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a believe this to the violence insta. dont just have to be the words displacement and humanitarian crisis in the world of this very moment for us to mediate is have produced a few results on the times. smacked of extortion was all who can bring it to a close both to discuss it. i'm now joined by jobs, so i read all task executive director of speak for a for studies and developing a suit. any thing time doctor, i'll tell you if it's a great to talk to thank you very much for taking the time. thank you. it's and then so you for taking the time from the rest in addressing what's happening in. so though that i've seen some estimates suggesting that the scale of violence, suffering and destruction incidentally, eclipse has both the war in your brain and the conflict in gaza combined. and yet it receives significantly less attention, both from the media and from the international community. or what do you think explains that? what's happening to you?

so then here's by all means. so is only because of human duty and christ himself all types like we're talking about almost 26000000 people in day and unit duty and need to come here. i'm talking about drills, media and display is on the list. can i use those? enabling tennessee is we are talking about lying we into between outside law for schools. my team really understand the difference. uh, both on buying the dispose of the innovative city will have the uh, the, the books, it's a way of super duty and crossings kind 12. so thoughts of, on the 6 a lot of vote long since every support shared the situated, say very mean can we do town, but i despise them all of the hardest. if, when you 30 tactics and what does that? so is, so, i mean, said weakness by the words ins allows safety as low as the equipment. they said they don't really need to attention from the with on board because it will dissolve

the situation that supplies on many scenes work as a media. the reason i seem to be is beeping that it is about about what's the loading. so the series and maybe the that's mean broadcasting by 40. but what a spark, the community is, the only united part of them is we try to just defies all of those. if, for instance, done as war again, this is plenty is cardboard. i get is a beginning the media to the game on other than do the restore democracy are receiving the rules and so that is cool. you may have any attempt to cover letter and life was the crimes committed by his orders. if you see this officer really deemed up, i also want to mention something that a one high ranking your unofficial side about it. he said that's t. a brother said

that this conflict is being ignored due to the so called psychic phenomena where people feel more pathetic towards uh, transferred to you as the death toll continues to climb. to some extent, i think that's understandable. people around the world have their own lives to attend to, but we have special agencies. we have special institutions like be a for mentioned to you around to deal with those issues. they have the expertise, they have the resources of a base point of time. how would you assess, di involvement and di response to this i'm going emergency. do you insist being, was it, you know, mean katy and or quality can have the human seeing yet for some die, but the community and so that as you and feel the supports of transition, i mean, so that document for the transition of those are the meetings and so hope, you know, even he says in 2019 w. uh, excuse me. and just let me get on what are the c, u, z m c? oh cuz it's a nice little community as a whole feel and so forth. is that sounds you shouldn't be in a steve on uh,

google for the publishing. and this led to a cool new into the tool kit. and keyboarding bought the with allies to top. it was a cbm. sometimes it is thought of 5 being among themselves into interfaces. in between the 2 in the state, uh, the dimensional community, it has too many competing interest. and z, u. n is fairly default and the sink uh owns the store will meet in a city of a supplier and um, and underneath dimensions that i tend to use the situation. so the house i have uh can i just clarify uh, something that you just said that the international community sale to support the civilian transition. uh and so done. what exactly do you have in mind because you also have been critical and unwilling to accept any kind of for an intervention. so what measures do you're seeing that you should have taken to make this civilian

transition? by the way, you work for that civilian government to yourself, or to make it more stable to help and take groups in the, in a country that has been, let's admit, brutalized by violence for many years. it's really just call you wherever cause assistance info stuff. beauty is that transitional goals, a prime minister during the transition, and they continue various kind of that. so the nice little community was the morning said to me, telling these fees, why is that? you know, when you uh, phone cv and government and just the ceiling quotes these out settings that will result walk ins, all walk ins. for example, as a you is government continue to impose the sanction based on the nation will. so then as that as, as a state sponsor of to resume for almost 20 years of that is um, after the after the. so the needs to be able by themselves without no problems or

ways many seem to have be, don't bring down one of is a weird a space. let me use the sheets in the world and enough to go and after that. so you may have anticipating some sort of a support for the mass of the community to tell the start like the nothing media new pulse of the government. however, the you is decided at the filing, the last name. so the signings are brown up or in the steering to both of these are i don't see any or be seeing the name of the physical you know, to any, to anyone the you in. is it a new and have the guy, can you change the entire government and, and you don't see off. um was a consistent east coffee guy as the font i was informed. i'll try you out through the week. anything came on a tim to uh to, to revamp is a oh, how is that? is that your is and you don't be don't, here's the we saw the, the,

