them. okay, but that's not me, i would never do that. tony's garbage, he thank you, is good to be here, man, be well, and that's it for the show. i continued condolences to those very by you k u. s. and you, i'm genocide here in the middle east. we'll be back with a brand new episode on saturday until then keep in touch my role as social media or if it's not sensitive in your country and have to our channel going underground tv hon. they'll come to watch new and old episodes of going underground seas as a the the

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