set, i mean a whole destiny. how do i, how does that happen to this? this is the 1st time even when they were, even when they made no show of who they were, and they all put it on a show. now, even then you had cnn visiting egypt and speaking to the leaders of these jobs. so easy if suddenly nothing new. they got a lot of flag for it last time, but in the press you will now see that referred to as ripples. this is an organization to the united states and just confirmed. yeah, these are the terrace. these are people who would get you to have a if actuation with suicide bowman. and we, we, were he lucky all, honestly, we with that in the level in the final days of the battle when the same group, we started to break into the city. we were about a 2 bases away from a suicide, a vehicle bode suicide bomber, who extremely vote down and 5 story apartment building. we would as shelves, rain down, we're trying to get away. and you know what the syrian soldiers that then told us.

you better get asked us, they'll just execute you, they'll make a show up. and these people have just come to bath and they are now in control of cities with me and of christians of if this, the minorities, various installation fees that they don't like. there is, i believe, i hope i am a rob, but there's nothing good that is going to come of this. and that's all for me now. stay with our team to national for all the latest, somewhere around the world. my colleague ro associated will be with you at the top of the light on the the

welcome to cross back full homes were all things were considered on peter lebow. the germ shocking doesn't even begin to describe but the fall of damascus to a brand new terrorist with western support and so quickly is a world historic event. the middle east has been fundamentally reordered the resistance as essentially co ops to discuss these issues and more. i'm joined by my guess, george samuel, we in budapest, he's a pod cast where the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals and crimea. we cross deluxe level, but he is a moscow based international relations and security analyst, originally in cross stock roles. and in fact, that means you can jump any time you want, and i always appreciated, but start out with mark and crimea. i lied my introduction and i don't think it was hike personally. and to be honest, my friend, i don't even know where to begin. go ahead. the syrian government as baldwin. uh it,

uh, the story and president bush are all assad, has already left the country to an undisclosed location. his family left earlier in the week. the syrian prime minister has stated that he will stay in damascus to hand over power to the new authority steward to anyone and chosen by the people. and in this case, the new authorities are the terrorist organization, hyatt to hear, all shop which even the united states recognizes is all going to is, is al qaeda re branded right. giovano louis or i'll guided you bought the l news for hyatt there. all shop there might be a few other in durations in between the leader of hyatt to hear all shaw al juliani . he's now going under a different name. i understand, but he was fairly the deputy of 86. now he is the

leader of all kinda, this is the uh, terrorist organization. uh that has been camped out in northern id live. uh for the last, uh, 4 or 5 years. uh, since a, the deal was reached between russia, iran and the turkish government. uh that had back and continues to back out guy now hired to here. all shop. and um, so i, there's plenty of blame to go around, of course, but i certainly, i think a great deal of the blame has to be placed on the kremlin. and the government, any ron for being so naive to think that they could trust early one i'm it is a co jump charge you and i've talked about this. so the, a span of

a process was a front. there's they, there was a, i mean, an event and you got me throw out the door, but it looks like another thing, as we've discussed many times before. well, this is what happens when you don't finish a war. and i think that was the, the cardinal saying in 201620172018 as of the war was not finished. and so therefore, the illusion. i almost like the potemkin village government of bus or other side was just that it was a potemkin, a village government. he wasn't in control of his country. i mean, he went around, you know, he was actually invited back in my late getting the arrow bleed states, but he wasn't in control of his country and the board. and when we know of what happens with the west, the west, you know, when they're in unity, they don't get everything that they wanted. they gonna keep planning, planning and planning to strike back. and one has to admit, this is

