tv Cross Talk RT December 8, 2024 9:00pm-9:31pm EST
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the, the, the welcome to cross back bull homes were all things are considered on peter a little bit. john shocking doesn't even begin to describe, but the fall of damascus to a brand new terrorist with western support. and so quickly is a world historic event. the middle east has been funded, eventually we order the resistance as essentially collapse to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, george samuel, we in budapest, he's a pod cast where the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals and crime me and we cross demarcus level, but he is a moscow based international relations and security analyst. right, julian cross that rules and effect,
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that means he can jump any time you want and i always appreciate it. let's start out with mark and cry. me a line my introduction and i don't think it was hyper bully and to be honest, my friend, i don't even know where to begin. go ahead of the syrian government as baldwin. uh it, uh, the syrian president, bashar assad, has already left the country to an undisclosed location his family left earlier in the week. the syrian prime minister has stated that he will stay in damascus to hand over power to the new authority steward to anyone and chosen by the people. and in this case, the new authorities are the terrorist organization, hyatt to hear, all shop which even the united states recognizes is all going to is, is al qaeda re branded right. giovano louis or i'll guided you bought the l news
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for hyatt there. all shop there might be a few other in durations in between the leader of hyatt to hear all shaw al juliani . he's now going under a different name. i understand, but he was fairly the deputy of isis. now he is the leader of all kinda, this is the uh, terrorist organization. uh, that has been camped out in northern id lube. uh, for the last, uh, 4 or 5 years. uh, since a, the deal was reached between russia, iran and the turkish government. uh that had back and continues to back out guy now hired to hear all shop and um, so there's plenty of blame to go around, of course, but i certainly, i think
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a great deal of the blame has to be placed on the kremlin and the government any ron for being so naive to think that they could trust early one. i think there's a co jump charge you and i've talked about this. so the, a span of a process was a front dance. they, there was a, i mean, even you got me throw out the door, right? so if it looks like and then i think, as we've discussed many times before, well, this is what happens when you don't finish a war. and i think that was a uh, the cardinal sin in 201620. 172018. as of the war was not finished. and so therefore, the illusion. i almost like the potemkin village government of bus or other side was just that it was a potemkin, a village government. he wasn't in control of his country. i mean, he went around, you know, he was actually invited back in, am i, in the, in the arab league states. but he wasn't in control of his country and the board.
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and when we know of what happens with the west west, you know, when they're in unity, they don't get everything that they wanted. they gonna keep planning, planning and planning to strike back. and what has to admit, this is a huge victory for the united states, united states and bullets of satellite stage that the glad bus on the left side must go outside most go. they kept repeating it and it been going on, repeating it over the years. and now is gone and, and they, they, they accomplish this with really a minimal effort. you know, they really, they've barely broke a swear. and so they have to look at it and say, hey, this is a huge setback for russia and the wrong. and we know when the west now gonna smoke, there they go now sees the advantage and push further. well the, the israel's taking the advantage already and expanding its a my area of control around the go live. and so 6 hours in they've been change the
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geopolitical map market. how did this happen? where the, where these people drive the or can they can pull traded? i mean, i would, and just before the program started having just reminiscing majority resolves to the day that we were talking about the liberation of a, a level in 2006. go ahead. but yeah, so when, when george says that, uh, bush charl side wasn't in control of his own country. that's, that's not exaggeration. hyperbole, it's literal, right? the us and it's curtis prox, these have been in control of all of these syria, east of the euphrates. right? uh, 4 or 4 years now, right. uh, you know, going back to the, the, just after the time of the russian intervention. right. and that is where syria's oil and weak fields were, which were denied to the syrian government preventing any type of economic recovery . uh or restoration um the uh hired to her all
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shop along with the purchase down as lama party and the other 31 flavors of unintelligible jihad were still in control of northern england. the turkish regime of early one. we're in control of all of northern syria to a depth of up to 30 kilometers where they continued to support the rest of the as long as then jihad, the faction. and the primarily syrian wines that had been molded into what had once been known as, as the free syrian army. now they called the, the syrian national army and they had 282800000 as long as the g. hardy's under arms effectively under are the ones payroll. so between the us sanctions and, you know, serious resources under control of the u. s. the searing government was followed out if the economy was, was in shambles. the, you know, the people were,
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were living, you know, hand to mouth. and so this created the social and economic conditions where the, there has obviously been a huge infiltration a coal option of the syrian military government. various klan syrian klan. so to that, that, you know, i support the syrian government. this, this was done incredibly sorely and apparently went under the noses of not only syrian intelligence, but russian intelligence and iranian intelligence as well. the syrian military was bribed, bought black mailed into simply standing down, and then there's a history for the. so if you take a look at what happened and i rack in 2003, there was very little fighting. most of the iraqi government, the rocky military, was bought off. the same thing happened in libya at the end in triple 8,
