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hello and welcome to cross stock where all things are considered and peter level a terrorist state is in the making in the center of the middle east. and it's by design indeed. i saw it is gone, but so we syria for screen change has brought about speak failure. and we all know the obvious winners and losers, the cross talking siri, i'm joined by my guess mohammed mirandi, until then he was a professor at the university of the around in bay route. we have layla hot at home . she is editor in chief of men and uncensored and in brussels. we crossed to a life man, yet he is a veteran war correspondent and political analysts or in cross side girls in effect, that means you can jump any time you want, and i always appreciated. well, how many let me go to you 1st and put on my introduction. i hope i didn't bird job of hyperbole, but we have as
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a terrorist state being recognized by the west in its infancy. and as a result, we have a failed state. the civil war is back on. go ahead mohammed. yes, this dirty war has ultimately, or, or fruits and the united states has been able to, along with mr. add on and met in, yahoo has been able to create a country controlled by. okay to we have to remember that giovanni was a deputy of have a back fact id be headed isis, when it was the stomach say to be rock. he was in charge of syria under the name of the most up front. and he was the head of out by the, in syria until that in a public relations act. he separated from al qaeda in the presence of our senior, all kinds of figures. and they were nodding their heads. yes he's,
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he's no longer with us. so the united states has a past succeeded in, and now we're seeing the devastation we're seeing. those riley is destroyed the infrastructure of the military infrastructure of the country. the security infrastructure was seeing the looting of the central bank were saying they, they were, they were saying that the syrian government kills people. murder as people takes people to prison. and i'm sure the syrian government was not a wonderful government, but uh, they are not killing people on the streets. they're gunning down people in hospitals. and they are accumulating people in public, they're hanging people. and they're also allowing the country to fall apart. and as these riley is advance on the mass, cuz they're doing nothing, no way. i mean it's, it's quite curious. we have western governments cheering on the change of power. so as mohammed is kind of pointed out,
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they don't like to go into detail about who these people are. i call them terrors because that's what the us government calls them. and that's where the leader of this group, who they, they, they call them intentionally. it's a 10000000 dollar bounty on his head, but they don't use such a how can you explain that the us is real and turkey are continuing to bomb a country that has had regime change? how. how does that make any sense? go ahead and be route as well. actually, it makes a lot of sense. if you look at that, some of this is perspective. you don't want the student army to continue to have minutes or capabilities. but at any point, when these are mazda, those, those sections on the goals, and start start, think over our drop and try to depart the country between themselves. we have, by since that's one, had to se, ask you how much the us, i'm gonna go based on the most and brotherhood and the dk k, when they start fighting among each other and each one once as part. you don't want the c a r means to have it's cart capabilities, spend the air force it has to be able to, that's what one of them,
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at least. so this is what we saw. that is rate is due by the infrastructure for the see the army to also prevented from the building. and so for the next few years, which means you would have stayed the same week stay next year with us divided among all of the service groups. and nobody can stop them for becky. it wants to create this offers on much like this really is 2 bucks from the side of a cdn and it wants to create the buffer zone. but the next more that we have multiple of that. so to share what you coordinated through bases and loop and in other areas including other for they have the enter the military wise. and they want to eliminate or stop the threat that they consider, which is basically the kurtz, the dk k. if you could get on to the next thing that they so they are also talking vis you another courses other minutes. it's a search as well they you just described my introduction, elijah, let me go to you in brussels. i mean, given what our to guess of already said, there is no syrian sovereignty here, there is no syrian government. i mean,
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there may be a new poppet government in damascus, but it's not governing. it's certainly not governing the country and, and, and to make things worse the, these outside powers, as i mentioned to us israel and turkey, want to make sure that there is no input structure for a state that used to be called syria. go ahead and brussels as well. they did not only destroy the infrastructure, there is nothing that serious can defend itself with today. these roommates are not, it's $300.00 a task on syrian stored in the 48 hours destroying everything that syria had. because he refused to manufacture weapons and money factor. besides long range and medium ratings and there's quite a lot of violence and they stick knology. and we have seen the use really destroying everything and the americans talking about observing the news here in
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need is if they respect international roles, why his right is annexing moultrie and dave leach at 25 kilometers sauce device is today. so we are, we see that the 3 areas are advancing and we don't know where they are going to stop. what are the ultimate plan that we know one thing that is here yet can nor no but defend itself. and just standard 3. all right? anyone can take it be so see it today. the only way that that is only for the entire domestic and in finding use. so that encouraging the syrians to, to keep the over the weapons that they can find among them said. and we also have seen how the 17 groups that form the new really good shape. they have not thinking calling to really. and they are not expected to leave the country altogether under
