himself, let's get off this mountain and explore this divine land has to offer the what are the terms under which russia would see facilities like what, what are, what are you asking for 10 years ago in february to 1014, we were asking only for the deal between the president and deposition, yes. to have government of national units have to hold early elections to be implemented. the deal was site and we were asking for the implementation of this. do they war? absolutely impatient and aggressive and they will of course, portions of no slight as noted by the americans. because

e for victoria nolan than the us and best of the agreed the composition of the government. why wait for 5 weeks, for 5 months to hold the elections? the next time we were in favor of something was when that means that women so assigned. yes, i was the are the negotiations less that for 17 hours and the deal was well, gray, me, it was lost by them by the time because of rector and them and nobody including my colleagues, john kerry, well meeting with us. nobody knew us was raising the show of great new everybody in wisconsin's right, the done done bus. and then the meals to agreements provide that for a terry total due a few green minus gray me. this was not the race and special status for a very tiny bought of done bus, not for the inside on bus,

not from the rush, the from the little was adult, bought of done bus. the. this means the agreements endorsed by the security council should have the right to speak russian language to teach russian language to study in the russian to have local law enforcement like in the, in the states of us uh to be got a south when judges and prosecute the south point that by the central authority and to have some facilitate that they cannot make a connection. so is neighboring through regions so fresh. that's it. something we show, but as an macro on put on this to give to corsica. and the still is considering

how, what to do this. and when these agreements for somebody touched all along by so somebody bought a ship, cool, and then by their landscape, most of them, by the way, came to a presidency running on the, on the progress of these and both of them of light. so when this meals agreements was attached to the extent that we, we saw that dense big of this thing about they've done best buy for us. and we split unexplained. we have that thing and we suggest that this security arrangements to ne, during the united states was, was, image was rejected. and when the plan be of, was launched by the ukraine, then the sponsors, they trying to take this part they've done best buy for us. it was them that we,

that we launch the special me that the duration of the implement the means governments. ukraine would do one piece mine australia. but even the when ukrainian stuff that we started, the duration suggested to negotiate. we agreed, there were several rounds and below it'll send one late to the move to eastern bull . and in this bundle ukrainian delegation for the paper on the table saying those of the principles on which we are ready to agree. and we accepted those for the minutes. principles? no, no, no. the eastern blueprints. yes, it was april 22, right. uh, which was no. natal butts as security guarantees. still ukraine collectively provided that was the participation afresh. and this security

guarantees would not cover premium or the east though few great it was the a propos uh, and it was initial and the head of the brand and delegation in this bundle, who is now the sheer of the facility and steve fiction, in the fall and she recently, a few months ago in an interview she consume that this was the case. and on the basis of this principles, we were rigid to draft the $32.00. but then this gentleman who had the dual credit into litigation in this bundle, she said the jump board is board. is johnson visit that then told them to continue to fight? then there was a foot board at johnson on behalf of the i said no, but you know, the, the guy who,

who, who initial debate. she said it was voters on some of the other people say it was put you on hold really in the deal because of the less that go in bullshit. but most of them don't use something which i they do. they never mention that anymore must occur in bush either. and we do in the sense it to the, on the, on the defensive several times in the united nations security council. sitting at the table was antonio. but that is, as i, 2 years ago in the last year or the last year and the see of the general assembly. i raise the issue of motion said guys, this strange that to us, silent about which you, because you will very vocal when bbc team found itself on the streets where the board is wor, locate that, and generally i imply of the jobs we get the names of the dawson schools board as

war broke, the cost might be the see total silence. i of the rest i'm doing you, but that is personally in the presence of the security council members. so she did not respond to the my press conference in new york after the end of the general assembly. last september, i stole the correspondence, guys you joined the list. maybe i'm not an investigative journalist. the journalist normally are interesting to get the tools and what you're seeing, which was played all over the media outlets condemning russia, is not the for any interest to any of them for the additions, un officials. and they'll even journalist. i asked them when they talked to them in september, please. as a professional,

that's professional. people try to get the names of those who, whose board is, was showing which know it's just like we don't have any answer to the question. what is the results of medical analysis or phonics and nobody who died recently of but who was treated in germany in the fall of 2 institutions when she fell. busy on the plane of the russian, the plan limber uh she was treated by the russian doctors and said be ready to them . the germans wanted to take you. we immediately allowed the plane to come. they took him in less than 24 hours. he was, he was in germany and then the germans continued to say that we boys and ship

and we asked them, can you? and they, and now that the analysis done. so the 2 of us boys 3 asked for the, for the test results to be given to us. they said no, we're given the organization on chemical weapons. we went to this of innovation. we all members and we said, can you show to us because this is our citizen. we're to the use of cutting boys and they said the germans told us not to give it to you because they found nothing in the civilian hospital. and the announcement that she was poisoned was, was made of to the she was 3 that the military hospital would dispatch with. so it seems that these, these secret is not going to how didn't of all the die.