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where the commanders for the defense of the city, just to a down there, troops and, and let it at this happened on a massive scale edmore. when you get it, we could use a bagdad and we can use triple a here, george. i mean it doesn't. and then that's not a very good road record of seeing the future. i mean, they did the thing at a stance the way they ran into and live they. these weren't jeffersonian democrats . ok, but it all to west media. guitar, a media. these are a d i g hodges, apparently. i mean, i think everyone's going to be have a really rude awakening. aside wasn't very rarely anybody's favorite, but he was better than the alternative. well, george, we have the alternative. go ahead. is the question how we definitely need to know, vice versa was clearly the protector of the the minority is
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a serious certainly is really to use a very diverse country. very, very different. people are different from religious affiliations. there and these people are not going to tolerate any kind of religious diversity. i mean, we know this sort of trip in the rec or wherever they've taken power. so that's go on the, but the minorities i think was thought fleeing be no time for them to, they're already doing it to the christians. they all of the ancient of christian communities then gone. um, well, you know, the one kind of, you know, let's take a shot and try to win has now, is it the europeans been demanding the aside the most go will now be in and they did with the mass migration, the nice punishment. so there for this, you paid it to, but there's that was no question that there has been the striking thing about this offensive is there's been no fighting. i mean, that was visit, there's nothing, i mean, so even in afghanistan and um, prior to the, the collapse uh,
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in the couple, even in the south vietnam in 1975, even in libya, 2011. there was some fighting, taylor was nothing. it was just one city after another, essentially just opened itself up to the so called rebels. and so therefore, this is a really shocking and shameful surrender. remember, as the a sub family had run this country for more of a 50 years, and then this is the city. it wasn't once a serious country. well there was once they a kind of the pillar of the resistance within the middle lease. i mean, it was a, it was, once you know, those are the, the plans to create a join said with egypt, egypt and syria to inform the join state. you, you like that arrow republic. sir. it was a part of the arab coalition in like you 671973. it's due to the 19 ages when the arrow of globalization kind of moved against egypt. that's just gone. and it's the end is just a shocking, the full and we're obviously we're going to find out the,
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you know, in the coming days how this happened. why russia, any around, essentially a band and what, what was the circumstance for their abandoning the serial like this? go ahead. mark jumping. yeah, they didn't. um, so, i mean, there actually were plenty of signs this was about to happen, right? the syrian observatory for human rights, already more than a month ago, put out a notice that the um, the syrian, the opposition in id label. you know, that hired to hear all john, i'll call you to was preparing a major offensive on the syrian government. i'll just 0 reported in the middle of november. the same thing that there was about to be a huge defensive in the syrian government appeared paralyzed, but the russians were not paralyzed. in the middle of october, they began very heavy error strikes in england, followed up by very expensive drones strikes. so russia was doing what they call it, with their much smaller, military footprint,
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largely air power. they have been acting since the middle of october at what they obviously saw coming. i don't think they understood the scale or the scale of the co option, the, the, uh, buying out of the syrian army. but they were using their air force to a very significant degree to mark or the last few months. did you throw in the treachery of air to one? yeah, i, i, i mean, oh no one is, i mean, view as a involved in this, right. you know that obviously they organize this, the c i a i my 6 and my side had to do this co option a israel was involved and they, they, you know, the incursion into lab and on health draw has the law out of syria down to the border so there's a lot of timing here, but ultimately 97 percent of this is are to want. this is only one in a peak. he didn't get what he wanted. he wanted a, some type of, of
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a fishy ation of his control. over the fact though, control over northern syria agreed to by damascus, damascus refused the assad refuse to give it to him. i think, correctly. i'll mark on the block. we got to go to a hard break, and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on the situation in syria statements are to the way the 10 states us yet just getting on the internet man, but of some of the things that got those up on yes, because the shows and you much the number you just didn't from the magic you know whatever the missed on this meeting goes to the store. yeah. probably sheila or
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are you sure you to check? do you know that i do? i'm going to do, i want to let them eat to let me in the clips can we can also just justin mcgill. i'm the mother to release the nap now either give me that or then load into so much little ocean mother, his teacher is going to be moved to bowie and then sit on the split them huge companies with those testing or st. mary's who's opinions, privilege. shapiro. the sudden age of the the boy lived in georgia with no way most eating, cuz the ultimate for chrome sac boulevard is where all things are considered on peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing syria, george,
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the 1st generation of this proxy war that we covered quite extensively on this program there was always looked at and it came from western think tanks about the partition of syria. we're going to see about find they come into play. um or the americans are going or the americans going to stay in syria. and we'll, uh, the new government in syria essentially take, take some parts of, uh, let me know. and i mean, we could see a change of the map here quite dramatically. you know, i, i think it's very likely as a president electronic has to put out to tweets. i'm suggesting that it is nothing in it for the united states that there's, uh, you know, uh, a band but you know, we have to stay out. but as we've known before from trump, you know what he says and what he does. a 2 very different things. i don't believe one moment that the united states has got to stay out and just simply say, hey,