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why leadership. and we have seen instruction giving in the behavior that is completely different. so we don't expect instability in syria. okay, i'm going to go back to mohamed into them all through this program. i. we're missing the words, democracy of freedom tolerance. i thought that's what the syrian revolution was all about, but we haven't heard it on this program yet. will we go ahead mohammed? you know, there's, there's a missing link to democracy. uh, throughout this so uh, 31, not that democracy was the facade from the very beginning. the wes called it all these parents freedom fighters before people knew what is this actually was they called them freedom fire fighters and they weren't telling them that this was tied up and you're to guess made some very important points sir. the syrian army
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of much of the equipment that was destroyed has nothing to do with the needs of this writing machine. this here now for us, is not capable of confronting this, right. the air force. there are elements within the syrian armed forces that would be dangerous to, to this riley, we seem like miss ald capability, but they destroyed the air force, not because it was a threat to israel, but for 2 reasons. one as uh, was previously correctly pointed out. so that no one can control syrian so that no the central government cannot use the air force to bomb rabbits. but also, i think this was a stupid move by nothing. yeah. because nothing yahoo, for his own selfish interest, he's, he's bombing all these positions and syria and all of this infrastructure to tell
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cause riley's design is set up. look, i'm a powerful, i've defeated my enemies. that is a smart move, i suppose, among designs. but what he has done is that he's exposed to the, the rate the new regime in damascus. they are not going to do anything. and hobby is exactly. they are not going to confront. there's really machine and they're gone . who was sorry, a barking nonsense about palestine for years is now that now that he is a border with is ralph, he is not going to do anything about it. he is after it as pointed out correctly. he is after this buffer zone, his interest and the north, perhaps expanding the, his a, his ottoman realm of influence and even further. but he's not going to do anything for the policy and people, and actually what, you know,
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the americans and editing. yeah. who did was it and sadly they delta severe blow to the resistance. yep. and turned a defeat for this rather regime because in order for the israeli, we seem to declare victory. the other side has to be defeated, but they've turned to re defeats that there was the right of the regime which has been delayed due to months, and which has fail to capture territory in the north. it has failed to vanquish how mazda and the south, and as long as the job, they've turned that into a victory for this ready wishing. okay, um i'm, we're about to go to the break and i don't want to cut off my desk, so i'll ask you a follow up question, mom and there's a go livelihood. is the answer to that's, that's a very good question. but to i've been key answers to a host of different people. i think he answers to the, to as the alarm, he answers to western intelligence agencies. obviously, his interview with cnn shows
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a very strong relationship with the political establishment in the united states. cnn tried very hard to whitewash his crimes and to make him look like a, a moderate and even his close looks like the closer to the landscape. and it's a, it is the r squared powerful western elements in what he's doing. yeah, i said the oh, yeah, i know. i notice is a lensky garb and he trimmed his beard, but i doubt his ideas of change. i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on serious stay with our to the the,
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the, [000:00:00;00] the this is no better places to be, is a village in the sun. those beautiful features is purely anarchist in the sense that there are no authorities within the city. everyone is their own citizen . half the people are here because then the rest to go and the other half here because they loved the taste and has nowhere else. they rather be than here, but i always are going to explain, you just have to experience labs. and by doing that,
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you have to live here the dish and i have right here in lagrange. this is one of the dining halls. it was a mess all for you know, soldiers, food place, you know, several 100 people have passed through here either under way, somewhere else or provide safe space to abuse women and to elderly people. to mention the people who addicts to children. you know, some of cardboard checks, you know, but cardboard shack and broke up fee. if you just been sleeping under one of the
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basic rules isn't sylvia and it keeps ground. you'll find out the the welcome back to across stock where all the things are considered non peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing syria, the ok. let's go back to layla and be what i'm going to be a little facetious here. so take it on board here. so the mantra was, the sod has to go, well he's gone. so does that mean the sanctions come to an end? does that mean the illegal occupation of the of american troops? the interior that's going down because as odds gone,
