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tv   Cross Talk  RT  December 6, 2024 5:30pm-6:01pm EST

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was well grey, me, it was lost by them, but by that time because of rector and them and no, but including my colleagues, john kerry meeting, who is us. nobody knew us was raising the shelf. great, knew everybody was concentrated on done bus. and then the meal stuff agreements provide that for to be total individual few green minus gray me of this was not the race and special status for a very tiny bought of done bus not for the entire on bus, not from the rush. the from the little was adult, bought the done bus. under this means, the agreements endorsed by the security council should have the right to speak russian language to teach russian language to study in the russian to
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have local law enforcement like in the, in the states of us to be kind of south when judges and prosecute the south point that by the central authority and to have some facilitate that they cannot make a connection. so is neighboring region so fresh. that's something we'd show but as an macro and put on this to give to corsica. and the still is considering how, how to do this. and when these agreements for somebody touched all along by 1st by about a sion cool and then by the landscape, most of them, by the way, came to a presidency running on the, on the progress of these and both of them of light.
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so when this means agreements was about the actual, the extent that we, we saw that dense the big of this thing you bought, they've done best buy for us. and we split and explained we have the die. and we suggest that this security arrangements to ne, during the united states was, was which was rejected. and when the plan be of, was launched by the ukraine, then the sponsors state trying to take this part they've done best buy for us. it was them that we, that we launched the special meet at the duration and hit the implement the means government's ukraine would do one piece mine australia. but even the around ukrainian stuff that we started the duration. so just to negotiate, we agreed there was several around as a biller, we send one late to the move to east on both ends in this bundle ukrainian
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delegation board paper on the table saying those are the principles on which we are ready to audrey. and we accepted those for the minutes. principles? no, no, no. the eastern blueprints. yes, it was april 22, right. uh, which was no nato, but a security guarantee. still ukraine, collectively provided that was the participation refresh. and the security guarantees would not cover premium for the so feel free. it was the a propos uh, and it was initial and the head of the brand and delegation. and this done bull who is now the sheer of the gazillion, steve fiction in the fall. and she recently, a few months ago in an interview she consume that this was the case. and on the
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basis of this principles, we've all ready to draft the 32. but then this gentleman who had the dual credit and delegation in this bundle, she said the jump board is boat is johnson visit that then the defense you knew to fight. then there was a foot board, as johnson on behalf of the said no, but you know, the, the guy who, who, who initial debate. she said that was voters on some of the other people say it was put you on hold really. and the deal because of the less that go in the bullshit but mr. cohen butch's something which i they do, they never mentioned that anymore must have gone. and which i do, and we do in the sense it to the, on the, on the defensive several times in the united nations security council. sitting at
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the table was antonio. but that is like 2 years ago in the last year or the last year and the see of the general assembly. i raise the issue of motion said guys, this strange that to us silent about butcher because you were very vocal when bbc team found itself on the street to where the board is for. locate that and can we? oh, i inquired, can we get the name of the door since was board is or brought the costs might be the see total silence. i of the rest i'm doing you, but there are so many in the presence of the security council members. so she did not respond then up my press conference in new york, after the end of the general assembly last september, i stole the correspondence,
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guys you joined the list. maybe i'm not an investigative journalist, the journalist normally interested to get that sort of and which of things which was played all over the media outlets condemning russia is not the for any interest to any of them. but additions un officials. and they'll even journalist i ask them when they talk to them in september, please, as a professional, that's professional, people thrive to get the names of those who, whose board is with showing which you know, it's just like we don't have any answer to the question where is the results of medical analysis or phonics, and nobody who died recently of but who was treated
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in germany in the fall of twins, 2 twins when she felt beds on the plane of the russian, the plan limits. she was treated by the russian doctors and said, be ready to the gentleman's wanted to take you. we immediately allowed the plane to come. they took him in less than 24 hours. he was, he was in germany and then the germans continued to say that we boys and ship and we asked them, can you? and they announced that the another system failed. the few of us boys 3 asked for the for the test results to be given to us. they said no, we given the oven is ation. on chemical weapons, we went through this again is ation val, members. and we said, can you show to us because this is always citizen with
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a use the cutting boys and they said the germans told us not to give it to you because they found nothing's in the civilian hospital. and the announcement that she was poisoned was, was made off the, the, she was through that in the military hospital with the specialist. so it seems that these, these secret is not going to how didn't have all the die. well, she died in the silver ring. the door in the russian. but to do it during the as far as it was reported, every now and then if you felt not, not well, which was another reason why we continue to ask the germans, can you show us the results of which you found?