well, she died in the silver ring the door in the russian, but she knew it during the as far as it was reported every now and then if you felt not, not to bill, which was another reason why we continue to ask the germans, can you show us the results of which you found because we did not find what they found and uh, what they did the human. i don't know what the germans did. oh, yeah, because they don't, they, they don't explain to anybody including us as well. maybe they explained to the americans. maybe this is, this is credible, but they never told us how they through the team, what they found and what, what methods they, they were using. how, how do you think he died? i am not a doctor, but for anybody to get sleeping for the doctors to try to guess. they need to have

information and the person was taken to germany to be treated off the he had been poisoned. the results of them all, that this can be secret. we still can not do. we still cannot get anything so credible on the faith of us 3, but instead of us could abundance use of his daughter of the information is not provided to us. she is listed as an she's always citizen and we have all the for folder rights from the convention. so we should be your case budget to, to get the information. what do you think some of the threats, but why do you think that force johnson, former permit issue of u. k, would have stopped the peace process and this is stumble on the behalf as he's doing well. i'm going to see him couple of times and i wouldn't be surprised if

if she was more to 8th advice i'm we mediates desire or by some long term strategy . she's not very predictable. but why? okay, do you think he was acting on behalf of the us government on behalf of the, by the ministration? who's doing this independently? i mean on a, i don't know. i don't know. and they wouldn't guess the fact that the, the near regions and the breeds are leading in this, in this quote unquote, a situation is, is openness. no, it is becoming also clear that there is a fatigue in some capitals and the adults every now and then that the americans would like to leave. it was the europeans and to

concentrate on something more important. so i wouldn't guess we would. we would be judging by specific specific steps. it's insult because though that but the nice ration would like to leave legacy at the trump would be especially as bad as, as they can. yes. and similar to the bama did to drum during his 1st over in late december 2016 uh, obama expelled russian. diplomats just literally december 120 person. so his family members did that on doris, do you mind them on leave? on the day when there was no direct flight from washington, so they had to move to new york by buses. was old, the luggage was children, and so on and so forth. and the same time obama now,

and so the rest of the blood magic propagation afresh. and this, we still never will able to come and see what, what is the state of the sum of this russian russian property. what was the property diplomatically they, they never allowed us to come and see the old convention, but just say that this, this piece has to be done. can see this being covered by diplomatic immunity, which is a unilateral decision that substantiated by any international. so you believe the body ministration is doing something similar again to the incoming trump administration causes because that is the is the expulsion then the seizure frequency certainly did not create the drum, missing the ground for beginning of our relations with the trump administration. so i think that during the se, but this time president trump was elected on the explicit promise to bring an end

to the warren ukraine. so, i mean, he said that in appearance after appearance show, given that there is hope for resolution, that sounds like what are the terms to which your degree on the terms. so i basically alluded to them when the president boynton spoke in this ministry on the fortunes of june. uh, she wants to gain the read the rate that the 3 war rages to negotiate on the basis of the principles. which will agreed in this bundle. us and rejected by boys joins. so not going to the statement though. they said the, you put it into the asian. the principal is, uh no none deluxe state or so feel free and we would be rated to

be part of the group of countries who would provide collective security guarantees . so no, no, no, no, they don't absolutely know me that 3 basis know mean to 30 me the 3 exercise us on the credit is so it will be as but dissipation of 4 and 4 in troops. and this is something which here in retail rate, but of course, she said it was april 20 to $20.00 to know sometime because the bus and the, the really just on the ground. what have to be taken into account and accept their religious on the ground are not only the lines of contact, but also the changes in the russian constitution left the rift here. and there was skilled in the, near the school a balanced republic sense. you have some ends up arrows, you regions. yes. and they are now part of the russian federation,

according to the constitution. and this is area to and of course we cannot, we cannot tolerate a deal. we should keep the legislation, which i will with the pressure between the russian language, russian media, the russian culture, the ukrainian orthodox church. because it is a violation of the obligations of ukraine on the, the, on shelter and somebody must be done about that. and the fact that the west, since the so, so for the legislature of the a legislative offensive stuff that into, into 70 and some of the rest are still at the silent and the silent until now of course we would have to pay attention to this in a very special way with dropping sanctions against russia be a condition uh,

you know, i would, i would say, uh, probably many people in the rush of a developer would like to make it a condition. but uh, the more we leave on the sanctions. and the more we understand that this better to rely on yourself and to develop mechanisms to develop blip forms for coal duration was normal. countries who are not unfriendly to you and know and don't mix economic interest. and the policy is, and especially politics. and we learn to lot of to the essential stuff, the central and stuff that's on the, on the obama. they continue. it's in the very big way on the system of trump. and this, essentially it's on the device, the administration absolutely. on president the but the what doesn't kill you make

