tv Cross Talk RT December 10, 2024 8:00pm-8:31pm EST
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because that's an answer, there's a video of the the hello and welcome to cross stock. we're all things are considered time. peter lavelle, a terror state is in the making in the center of the middle east and it's by design indeed. i saw it is gone, but so we, syria forest became change. has brought about speak failure and we all know the obvious winners and losers, the cross sucking siri. i'm joined by my guess mohammed mirandi until then he was
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a professor at the university of the around in bay route. we have left out of the home. she is editor in chief of men and uncensored and in brussels. we crossed to a light minute or 2 is a veteran war correspondent and political analysts, or in cross socrates and effect. that means you can jump any time you want, and i always appreciate it. well, how many? let me go to you 1st and put on my introduction. i hope i didn't verge on of hyperbole, but we have as a terrorist state being recognized by the west in its infancy. and as a result, we have a failed state. the civil war is back on. go ahead mohammed. yes, this dirty war has ultimately or fruits and the united states has been able to, along with mr. add on and met in, yahoo has been able to create a country controlled by. okay to we have to remember that giovanni was a deputy of have
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a back fact id be headed isis, when he was a stomach say to be rock. he was in charge of syria under the name of the most up front. and he was the head of out by the, in syria until that in a public relations act. he separated from al qaeda in the presence of our senior, all kinds of figures. and they were nodding their heads. yes he's, he's no longer with us. so the united states has a past succeeded in, and now we're seeing the devastation we're seeing. those riley is destroyed the infrastructure of the military infrastructure of the country. the security infrastructure was seeing the looting of the central bank were seeing they, they were, they were saying that the syrian government kills people. murderous people, takes people to prison. and i'm sure the syrian government was not a wonderful government, but uh,
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they are not killing people on the streets. they're gunning down people in hospitals. they are accumulating people in public or hanging people. and they're also allowing the country to fall apart. and as they is, riley is advance on damascus. they are doing nothing, no way. i mean it's, it's quite curious. we have western governments cheering on the change of power. so as mohammed is kind of pointed out, they don't like to go into detail about who these people are. i call them terrorists because that's what the us government calls them. and that's where the leader of this group, who they, they, they call them a territory. it's a 10000000 dollar bounty on his head, but they don't use such a how can you explain that the us is real and turkey are continuing to bomb a country that has had received change? how. how does that make any sense? go ahead and be route as well. actually, it makes a lot of sense. if you look at that, some of this is perspective. you don't want the student army to continue to have
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minutes or care, but it is. but at any point, when these are most of those, there's sections on the goals and start to start and go forward, be up and try to the barbie country between themselves. we have, i says, that's why the hand us to ask you how much to us, i'm gonna go based on the most and brotherhood and the p k k. when they start fighting among each other and each one wants to as part. you don't want the c a r means to have it's cart capabilities found the air force. it has to be able to defend one of them, at least. so this is what we saw. that is rate is to embark the infrastructure for the see the army to also prevent it from the building. and so for the next few years, which means you would have explained the very weak state. next you would that be part of the, among all of the 1st groups and nobody can sort of them for becky, it wants to create its own buffers on much like this really is 2 bucks from the side of a cdm. it wants to create the buffer zone, but the next more that we have multiple of the talk to share what you quoted me
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with your basis and live and in other areas, including other for they have to enter the ministry wise and they want to in the mean needs or stop the stuff that they consider, which is basically the curves, the dk k. if you could get on the people i'm fixing the base of they are also attracting basically another courses of their medicaid infrastructure as well. they, you just described my introduction, elijah, let me go to you in brussels. i mean, given what our to guess of already said, there is no syrian sovereignty here, there is no syrian government. i mean, there may be a new poppet government in damascus, but it's not governing. it's certainly not governing the country and, and, and to make things worse the, these outside powers, as i mentioned to us israel and turkey, want to make sure that there is no input structure for a state that used to be called syria. go ahead and brussels as well. they did not only destroy the infrastructure, there is nothing that serious can defend itself with today. these roommates are not, it's 300. but the syrians stored in the 48 hours