the image. it's the absolutely sideline display. lots of think symptoms in on the start picking and choosing how can go do the meaning of the facts and that sort of thing. the point flew offending there. unbeknownst for bell r and in between circuit and talk about how do you understand the interest of those belligerent forces, the military on one side and depaula merit and military and grouping? what are they fighting for at the moment? because from what i know be, so do these economy is in collapse of farmers kind of do the jobs, half of the population is facing acute food and security. are there any resources apart from the heavily brutalized population to be fighting over? there is no, i know this is awful, it's part of the wrist. as it is in a good risk of community continues to unfold. many of the resources on sometimes this has started to use a goal. we try being with that being very easy to use the ingles mining that's

being done, the ends of all true is mean one of the allies under the unit i need. we need it in on one of the lives while you uh, bypass the steps. how is coordination to image, especially because of the marketing debate and also what was the deal for you? because uh those they should also then the controls over 700 miles in file. it sort of invalid see, which is the biggest uh, the fluid, uh, in the little old. so i need, uh, it's also a major resource. uh, is the wills inside of the customer line. and we are a little confusing equity. and johnny knows the tried for a very long time and what can you can call the banking lobby and can you just on the line so 99 years on to the zip codes, even if it does, it does the lisay things even as very simple things uh my mother was uh would allow

him to do me a garage so uh before we do the communities, this may have the communities of course, what was the a lot of these uh, products. uh so, so basically i think the land water will um, what solution uh, does that mean things that makes a lot of of the super bowl already in general? well, the super bowl or the foot board and the, the board form to be super close as well. on the vehicle with you then at this point of time, do you believe that any civilian government can manage the situation on its own and what kind of, how can we be concrete? what kind of how you think would be the best for your country? oh, think it's small, any civilian government? by chance you have the testimony and government to uh, to go deep over into the concrete is almost, we need to understand one c apologies for this war is happening with any

between tool, but i do smoke alone. olds in is far, much way of the also works. most of us all those if was disability. all the forces that are good support forces we're part, you know, just a few years ago. you know, cool. does that. i gave me this. the meaning it's ends in uh, south most control over autos is on auto, if freely uh is uh, 5 feast and a be said of itself between either of us and the pin in to the feed sandfield going onto 15. so it's really 20, so me about like 40 boards far between an easy way, e and, and, and get to exactly to desist large. so without actually seeing, use me for machines or me fund dismantling cost is also autos. if,

as an institution, the main goal we looking carefully started beeping little on democracy in that one thing that i said ultimately because to say in, in the community, stop doing for you is that how the superficial misguided in defense in that is that try to address the, the risk of cause of the above and that suit a blind iphones items of the school may be by setting buffy as baltic to do these odyssey is, is even in allowing us to johnson and the only team for the school. we specialize in the zip codes, the more and more we have to take a very short break, but i promise you to return back to these very pressing issue of the for an intervention in your country. so stay with us. we will be back in just a couple of moments. the

the, the the welcome back to wells, a part with jobs for with i'll tell you up, executive director of the pro for studies and development,

the student needs think time. now. uh, doctor, i will say if i do want to discuss uh for an intervention, but before we go there, let me ask you specifically about the claims of the arab supremacist. i do always do that set to be running high within both the warring factions. i'm not an expert here, so i'm asking for it for your opinion here. i've heard that there was a certain size of our commanders, especially with the power military force. what have a fascist or supremacy is out of ideology, some of them hailing from the western dar 4 region and they're able to report that some of them believe that this is sort of dialogue that everybody else has to be driven out then that you know, they're the sole rightful owners of that place. is that true? it's true, but it's more complicated than sends out. but i think when you, when we originally it was tim you'll see is that describes the ideal you'll solve

this if is, is that i do say our fax is through an estimate. so can you use the spot, a pulse for both on the office of defining the states, both all 5 easy. well this, well, this is an exuberant be sabrina's ears being all kinds of fact that won't cover as of interest orders if, if our miles here is the nice. yeah. see what they want to use to. uh, because of the sort of thing is going towards the country going towards the land and why they are doing this. they are using the estimate bully b as i recall being that because of the cool things i, i left alex no. the cold. uh, people from use me from say it'd be just me ghost of drawings in regards to doing this. think only the of, of orders, disney, kinsey, they've only the mass i to most of these, unless building again is unless i need a genie in a, in may and june 20 twenty's the i've been the stairs of our,