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the precondition has been met. you can take it from there. well, i heard it, the americans are going to be because we heard by the saying recently that he's the he's going to get the troops in the us with us basically for the vehicle to keep the troops in the interior to make sure that the basically there's no, what you call an explosion of the situation. at the end of the day, the whole thing was done for the americans to have the 3 bases in the region. much like the russians have in syria and to control the resources for the students will see what kind of the benefits from. for example, it's, andrew says, the other things, however, the way, because it's, i mean the, the end of the day, i, you know, but just don't want to see that it's going to go on to a blood bus. as professor mandy had said the correctly. so it's going to be a civil war. they are going to start them on each other. there's nobody who is going to think attendance. they don't see it here because they haven't agreed on a certain person. and i show it a,
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i have to assume because the u. s. wants to maintain it, maintain had gemini in the region. one ideal way of doing that would be actually setting up a curtis state. now that would mix up the works really seriously chaos on steroids . but i think they may do it. what are your thoughts? i don't think so because they've tried to any rockstead a few years ago. and they did not support an independent state in christmas time. so having to be at p k. k value. and that's assuming that the p k k, establishing what is called the role is uh, is not going to happen now because the iraqis and the at that would not accept god, stayed on the boulders and giving the wrong will not accept that. so it is not something that can happen, and america is not interested in leaving the area. stop pushing. mistake means
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there is no point for them to stay in syria. however, they want to stay because that says the, he's really not send the security and they want to keep control of syria and the private from it's a food basket and it's energy. this is why they all the right from the b. like all the more so that create a fictitious state called curtis, that in the americans are there to protect that. i see your point here, mohammed um, where does your ram stand and all of this because they are a, there's a lot of glee, full talk in western capitals where, you know, it ran as separate as strategic to feed. so we can go on and on, of course i do not go into the zip pick description that uh, what kind of relationship that um a ran had with syria. not necessarily with mr aside here. how is it around looking at it? and how is it looking forward because it's got a mess on it's on its borders in a, in a very, very big way. and there's also an intended headache,
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obviously created against the round go ahead mohammed. hey, ron obviously never wanted isis. and i look by the to rule over syria, and that's exactly why you run got involved from the very beginning. if you recall iran or has the law or the other as they didn't get involved in syria until 2013, 2 years after this all started and only after tens of thousands of foreign fighters that old had been brought into syria already. it was then that they got involved. so for iran, this is a tragedy, and it is a major setback to say the least. however, while in the short run, it is a major setback. but in the long run, i think that the actually the size that are going to lose the most are countries like turkey, countries in the region, countries like saudi arabia. jordan,
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this is going to cause instability because now these groups, they are due for it. they are drunk in their victory and they want to expand. and if to align e does not accept to move forward for greater conquests, then he will be targeted himself. yes. some of the 6 treatments are far worse than the likes of. giovanni and the economic burden for turkey is also going to be huge. either turkey is going to have to put in, or that is going to have to put in a lot of money for a very long period of time. or the situation is going to get worse as it is getting worse. and this is going to cause animosity friction to say the least, but also is going to be a security problem for turkey and an economic burden for the country. lately, i saw you nodding your head as a professor. mirandi was speaking, why were you doing that?
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go ahead the smart because i had an interview earlier this morning, but then i have it and i almost said the same thing and i agree with him with every on every single board that he said, remember when you are, you have orders, you should law orders with the country that's going to turn into another maybe already, you know, that's missing all you got to be a for seeing for syria at the moment. because we have seen this as the obstacles they have been before, especially when you have at the national affairs pushing the service on the ground . it is bound to have smoke. agents will automatically cause enough of the system and they said, well, it's a trip before this. go to other countries. and basically you try to enforce that agenda over there again. and then you have most of the most and brotherhoods, the most and brotherhood on the side wanted to take over the game over here. they want to stick over the forward in syria, but not only syria. they've had the demonstrations and jordan jordan, so we do expect the most and brother with being drunk going forward. we'll also try to make a move and jordan,
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the suicide bombers that we still back in 201120122013. they wouldn't go back to 13 and then you're going to have that expect that agent remember also just running up on the so that's in the end, the agent that's like going forward. he's going to go supposedly to dress. and bethany is, we're going to have it region of if it's the ration by don't agents, if not, you're learning himself. and if you're, if you're just as a professor, randy said he wouldn't be a target to tell. yeah, eliza, it's been mentioned here. what happened in libya with the over through the conduct fee regime and that is part of the historical record and it is being still played out to this day. we all know that precedent, was it intentional to do the same exact thing in syria? is that the intention chaos go ahead the produce? i did that to them and i managed to add it to jets because we had it done the last few days in 11 days. everything happened in syria,