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well, that's it. we're done. we're going to let the, you know, the, the ok, that's a global will lead to enter the line to take over. that's just not the way the united states operate. and besides, i think the united states will use this opportunity to get to grips with the problem of iran once and for all, this is a good guy because the article pituitary, you know, it's been being a 45 years. so that's the downfall of, of the pile of and dennis the united states has not forgotten that that's been, you know, it's been a annoying, annoying at that washington for all these years. so they are going to apply serious pressure against the wrong. um and uh, so i think there's okay, so they're gonna use the, the forces within a syria to apply that pressure. and i think the next thing that is going to happen busy is around because israel is going to look like we are the big windows and all of this, we dealt with the, the issue of his box. we crushed as follow. we did all sorts of things, no one sold that we could dance or do we assess the way the and that is,
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there are not a dog barked. and you know, essentially with now the serial gone the whole, the around because ball a link is broken. so here's the thing, you know, as well as really go, how does he, how he can survive? what does the israel do well is with go for the next part of the reorganizing number, the lease, and next the west bank board. next, at least the give us a southern settlements on the west bank that goes, who's going to stop us a walk in mark, i mean thing, and i suppose it's only a matter of time in what i say time may be days of a reasoning change in 11 on it's right for picking right now, but i can at this point i can see how as block can survive, not even in the medium term. so within 1st we have love it on and then the, the, the great prize iran is george's pointed out go ahead mark. yeah, i don't know if libby don't, 11 on. we'll be all right. take it over for all intents and purposes,
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the government, the perfect. yeah. the lebanese government already is a popular government, but certainly has blog will be neutralized, will be excised from politics. obviously, i mean, has, blogs is, is probably living uh, you know, uh, on the clock now. they're there, supply lines to iran are caught and uh, you know, they're facing uh, a guy in solemn fist jihad is syria now, immediately on their board. or, you know, not only george will, i mean, will the us, it's not a question of staying out there already. there they already occupy east syria, and the footprint will already go. i mean, it seems almost the 4th no, during this. but over the last few days, i iraqi popular mobilization unit ship popular mobilization units. back by you ron, were pouring into syria to try to stem the g audi tide. they had been are instrumental originally in the feeding isis,
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united rack. and even the us admitted that at the time. but the us air force a tens and reaper drones worst raising these popular mobilization units as they tried to come to the help of the syrian government affectively providing air cover . uh for our kite and i use the all the important thing here is the white washing of all of this and the webs during media o gilani, the deputy advice is the leader of al qaeda. going still on the f. b, i's wanted list with a $10000000.00 bounty on his name. the telegraph called him the most very friendly jing hardy's right. he's being painted as some kind of che guevara, george washington vigor. this is absolutely vile. by the western main stream media, when there is the white squash rain man, he trimmed his beard and put on
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a suit to george. that's it. that was the make over. that's right. so now we've got the, then what, what the view on the gold g, b t q. uh, rights is, uh, yeah, this, this is the, the mainstream media i have outdone themselves in the absolutely disgraceful whitewash angle. those, you know, the was specimens of a if you man and say, um, but then you have to go back to, you know, the extraordinary hostility from the beginning to a saw human giving it. and therefore they are, from the beginning. they was supporting the jihad is everything. and when you, i mean dislike all of the, of the material that's on youtube and you know, going over the internet of this forensics of boot, throat, sledging and brutal torture and everything else. the west, the mean is still when only the story of oh if only we could get rid of a sub, everything would be fine. so that we get created out of the the media are doing
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these together rejoicing over this a vindication. but that's really the point. this is a vindication for the west. the west is going to take advantage of this. think of a see this as an opportunity to uh, you know, push forward within the middle east. doesn't mean that is going to be successful, but they will now push forward. and as i say, i think clearly that is the next step is, i mean, israel in the west bank and i and i, and i think a day, and i think america is going to increase uh its footprints and will try to get whatever you can out of the situation is serious and then the level of environment, huge deal political loss for rush, right? i can't see how they're going to maintain their, their military base is on the low talkie a coast line, unless some type of deal is cut with 31 to create some type of lot talkie a state, but russia is going to lose part us. and her mind means, so this is a huge geo political blow to russia losing their influence in the middle east. iran,
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the whole access of resistance is face ling unraveling. at this point, it's amazing how knocking down a hollowed out and rotten syria like this. and in such a shocking way as rewritten, the g, all politics of the middle east. the other big winner of course of this other than is real as turkey. right. the neo ottoman empire is in full blown. right. um uh oh my god, daughter was tweet was uh on social media earlier on one and put in a loss. that's it, right. there was a time when in the 1st phase of the syrian civil war, when, when early one came to moscow and that, that austin off framework deal was initially agreed on. or the one was kept waiting in the kremlin, in a room full of paintings of russian defeats of the ottoman empire. he didn't forget,
