get them with their respect, the right of their own people. i want to go back to what you said a moment ago about the introduction or the unveiling of the hypersonic weapon system that you said was a signal to the west, which signal exactly, i think many americans are not even aware that this happened. what message were you sending by showing it to the world? well, the messages up to you, i mean, you, the united states and the lice of the united states halls provide this long range height of weapons to the version. they must understand that we would be rigid to use any means not to allow them to succeed in what they call strategic dispute. the fresh they fight for keeping their heads you morning. overdue bolt on a new country in your region. then a continent,

we fight for legitimate security interest. they say for example, $90.00 to $91.00 borders they didn't cigarette and who visit the sometime and those and then steve for another and of the top. she bluntly, in presence of them, the sky thing said that your brain is very, are reach, was the area of metals. and we cannot leave this, this, this reach uh, the switch this to the russian. so we must state that we fight. so they fight for of the regime which is already did the sale or the gift to the west. all the natural and few more the resources we fight for the people who have been leaving this lens whose ancestors will actually developing those lands, building seats, as buildings, factories for centuries and centuries. we care about people not about the natural

resources which somebody in the united states would like, would like to keep. and to have you brand new ones, just as a servant on sitting on these natural resources. so the message which we wanted to so by testing in the real, in the real action, this hyper so next the system is that we will will be rigid to do anything to defend our digital with interest. we hate even to think about more ways to do tonight that states we should, we'll date so you know, when you play a nuclear cover at the military doctrine says that the most important thing is to avoid in your clue war. and it was us, by the way,

who initiated in january of 2020 to the message, the join statement by the leaders of the 5 permanent members of the security council saying that we will do anything to avoid confrontation between us and the june. that is respecting each other's security interest and concerns. this was our initiative and the security interest. so for us, or totally ignored when they reject it's about the same thing in one day, rejected the proposal to conclude a $32.00 on security guarantees for russia, for your brain in the context of a full existence. and in the context, when your brain would not be ever a member of nato or any of the military book,

the security interest, the for us more present the, to the rest of nathan until the united states in december 20th when july. and we discussed them several times including you remind me of meeting with stone, you're bringing in geneva, in january, late january 20 to $22.00. and this was rejected. so we would certainly like to avoid any misunderstanding. and since the depot some people in washington, then some people in london in brussels, seem to be not very capable to understand. we will, they will send additional messages if they don't, if they don't draw necessary conclusions. the fact that we're having a conversation about a potential nuclear exchange and it's, it's real,

is remarkable. not something i thought i'd ever see. and it raises the question, how much back channel dialogue is there between russia in the united states. has there been for the last 2 and a half years? is there any conversation there also and there are several channels, but mostly on the exchange of people who sort of terms in russia, in the united states, there were several slips. um, there are also general solution up, so advertising the publicized but basically the americans sense little bit as general the same message originally some public. so you have to stop. you have to accept the, the way which will be based on the ukrainian needs of ukrainian position. they support this absolutely pointless piece formula by

zalinski, which was addition recently by the victory plan. they held several series of meetings, copenhagen, former due to getting stuck what have you and they brag that next the 1st half of next year, they will tend to be in another conference. and they will then graciously invite russia that time. and then russia would be presented in the ultimate all this is seriously, i repeat that for all the various confidential channels. now we feel something different. includes things that excuse statements that we can stop now. and the line of engagement line of conflict, of the ukrainian government, we will be, we'll be able to meet the tomato. but natal guarantees at the station would cover

only the territory controlled by the government and the rest would be would be subject to negotiations. but the end result of this negotiations must be thought of as role refresher from, from russian soil. basically, just in the leading the russian people to the nice is 3 which exterminate that, all the rights of the russian and the russian speaking citizens of their own country. if you just go back to the question nuclear change. so there is no mechanism by which the leaders of rush, so the 9 states can speak to each other to avoid the kind of misunderstanding that could kill hundreds of millions of people. and no, no, no we, we, we have this channel which is a domestic and engaged when a ballistic missile lunch is taking place. as