a huge victory for the united states, united states and bullets of satellite stage that the glad bus on the left side must go outside most go. they kept repeating it and it been going on, repeating it over the years. and now go and, and they, they, they accomplish this with really a minimal effort. you know, they really, they've barely broke a swear. and so they have to look at it and say, hey, this is a huge setback for russia and the wrong. and we know where the west now going to smoke. there they go now sees the advantage and push further into israel's taking the advantage already and expanding its a my area of control around the go live. and so 6 hours in they've been change the geopolitical map market. how did this happen? where the, where these people drive the are they getting frustrated? i mean, i wouldn't just before the program started having just reminiscing majority resolves to the day that we were talking about the liberation of a,

a level in 2006. go ahead. but yeah, so when, when george says that, uh, bush charl side wasn't in control of his own country. that's, that's not exaggeration. hyperbole, it's literal, right? the u. s. a and it's curtis prox, these have been in control of all of these syria, east of the u. fridays, right? uh, for 4 years now. right. uh, you know, going back to the, the, uh, just after the time of the russian intervention. right. and that is where syria's oil and weak fields were, which were denied to the syrian government, preventing any type of economic recovery uh, or restoration um the uh, hired to her all shop along with the purchase down as law mich party and the other 31 flavors of untouchable jihad were still in control of northern id lip. the

turkish regime of early one. we're in control of all of northern syria to a depth of up to 30 kilometers where they continued to support the rest of the as long as then g. audi faction and the primarily syrian wines that had been molded into what had once been known as, as the free syrian army. now they called the, the syrian national army and they had an 82800000. as long as the g. r e's under arms effectively under are the ones payroll. so between the us sanctions and, you know, serious resources under control of the u. s. the steering government was followed out if the economy was, was in shambles. the, you know, the people were, were living, you know, hand to mouth. and so this created the social and economic conditions where the, there has obviously been a huge infiltration

a coal option of the syrian military government. various klan syrian klan. so to that, that, you know, i support the syrian government. this, this was done incredibly sorely and apparently went under the noses of not only syrian intelligence, but russian intelligence and iranian intelligence as well. the syrian military was bribed, bought black mailed into simply standing down, and then there's a history for that. so if you take a look at what happened in iraq in 2003, there was very little fighting. most of the iraqi government, the iraqi military was bought off. the same thing happened in libya at the end in triple 8, where the commanders for the defense of the city, just down there, troops and, and let it in. this happened on a massive scale edmore. would it be going to be a good it we could use

a bagdad and we can use triple 8 here, george. i mean it doesn't. and then that's not a very good road record of seeing the future. i mean, things in the, in the stance the way they ran into it and live they, these weren't jeffersonian democrats. ok, but it all to west media, guitar, a media, these are a d, e i g hard is apparently, i mean, i think everyone's going to be have a really rude awakening. aside wasn't very rarely anybody's favorite, but he was better than the alternative. well, george, we have the alternative. go ahead. little question of how we definitely do that. yeah, sure, eliza was clearly the protector of the the minority is a serious certainly is really to use a very diverse country, but it's a very different people are different religious affiliations there. and these people are not going to tolerate any kind of religious diversity. i mean, we know this sort of to the wreck or wherever they've taken power. so that's go on

the but the minorities i think was thought fleeing be no time for them to. they're already doing it to the christians. they all of the ancient of christian communities then gone. well, you know, the one kind of, you know, just to go shot and try to win has now, is it the europeans been demanding the outside the most go will now be in and they did with the mass migration is nice, but punishment. so there for this, you paid it to, but there's that was no question that there has been the striking thing about this offensive is there's been no fighting. i mean, that was visit, there's nothing, i mean it's like even in afghanistan and, um, prior to the, the collapse uh, in the couple, even in the south vietnam in 1975, even in libya, 2011. there was some fighting killer. was nothing. it was just one city after another, essentially just opened itself up to the so called rebels. and so therefore,

this is a really shocking and shameful surrender. remember, as the a sod family had run this country for more than 50 years, and then this is the city. it wasn't once a serious country. well, there was once they a kind of the pillar of the resistance within the middle east. i mean, it was a, it was, once you know, those are the plans to create a join said with egypt, egypt and syria actually formed a joint state. you live to that are republic, sir. it was a part of the arrow of coalition in like you 671973 the 1980 is when the arrow go. elation going to move the games to the agent that's just gone. and it's the end is just a shocking, the full and we're obviously we're going to find out the, you know, in the coming day is how this happened. why russia any around? essentially a band and what, what was the circumstance? well, there abandoning the serial like this. go ahead. mark jumping. yeah, they didn't. um, so, i mean, there actually were plenty of signs. this was about to happen, right?

