the sensors and the security people in contact with it should be as long as groups the terrorist you just described who was backing them. well, we have some, some information that we would like to discuss. it was all low partners in this and this process the way uh, to cut the general self of financing good arming. then the information which is being flow that then it's in the public in the public domain mentions the americans, the breeds, among others. some people say that these are, it was interested in, in the, you know, making this situation that the rates so that does a, is not on the very close stretching it. it's a complicated the many,

many after say involved then the like hold the content switch. we are planning for this week. we'll have stipulates i suggest, what do you think of donald trump? i met him several times when she was getting new things were supporting and when she received me twice, i think even they overlooked this when they was visiting a full by let's roll adults. while i think she's a very strong thought, some a little some who wants results, who doesn't like procrastination and then i think uh and the i this is, this is mind pressure. she's very friendly in the, you know, discussions and the but this does not mean that the that

she's pro russian, the stuff. some people to write to present to you the moment the extensions to be received under the front. but ministration was a very, very, very big and we respect any, any other choice which is made by the people when they vote in the respect the choice of american people. and we opened this page and said we are open to context was we have given up an old old will along with the current administration and recall that so when the by them uh when the trump is and they'll get rated, we will understand what the bowl is which and so there's, on this side we never cv, are though a constant. so with dice in the equal in the mid 3,

the security you and then you think the how and my final question is how we sincerely worried. are you about an escalation and conflict between russian, the united states, knowing what you do? well, we struggled with this commission to more or less we, it seems the central question yes and the, the european say that it's not the least, but we spoke to each other, but this is not for the landscape to dictate the terms of the do. it's for the us and the russia. oh, i don't think they should be presenting, go relations as a you know, to guys decide for everybody. not at all. it is not that is not the style. we prefer the mentors which during the nathan breaks in psycho oppression of innovation where the un shut the principle of summer and the quantity of states

is really important. the u. s. as not the use of the respects, the southern and the quality of states, the united states. you know, when they say we cannot, the low russia to be a new cree because this will undermine our rules based world thought. and the rules based with all these americans organization know, by the way they go, at least on the by the administrative sion is i ink, uh oh, the, the, your asian continent. in doing the pacific strategy is of the south china sea, east china seas already on nate origin. nato is moving infrastructure that, of course, building quartets in the pacific before they call it a japan,

australia, new zealand, south korea to us cello, scary and japan building new the 3 alliance with some nuclear components. so, and the salt in the form of the secretary general of nato said, oh, last year for the summit, which she said you're to atlantic security is indivisible, from in the pacific security. when she was asked the does it mean that you go, do you want territorial defense? no, no no, it doesn't go beyond. so the total defense but to defend though etc totally. we need to be present. the lease element of pre emption is more and more present. so but with the united states we we don't want to or was any but. and as i said, nuclear 5 nuclear states declared that this the,

the adult level in the january 2022 that we don't want confrontation with the child. that we show respect each of those security interests and concerns. and it also stated so, no clue was a new clue. what can never be one and the 4 nuclear war is not possible. and the same was a read the rate it's by literally between the russians united states put in by them when they may have to enter into one in geneva in june. basically they to reproduce the statement by re going them. gorbachev of 1987. i think no new clue war, and this is of absolutely, you know, a vital in through sunday cold that this is also in vital interest of the united

states. i say so because sometime ago, mr. kirby who is a white house, communications, college and nato, whatever. he was asking questions of answering questions and about escalation and the both possibilities of nuclear weapons being unemployed. and she said, oh no, no, we don't want escalation. because then the, if there is some nuclear element, then you will, your deal know, lice would suffer. so even mentally she excludes the united states kind of stuff. and this is something which, which makes the situation, it'd be 3. so it might, if, if this means that it's a prevails, then some reckless steps would be taken,