regards to these additional hypersonic, the ballistic missile means the range, ballistic missile of 15 minutes in advance. the system sent the message to the united states and they knew that this was the, the, the, this was the case and that, so they don't mistake it for anything. the bigger and the real venture was i think the system sounds very dangerous. well it was, it was the best lunch, you know? yes. oh you're speaking of the test. ok. but i just wonder how worried you are that considering there doesn't seem to be a lot of conversation between the 2 countries. both sides are speaking about exterminating the others, populations that this could somehow get out of control in a very short period. and no one could stop. it seems incredibly, no, we'll not, we're talking about the exterminating anybody's population. we did not stop this

war. we have been for years and years and years sending warnings that pushing the door close and close it to our borders is going to create the appropriate yes, 2007, which important stuff that's to explain you know, to the people who seemed to be overtaken by the end of history and the, the domain of the no challenge and so on and so forth. and of course, when the cool a took place, the americans did not fight that. they were behind it. there is the conversation between the victorian newland and then the american them best within cheese when they discuss personnel that is to be included. and then you have and meant after the goal of the figure,

a 5000000000 bucks spent on ukraine of the independence was mentioned as the guarantee that every single would be like the americans ones. so we don't have any, any intention to exterminate ukrainian people, the brothers and sisters of the russian people. how many have died so far? do you think on both sides? it does not disclose the ukrainians. the landscape was saying that it was much less than a 2000 or since on, on ukrainian side. but the reason why i'm very, very reliable figure in the stein as julians, one here of to the easy way to start the or duration your response to this, the stuff that we should be condemned. and the this of duration, of course acquired the the propulsion of collective punishment,

which is against international humanitarian lawyer as well. so during one year of the operation start to even better stein the number of civilians, palestinian civilians cube is estimated. so 45000 this is almost twice as many as the number of civilians on both sides of ukrainian conflict who died during 10 years after the cool one year and 10 years. so it is, it is a tragedy in ukraine that's gives us the input is fine, but we never, ever said this old go accusing people and ukrainian regime

jeep the head of the office of zalinski. uh once said that we will make sure that she does like credit go for nico life will forget what russian means, that though another guy in his office stated that ukrainians must exterminate russians through more or if necessary. physic, the ukranian form on best of the catholic stones, full of his name, became famous when giving, getting into view and looking into the can, are being recorded and broadcast. just the, the main task is to queue as many russians as we can so that our

kids have less things to do. and the statements like this uh, all over the a vocabulary of the review. how many russians in russia have been killed since february of 20? 22? it's. it's not for me to disclose this information in the, in the time of, for me to, through the racial special rules exist and the minister of defense for elizabeth rules. but the, the a very interesting effect that one's a little steve was bleeding, not in the national very in the but that she's got music level with the, with this cold. she was the videos of from, from that period when he was bluntly defending the russian language. he was saying, what, what is wrong with the russian language?

shy, speak russian russians. a neighbor as the russian is, or one of one of our languages and the get the last few said to those who want to, to sort of to go out there to the russian language and the russian culture. when he became president, he changed the very 1st and the before they made it through the generations. and september 2021. he was interviewed, and the time he was conducting, or he gazed on the bus in violation of the mean script written and some the interviewer asked him, what you felt about the people on the other side of the line of contact. and she on sort, very thoughtful you know, the right people under our spacious and the few, leaving the new great few associated with the russian culture. my advice to you for

the sake of your kids, for the sake of your grandkids, get our direction. and if, if this guy wants to bring russians and people of russian culture, but on the, he's very thoughtful integrity. i mean it's, it's, uh, it shows that he's not the quotes or what, so what are the terms under which rusher would see facilities like what, what are, what are you asking for 10 years ago in february to 1014, we were asking only for the deal between the president and deposition yes. to have government of national union to hold early elections to be implemented. the deal was signed and we were asking for the implementation of this, do they war?