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destroying everything that syria had because he refused to manufacture weapons and money factor. besides the in long range, the medium ratings and days quite advanced, and they stick knology. and we have seen the is really destroying everything. and the americans talking about observing the new syrians need is if they respect international roles, why his right is annexing moultrie and dave leach at 25 kilometers. source device is today. so we, we see that the is really is advancing and we don't know where they are going to stop. what are the ultimate plan that we know? one thing that's here yet can nor know that defend itself and just standard 3 alpha bravo. 81 can take it be so see it today. the only way that that is only for
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entire domestic and in finding use. so that encouraging the syrians to, to keep the only what that they can find among them said. and we also have seen how the 17 groups that form the new really good shape. they have not thinking calling to really. and they are not expected to leave the country altogether under why leadership. and we have seen instruction given g and the behavior that is completed for so we don't expect any stability in syria. okay, i'm going to go back to mohamed into then. i'll, i'll to this program i, we're missing the words, democracy of freedom tolerance. i thought that's what the syrian revolution was all about, but we haven't heard it on this program yet. will we go ahead mohammed? you know there's, there's nothing linked to democracy. uh,
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throughout this whole, uh, 31, not that democracy was the facade from the very beginning. the wes call that all these terrace freedom fighters before people knew what isis actually was. they called them freedom fire fighters and they weren't telling them that this was kind of and you to guess made some very important points. um, sir, the syrian army of much of the equipment that was destroyed has nothing to do with the needs of this ready, the machine. this here now for us, is not capable of confronting bears, right? the air force. there are elements within the syrian armed forces that would be dangerous to, to this riley, we seem like it miss ald capability, but they destroyed the air force, not because it was a threat to israel, but for 2 reasons. one as uh,
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was previously correctly pointed out so that no one can control syrian so that no the central government cannot use their. ready for us to bomb rabbits. but also i think this was a stupid move by nothing yahoo because nothing. yahoo! for his own selfish interest, he's is bombing all these positions and syria and all of this infrastructure to tell his riley's design is set up. look, i'm a powerful, i've defeated my enemies. that is a smart move, i suppose among designs. but what he has done is that he's exposed to the, the re, the new regime in damascus. they are not going to do anything about it is exactly, they are not going to confront. there's really rashid ad on who was sorry, a barking nonsense about palestine for years is now that now that he is
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a border with is ralph. he is not going to do anything about it. he is after it as pointed out correctly. he is after this buffer zone, his interest in the north, perhaps expanding the his a, his ottoman realm of influence and even further. but he's not going to do anything for the policy and people and actually what you know, the americans and editing yahoo did was in on, sadly, made delta severe blow to the resistance. and turned a defeat for this re the regime. because in order for the is really we seem to declare victory, the other side has to be defeated. but they've turned to re defeats that there was a way the resume which has been delayed due to months and which has fail to capture territory. and the north is fail to vanquish how mazda and the south, and as long as the job, they've turned that into
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a victory for this very risky. okay, um i'm, we're about to go to the break and i don't want to cut off my next guess. i'll ask you a follow up question, mom at this go loudly, who does the answer to? so that's, that's a very good question. but to i've been key answers to a host of different people. i think he answers to the, to add the alarm. he answers to western intelligence agencies. obviously, his interview with cnn shows a very strong relationship with a political establishment in the united states. cnn tried very hard to whitewash his crimes and to make him look like a, a moderate and even his clothes looks like the clothes with the landscape. it's a, it is the r squared powerful western elements in what he's doing. yeah, it's in the oh, yeah, i know, i notice the zalinski garb and he trimmed his beard, but i doubt his ideas of change. i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on serious stay with our to
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the take a fresh look around his life. kaleidoscopic isn't just a shifted reality distortion, by how us to do vision with no real opinions. fixtures designed to simplify will confuse who really wants a better wills, and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented as 1st? can you see through their illusion going underground can the, the gym and so just deal with the, with the one with taking the picture. they were proud of the muscle by the way,
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go to the persian congress and now we have not been support. you've called for what has been happening here. it will open the ponder as box the next thing. it will be them both then also have to pay the the welcome ex, across stock were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle to mind you were discussing syria. the ok, let's go back to layla in be what i'm going to be a little facetious here. so take it on board here. so the mantra was the sod has to go, well he's gone. so does that mean the sanctions come to an end?
