a sudanese thing type stuff, so i'll tell you up, it's great to talk to thank you very much for taking the time. thank you. it's an answer to for taking the time from diversity and addressing what's happening. and so though, that i've seen some estimates suggesting that the scale of violence, suffering and destruction, and so don eclipse has both the war in your brain and the conflict in gaza combined . and yet it receives significantly less attention, both from the media and from the international community. so what do you think explains that? what's happening here? so then here's by all means. so is only because of human duty and christ himself all types like we're talking about almost 26000000 people in a day of unity and need to come. you know, i'm talking about drills, media, and displays and listen, i. e stalls enabling tennessee is we are talking about lying really into an outside law for schools learning team. we understand that one's

a boost on barn you suppose on innovative 2nd will have the uh, the, the books in the way of silly duty and cross. and scott and 12, so thoughts of on the 6 to avoid long since that a support share to the situated sort of very mean can lead time, but i despise them all of the hardest. if we get that attack beats and what does that? so is a fairly said weakness by the words ins allows safety as low as the equipment they see. data is really nifty. the attention from the time warranty comes will dissolve the situation and slides on many scenes work as it may do. the reason i seem to be is beeping that it is about about the loading. so done series and maybe div that's mean broadcasting by 40. but what a spark, the community is, the we utilize it. part of them it is. we try to just defies all out of it for you

. so done as well. again, it says plenty is time or i'll give you a, do you need the media to the game on other than to use to do more critique or receiving the roles into that? let's just call me any attempt to cover letter and life was the crime strongly the buzz autos. if you see these offices really deemed up, i also want to mention something that a one high ranking your unofficial side about it. he said, that's t a brother said that this conflict is being ignored due to the so called psychic phenomena where people feel more pathetic towards the tragedy as the death toll continues to climb. to some extent, i think that's understandable. people around the world have their own lives to attend to, but we have special agencies. we have special institutions like be a for mentioned to you around to deal with those issues. they have the expertise, they have the resources and a base point of time. how would you assess di involvement and di response to this

i'm going emergency. so you and says being was a, you know, mean in order for that because it has the anesthesia yet for some time, but the community and so that as you and feel the supports of transition, i mean, so then, so to look for the transition of those that have meetings and so hope you know, even he says in 2019 w. uh, excuse me. and just let me get on what are the c u, d m c? oh cuz it's a nice little community as a whole feel and so forth. it sounds you shouldn't even be in a steve or uh, give eclip eclipse. and this link to a cool new into the tool kit and keyboarding bought the with allies to top. it was a cdn, sometimes a style of 5 being among themselves into interfaces, including the 20th street, the dimensional community. it has too many competing interest. as you is feeling the full need to see uh,

owns the store will meet. you may see things and underneath dimensions that i can to the is the situation. so the, and also i also have uh, can i just clarify uh, something that you just said that the international community failed to support the civilian transition. uh and so done. what exactly do you have in mind because you also have been critical and unwilling to accept any kind of for an intervention. so what measures do you think the united should have taken to make this civilian transition? by the way, you work for that civilian government to yourself, or to make it more stable to help and take groups in the, in a country that has been, let's admit, brutalized by violence for many years. it's really just call you wherever cause assistance info stuff. beauty is that transitional goals are prime minister during the transition and they continue will say this kind of that. so the nice little community was the morning said to me telling you series by the new year

uh, phone, civilian government and just selling clothes is out settings that will result little things don't work. for example, as a us government continue to impose the sanction based on this evening. so most of them as that as, as a state sponsor of to resume for almost 20 years of that is um, after, after this is denise be able by themselves without no problems or ways many seem to have be don't bring down. one of is a weird, a space. let me use the sheets in the world any. now if you go and after that, so you have anticipating some sort of of support for the medical community to tell the started like the nothing media new post closer government. however, the you is the 5, the at the filing, the last name. so the signings are brown up or in the steering to both of these

parents ending or beating the name of through the physical and into any to anyone the you in. is it a new and has the guide, which is the entire government and, and you don't see off um, was a consistent east coffee guy as the form i was informed. i'll try it out through the week. anything in either tim to, to, to review this is a, oh, how is that? is that your is and you don't be don't, here's the we saw the image. it's the absolutely sideline display. lots of don't seem systems in on the start picking and choosing how to go do so. i mean, if the fax ends that sort of thing, it flip flip, feigning their unbeknownst for bow or an in between the cut on for now, how do you understand the interest of those belligerent forces, the military on one side and depaula merit and military and grouping what are they

