taking the time, thank you. that's an answer to for taking the time diversity in addressing what's happening in. so though that i've seen some estimates suggesting that the scale of violence, suffering and destruction incidentally, eclipse has both the war in your brain and the conflict in gaza. combined yet receive significantly less attention, both from the media and from the international community. so what do you think explains that? what's happening to you? so then here's by all means. so is only because of human duty and cries to solve all types like we're talking about almost 26000000 people in day and you need to you, you need to call me, i'm talking about drills, media and displays and listen, i installs enabling countries. we are talking about lying we into between outside law for schools, my team, we understand the difference uh, both on buying into sports or the innovative city will have the uh, the,

the good evening the, with the 2 medium crossings kind 12. so thoughts of one to 6 to a very long since every support shared the situated sort of very mean can we do them? but i despise them all of his artist if we need that, that beats. and what does that? so is for me said weakness by the words ins allows safety as low as the equipment they see. data is really nifty and attention from the with on board to take a little box up to 60 minutes of past lives on many scenes work as a media and he is on i think is beating that it is about about what's the loading. so then series and maybe div that's mean broadcasting by 14. but what a spark, the community is, the we utilize it out of them. it is. we try to just defines all of those for you, so done as well. again, this is, lenny is cardboard. i gave you

a beginning the media to the game on other than you used to do more critique out of receiving the rules. and so that is cool. you may have any attempt to cover letter and life was the crime school meeting, but as orders, if you see it useful. so you we deemed up. i also want to mention something that a one high ranking your unofficial sad about it. he said, that's t a rather said that this conflict is being ignored due to the so called psychic phenomena where people feel more pathetic towards the tragedy as the death toll continues to climb. to some extent, i think that's understandable. people around the world have their own lives to attend to, but we have special agencies. we have special institutions like be a form mentioned to you around to deal with those issues. they have the expertise, they have the resources of a base point of time. how would you assess di involvement, and di, response to this i'm going emergency. so you and says being was a, you know,

mean katie and or quality can have lena seeing yet for some di, but the community. and so that as you and feel the supports of transition, i mean some down there tomorrow for the transition, if there's any meetings and so hope you love him and he says in 2019 w. uh, excuse me. and just let me get on. what are the c u z n seal because it's a nice little community as a whole field and so forth. is that sounds he shouldn't even be in a steve or uh give him a quick transition. and this led to a cool new into the tool kit and keyboarding bought the with allies to top. it was the civilians, and then they started fighting among themselves in 20 says in 2020 state. the investment community has too many competing interest and z u. n. is feeling the full need to see uh, owns the store, many email i sent them a surprise and, and i just need dimensions that i can to the is the situation. so the and also else

i can, i just clarify uh, something that you just said that the international community failed to support the civilian transition. uh and so done. what exactly do you have in mind because you also have been critical and unwilling to accept any kind of for an intervention? so what measures do you think that you should have taken to make this civilian transition? by the way, you work for that civilian government to yourself, or to make it more stable to help with take groups in the, in a country that has been, let's admit, brutalized by violence for many years. it's really just call you wherever close assistant team focused off duty is that transitional cause a prime minister during the transition and they continue will say this kind of that . so the nice little community was ignoring said to me telling this is why

is the new uh, phone, civilian government and just the ceiling quotes these out settings that will result walk ins, all walk ins. for example, as a us government continue to impose the sanction based on that is the national. so that was that as, as a state sponsor of to resume for almost 20 years of that is um, after, after this is denise abel by themselves without no problems or ways many seem to have the don't bring down one of the way. this is, let me use the sheets in the world. i mean, after you go and after that to me and, and just to beeping some sort of, of support for the mass of the community to tell the start, like, think nothing. media new post calls that come up. i way better to you is besides the as the filing, the last name. so the design is a brown up or in the steering to both of these are on standing or be seen by the

name of the half. that is a call in to any to anyone the you in. is it a new and hands the guys which is the entire government and, and you'll see all of those are consistent in east africa as the form i was informed. i'll try you out through the week. anything came out of tim to to, to review. this is a, oh, how is that? is that your is and your, the, the we saw the, the image. it's the absolutely sideline display. lots of don't seem systems in all of these done picking and choosing how can i go to the meaning of the facts and that sort of thing. it flip flip feigning their additions for well or an in between circuit and for now, how do you understand the interest of those belligerent forces, the military on one side and depaula merit and military and grouping? what are they fighting for at the moment? because from what i know be,