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does that mean the illegal occupation of american troops? the interior that's going to end? because as odds gone, the precondition has been met. you can take it from there. well, i heard of the americans are going to be because we heard by the saying recently the t's is going to get the, the troops in the us with us basics of a very complicated and that's what's in the interior to make sure that the basically there's no, uh, what you caught on explosion of the situation. at the end of the day, the whole thing was done for the americans to have the 3 bases in the region. much like the russians have in syria and to control the resources for the students to see what kind of the benefits from, for example, it's andrew. some of the other things. however, the way, because it's, i mean, at the end of the day i, you know, but just don't want to see that it's going to go into a blood bus as professor 91 said the correctly. so it's going to be a civil war. they are going to start them on each other. there's nobody who is
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going to sink, attend the middle and see the because we haven't agreed on a certain person. and, oh, i show it a, i have to assume because the u. s. wants to maintain it, maintain had gemini in the region. one ideal way of doing that would be actually setting up a curtis state. now that would mix up the works really seriously chaos on steroids, but i think they may do it. what are your thoughts? i don't think so because they've tried to in iraq and a few years ago and they did not support an independent state in krista. so having to be at p k. k version the syrian version of that b k. k. establishing what is called the. ready uh, it's not going to happen now because the iraqis and the at that would not accept good state. all the boulders and give you the wrong will not accept that . so it is not something that can happen. and america is not interested in
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leaving the area. establishing mistake means there is no point for them to stay in syria. however, they want to stay because that's the, he's really not send the security and they want to keep control of syria and the private from it's a food basket and it's energy. this is why they all the bags from the b, like all the more so that create a fictitious state called curtis than the americans are there to protect that. i see your point here. mohammed where does your around stand and all of this because they are a, there's a lot of glee, full talk in western capitals where, you know, it ran as separate as strategic to feed. so we can go on and on. of course, i do not go into the zip pick description that i, what kind of relationship that a ran had with syria. not necessarily with mr. a saw it here. how is it around looking at it and how is it looking forward?
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because it's got a mess on, it's on its borders in a, in a very, very big way. and there's also an intended headache, obviously created against the round go ahead mohammed. hey, ron obviously never wanted isis, and i will try to, to roll over syria. and that's exactly why you run got involved from the very beginning, if you recall iran or has the law or the other as they didn't get involved in syria until 2013, 2 years after this all started and only after tens of thousands of foreign fighters that old had been brought into syria already. it was then that they got involved. so for a ron, this is a tragedy, and it is a major setback to say the least. however, while in the short run, it is a major setback. but in the long run, i think that the actually the science that are going to lose the most are countries
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like turkey, countries in the region, countries like saudi arabia. jordan, this is going to cause instability because now these groups, they are due for it. they are drunk in their victory and they want to expand. and if giovanni does not accept to move forward for greater conquests, then he will be targeted himself. yes. some of these extremes are far worse than the likes of. giovanni and the economic burden for turkey is also going to be huge either turkey is going to have to put in or i todd is going to have to put in a lot of money for a very long period of time. or the situation is going to get worse as it is getting worse. and this is going to cause animosity friction to say the least, but also is going to be a security problem for turkey and an economic burden for the country. lately i saw
