thought he was the radical right wing style show organization seized power and from the independent state of croatia, pull on 3 named tense, which kind of be around with a still a system of these 3. i mean, one of the main targets was children. historical sources say because gosh, killed over 72000 children business it. my god, they have done a roll of nose up that of course i say, you know, they may have done one up front that they have just done with general goal of dish . the dish and again that even the germans themselves were horrified by the atrocities committed by the stash reflection of that. so for the election bill of global mistaking, now the theme is at least fell on stuff to possibly be too tight. not to allow me. there's

a little research on the today, a conversation about security in africa cannot be complete without discussing the hospital home of, for the safe of historians. we know that african is present from begun being active on the 1st day of october, the 2007 and the declared, the objective is security. one cannot choir with that. that the united states of america being the head jim on as it was for a long time post war, would one the sick to uh, strategic offsets on the i g of they do call positions by being militarily present

in different parts of the was of always checking the view which is subject to debate that has not been a traditional colonized uh in that sense. and having been one of the gym on that day. my, after the 2nd was, well, the appetite of the united states of america to be the least amount of the world is one that we must never wish o x. it is in the city of god that we know that the united states of america is different in these present in different parts of the world. and africa is in no accepts. but she has land from history so that i involvement with africa is not caught it, her eyes as being a domain and but is kind of her eyes as more silly beneficial

relationship. but is this, this is the question that we must suppose. is it the relationship of you close? is this the relationship that is more certainly beneficial? i remember it's not so long ago. when the former president of tons, then yeah, was describing relationship between the united states of america and africa. and they said if you have in a book, sing much heavy way on the lightweight in this them ring, is it a bottle of vehicles? is it still a game or it is a my that by another name? he also pose the question. when are i the, is that i do not horse, is it uh, the relationship or you close all of the right. uh is the one who told me the name of the house i want to sub that. that's awesome. and the relationship between the

united states of america and many countries in africa who operate on the african is that relationship which is between the hoss underwriter, the right, up being the united states of america, the hoss being the many honest within countries. and let us in the title gave what of the come claims it is doing. number one, it mix the claim that there is a relationship which is primarily military and the military relationship requires. among other things that our very, as the military is in africa, drain occasionally with the, in the countries on some offices then find them well as themselves in different training force in the united states of america. so training is

a major component of it. the other argument is security, that there are many inside genes in african countries, on many oswick on countries i'm capable of controlling the boundaries on the apologize on the countries and they do not have the minutes. the capacity to engage with these inside jim's or to control on the inside of the boundaries. this is both in donal, on, in the body of time region, whether you are talking about money, time boundaries in the atlantic ocean or the in the noise. and therefore the present in the to be good. they also met the pay that is a kind of exchange of dealing with the piece. and therefore you need this kind of interaction. and of course the sod was the 4th one, which we don't talk about as we ought to, is big g or strategic position that as the cosigns ourselves and the military

conflict in the united states of america. if you look got stuck districts now and you look at this stuff, districts in the sense that we are talking about the same obama don't do you said last african countries with the 50 full on. because this is a major market for the items that has been described in the united states of america. and very few african countries ever buying new aircraft or new tongues. this is also a dumping ground. it is also a dumping ground for ministry equipment. so the presence of africa home is something that we never quite debate in the 5 different domain. many african countries say this is a no go area, because this concerns all a security and we ought not to debate that even our national funding them and do not debate the question on issues relating to africa. because this is considered

to be top secret. that is the domain of the executive on the domain of the military . and therefore very few of us know what these particular country. but in the united states of america through a school mind, which as we know is headquartered in germany does. and that is through not only of can you know whichever countries involved in it, but it's true of countries that find themselves under the government, which then bends the question. if we are talking about security on the inside, just the, on the control of the same time, we are talking about independence. what kind of independence do we enjoy when you are military? and when you uh, activities, particularly of a security nature. i've been guided from outside number 2. does it give us the freedom to enter into collaboration with other countries with whom we may want to be friends? can we have for example, without being questioned by the united states of america and thought into