so do these economy is in collapse of farmers kind of do the jobs, half of the population is facing acute food and security. are there any resources apart from the heavily brutalized population to be fighting over? there is no, i know this is awful, it's part of the wrist as it is and goodness, both community continues to control, many of the resources and sometimes they start to use a goal. we try being weed from them of being very easy to english mining. that's being done as of all 3 of these mean one of the allies under the unit i need, we need it in on one of the lies. why uh, bypass these the house connection to the image, especially because of the multi team to be. and also what was the deal only because uh those they should also then the controls over $700.00 uh mines in file. oh, he'd sort of easily see which is the biggest uh it was, uh,

it was a little old. so uh, i mean its, it's also a media resource. uh the, the wheels on saturday, customer line. and we are a little confusing equity. and johnny knows the tried for a very long time, and, uh, what we can call are bouncing around the diabetes. and can you just to dig the line so 99 years on to the zip codes, even if it does, it does the lisay things even as a simple things my mother was, would allow him to do me a grass. so uh the for the community. this may have the community as of course, owners throughout a lot of these uh, products. uh so, so basically i think land water will, um, what solution does that mean? things that makes a lot of a super well already in general. well, the super bowlers, the silver border answer, the the board form to be super close as well on the view over to them. at this

point of time, do you believe that any civilian government can manage the situation on its own? and what kind of, how can we be concrete, what kind of how you think would be the best for your country? oh, think it's not anything really. and government goes into the community and government to keep going to call her in the country. it is almost, we need to understand. one thing about this for this war is happening with you any between tool, but i do smoke alone. olds in is far, much way of that is also what's most of ons. all those if was disability before, is that a good support forces we're parked in those just few years ago. you know, cool. does that. i gave me the meaning. it's ends in uh, so for most control over orders is on auto, if freely uh is uh, 5 feast and i'm be soon off. and so it's an

e bills and the pin in to the fees. they have a field goal going to 15. so it's really 23 about why 40 boards far between an easy way, e and, and, and you to exactly to dismissal. so without actually the same use me for meetings or me fund dismantling cost is also autos. if, as an institution, the main goal, we move him carefully started beeping little on democracy in for that. one thing that i said ultimately because to say in, in the community, stop doing fear is that how the superficial misguided in defense in that is that try to address the, the risk of cause of bubble. and that suit a blind eye phones items of the school maybe by sitting buffy is wanting to do these. odyssey is, is even in allowing you,

mr. johnson and the only game for after school we specialize in the zip codes. the more and more we have to take a very short break, but i promise you to return back to these very pressing issue of the for an intervention in your country. so stay with us. we will be back in just a couple of moments. the release of the russian states never is as tight as one of the most sense community best. most all sense and up the in the 65 to 5 must be the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union,

the kremlin media mission, the state on rochester routing and split the r t spoke neck. even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube, the payment services for the question, did you see a request for check the the the welcome back to all the parts with jobs for read. i'll tell you up, executive director of the pro for studies and development, the suit and his think time now. uh, doctor, i will say if i do want to discuss uh for an intervention, but before we go there,

let me ask you specifically about the claims of the arab supremacist ideology that's set to be running high within both the warring factions. i'm not an expert here, so i'm asking for a, for your opinion here. i've heard that there was a certain size of our uh, commanders, especially with the power military force will have a fascist or supremacist out of ideology, some of them hailing from the western dar 4 region and they're able to report that some of them believe that this is sort of dialogue that everybody else has to be driven out then that you know, they're the sole rightful owners of that place. is that true? it's true, but it's more complicated than sends out. but i think when you, when we originally it was tim you'll see is that describes the ideal you'll sort of if, if, if that idea and they are facts, his goal is to make so clemency is spot

a pulse of all forms of the officer, the finding a good of 50 states both. 05, easy. well, this for this isn't 8 so, but it be, so bring this thing is being no surprise, a fact that won't cover as of interest orders. if, if our mind here is the nice. yeah. so what they want is to, uh, there's a resource is going towards the country going towards the land and why they are doing this. they are using that as need be. as i recall, i think that the guys including method to recruit people from easily from sales being, is being close to the drawings that runs to the building this think only the of, of orders, disney, kinsey. they've only the mass i to most of these, unless building again is unless i need immediate you need out in may and june 20 twenty's the i've been the stairs of our with our or if he can never for the tribes legal making thing as much cooling as so can you see i've got anything loves the