with our own awfully conductor, for the tribes legal making things much cooling, i was hoping to have anything loves the only thing is the theme, adult abuse and masculine of in these uh, no, i didn't use other products and i use people, it's chrome or defendants in other areas. and sometimes like what's happening, you know, giving you the scanning for example, the leaves in the list. that's really odd as if guilt, almost 2000 people don't scream, it gives you the incentive. so then go on from our defense. so um, what were the things that they are designate factors, the host wise have been a very, very out us, if you see out was they are using the as, as, as it that the ground that was and i was and then jimmy winks uh the now i read that there are also cases of a trust that is an ethnic cleansing being committed by the army side as well. so none of them is particularly attractive to the forced to lead the country into the

future. now. uh, recently um 100 percent that's done. i'd have to, i'd have to point to something here because yes, the army normally is defending the army is to split up any of those, you know, so then as a look, move kind of reform. well, i'm telling dean cause this, this new was the 25th to about south and meeting is need, ah, i think be as grinds. it was when you look at the i took on was the simple slopes of you, the shape of stuff itself. you find, you know, from little by mouth, you'll notice from that for general are solvable. now, united, you shouldn't begin or false. are there to see that they submitted the assessment information to lieutenant didn't click on the files. i means that, you know, like the tub your resources, you know, i mean, you know what the lot for looks he tells you about the extent or send me the information. and this information got to be, we have a probably

a war between going back out this float. the do this, but one of them is lord, is that how it works? but as a tim phone said, the name is very important because groups name is green media to cover. how bad is the, how's the fact that if the uh, the was missing information and this information lives is on may last year, when some orders are up, the reports of our city, an official and vitamins to start to happy. that was the last school, the cd, and from each now from the floor and in the, in that sleep. by the 3rd off the bills, the former prime minister, easy as the man of all 3 of kansas 5. they do some school. maybe it was the police and you own the easiest thing here. you know, the other 2 bottles of the comfortable team on the to have 0 or the statement well on the said like going on maybe by the others. if i'm sitting you of these do

things with only the vice us while it was only at that time that or the skis is, will only be while he's the oddest, if well the it was an attempt from them, no police through. he wants to play of was there was a public outcry, and this will be called cry force that the medium from the rules are these big mean i will die about the lucky if he needs, i'm sure he's that the cost and using information on distribute things that mean, this is more just a boy, you think the middle, where does this a fix? the problem, the channels, the media, this affects the likelihood and safety also being more people of the book dates are be, want phones out of this all this floor. sometimes i had on until it's of this war we need to be fine except the way a very nice cars come from when you just trying to be name and that you are computer by distributing cars. um is it belated and bolts uh whole samples that lives like this. you know,

all the buildings are blinking and then you don't need to continue doing that. but it seems that they are doing. i think it also shows that the fail, statehood is a very complex phenomenon and you truly need to think very carefully and deliberately about how to lead the you know, a country through that very precarious transition that simply having a civilian government. there's nothing out there shouldn't be indeed an organized effort, both by the local society, but also by the neighbors well wishing neighbors and perhaps all the actors to how that very vulnerable and precarious process to go on, rather than leaving it on the, on its own. and exploring it for various, your political or economic reasons. now, now that we have come to the point of discussing for an intervention, you mentioned before, the role of the united arab emirates being very critical accusing it of funneling weapons to the part of military and groups. how do you understand the and the

rabbits impressed at this point? what are they trying to achieve there? and what was the one most confusing said, but it's video itself. we had had in the beginning of this year in january of 2024 audi floor. excellent. hawaii by you and you've been going to experience a break by thank you. in any event, the dates the to that for pointing fingers guided at the daily and for painting, single immunization, you know, certain 15 like the ones that bad still live on. so i was for to some of that, and after that you had like the buildings of independent ah reports from different media outlets. the human being is a continuous support of, of the continuous leave live lines of supply of weapons to the tools artist. if you need that for these ripples are be used to drill. so these people are already sort of these. it is off to report as of easily send things

oddest. if about the ones that are going to be friends with ones and for them with us to, to other countries. that's really peoplesolved from folk or no. uh, this is what i'm seeing using and i'm attend. if you have a crime of i, the vision of by you, he's a strong support. the was honestly, it seems to be once and it was the same time there on trying deals that normally take him through was his horse. and then so, as i mean here the or him, the i to add that and, and for that they are holding the screen. so is the only way they can install. the only thing is do with that with the you and as they are using sort of the blue matrix of humanitarian diplomacy, don't you also have, how do you understand their interest? because i'm very skeptical of various independent or un reports. i mean i, i used to be a reporter,