makes you stronger, you know, and well, what else is driving stable been never us. so they're making us strong and driving, rushing east. and so the vision that i think saying policy makers in washington had 20 years ago, is why not bring rushed into a western block sort of is a balance against the rising east and it, but it doesn't seem like that. do you think that's still possible? uh, i don't think so. when see the reason slip which end was uh speaking good. uh well the club uh adult logistics and exports. uh, she said we would never be back at the situation of the 2022. that's when uh,

she realized push himself up there and not only she but she, she spoke publicly about this and that all attempts to be on equal terms with the west failed the stuff that's in the office of the mice of the soviet union. and there was you for a while now part of the a lead or a world, the democratic world in the few street. but very soon it was, it became clear to most of the russians. and that the, in the ninety's we were 3. that is, that the best of junior part may have been the zip box, but there's a place where we are on the west. can organize things like it's like it was a striking deals,

was oligarchs buying resources and assets. and then probably the americans decide that the rushes and the buckets, modesty also building the barges, laughing, joking. but even at the end of the hill, some storm, she stopped to contemplate, the, this was not something she wanted for us. and i think this was a very old, this one she pointed to put in prime minister and then the lift down there and the blessed fortune su successful for the election, some shortcomings which,

which in one but when fortune became president, she was very much both in the cold duration with the rest. and she mentions about this quite, quite regularly when she speaks this interview or so. that's some international international events i was present when she met is george bush junior. is obama? well, after the meeting of natal in bucharest, which was a company which was folded by natal rush and meeting some meetings in 2008 when they announced the georgia and ukraine will be nato. and then they tried to sell it . we asked why?

oh, there was lunch and put you on us. what was the reason for this good question? and they said, you know, this assumption which is not obligatory. how come? well, you know, to start the process of joining nato, your needs, their formal invitation. and this is a slow bill, ukraine, the judge you will be in need of. but this little room, you know, became up session for some people in the release. the 1st one second. she lost his senses and stuff to do what again she's own people. on the, the protection of boy, a c mission was the russian peacekeepers on the ground. and the fact that she launched this was consumed by the european union and investigation of originally launched. and we, she concluded that she gave me the,

all the stuff and for your brain is that took a bit longer when they will, calculating this pro western mode. well, for less than the basic to praise them. there's also not that what is bad is that you felt people either or 5 or you go was mean or you might and what happens before the vehicle in your trade in 2013 the, the president of your grade was a new steel no co niche negotiate that was the european union, some association that written and we should notify terrace on most of the opinion, goods to the european union and then the other way around. and that some point when she was meeting was we use the russian counterparts. or we told him,

you have all the way to ukraine, said was bought over the free trade area of the commonwealth of independent states, no theaters for every but. and we russia, negotiate that. the agreement to is the world trade organization. for some 50 and 17 years mostly because we were going to is europe in the union and we achieved some protection for many of our sectors, every couch of some others. and we explained to the ukrainians that if you go 0, in the upgrade was european union, we would have to protect our customs border was you was you great. otherwise,

the 0 there, if you're in good sort floods and would be searching, go industry so which we tried to protect and i'd read for some protection was suggested to the european union guys, ukraine is our common neighbor. you want to have a birth of the trade was ukraine. we want to say ukraine, want to have a markets most in europe and in the russia. why don't we see 3 of us and discuss with leg grownups. the shadow of the european council commission condition was the portuguese, but it was his name. then she responded, you know, it's not none of your business. what we do was you great. and then the, the president of your tree yellow cartridge, she convinced use experts and the experts said, yes, it would be not very good. you for, you have opened the board, the was,

is your doing the union, but the customs board, the was the rest show would be with the close and they would be checking, you know, of what, what this coming so that the, the russian luckett this not is not affected, and she in those in november, 2013 that so she can not sign the deal immediately and shoot off. they are in union to postpone that for next year until next year. that was the, the 3 year form. i have done the which was immediately yes, the throwing up and the and the by, by, by the cool. so my, my point is that this either or actually the 1st, the 1st cool took place in 2004. when left the 2nd around the elections, the same use the on the call, each one presidency,

the west race to fail and put the pressure on the constitutional good. so feel free to write the must be filled throat and the constitutional feel free says 2 rounds. and the constitutional court, under the pressure of the west, violate the constitution for the 1st time that and pro, less than candidate was chosen at the time when all this was taking place on mornings. the european leaders were publicly stating of grant and people of mazda site. they was us, always rushing this either or is, is still very much very money. it is the way that big countries behave. i mean, there are certain orbits and now it's bricks versus new us versus china. and it sounds like you were saying, the russian and chinese alliances permanent we're able to, well,

neighborhoods in the geography is very important. and you're also neighbors with questionnaire of role in effect, to sort of ukraine and the western europe wants to come to old borders. the, the, the

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