fighting for at the moment? because from what i know be so do these economy is in collapse of farmers kind of do the jobs. half of the population is facing acute food and security. are there any resources, apart from the heavily brutalized population to be fighting over? there is no, i know this is awful. it's hardly the wrist as it is in a good risk. also maybe you can see is to control many of the resources and sometimes they start to use a goal. we try being with them. i mean very into the ingles mining that's being done. the ends of all 3 is mean one of the allies under the unit. i really, really depend on one of the laws while you uh, bypass these house connection to image, especially because of the marketing debate and, and also what was the deal only because uh those they should also down to the controls over 700 uh, miles in file oh, it's sort of invalid fee,

which is the biggest uh it was, uh, it was a little old. so uh, i need, uh, it's also a major resource. uh if the wheels on saturday customer line, we are a little confusing equity, and johnny knows the tried for a very long time and what we can call on banking lobby and can you just to dig the line so 99 years on to the zip codes even if the 18, even as various buildings. uh my mother was uh, would allow him to do me. russell uh the for the community. this may have to complete this of course, august the little these uh, products. uh so, so basically i think land water will, will solution opposite main things that makes a lot of, of the super bowl already in general, the super bowl or the foot board and the,

the board form to be super close as well on the view over to them, at this point of time, do you believe that any civilian government can manage the situation on its own and what kind of, how can we be concrete? what kind of how you think would be the best for your country? i think it's not any civilian government. i think it's the community and government to keep calling the call is a constraint is almost, we need to understand. one thing about this for this war is happening with you any between tool, but i do smoke alone. olds in is far, much way of that is also works. most of us, all those, if was this of the news of the forces that are good, simple forces we're part, you know, just a few years ago. you know, cool. does that. i gave me this, the meaning it's ends in uh, so for most control over orders. if an artist is feeding, uh,

is uh 5 feast and a be sent off. and so it's an e bills and they tend to uh, the fees and feel good $1.00 to $15.00. so it's really $23.00 about like 40 bored spot between an easy way, e and, and, and get to exactly to dismissal or so without actually seeing use me for meetings or me fund dismantling cost is also autos. if, as an institution, the main goal we looking carefully started beeping, lived on democracy in still that one thing that i felt community kind of saying is that the community need to stop doing fear. is that how the superficial is guided in good sense in that is that try to address the, the risk of cause of the above and the guy suit a blind iphones items of the school, maybe by safety, bob d, as baltic,

usually these odyssey is, is even in allowing us to junction and the only thing for the soul, least of a lot of things, it gives me more and more. we have to take a very short break, but i promise you to return back to this very pressing issue of the for an intervention in your country. so stay with us. we will be back in just a couple of moments. there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the or is the case for the med, most of the people. i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also of soon. this is the 3rd world lunacy re washington, as for so the funder line likes to say, we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals to help me living online. we have very close propaganda. you know, price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. some more questions, ask

a better. the answer is will be the welcome back to wells of parts with jobs fairways. i'll tell you up, executive director of the pro for studies and development. the student has think time now. uh, doctor, i will say if i do want to discuss uh for an intervention, but before we go there, let me ask you specifically about the claims of the arab supremacist ideology that's set to be running high within both the warring factions. i'm not an expert here, so i'm asking for it for your opinion here. i've heard that there was

a certain sat of our uh, commanders, especially with the power military force. what have a fascist or supremacist out of ideology, some of them hailing from the western dar 4 region and they're able to report that some of them believe that this is sort of dialogue that everybody else has to be driven out then that you know, they're the sole rightful owners of that place. is that true? it's true, but it's more complicated than sends out. but i think when you, when we originally it was tim you'll see is described. so the ideal you'll solve if, if, if that is that i do say our fax is go, an estimate. so busy is part of both from both on to the officer defining the states full sofa. it's easy with this with this estimate. so, but it be, so bring this thing is being all kinds of fact that won't cover us of interest. honors if, if our mind here is dying. nice. yeah. see what they want is to, uh,

those are resources going towards the country going towards the land and why they are doing this. they are using the estimate bully beef. as i recall being that the president quoting method or no, the quote people from using the, from sales being is being close to drawings and runs to, to doing this, think only the of, of orders, disney cleansing, they've only the mass i to most of these i must do again is unless i need a jeannie and see me and don't do any to lose the ivy any stairs of our, with our own awfully conductor, for the tribes legal making things much cooling. i was hoping to have anything loves the only thing is the theme a tooth of these fine masculine ivy and these uh no, i didn't use other products and i use people, chrome or defendants in other areas. and so the, like what's happening, you know, dizzy about scanning, for example,