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everything changed. and now suddenly we have the americans talking about possibly read your lifting the sanctions as long as you need those on the contest team. what is right is doing and they know imagining these right then it means only one that has black. therefore, for the moment we see d as a nato countries, as the main claire is he going to continue in control of the situation? is he going to control what they do? have a list of different groups. he has many looked at the dogs and find out played bob good kids are ready. is he going to be able to make sure to direct everybody to 17 groups in whatever you want. this is to add to the judge because what we have seen in that. yeah, the max execution is different from what we have seen in devices or in other christian and otherwise everywhere. so it's too vague,
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confused to get the image updates this area and c a. and we haven't seen again the end of these really destruction in syria and advance and so your entire tree. so all that is of a play at the moment. is this going to be another? libya it is going to be divided syria, where does yeah, the switched off. i think that we've done to the real skin from the very beginning when that way of form as a jump. i didn't know so that just bottles, ices that then you want to tie them and then remain the same for you but under different names. and suddenly they say, now they all model, right? we haven't seen that. we haven't seen them the same. so the mother is in it, is since 2019 behaving any different from yeah, the uh, setup fees. are these for free? be a yeah. so i don't think this is something very clear now to say it is going to be
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likely be a always going to yeah, bob. yeah. but maybe maybe the only difference is with the factions fighting and syria will be very well funded. ok, mohammed was, i'd like to, i'd like to finish the program on, on god's a, they couldn't the, the genocide continues there. and we can't forget what's going on there. this is what the israelis want. and as, as line as will say, this was all worth it because of the victories they've had experiencing it against has belie now syria, but they did the genocide can sit and continue and go ahead. i don't believe that this really is had a victory over hezbollah. although they say it has beloved, very hard, but the fact that has been law under very difficult circumstances was able to hold their territory and to prevent them from taking southern lebanon. and i think that was a victory. the defeat is here, and that of course effects has, will not to but to your you're absolutely correct. uh, this is mary tragic, not only for the people of casa who been forgotten,
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and we have to remember that miss as yvonne has been, has been transporting baku oil chief polco l to israel for the last 14 months, he continues to have relations political relations intelligence senior intelligence officers go back and forth between the 2. so he is, he's, he's very much responsible for people forgetting cause of what we shouldn't we all have. and when we look at and we won't forget and on that note all i can say to my wonderful gas to be continued. i want to thank my guest in russell's b route and until around. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at ortiz and see you next time. remember, across the of
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the look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given it by human beings, except we have such orders at conflict with the 1st law show alignment of the patient. we should be very careful about our personal intelligence, and the point obviously, is to create a trust rather than to the area. i mean, with the artificial intelligence we have summoning the theme and the robot must protect his phone, existence was on the take a fresh look around his life. kaleidoscopic isn't just
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a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real live indians. fixtures designed to simplify will confuse who really wants a better wills, and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented as 1st? can you see through their illusions, going underground? can a terrorist state is in the making in the center of the middle east, and in spite design indeed, i saw it is gone, but so we syria for screen change has brought about speak failure. and we all know the obvious winners and losers for decades of to gaining independence and from the form of the ivory coast, remained under the strong influence of its foam and metropolitan pro french president, phoenix, who said one year ruled the country for 33 years,
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ensuring the interest to from the dead, the gun on deed isn't in the trunk. then there's no simple new foster larry shifting backwards was dumb as who saw him a little more appropriate after the death of, of a one year. a new lead to long come back. the ball came to power reset and i'm ready to double open, for example, to have curious why that. who knows where people across the who is it isn't good enough for tiffany to one is the one that passes into the bronze demetrius the dean . good luck, boeing. enemy, a deep political crisis is huge. walk a, the country 2nd largest city, turned into a theatre of last year from 130 to the other 2 on the road. as of what this how did the dramatic events unfold and how is walk a recovering from?
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he is a bloody conflict. watch on uh see the, [000:00:00;00] the metal yet had a deep chat. there should be no doubt for this happened didn't seriously pro a cubic joint american inside his paws. we have evidence a wrong same frame lead up pulls down because we're veiling the western from then syria claiming is the us on this road behind the removal of punishment. all of us not clearing the way is we missed a minute, tends to take her, but they're not the,

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