only thing is the theme uh, most of these last billing again, is uh, you know, again use as of the price and i use the books from our defendants in other areas. and so the, like what's happening, you know, give you the scanning, for example, the lease in the list. that's the least the oddest if guilt, almost to the 2000 people on the screen. and it gives you the incentive. so then go on from out of defense. so um, what were the things that they are destiny that busy whose lives have been already penny out as if maybe see out what they are using the as as, as if that deep rouse other than i was. and then jimmy winks ah, the, now i read that there are also cases of a trusted this, an ethnic cleansing being committed by the army side as well. so none of them is particularly attractive to the force to lead the country into the future. now uh

recently um, how do this thing that's done? i'd have to, i'd have to point to something here because yes, there are heat, nobody in defending the army is the spirit operators. you know, so then as a look, move kind of reform both. i'm telling you this, this new was the 25th to of votes of a meeting is need. uh, i think this drives the buzz when you look i, it's, uh, it's a completely simple slope. so the, the sample size itself you find, you'll notice from little by mouth, you'll notice from data for general assumption will now united, you shouldn't begin or false. is there to see that this mid it'd be obsess museum for me to what kind of video content on the slides i means that, you know, provide the tab your resources inside of your double lot for looks g tells you about the extent also let me see information and this information can be, we have a probably a war between going back out this float. the just a one of them is,

was done. so how it works. but as a tim phone said, the name is pretty important because groups name is green media to cover. how bad is the fact that the uh, the business information and this information lights this on me last year when it's on the other up, the reports of our very sensual and vitamins to start to help you with that? and what to us goals, if you be in front, which now the problems flowing in the end that slip by the handles. the form would probably be just as easy as the attachment of all 3 of kansas $550.00. this is only people to please, and you own the easiest thing here. you know, the love to sparkles of the comfortable scene on the to have 0 or the statement loans. the said like to have a meeting by the oddest, if i'm city of these cases, with only the vice of 20, it was only at that time that or these, these,

these will only get why is the hottest, if well, the, it was an attend problems in the police review except play of was there was a public outcry, and this will be called cry force that the medium from these rules. are these big mean a little guy about the lucky if he needs, i'm sure he's that the cost and use information on distribute things that mean this is all just avoid it. the middle, where does this a fix, the proper channels, the media and best of friends that live can you hold on? see if the old zip be one. few more of the birthdays are be, want for rooms out of this office for sometimes i had on until i was hoping this will lead me to be fine. except the way a very nice kind of coming from when we were just trying to be named that to our commuter, by distributing cause um the bleeding and bolts uh whole samples that lives like this. you know, all these things are blinking and do you want me to continue doing that?

but it seems that they are doing. i think it also shows that the fail, statehood is a very complex phenomenon. and you truly need to think very carefully and deliberately about how to lead to, you know, a country through that very precarious transition. that's simply having a civilian government. there's nothing out there should be indeed an organized f for both by the local society, but also by the neighbors. well wishing neighbors and perhaps all the actors to how that very vulnerable and precarious process to go on rather than living on the, on its own. and exploiting it for various, your political or economic reasons. now, now that we have come to the point of discussing for an intervention, you mentioned before, the role of the united arab emirates being very critical accusing it of funneling weapons to the part of military and groups. how do you understand the and the rabbits interest at this point? what are they trying to achieve?

they're sweet and what is the one most confusing said, but they don't have it. so we had in the beginning of this year in january 2024 already bought. excellent, body buys that. you didn't then experience a blank by so you, in even given the dates the to that for boy didn't seem to have some diet at the daily and for being seen single images, you know, 7 50 am i the ones that bad still live on? so i was for to see that and after that and you had like the buildings of independent uh, reports from different uh, media outlets. the human being was a continuous supporter of the continuous leave lives lines or supply of weapons to the tools artist. if you need that for these variables are be used to drill to. so the nice people already sort of use it is also reported off easily send beings

oddest. if about the ones that are going to be friends with ones i assume with us to, to other countries. that's really peoplesolved problem or no. the hardest is what i'm seeing using and kind of tim, if you have a crime of i, the vision of by you ease of started support. the was obviously, if seems to be once. and it was the same time that i'm trying deals they have to go moving into was a horse. and then so as i mean here, the order and the i to at that and, and for that they are holding the screen. so is the only way that my study was they list it with that with you. and as they are using some sort of diplomatic of humanitarian diplomacy, they'll tell they've how do understand their interest because i'm very skeptical of various uh, independent or you and reports. i mean i, i used to be a reporter award importer in leaving syria and i know how these documents, uh, you know, compose their hardly independent. but since you're an expert then the,