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right? the sole con, right, the ottoman empire has struck back in a completely, an incredible se, but undeniable way. russia and iran, they're still really from this they, they still, you know, don't even have any effective response until, as of we speak, the russian media has still been denying the turkey is involved in this at all. right? because they're, the ones been bouncing around saying, i have nothing to do with it. while he's smiling and encouraging the march on damascus. and russian media has been appall is, is just been completely, you know, going along with this really sickening pretense. and george, all the while in the genocide in gaza continues unabated. and but what wester, so say is it, this is a cost of making re,
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re making the middle east. they think they have found an excuse for, for even the most the atrocious crime of genocide because this is all because, you know, they, they knew we have to change the way to do it kind of way through christ called the birth pangs of democracy and all of this because apparently it's, this is very democratic, at least according to western media, which really amazing. george's, it is really media actually tells the truth about these people. so the british media, american media, want to say this is, you know, like a, thomas jefferson with a car wash, the call joe call kind of woke up kind of the low the, that, that's exactly right. then you wouldn't say that would be in terms of these uh, geo political uh repercussions. they'll be able to go back a little bit further and, you know, go back to october. the 7th. what, when the how last launched that the attack, which seemed very, very bizarre, even though at the time given we knew how the circumstances that would unfold. uh,
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that showed up the middle east and then i thought it was going to live. was this a series of events that that was brought forward and now the, we for one cause and the access of resistance is no more. and i think the wrong, which analyses itself in the cross has a really, doesn't i really haven't any allies. it's allies in the middle is a, these various, some of forces that were on the so i'm kind of, you know, you're right in the control of supervision or whatever, then they're gone. they don't have any real real force anymore. russia is very preoccupied with its own issues. so if, if i was either in the wrong, i would now be thinking about, well, i need to make peace with the united states because the united states is going to call out you, they going to really put a serious pressure on you. and without any allies to come through, it'll be around so it says up and get run. we'll have to accommodate yourself to the trump administration or but we have just a minute left mark or there is another alternative is that the trump said under
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different circumstances, finish the job. well, maybe finish the job. now is a military conflict with the room and by the time he becomes president, the entire map of the middle east has been redone. your thoughts go ahead one minute. yeah, i read that you rod is, is definitely in, in the cross areas is george said that's absolutely true. trump is already indicated that he wanted to choke iran, you know, into regime change with sanctions. now with the success of this with this, you know, it's essentially hybrid warfare infiltration of a. ronnie and society by my side has already happened to a very significant degree. they act with impunity with terrorism and assassinations with any ron. so it's very possible that this could, you know, the could be extended into iran, which has a very weak president with possess can right now who i usually came in the office, you know, wanting to improve relations with the west. and the access of resistance had already been growing very angry with tehran for their lack of action. and
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now did the actions of resistance is facing the dissolution on the on that? no, it's depressing. no gentlemen, but i want to thank my guess and try me. and, and booted us and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our tc and next time. remember across uncles the in the year of 1954, the united states of america engaged in warfare against the people of vietnam. the
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white house supported the corrupt i've been governments of southern vietnam. in 1965 americans began their invasion following the aim to defeat the forces of vietnamese patriots. the pentagon was confident that the victory would be on the american side, due to its military superiority. however, the vietnamese turned this war into a total hill for the occupants. unable to cope with the guerrillas, the american army started blanket bombing alongside using chemical weapons and naples, which burned to all alive the village of my lay, where he 1969 american soldiers killed 504 civilians, including $210.00 children, became a tragic symbol of this war, all and all, during the whole period of this conflict, the usa dropped on via more than $6000000.00 tons of bonds, which is 2 and
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a half times as much as on germany during the 2nd world war. in 1973, the american army under the pressure of the rebels, withdrew from vietnam, and only 2 years later did the puppet regime inside on fall. however, the vietnamese paid a high price for their freedom. more than 1000000 vietnamese people became the victims of american aggressors. the on the
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chest, to go down to the okay. and let me know what's gonna be going on there. you can only put that are right. yeah. and you can woke up with this cuz i can use that as and we come with the before him, we started a deal for you. okay, now justin mcgill and because of the lease k e by nath, neither given that all of them look doesn't understand the steps of getting the net could you, you can split premium, which is next no pony. the customer has bought them for the 3rd 2nd, 24. cool. why discontinue dozens of your tooth language feature? films are released every year for a film production. the republic rank stood in russia behind only bosco and some fetus. but even though only about a 1000000 people live there at the field when a waltz and switch to the claim. so what is the magic of your code cinema mine you the measurements the.
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