then this is but, so what i think you're saying is american policy makers. imagine there could be a nuclear exchange that doesn't directly affect the united states. and you're saying that's not true, that's. that's what i said, yes, no, but you know, the professionals in the durance nuclear deterrence policy, they know very well that it's a very dangerous game and to speak about a limit that the exchange of nuclear strikes is an invitation to disaster, which we don't want to have special ed rough. thank you very much. thank you. the, [000:00:00;00]

the, if you think about russia, what does your mind to pick to the bottom landscapes? open up the phone lines, the water one. do you imagine the, the discounts dodge the journey? the are you ready to come along

the same road just don't you have to safe house to come after kids and engagement because the trail when so many find themselves will support we choose to look so common ground the the minister thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us about all aspects regarding a rough shop practiced on the relationship, especially now is an i q are to say that we're seeing momentum growing in the relationship between russia and pockets start as well as now we have the rush out pocket started in terms of a mental commission made of what are some of the issues you've been discussing. and

i think the jody started about 9 years ago over in the integrated commission process started. but the input to this has happened to of, to present port ends in 5 minutes issue a bunch of these meeting last year. this is actually charles created into a motor activity and more the interaction between the 2 sites. and then the seo summit that was hazardous lum, uh, a month or 2 a month ago. that was also um and it also proposes relationship into a new kind of and i mention so i think bug side that actually i have a lot to do for this relationship. and we are trying our best to actually pin down this relationship to a few. um, uh, low hanging fruit, it could be harvested to translate that into

a benefit from the peoples of the 2 countries. so we're seeing more meetings and there will also be another integral mental commission meeting at the end of this year that's been announced. what can we expect? anything concrete we trying to actually do the lives of what we've decided so far. so the next into american commission would actually be taking stock off of you have been able to perform the next one year. and you're also wanting to expand that to more after the shoes, like cartoon tires and sports and human resource development. so these would also be figuring out in the next a g, c. and we're doing the next seo. we would also be wanting to actually materialize whatever we have decided now. so what are we talking about? can you elaborate a little bit on your talking about as early as march next year to get

the 1st south north jean trial run to go funded logistics. and for goods to be transported from pressure to bikes on why you know, knows every job you're looking at, you know, it's been to find you more useless training programs. you're looking at the possibility of the chinese companies coming in looking at the technical and financial visibility is often used admin at the time or the soviet union was invested into by the soviet union in fog assignment that was on its life. so we're looking at these 3 or 4 major. the initiators you're looking at uh, linkage, all fog sign in russia to airline services. the reason sector that makes it easier for our people to interact with each other, businesses to flood extra and interact and communicate with each other. we're talking about direct flights between moscow and as long as not house. how close are

we to seeing that you should next word shouldn't be engaging with each other very soon on this and leave ticket as we go along. but i think the written and the interest of both sizes is enough for us to initiate a subject to redeem any. so what does this move mean? they said that symbolic in any way direct flights. yes, it's more interaction, it's more, is people getting closer together is the use of doing business as ease of cartoons forcibly as programs. it's. there's a bunch of connectivity. so it's face to face and relationship building. it has of all together are political and economic and i've mentioned to it that plugs into inverse you haven't seen for a life. have you sign in the agreements recently? yes, the i will use that and sign many agreements, suicide for scientific collaboration, then for authentic to reduce across different sectors and the economy. so the

prostate to decide you seem to 5 or 6 different m o use and been expecting a proper trade framework agreement to be signed or the next year. so we've also made a lot of progress and actually reaching the concluding point that uh, framework of change competition. and also from what i understand pocket stone is very interested in becoming a bricks partner where this pockets on stand in terms of that we have what we would apologizing. we are, we do have an old silver status of our module. and that's in collaboration with all the big rema states other than the ones, maybe you might not be very interested in that's coming over. but i think it shows quite supporting most indeed effort. and so is china and uh, i think bikes, i would add a lot of course i would contribute to