the syrian observatory for human rights, already more than a month ago, put out a notice that the um, the syrian, the opposition in id label. you know, that hired to hear all show him, all kiddo was preparing a major offensive on the syrian government. i'll just 0 reported in the middle of november. the same thing that there was about to be a huge defensive in the syrian government appeared paralyzed, but the russians were not paralyzed. in the middle of october, they began very heavy error strikes in england, followed up by very expensive drones strikes. so russia was doing what they call it, with their much smaller, military footprint, largely air power. they have been acting since the middle of october at what they obviously saw coming. i don't think they understood the scale or the scale of the co option, the, the, uh,

buying out of the syrian army. but they were using their air force to a very significant degree to mark or the last few months. did you throw in the treachery of air to one? yeah, i, i, i mean, oh no one is, i mean, view as a involved in this, right. you know that obviously they organize this, the c i a i, my 6 and my side had to do this co option a israel was involved in the, the, you know, the incursion into lebanon, helped draw, has the law out of syria down to the border. so there's a lot of timing here, but ultimately 97 percent of this is are the one. this is only one in a peak. he didn't get what he wanted. he wanted a, some type of, of a fishy ation of his control. or the fact though control over northern syria agreed to by damascus, damascus refused the assad refuse to give it to him. i think correctly. mark,

i never thought we got to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on the situation in syria statements are to the, during world war 2, the germans with the help of the ship. the creation revolutionary movement that the independent state of croatia transported hundreds of people have no way to work in force, labor camps. the germans wanted the work force to build roads and the infrastructure in norway. so when they couldn't get enough prisoners from serbia, they contacted those special and the install of these camps to you had the death rate up to 82 percent each which is actually higher done in the old suite. among them, with dozens of children, voice did the george a boy, but not the clear below. go to the coast to this in the woods, the type, the owner's school that'd be good to to this is such a goodness,

such as the 3 that they had, the horrible conditions except from the t lease. many people died from surveys, a hunger as diseases, very few made it back home. well, let's just move it to the of that magic grove, enable 9 mozy. but at yale and that both of us, and this is what i mean, i'm unable to get off the the wall domestic cross. that goal of lines were all things you considered on peter level to mind. you were discussing syria, george, the 1st generation of this proxy war that we covered quite extensively on this program. but there was always looked at any, came from western think tanks about the partition of syria. are we going to see that finally come into play? um or the americans are going and the americans going to stay in syria and we'll,

uh, the new government in syria essentially take take some parts of uh, let me know. and i mean, we could see a change of the map here quite dramatically. you know, i, i think it's very likely as a president, the electronic has put out to tweets. i'm suggesting that it is nothing in it for the united states that there's, uh, you know, uh, a band but you know, we have to stay out. but as we've known before from trump, you know what he says and what he does. a 2 very different things. i don't believe one moment that the united states has got to stay out and just simply say, hey, well, that's it. we're done. we're going to let the, you know, the, the ok, that's a global will lead to enter the line to take over. that's just not the way the united states operate. and besides, i think the united states will use this opportunity to get to grips with the problem of iran once and for all, this is