the leaves in the list. that's really the odd as if guilt, almost to the 2000 people on the screen. it gives you the incentive, so them full on from our defense. so um, what were the things that they are estimate factors he host wise, they've been already if any of us, if you see out what they are using the as, as, as that deep rouse, i was then i was on and then jimmy weeks uh, the now i read that there are also cases of atrocities of ethnic cleansing being committed by the army side as well. uh so uh, none of them is particularly attractive to the forced to leave the country and to the future. now. uh, recently um 100 percent that's done. i'd have to, i'd have to point to something here because yes, the army normally is defending the army is to split up any of those, you know, so then as a look, move kind reform. well, i'm telling you this, this new was the 25th to about south. and me being uh, is neat. uh,

i think be as strong as it was. when you look at the i took on was the simple slopes of either of the of itself. you'll find, you'll notice from little by mouth, you'll notice from data for general, and some will now united, you shouldn't begin or false. are there to see that we submitted the missing information 10, which haven't been able to make me 5. i means that, you know, like the tub, your resources you, i didn't know what the lots of looks g tells you about the extent also missing information. and this information got to be, we have a probably a war between going back out this flow. the do this, but one of them is, was done. so how it works. but as a tim phone said, the name is very important because a groups name is green, the media to cover. how bad is the, how's the fact that the uh, the business information and this information lives is on may last year when it's

all orders that are up be, and reports of our city of central and vitamins to start to help in that. and what the less schools, if you be in front, which now transformed into the and that's led by the i'm dogs, a former prime minister nissan as the admin of all 3 of kansas 5. they do things can lead people to please, and you own the money saved in here. you know, the 2 bottles of the comfortable team on the to have 0 or the statement. well, on the said like we're meeting by the others. if i'm city or the experiences with only the vice us while it was only at that time that or the skis is, will only be while he's the hardest. if well, the, it was an attempt from them, no police through he wants to play of was there was a public outcry and this will be called cry force that the video i'm from. believe rolls are be speed. mean a little guys about the look you briefly need. i'm sure that the cost and use

information on distribute things that mean this is more just a boy, i think the middle, where does this a fix? the product channels, the medium, best effect, the likelihood and safety also being one seen more of the birthdays are be want for rooms out tons of abuse alters for sometimes i had on until it's of this war. we need to be fine except the way a very nice kind of come from when you just allowing to damage that to our commuter, by distributing cause um its a belated and bolts uh whole samples that lives like this. you are being blinking and do you want me to continue doing that? but it seems that they all do it. i think it also shows that the fail, statehood is a very complex phenomenon. and you truly need to think very carefully and deliberately about how to lead the, you know, a country through that very precarious transition that simply having

a civilian government. there's nothing out there shouldn't be indeed an organized effort, both by the local society, but also by the neighbors well wishing neighbors and perhaps all the actors to how that very vulnerable and precarious process to go on, rather than leaving it on the, on its own. and exploring it for various, your political or economic reasons. now, now that we have come to the point of discussing for an intervention, you mentioned before, the role of the united arab emirates being very critical accusing it of funneling weapons to the part of military and groups. how do you understand the and the rabbits interest at this point? what are they trying to achieve? they're pretty good. and what is the one most confusing said, but they don't and itself when you have in the beginning of this year in january 2024 report. excellent hawaii by you and you've been going to experience a break by thank you. and even given the dates the to that for pointing finger diet

at the daily and for planting, single immunization, you know, it's in 1591. is that about the transform to some of that. and after that, you had like the buildings of independent reports from different media outlets. the human being was a continuous support of the continuous leave live lines or supply of with wants to do the honors if you need that for these ripples or be used to deal with these people. all of these are the 3 that is off to reporters of easily send beings honors if by the ones that are uh, it'd be friends with ones and through them with us to, to other countries that's through their peoplesolved brown folk or no. uh, the hardest is what i'm seeing is the tim, the of the,

of the crime of division volume ease of started support. the, as obviously of seems to be one. and it was the same thing that i'm trying deals that they normally take into was before then. so as i mean the, the order and the i to, i have to spend and for that they are holding the screen. some is the only way they can install it is they list it with that with the you and they are using sort of the blue matrix of humanitarian diploma. so you don't have to have how do you understand their interest? because i'm very skeptical of various independent or un reports. i mean i, i used to be a reporter award importer in levy in syria. and i know how these documents uh, you know, compose, they're hardly independent. but since you're an expert, then the you're, you're definitely they have an interest in the well being of, of your country. how do you understand all of those 4 in interventions? because it's not only the united arab emirates, and not only is there all, you know that the roster too has been accused in western media off supporting the