a lot to the on the books for him. and really expecting that to happen within the next year or so. what would pack a start again from being the books member closer cooperation, economic entered corporation with these countries. and there many advantages the punch son could offer to these rebels dates and the member states could offer to us towards this another platform on which further collaboration core desired to the benefits for all of us. the reason i ask is because we hear a lot of criticism from the west, for example, i would say, oh brooks doesn't really mean anything. it's only purely symbolic. nothing comes out of that. that is why i'm asking, well, what would i comfortable with pockets on actually gain from this? how would have benefit you mentioned cooperation? is there something more specific, perhaps in the bug, some bugs that doesn't quite look at things in the east west kind of

a context be strongly believe that we need to work group or partners. bricks also gives you advantage of focus on for better causes using corporation with the member states within the big same book. so the logistics advantage, the trade, the manufacturing process of technology, access to resources that in order to come to poverty and especially developing programs that could help humanity fighting climate change. looking towards the everybody, mental issues addressing the new booms, addressing of energy that is not clean enough. so there is a wide range of activity that points on using wall frame. trying to explore varies in ridge of financial transactions, can be sent to the more efficient manner,

talking about that pockets on the recently actually used the chinese you want as a settlement currency and it's an oil trade with russia. how does that experiment go over? we see more of that, will it be just the chinese you on may be a different currency. yeah, we're exploring these as we speak. we've also agreed and decided that he will continue to explore different mechanisms and supplement um tools which are not in violation of our global commitments. what global development partners august sun is in an unusual kind of situation. and so as in our shop, a bug sign is depending a lot on, on very key developing partners made made to be in the west of the east or the north of the soap. and the strongly believe that we need to take a little more developing partners as we go along, address as of late and tried to translate any advantages that any country

like. and i showed us have to give to each other and share it with each other. but so for the 1st experiment, we would say it was a success and it will interesting that i think it needs to be further in ons, if you need to find more efficient and more cost effective mechanisms that could actually maintain the so called competitiveness of the transactions, and the end of the day, it's almost you'd cost who and what kind of an advantage it's do they get? so the more the expense auditors to treat, the less it goes on the more than factor terms and the more trust bed introduce the budget. let's just focus a little bit on phrase because over the past, the year trade between russian and pockets on the turnover has grown more than 50 percent and now exceeds $1000000000.00. what kind of a areas are of interest to pocket?

so when it comes to trade with russia, it is a trade in balance of the dealership bugs sent in to see this one. so besides exports probably about $79.00 to $80000000000.00 worth of commodities and services . and she likes works close to a 1000000000. so we wanting to also work towards an environment where the balances is more balanced and so bug sign is to hold products. i think bikes and to be one of the most important to boss, could sold or shared to important food commodities. that associate cannot go on x one. we've also talked to, for george, read to possibilities all for russian companies with dogs. and they're coming down a part of the for producing process that are part of the value addition process. we're able to dig back whatever they add value to introduce impacts on swiping working on their joint venture bases,

and not just as trading park notes in sins of stability for the future. that converts us into more long term marketers and just seeing the trading opportunities in realizing those supply side is looking at that kind of strategy. so, so far from what i hear from agriculture, agriculture as the country steed wanted to find rates as all these sectors of value to be added for both countries that i think there is an understanding what we do in both camps. bed. yes, the advantage is to be taken and we need to reduce the lens. what are some of the issues that you're encountering in terms of a trade with russia? some of the challenges and the, i'm not talking about western sanctions right now. look at other things. i don't think our business is know each other and well enough. i don't think that has been

enough interaction with the people of between the people on sunday and i see on the business to business site business man uh, actually make it on happened. their detractors to us, the movie or the people create an environment. so read over, you're working on the environment. and we're also in the meantime, get the people decide to interaction with each other that are not more enhanced the airline services, as the dream experience said, you're wanting to have a, the next tier. so these are the basic challenges. i think a lot of traders and i'll be below the american market citizens, an example of the chinese market a lot better and then know the russian market, the way things are done, our transactions take place, order the of complications and money to go out to overcome those i think the more the into that the more efficient and environment recreate within the time