a good guy because already called pituitary, you know, it is been, been a 45 years. so that's the downfall of, of the plot. and dennis the united states has not forgotten that that's been, you know, it's been a annoying, annoying at that washington for all these years. so they are going to apply serious pressure against the wrong. um and uh, so i think there's okay, so they're going to use the, the forces within a syria to apply that pressure. and i think the next thing that is going to happen busy is around because israel is going to the quick. we have other big windows and all of this, we dealt with the issue of his box. we crushed his bottle. we did all sorts of things. no one sold that we could dance or do we assassinate the? and that is, there are not a dog barked, and you know, essentially with now the serial gone the whole, the around his ball a link is broken. so here's the thing, you know, as well as really go to how does he, how he can survive? what does the israel do well is will go for the next part of the reorganizing

number, the lease, and next the west bank board for the next of these, the give us a southern settlements on the west bank that goes who's going to stop us as well can mark, i mean thing i'm, i suppose it's only a matter of time and when i say time may be days of a reasoning change and 11 on it's right for picking right now. but i can, at this point, i can see how as the law can survive, not even in the medium term. so within 1st we have left it on and then the, the, the great prize iran is george's pointed out go ahead mark. yeah. um, i don't know if libby don't, 11 on, we'll be all right. take it over for all intents and purposes, the government, the perfect. yeah. the lebanese government already is a popular government, but certainly has blog will be neutralized, will be excised from politics. obviously, i mean has, blogs, is, is probably living uh, you know, uh, on the clock now. they're there, supply lines to iran are caught and uh, you know, they're facing uh,

a guy in solemn fist jihad is syria now, immediately on their board. or, you know, not only george will, i mean, will the us, it's not a question of staying out there already. there they already occupy east syria, and the footprint will already go. i mean, it seems almost the 4th no, during this. but over the last few days, i iraqi popular mobilization unit ship popular mobilization units. back by you ron, were pouring into syria to try to stem the g audi tide. they had been are instrumental originally in the feeding ices? you know, i rack and even the us admitted that at the time. but the us air force a tens and reaper drones worst raising these popular mobilization units as they tried to come to the help of the syrian government, effectively providing air cover. uh for our kite and i use the all the important

thing here is the white washing of all of this and the webs during media o gilani, the deputy advice is the leader of al qaeda. going still on the f. b, i's wanted list with a $10000000.00 bounty on his name. the telegraph called him the most very friendly jean holidays. right? he's been painted as some kind of che guevara, george washington vigor. this is absolutely vile. by the western main stream media, when there is the white squash with rain man, he trimmed his beard and put on a suit to george. and that's it. that was the make over. that's fine. so now we've got the, the what, what, the view on gold g, b t q writes is of, yeah, this, this is the, the main stream media of have outdone themselves in the absolutely disgraceful

whitewash angle those, you know, the was specimens of a if you manage it but then you have to go back to, you know, the extraordinary hostility from the beginning to a saw human giving it and therefore they are, from the beginning. they was supporting the jihad is everything. and when you, i mean this, like all of the, of the material that's on youtube and, you know, going over the internet of this forensics loop throat sledging and brutal torture and everything else. the west, the mean is still when only the story of oh, if only we could get rid of a sub, everything would be fine. so that we get created out of the the media are doing these together rejoicing over this a vindication. but that's really the point. this is a vindication for the west. the west is going to take advantage of this. think of a, see this as an opportunity to uh, you know, push forward within the middle east. doesn't mean it's going to be successful,

but they will now push forward. and as i say, i've been clearly of this. the next step is, i mean, israel in the west bank and i and i, and i think a day and i think america is going to increase is footprints and will try to get whatever you can out of the situation is serious. and then the level of environment, huge deal, political loss for rush, right? i can't see how they're going to maintain their, their military base is on the low talk coast line. unless some type of deal is cut with 31 to create some type of lot talkie a state, but russia is going to lose part us. and her mind means, so this is a huge geo political blow to rush all losing their influence in the middle east. iran, the whole access of resistance is face ling unraveling. at this point, it's amazing how knocking down a hollowed out and rotten syria like this and such as shocking way as rewritten. the g. all politics of the middle east. the other big winner of course of this