relationship with time. with russia, with india, with brazil will with any of the country. the answer is no. you may want to but there is always be brazza with a gun on you ahead telling you you do these. i do own better. so when we examine after the comb without going into the details of it, it must be understood in the context of why the hedge on which is still interested in ensuring that africa remains and it's due to age. that african remains a young brazza. although there must be of a side african remains a young nebraska who must be guided africa remains a young abrazzo, which is a musket after the 30 manes. a young,

the browser that must be guided in political areas of the record remains of continent that is within the sphere of influence, which brings me into a subject that requires a lift. the discussion and interrogation african countries may make the claim that they enjoy independence. african countries and africa may make the claim that they did the judge and we have no shortage of money that we give to our military. african countries may want to think plaza, but we must never forget that g a strategically, in the interest of the united states of america, it is important that they remain in general control. and if you go to many of our african countries, you go to your book do, for example, look at some of the major military facilities that are out there. you goes with the

western cape. i do see some of the sea going vessels and you go to the indian ocean on the canyon farther. and we still know that you have told us the remains major outposts for the united states of america, which is controlled lively from germany under the aspect of them. you then know that this idea arrows fee, as of control, is still something that is very important to a countries such as the united states of america. of course egypt involvement in africa is one that is only a debatable sometimes we say the i in but many times they are not in because the relationship is differently defined. but in the not shall we say that we as a continent of africa, i still been in many ways controlled by a major fire and firewall. and it is not going to be easy in the short to medium done to liberate ourselves from the clutches. because the reality is that our

military is in the prison constitution and in the present was view, i still have been controlled from that particular every not which in itself is something that is very critical to it because i'm in, in terms of wrong, some security. because if you belong as ask because the african countries that, and the control or the watch, or if you want the collaboration with the united states of america on the african. i use states in the event of war. when you are part of an arrangement over which you have no control, i you say, are you a target for those? because you collaborate that, that i use space from the i intelligence i use say from this quote to me, the answer is no. and that is why the, those one now saying that the time is now the cost of the umbilical cord between

african countries that are part of the food come on to reconstitute africa into on of the chemical month. which is controlled by africans on the if there is any collaboration, a tool that collaboration must be between the continent of africa as uniquely constituted. and if it can be done with the united states of america, with the russia, with china on any other country, without, as a countries been told that you cannot collaborate with us with us. because this is all a sphere of influence. i look forward to that day and i look forward to there's a different nation of the relationship between the african countries in the corporate status on the united states of america. you've been really defining our rating. remember that the and i'll come, one of the major components is training on many honest within countries find the med cindy office has been trained in the united states of america on,

via for them. the military cultures of many of the countries is influencing, visited. good if they are trained and commanded from the standpoint of, of become even when it is physically located in germany. but of course, the manuals on the mode results are in the, is a fundamentally open america nature. and we say these none of the costs off because does not want friends. africa wants to friends, but africa, desire as friends, who are collaborating from us on point of equality, not from us on point of domination. because if you are a domain they to, even if you are told you are free, your freedom is on the mind in very different ways. if you are not in control of us security, then us security can be compromised. if you a share us security intelligence with people who are not beholden through you,

you are not safe because that intelligence can be manipulated to you at depth room . and if you are controlled in the name of collaboration through a system who is detailed, you do not on those funds. it means that you are susceptible to being destroyed and therefore of a penny. and that is something that the continent of africa, those who uh and the delays of america through us become, must begin 3 and thought ok. and it is not lost on me that voices are beginning to rise. which voices are saying the time is now for us to enjoy freedom so that we can negotiate our collaboration. so that week under this thing going engagement so that we can have an engagement of the close, not on engagement that is defined by in the quality on sometimes content.

we must move in that direction. thank you very much. that as have a break. we have, i just been of the conversation. see you again, you know, show to watch the the, we are the foothills of low caring. yeah. just south side of the great city of natural, be in kenya. and today we want to wrap our minds around the struggle against.