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because we did not find what they found and uh, what they did the human. i don't know what the germans did. yeah. because they don't, they don't explain to anybody including us. well, maybe they explained to the americans. maybe this is basis credible, but they never told us how they through the team, what they found and what, what methods they, they were using. how, how do you think he died? i am not a doctor, but for anybody to get sleeping for the doctors to try to guess. they need to have information and the person was taken to a gentleman to be treated off that he had been poisoned. the results of them, of the test can be shifted. we still can not do, we still cannot get anything so credible on the faith of st. but instead
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of us going to buttons use of his daughter, the information is not provided to us. she is saw with citizen and she's always citizen and we have all the for folder rights from the convention. so we should the u. k. sponsor to to get the information. what do you think some of the threats, but why do you think that force johnson, former permanent sort of u. k, would have stopped the peace process and this is temple on the behalf. is he doing well? i'm going to see him couple of times and i wouldn't be surprised if if he was much of a to buy some we mediates desire or by some along the dumpster attention. she is not very predictable. but why? okay, do you think he was acting on behalf of the us government on behalf of the, by the ministration was doing this independently. i mean, on a,
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i don't know. i don't know. and they wouldn't guess the fact that the, the near regions and the breeds are leading, getting this and the so quote unquote, the situation is, is over this. no, it is becoming also clear that there is a fatigue in some capitals and the adults every now and then the the americans would like to leave it was the europeans and to concentrate on something more important, i wouldn't guess we would be judging by specific specific steps, it's insult because though that but the nice ration would like to leave legacy at the trump would be, especially as bad as a, as they can. yes. and similar to the bomber did to drum do inches so.
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so in late december, 2016 obama expelled russian diplomats just literally december 120 dorsen suites. family members. do that on purpose? do you mind them on leave? on the day when there was no direct flight from washington, so they had to move to new york by buses. was old, the luggage was children, and so on and so forth. and the same time a bummer and now and so the rest of the blood magic abruptly afresh. and this we still never were able to come and see what's, what is the state of the some of these russian russian properties. what, what was the property a diploma? it's they, they never allowed us to come and see you though on the old convention. but just
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say that this, this piece has to be done. can see this being covered by diplomatic immunity, which is a unilateral decision that substantiated by in international so you believe the body ministration is doing something similar again to the incoming trump administration causes because that is the, is the spouse and then the seizure frequency certainly did not create the drum, missing the ground for beginning of our relations with the trump administration. so i think that during the se, but this time president trump was elected on the explicit promise to bring an end to the war and ukraine. so, i mean, the said that in appearance after appearance, so given that there is hope for resolution, it sounds like what are the terms to which you'd agree on the terms. so i basically alluded to them when the president boynton spoke in
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this ministry on the 14th of june. she wants to gain the read, the rate of the 3 war rages to negotiate on the basis of the principles which will agreed in this bundle and rejected by boys joins. so not going to the statement though. they said the you put it into the ocean. the principal is, uh no, no new york state or so feel free and we would be ready to be part of the group of countries who would provides collective security guarantees. so no, no, no, no, they don't absolutely know me that 3 basis, no mean a 30 minute 3 exercise us on the brand new. so it will be as participation of $4.00 and $4.00 in groups. and this is something which here in retail rate. but of course, she said it was april 2022. i
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know some time has passed and they really just on the ground, what we have to take on the account and accept they're really just on the ground are not on the line of contact. but also the changes in the russian constitution left the river and that was skilled in the, near the school a balanced republic sense. you have some ends up arrows, you regions. yes. and they are now part of the russian federation, according to the constitution. and this is area to and of course we cannot, we cannot so the full rate a view. we should keep of, of the legislation which as well with the pressure between the russian language, russian media, the russian culture, the ukrainian orthodox church. because it is
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a violation of the obligations of ukraine on the, the, on shelter and somebody must be done about that. and the fact that the west, since the so, so for the legislature of the legislative offensive stuff that into, into 70 and send the rest of the silent and that the, so i wouldn't until now of course, we would have to pay attention to this in a very special way with dropping sanctions against russia be condition uh, you know, i would, i would say probably many people in the rush of who would like to make it their condition. but the more we leave on the sanctions, and the more we understand that that is better to rely on yourself and to develop mechanisms to develop lift forms for coal duration was normal. countries
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who are not unfriendly to you and know and don't mix economic interest. and the policy isn't especially politics. and we learn to lot of to the essential stuff, the central and stuff that done, the obama. they continue, it's in the very big way on the system of trump, in this essential incentive to buy the ministration. absolutely unprecedented. but uh, what doesn't kill you make, makes you stronger, you know, and well, what else is driving they would been never us. so they're making us strong and driving russia east and so division that i think saying, policy making yours and washington had 20 years ago is why not bring rushed into a western block sort of has a balance against the rising east and it,
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but it doesn't seem like that, do you think that's still possible? uh, i don't think so. when the reason slip, which end was uh speaking good. uh well the club, uh, adult logistics and experts. uh, she said we would never be back in the situation of only 2022. that's when she realized for himself up there and not only she but she, she spoke publicly about this and that all attempts to be on equal terms with the west failed. they've started in the after the demise of the soviet union. there was you for