absolutely impatient and aggressive and they will of course portions. i have no slight those that would by the nearby cons, because e for victoria nolan than the us and best of the agreed the composition of the government. why wait for 5 weeks for 5 months to hold the elections? the next time we were in favor of something was when that means got written and so assigned? yes, i was the are the negotiations less that for 17 hours and the deal was well, great me. it was lost by them by the time, because of rector and them, and nobody including my colleagues, john kerry, well meeting with us. nobody knew us was raising the shelf game yet. everybody was constance, right? that done done bus. and then the meal stuff dream is provide that for to read

through the bridge of ukraine as minus great may of this was not the race and their special status for a very tiny bought of done bus not for the inside on bus, not from the sure from the little was adult, bought the done bus. under this means, the agreements endorsed by the security council should have the right to speak russian language to teach russian language to study in the russian to have local law enforcement like in the, in the states of us to be kind of south when judges and prosecute the south point that by the central authority and to have some facilitate that they cannot mix a connection. so is neighboring through regions so fresh. that's it,

something we'd show, but as a micro, on put on this to give to corsica. and the screw is considering how, how to do this. and when these agreements for somebody touched all along by 1st by publish and cool, and then by the landscape, both of them, by the way, came to a presidency and running on the, on the progress of these and both of them of light. so when this means agreements was sub attached to the extent that we, we saw that dense the big of this thing in your thought they've done best buy for us. and we supported unexplained. we have that thing and we suggest that this security arrangements to ne, during the united states was,

was which was rejected. and when the plan be of, was launched by the ukraine, then the sponsors, they trying to take this part of done best buy for us. it was them that we, that we launch the special media through duration and to get the implement the means government's ukraine would do one piece mine australia. but even then when you bring in stuff that we started, the duration suggested to negotiate. we agreed. there were several rounds and below it'll send one late to the move to east on both ends. in this done, the ukrainian delegation boards, the paper on the table saying those are the principles on which we are ready to audrey. and we accepted those for the minutes. principles? no, no, no. the eastern blueprints. yes, it was april 22, right. uh, which was no natal. but security guarantee,

still ukraine. collectively provided that was the participation afresh. and this security guarantees would not cover a tray. mia? for the east, though few great it was the a propos to, uh and uh, it was initially in the hands of the print engine negation in this bundle, who is now the sheer of the facility and steve fiction in the fall. and uh, she, recently, a few months ago in an interview, she confirmed that this was the case. and on the basis of this principles, we were rigid to draft that $32.00. but then this gentleman who had the dual credit and delegation in this bundle, she said the jump board is, but as johnson visit that then the defense you knew to fight,

then there was but worst johnson on behalf of the said no, but, you know, the, the guy who, who, who the initial debate. she said that was voters on some of the other people say it was put you on hold really in the deal because of the less go in bullshit. but mr. cohen butch's, something which i, they don't, they never mentioned that anymore must occur. and which i do, and we do in the sense in the, on the, on the defensive several times in the united nations security council. sitting at the table with as i'm telling you about that us as i 2 years ago in the last year or the last year and the see of the general assembly i raise the issue of motion said guys, this strange that to us, silent about butcher because you were very vocal when bbc team found itself

on the streets where the board is wor, locate that, and can be a, i imply of guns, we get the names of the parsons, whose board is war, broke. the costs might be the see. total silence. i have the rest, i'm doing you, but that is personally in the presence of the security council members, he did not respond to the my press conference in new york after the end of the general assembly. last september, i stole the correspondence, guys you joined the list, maybe on the investigative journalist, the journalist, normally interest to get the tools and which is things which was played all over the media outlets condemning russia is not the for any interest. the annual politicians, un officials,