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you nodding your head as a professor. mirandi was speaking, why were you doing that? go ahead at the end of this month because i had an interview earlier this morning, but then i have it. and i almost said the same thing and i agree with him with every on every single board, the kids. so remember when you are, you have for those 2 shared law borders with the country that's going to turn into another movie already. you know, that's the same value that we have for seeing for syria at the moment. because we have seen this as the optical play happened before, especially when you have at the national affairs pushing the b service on the ground. it is bound to have smoke. agents will automatically cause enough of the customer and they said, well, it's a trip before this. go to other countries and basically you talk to, of course the agenda over there again. and then you have most of the most and brotherhood the most and brotherhoods on the side wanted to take over. they were supposed to got the game over here. they want to stick over the board and syria, but not only syria. they've had the demonstrations and the joint of jordan,
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so we don't expect the most and brother with being drunk going forward. we'll also try to make a move and jordan the suicide bombers. but we still back in 2011, 20122013. they wouldn't go back to 30. and then you're going to have that expect that agent. remember also just running up on the, to the level of the agent that's like going forward. he's going to go supposedly to dress and that means we're going to have it region of a situation, but i don't agents, it's not just on himself. and if you refuse us as a professor, randy said he wouldn't be a target himself. eliza, it's been mentioned here, what happened in libya with the over through of the conduct fee regime. and that is part of the historical record and it is being still played out to this day. we all know that precedent. was it intentional to do the same exact thing in syria? is that the intention chaos go ahead a produce? i did. the bowman, i mean, is too heavy to judge because we had to be
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a few days in 11 days. everything happened in syria, everything changed. and now suddenly we have the american stopping the possibility of lifting the sanctions as long as you log into it all know, contesting what these writer is doing. and they know, imagining this right, the enemy is only iran has black. therefore, for the moment we see d as a nato countries, as the main claire is he going to continue in control of the situation? is he going to control what the job, based of different groups? he has many moves that beat on and find out played. bob good kids are quickly. is he going to be able to make sure to direct everybody the 17 groups in whatever you want this to happen to judge? because what we have seen in the, the max execution is different from what we have seen in damascus or in other
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christian in other wide area. so it's very confused to get the image updates this area and c a. and we haven't seen again the end of these really destruction and syria and drugs, and so your entire tree. so all that is very clear at the moment. what is this going to be another? libya it is going to be divided syria where these yeah, this was thought. so i think that we done to the real skin from the beginning when that way of form as a jump. i didn't know so that as bob sinuses that then you want to tie down and then remain the same for you, but under different names. and suddenly they say, now they all model, right? we haven't seen that. we haven't seen them the same. so the mother is in edits since 2019 it's behaving any different from the the uh,
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setup fees. are these for you? be a, be a. so i don't think this is something is very clear now to say it is going to be like maybe a always going to the bottom. yeah. but maybe, but maybe the only difference is that the factions fighting in syria will be very well funded. ok mohammed is, i'd like to, i'd like to finish the program on, on gaza at the, the, the genocide continues there. and we can't forget what's going on there. this is what the israelis want and as line as will say this was all worth it because of the victories they've had experience and it against has belie now syria. but the genocide can say it continues go ahead as well as i do believe that this really is had a victory over hezbollah, although they ship has beloved, very hard. but the fact that has been law under very difficult circumstances was able to hold their territory. and to prevent them from taking southern lebanon, and i think that was a victory. the defeat is here, and that of course,
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effects has blown up too, but you're absolutely correct. uh, this is mary tragic, not only for the people of casa who been forgotten, and we have to remember that miss as yvonne has been, has been transporting baku oil cheap package overall to israel for the last 14 months. he continues to have relations, political relations, intelligence senior intelligence officers go back and forth between the 2. so he is, he's, he's very much responsible for people forgetting because of what we shouldn't, we all have. and when we look at this, and we won't forget and on that note all i can say to my wonderful gas to be continued, i want to thank my guest in brussels, a route, and until around. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at ortiz. so you next time, remember prospect, the, the,
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