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a while now part of the a lead or a world, the democratic world, the end of history. but very soon it was, it became clear to most of the russians, and that the, in the ninety's and we were 3. that is, that the best of junior part may have been nothing in this apartment, but there's a place we are on the west. can organize things like it's like it was a striking deals was oligarchs buying resources. and this, that's uh and then probably the americans decide that the rushes in their pockets modest deals and building the barges, lashing joking. but even at the end of the hill,
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some storm, she stopped to contemplate, the, this was not something she wants it for us. and i think this was a very old, this one she, uh, the point that puts in prime minister and then the left on the uh and the blessed fortune a few successful for the election. so which will come in guns which fortune one. but when fortune became president, she was very much both in the cold duration with the rest. and she mentions about this quite, quite regularly when she speaks was interview or so. that's some international international events i was present when
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she met is george bush junior, is obama? well, after the meeting of natal in bucharest, which was a company which was folded by natal rushing, meeting, some meetings in 2008 when they announced that georgia and ukraine will be nato. and then they tried to sell it. we asked why? oh, there was luncheon, put you on us. what was the reason for this good question? and they said, you know, this assumption which is not obligatory. how come? well, you know, to start the process of joining nato. your needs are formal invitation and this is
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a slogan. ukraine than georgia will be in need of. but this slogan, you know, became up session for some people in the release, the 1st and 2nd. she lost his senses and stuff to do or against his own people. on the, the protection of oil, a c mission was the russian peacekeepers on the ground. and the fact that she launched this was consumed by the european union and investigation of originally launched. and we concluded that she gave me the all the stuff and the for your brain is that took a bit longer when they will, calculating this pro western mode. well promised elizabeth basic to the priest. and there's also not that what is bad is that you felt people either or either your goal was mean or you might
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and what's happened before the vehicle in your trade in 2013 the, the president of your brains was a new steel no co niche negotiate that was the european union and some association agreement. we should notify it. there is still on most of the opinion, goods to the european union and then the other way around. and at some point, once he was meeting was we use the russian counterparts. or we told him, you have all the reds ukraine said, was part of the free trade area of the commonwealth of independent states. note there is for every but, and we russia negotiate that agreement to is
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a whole trade organization for some 50 and 17 years, mostly because we were going to is europe in the union. and we achieved some protection for many of our sectors. every couch of some others and we explained to the ukrainians that if you go 0 in your trade was, you know, at the end, you know, we would have to protect our customs board the was you was you great. otherwise, the 0 theory, fewer at the and go with sort floods and would be searching go industries, which we try to protect. and i'd read for some protection that was suggested to the european union. guys, ukraine is our common neighbor. you want to have a better trade was ukraine. we want to say, ukraine, want to say with markets most in europe and in the russia. why don't we see 3 of us
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and discuss that leg grownups. the shadow of the european council commission condition was the portuguese, but also was his name. then she responded, you know, it's not none of your business. what we do is you play uh and then the uh, the president of your tree yellow goldfish. she can be and she was experts and the experts said, yes, it would be not very good. you for you have opened the board, the was, is your doing the union? but the customs border was russia would be with the close and they would be checking, you know, of what, what this coming uh so that the, the russian market is not using the fact that uh, mt in loans in november 2013 that
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so she can not sign the deal immediately and to possibly are doing the union to postpone it for next year until next year. that was the, the 3 year form i had done the which was immediately it yes, uh, throwing up and uh, and the bye bye bye. the cool, so my, my point is that this either or actually the 1st, the 1st cool took place in 2004. when left the 2nd round of elections, the same use the on the call, each one presidency, the west raise to fail and put the pressure on the constitutional good. so feel free to write the must be filled throat and the constitutional fuel crane says 2 rounds in the constitutional court, under the pressure of the west, violate of the constitution for the 1st time of them and pro,
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less than the candidate was chosen at the time when all this was taking place and winning the europe, young leaders were publicly saying, your grand and people mazda side of a was us, always rushing this either or is, is still very much for your money. it is the way that the countries behave. i mean, there are certain or bits and now it's bricks versus new us versus china. and it sounds like you were saying the russian chinese alliances permanent as well. we're a verse, well neighborhood. and the geography is very important. and you're also neighbors with questionnaire up tomorrow. in effect, to sort of ukraine and the western europe wants to come to borders. the
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during world war 2, the germans with the help of the ship. the creation revolutionary movement that the independent state of croatia transported hundreds of people have no way to work in force, labor camps. the germans wanted the work force to build roads and the infrastructure in norway. so when they couldn't get enough prisoners from serbia, they contacted through social and the install of these camps to your had the death rate up to 82 percent each, which she's actually higher done in the ultimate, among the dozens of children voice, the georgia evo. but not the not clear below. go to the coast to this and the roads, the type, the owner's school that'd be good to. this is a goodness assurance and it would not say that they had the horrible conditions except from the t lease. many people died from surveys,
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a hunger as diseases, very few made it back home. well, let's just move it to the, to logic drove the table 9 mozy, but you and that process, and this is what i mean. and then they go over all the today to says the line should not be considering a peace plan for ukraine. this is what in said, be focused on sending more weapons to cue again. the alliance demonstrates it can never entertain plans for peace and stability as well. as security for all in the meantime, just want to continue the,
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