award importer in levy in syria. and i know how these documents, uh, you know, compose, they're hardly independent. but since you're an expert, then the you're, you're definitely they have an interest in the well being of, of your country. how do you understand all of those 4 in interventions? because it's not only the united arab emirates, and not only is there all, you know that the roster too has been accused in western media off supporting the part on military or for. so i want to understand why those nations are sad or indeed involving themselves in that matter. i think most the rest of you a year and model is or the visual have a ah, interesting so well. so that is really basically because of the down arrow keys and what we're on the south is that means it will south buicks in which was of use and rights to grow system down here to space. as i said, you were e, as looking outside of the customer, land ads, ads that it seats towards also done as united be sent to physical,

russia as being also known to be very much in board of things. uh, well, uh, smuggling from down, and by the way you say you smoke only use a 14 odyssey of course that you lean most sites on some more out there. they have the underneath and see going south and they have 0 relationships with all of us. if not, so is the fact that when she's list for nick the i've been useful for you. she does . uh, what was well, what, by the way, the 2nd the, the, because this is a very serious allegation. back there, a group is a private group that stage last year that stays the cool against the russian government. i mean, they were russian service meant that were kill them. that's cool. so it was a very shady story and it's true that the russian government relied on their services both in the ukraine and i think perhaps in some other places as well. but it is clearly, it is also clear that the crumbling does not issue orders to back in our wagner can oppose kremlin very strongly. so when you say that the roster is involved on both

sides, isn't the russian nation. i was the do you mean on, are you actually? yeah, you know, do you actually have in mind the crumbling, the official russian government who's trying to, you know, pull the strings and your country the criminal and of course, as present the default as formerly states. i believe this english is gaming you'd certainly, since the boy is up for one of the states, i believe this is that it was at the beginning. stuff was as well. the greetings has other funds which as you know, as you very much know after the zip code or 5, you know, when uh, some people only b c as little was lee brown beef. as i'll think of troops as they continue to uh, have some relation of the expensive business ties in africa. that's true. i'm not sure that because instead the guy who says the many other nations.

yeah. and, and then i'm talking to you and i'm not talking about patients i'm talking about justified in the room, which has, i've really complicating and maybe with ups and downs. really easy and see what with with us and, uh go look, look, live, smoke, forget that. said the rob rules in, in a few weeks before the war, when he was in some done the public, the defense of route and letting balls make games with them and say, are seeing that they are toby in fighting to losing and, and just of advise exec empty, so basically this was the restroom following the fields mr. king, make increasing that. so around the rules that was known for cleaning and sobriety and his to the other thing was nice is that just 2 months live in english here a war was, was different. the button and i noticed her as you oh, i'm sure, well,

no security in africa is a very precarious matter. there are indeed a request for private contracting services coming to walk in. there are perhaps some, some other officials from various african groups or african nations that the in and of itself does not. i think the prove that the russia in some matters supports terrorism or the violence against your country. i think if anything, i think it would benefit from, you know, normalizing the relationship because as you pointed out, it also may have interest in the, you know, warm water pores, etc. but since we have to finish our conversation, i want to ask one of those questions. what, when do you likes russia and any other interested nations to do at this point of time given the level of violence? what, what house, at this point of time to the people on the ground, not the various factions, but the people who are still suffering towards the dimensions that's happening was done right now for them, for info orders. and that's trying to, uh,

to see if this went into this auto home for work leads and dimensional community is go in both extreme and you'd be missing fairly stressful, b o, a and also continuous support as autos. if this is almost the same as the easiest and quickest we most folks award in some guidance or would love cost blinking, you know, you know, the way you have the store. uh, supply is a way problems. and this applies to the autos. if you'll be able in advisor to gimme, gimme an and accordingly do view lane. if in the next test, 2nd in sport is about western in general. and also for the eastern come you've made friends that ident indicating to the shop and then still leaking and causing you to stop all for one visit and easy me is poor for him because then you spell it because i had this, this will be me want out of the home he was or how does that i chose all the presents in the west have. so for the,

the items that to me will come from the buddies the list when i'm now, but he has no dtc infinities hopes that he might all these kinds all this if i do that and sort of them as well as they are all items of southern community, these google, instead of being sent to stop the war, need to stop towards the collective beneficial for something has been going well for the political and boxes that i deemed all safe in gwinnett, because he needs all the bands that holds the hold for the mean dentist. okay, dr. alton, we have to leave it there, but uh, i strongly side with your point of view that uh the war needs to stay for the benefit of the people. thank you very much for being with us and hope to see her again on was a part of the hello and welcome to across the full board. here we discussed some real in

the hey everybody. welcome back to moscow a welcome back to the last couple mules. i'm still shay bowes in oregon. this is still august and he's in the hot seat and i keep him there over nights at a woman more before the show where we started does have a blessed, submissive of think. well, how about the usa? you would imagine the things would have come down a little bit. there would've been a lot of holding greeting to.