and they'll even jump to this. i boss them when they talk to them in september, please. as a professional, as professional people try to get the names of those who, whose board is, was showing which know it's just like we don't have any answer to the question. whereas the results of medical analysis or phonics ain't nobody who died recently, but who was treated in germany in the fall of twins, 2 twins. when few failed beds on the plane of the russian, the plan. lemme that he was treated by the russian doctors in siberia, the germans wanted to take you. we immediately allowed the plain to come. they took

him in less than 24 hours. he was, he was in germany and then the germans continued to say that we boys on ship and we asked them, can you? and they announced that the, another system. so the few of us boys we asked for the, for the test results to be given to us. they said no, we're given the organization on chemical weapons. we went to this event is ation val, members. and we said, can you show to us because this is always citizen with the use of hitting boys and they said, the germans told us not to give it to you because they found nothing in the civilian hospital. and the announcement that she was poisoned was, was made off the, the, she was through that in the military hospital with the specialist. so it

seems that these, these secret is not going to how didn't have all the die. well, few died in the, the silver ring the door in the russian. but to do it during the, as far as it was reported, every now and then if you felt not, not to bill, which was and that's the reasons why we continue to ask the germans, can you show us the results of which you found? because we did not find what they found and uh what they did to him. i don't know what the germans did. oh, yeah. because they don't, they don't explain to anybody including us. well maybe they explained to the americans. maybe this is lisa stretchable, but they never told us how they $315.00 what they found and what,

what methods they, they were using. how, how do you think he died? i am not a doctor, but for anybody to get sleeping for the doctors to try to guess. they need to have information and the person was vacant, the gentleman to be treated off that he had been poisoned. the results of them of the test cannot be secret. we still cannot do. we still cannot get anything so credible on the faith of st. but instead of us could abundance use of his daughter of the information is not provided to us. she is, so we see it as and she's always citizen and we have all the older rights on the convention. so we should the u. k. sponsor to to get the information. what do you think some of the threats, but why do you think that force johnson,

former permanent sort of u. k, would have stopped the peace process is, is simple. on behalf of the door, i'm going to assume couple of times and the i wouldn't be surprised if if she was much of a to buy some we mediates desire or buy something along those threats. and she, she is not very predictable. but why? okay, do you think he was acting on behalf of the us government on behalf of the, by the ministration was doing this independently. i mean, on a, i don't know. i don't know. and they wouldn't guess. the fact that the, the near regions of the breeds are legion getting this in this quote unquote, a situation is, is of this. uh no, it is becoming also clear that there is a foot deep in some capitals and the adults every

now and then the americans would like to leave it was the europeans and to concentrate on something more important, i wouldn't guess we would. we would be judging by specific specific steps. it's insult because though that but the nice ration would like to leave legacy at the trump administration as bad as, as they can. yes. and similar to the bomber did to drum during his 1st over in late december 2016 uh, obama expelled russian. diplomats just literally december 120 person. so his family members, don't. doris, do you mind them on leave? on the day when there was no direct flight from washington,

so they had to move to new york by busses, result the luggage was children, and so on and so forth. and the same time, obama and now and so the rest of the diploma took appropriate a fresh and this we still never were able to come and see what's, what is the state of the some of these russian russian properties. what, what was the property diplomatic, they, they never allowed us to come and see the old convention, but just say that this, this be suspended. one can see this being covered by diplomatic immunity, which is a unilateral decision that, substantiate that, but in international. so you believe the body ministration is doing something similar again to the incoming trump administration because because of it, that is the is the spouse and then the seizure frequency certainly did not create the drum missing from the ground for beginning of our relations with the trump

administration so i think that during the se, but this time president trump was elected on the explosive promise to bring an end to the war and ukraine. so i mean the said that in appearance after appearance. so given that there is hope for resolution, it sounds like what are the terms to which you to agree on the terms. so i basically alluded to them when the president boynton spoke in this ministry on the fortunes of june. uh, she wants to gain the read, the rate of the 3 war rages to negotiate on the basis of the principles which will agree, then they stumble and reject the bi boys. join us on the 14th of the statement though they said the you put it into the ocean. the g principle is a.