part on military or for. so i want to understand why those nations are sad or indeed involving themselves in that matter. i think most of most of you a you and my name is darlene visual, have uh interest teams or wills. and some of that is really busy today because of the deal location. what we're on the south is that even all soft buicks in which was of use and rise to we'll see some down here. the space, as i said, the way he is looking outside the customer, land tides adds that it seats towards also done and you have a decent to cause a gold rush. i haven't been on so long to be very much. seems a lot of things. uh well, uh, some were great functions down. and by the way you most are, you smoke only use a 14 odyssey of course that you lean both sides of the ones out there. they have the other nations keep going south and they have 0 relationships with all of us. if

not, so is the fact that when she's list coordinate the i can useful for you. she does. uh, what was, well, what, by the way, the 2nd, the, the, because this is a very serious allegation back there, a group is a private group that stage last year. that's phase the cool against the russian government. i mean, they were russian service meant that were kill them. that's cool. so it was a very shady story and it's true that the russian government relied on their services both in ukraine and i think perhaps in some other places as well. but it is clearly, it is also clear that the crumbling does not issue orders to back in our wagner can oppose kremlin very strongly. so when you say that the rushing is involved on both sides isn't the russian nation. i was the, do you mean on i, you actually know, do you actually have in mind the crumbling, the official russian government who's trying to, you know, pull the strings in your country, the criminal and of course, as a present, the default is the formerly states. i believe this english at escaping. you'd

certainly send 2 boys up for one of the states. i believe this is that it was at the beginning stuff look as well as the greetings has of collins, which as you know, as you very much know off the zipcode or 5, you know, when, uh, some people really be steep. uh, the advisor will was re brand beat as uh, off we can troops, as they continue to, uh, have some religious and or the expensive business dies in, in africa. that's true. i'm not sure. and that'd be because instead the guy who said the many other nations. yeah. and, and then i'm building to, you know, i'm not talking about nations i'm talking about justified not, which has, i've really complicating maybe with ups and downs. really easy and see what we as a result, us and uh, google booklet, smoke 4 digits, etc. it drop it off in,

in a few weeks before the war when he was in some done the booklet, the defense of route and letting boss me into then and say, i'm saying that the toby in 5 being too busy and, and just of advise exec, empty, so basically this was the restroom following the fields mr. king make and the things that ran the rules that was known for carrying on sobriety and his to the i think always nice is that just 2 months lived in initiating a war was, was different. the button and the adults are eligible as you, i'm sure, well, no security in africa is a very precarious matter. there are indeed a request for private contracting services coming to wagner. and perhaps in some other officials from various african groups or african nations that even though it's. * does not, i think the prove that the russia in some matters, supports terrorism or the violence against your country. i think if anything,

i think it would benefit from, you know, normalizing the relationship because as you pointed out, it also may have interest in the, you know, warm water pores, etc. but since we have to finish our conversation, i want to ask one of those questions. what, when do you like russia and any other interested nations to do at this point of time given the level of violence? what, what house, at this point of time to the people on the ground, not the various facts since, but the people who are still suffering towards the dimensions that's happening was done right now for them, for info orders. and that's trying to, uh, to see if this went into this auto home from work leads and dimensional community use go in both extreme and you'd be amazing experience just all the way in also continuous support as ours. if this is almost makes things easier and quickest, we most folks to load in some guns or would look has continued dances the way you

have a store uh supplying is a way problems. and this applies to the autos if you'll be able in advisor. gimme gimme an and accordingly, dizzy lane is in the 2nd in sports about western in general on pan board, some for the eastern con, you make things that ident indicating to the shop and then still leaking and causing you to stop or from disability. the me is poor for him because then you spell it because i had best visiting me want out of the home. he was all how does that? i chose all the presents in the west have. so for the, the items that to me won't come from be uh, by the list when i'm now, but i know it does seem to be as hopes that he might all these kinds of others. if i do that and sort of them as will have 0 allies, owns as of sun community, these google instead of built, you have to stop the war, need to slow towards the collective benefit, talk to somebody,

his paperwork filled for the police because unbox is deemed all safe in gwinnett because he needs all his uh, bands uh, holds the hold for the the dentist. okay. doctor. okay. we have to leave it there, but uh, i strongly side with your point of view that uh the war needs to stop for the benefit of the people. thank you very much for being with us and hope to see her again. on was a part of the the, the, the in february 2022 ukraine, the game, the world's number one, new story ukraine, ukraine, ukraine crane pressure, truth invaded to crane and england, prospective ukraine,

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