other than is real as turkey. right. the neo ottoman empire is in full bloom. right . um, uh, the daughter was tweet was uh, on social media irving on one and put in a loss. that's it, right? there was a time when in the 1st phase of the syrian civil war, when, when early one came to moscow and that, that austin off framework deal was initially agreed on. or the one was kept waiting in the kremlin, in a room full of paintings of russian defeats of the ottoman empire. he didn't forget, right. the salt on right, the ottoman empire has struck back in a completely incredible se, but i mean, deniable way, russia and iran, they're still really, from this. they, they still, you know,

don't even have any affective response until, as of we speak, the russian media has still been denying the turkey is involved in this at all. right? because they're, the ones been bouncing around saying, i have nothing to do with it. while he's smiling and encouraging the march on damascus and russian media has been appall is it's just been completely, you know, going along with this really sickening pretense. and george all the while in the genocide in gaza continues unabated. and, but what wester, so say is it, this is a cost of making re, re making the middle east. they think they have found an excuse for, for even the most, the atrocious crime of genocide. this is all because, you know, they, they knew we have to change the way to do it kind of way through the price of the birth pangs of democracy and all of this. because apparently it's the says, you mean, you know, very democratic, at least according to western media,

which really amazing. george's, it is really media actually tells the truth about these people. so the british media, american media, want to say this is, you know, like a, thomas jefferson with the car wash, the call joe call kind of woke up kind of the low the that's exactly right. then you wouldn't say that would be in terms of these uh, geo political uh repercussions. we have to go back a little bit further and, you know, go back to october. the 7th. what, when the, how about us launched that the attack, which seems very, very bizarre, even though at the time given we knew how the circumstances that would unfold. uh, that showed up the middle age. and then i thought it was gonna be, was this a series of events that, that was brought forward? and now the, we for one cause and the access of resistance is no more. and i think the wrong, which analyses itself in the cross has a really, doesn't really have any allies. its allies in the middle is a, these various,

some of forces that were on the so i'm kind of, you know, you're right in the control of supervision or whatever them back on. they don't have any real real force anymore. russia is very preoccupied with its own issues. so if, if i was either in the wrong, i would now be thinking about, well, i need to make peace with the united states because the united states is going to college you. they going to really put a serious pressure on you and without any allies though to come to it runs us up and get run. we'll have to accommodate yourself to the trump administration, and we have just a minute left mark or there is another alternative is that the trump said that under different circumstances, finish the job. well, maybe finish the job. now is a military conflict with the round, and by the time he becomes president, the entire map of the middle east has been redone. your thoughts go ahead one minute. yeah, i read that you, rod is, is definitely in, in the cross areas this. george said, that's absolutely true. trump is already indicated that he wanted to choke iran,

you know, into regime change with sanctions. now, with the success of this with this, you know, it is essentially hybrid warfare infiltration of a. ronnie and society by my side has already happened to a very significant degree. they act with impunity with terrorism and assassinations with any ron. so it's very possible that this could, you know, the could be extended into iran, which has a very weak president with possess key and right now who not usually came in the office, you know, wanting to improve relations with the west. and the access of resistance had already been growing very angry with tehran for their lack of action. and now did the access to of resistance is facing the dissolution on the on that? no, it's depressing. no gentlemen, but i want to thank my guess and try me. and in budapest and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our to see you next time.

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veto, scott starts the journey, the, the, you ready to come along? the 1st i have live here on out to you to national life from last scope a day off, the serial falls and empty streets across damascus. there was a new reality sets in and as, while the terrorists promised the people their circle freedom while they immediately locked down the public with a few kind as on the reins in serious israel. and the us seized the opportunity to palm and essentially occupied parts of the country. the new militant leadership offering 0 pushed back to the occupying force as well. positive correspondence already reached dissemination since opposed to president bush. our left side is now here in moscow having taken up a solid with his family. that is