your, you definitely have an interest in the wellbeing of your country. how do you understand all of those 4 in the interventions? because it's not only the united arab emirates, and not only is it all you know, that the russia to has been accused in western media off supporting the part on military force. so i want to understand why those nations are sad or, or indeed involving themselves in that matter. i think most of us are you a, you and mine is organization will have uh, interest in so wills and so that is ready basically because of the deal. no cation, what were on the south was that even off of gigs in which was uh, of use in rights to grow system down. a dispute, as i said he is looking to have a customer of land ads uh ads that it seats towards also done as united be sent to physical pleasure as being on so long to me very much seems

a lot of things. uh well, uh, some were great from some down and by the way it will show you smoke only use a 14 odyssey is mercedes leaving both sides on some more of the beds. they have the other leasing, keep going south, and they have 0 agency because obviously if not soon as the fact that she's list clinic, the police officer, she does. uh well, well, well wait a 2nd the, the, because this is a very serious allegation. uh, back there, a group is a private group that stage last year that stage the cool against the russian government. i mean, they were russians service meant that were killed and that's cool. so it was a very shady story and it's true that the russian government relied on their services both in the ukraine and i think perhaps in some other places as well. but it is clearly, it is also clear that the crumbling does not issue orders to back in their wagner can oppose kremlin very strongly. so when you say that russia is involved on both sides, isn't the russian nationals, but do you mean on, are you actually?

yeah, you know, do you actually have in mind the crumbling, the official russian government who's trying to, you know, pull the strings in your country, the criminal and of course, as a reason to do both formally states, i believe this english asks you scheming it certainly, since the boys up for wednesday, and i believe this is that it was at the beginning, stuff was as the evenings has of hollins, which as you know, as you very much know if that is a cool file, you know, when uh, some people may be speak uh, the will was lee brown beach as uh, also you can troops as the continue to uh, have some religious and also the expensive business ties in, in africa. that's true. i'm not sure that the because instead the guy who said, yeah, of the many other nations. yeah. and, and then i'm talking to you and i'm not talking about the sense i'm talking about

just about another group which has a really complicated think and maybe with ups and downs. really easy and see what we as a result, us and uh go look, look, let's look for to get that said the rob rules in, in the few weeks before the war, when he was in some done st bumping to the defense of route and letting blocks made him so then as they are saying that they are toby and 5 being too busy and i'm just of advise exec empty. so basically this was the restroom. following the fields, mr. king, making these things up. so ravenna rules that was known for cleaning and sobriety, and as to the disease, always nice. is that just 2 months later than it was here? a war was, was different, the button and the you know, the booth as you. oh, i'm sure. well, no security in africa is a very precarious matter. there are indeed a request for private contracting services coming to wagner. and perhaps in some

other officials from various african groups or african nations that even though it's. * does not, i think the prove that the russia in some matters support service nor do violence against your country. i think if anything, i think it would benefit from, you know, normalizing the relationship because as you pointed out at calls or may have interest in the, you know, warm water for that cetera. but since we have to finish our conversation, i want to ask one of those questions. what would you like russia and any other interested nations to do at this point of time given the level of violence? what, what, how this point of time to the people on the grounds, not the various factions, but the people who are still suffering towards the dimensions that's happening was done right now from funding for orders. and that's trying to, uh, to see if this went into this auto home for work leads and dimensional community

use go in both, it's me, you've been raising experience, gusto, b, o, a also continuous support as autos. if this is almost the same as the easiest and quickest we spoke, zillow or in some guidance, or would love constantino dances the way you have a store uh, supply chains away, plumes. and this applies to the autos. if you'll be able unit advisor to even get in a comfortable many dizzy lane, if in the 2nd in sport as well, western in general, but also for the eastern. com. you can make things that ident indicating to the shop and then still leaking and causing you to suckle from visiting easy me is poor for them. because then use political have been visiting me want out of the home he was or how does that. i chose all the presents in the west have supported the, the alliance that to me will come from the buddies the list when i'm know by the

i've know, dtc infinities hopes that he might all these other if i do that the same as will have 0 all life owns of some community. these google few that have been sure to stop the war, need to slow towards the collective ben if it talk to somebody in spam or 12 for the political and boxes that i think i'll see if i'm going to go east or the, the dams that holds the whole of sorting the dentist. okay. dr. alton, we have to leave it there, but uh, i strongly side with your point of view that uh the war needs to stop for the benefit of the people. thank you very much for being with us and hope to see her again on the world's a part of the the

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