framework. it says the better pocket started is also an up uh the membership and the ration economic a union could. we'll see something like that also come to fruition that could be a possibility. and again, what would pockets tom game from, from this union, all unions, all sorts of platforms and all sorts, multinational organizations or whatever that is cool to communicate and to, into that we've had, we've had experience in the past that we're not that pleasant is, is, it's is the re, countries go to the opportunity to communicate their point of view and to understand are those points of views or to such for us and by design is pretty open to it. funk side is wanting to see

a peaceful religion of dejan with that he could all make and jude connectivity. and cooperation are the agent where the people on countries good well together. so these kinds of photos would give bucks on a good opportunity to place a drawer, and these are these kind of phones. so membership and such unions is good for both countries. and what else would you say is needed since the resin legislature to solidify the relation to what? i think we need to start acting? no, i think we need to have transactions going no. so every transaction that happens, every investment that's made on, on the side or on the ocean site is going to, for the sooner to find the soonest the board we get to enjoy the more we work with each other towards the trade, the more the invest,

the water between our human resource towards one is coming into russia, the water daughters that go into punk fun. i think each and every step that happens from loan should be taken as a part of the cds of improvement of relationship and companies. as we need to build on, on the basis of each step that we dig into, that it has to be a continued ren connected strategy and a portion own thing. and that's what both sides actually to realize. are there any concerns that the close of pocket song gets to russia, that there could be pressure from the wes? this should not be the should both be or should not be the should not be i think as we go along. of even both are both us sure and bunk. so wouldn't uh very clearly communicate to the one as the going on. and this relationship is hard

for to home. anyone on is not against the interest stuff anymore. we are doing it to not on interest. and only to the extent we're all in just hard for our mutual benefit. and please, uh, i keep saying this, we must realize that if we cooperate with each of them, it is an advantage that comes to all the economies. it will automatically prostate into a global economic advantage. so if we get more, appreciate working with each other. and then we have working with other countries and that agent continued trust in the benefits of others. how does it tom anymore? so there's a lot of great relationship should be and is built upon the principles of mutual benefit and accomplish model any

behind the scenes more days or inches headquarters on anybody else in the world. sylvia wanting to engage people to be completely clear off this particular print, underlying principle for the next. that's exactly where vladimir puts and says all the time bills and sleep beneficial relationships with other countries, regardless of what's happening politically and not using that to punish countries in terms of sanctions, western sanctions have they had any effect or impact on the rush of pockets on relations to be a political, financial, economic. yet we haven't been able to create and confident economic give you as much as you called of us stifling the pretension of growth in our economy. competition exemptions are doing that. so i hope and

wish that come things are normalized enough across the global political and economic landscape. 2 appointments on such sanctions can be removed and funding global economy to work and open it would efficiently in order to the resources that are services that she is. she would be amazing and could at quite as in, like, on the global community take advantage of that and without any concerns. at the other players in the world have regarding the issue, i think they should be open enough to sit down with my shell and talk things over. so i think speaking to each other and more communication amongst globally pause like an issue and the wrist is something that is absolutely critical for the growth of 3rd world countries like us. and finally, one last question, something that a lot of people of course, are very interested in when it comes to nuclear energy right now,

is the prospect again that we can see cooperation between russia and pockets on in that field. we haven't quite spoken each other on that is yet. we do have a very it has these 7 nuclear energy program and bunk song. and um china bug, so i know we'll get closer together. you can energy is a big part of on energy production. is clean energy, it's efficient energy. and uh, depending on the inches of the joint working groups at the i g. c level between russia and bunker thought that it would, there is some changes shown and expressed by us or by and i should actually be able to explore that possibility in the most of the most efficient manner. maybe it's one of the things that will be, discuss that the next step and so governmental

a commission meeting that was announced. what will happen at the ends of the year minister. thank you so much for having, you know,

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