just highlights acquire reason for setting in motion the russian military operation in 2022. meanwhile, the alliances top officials have confessed accession isn't a done deal from our nato chief in stoughton. virg has said multiple times. the conflict with russia is an obstacle to admitting ukraine. and that is a long term perspective. what is that? what is the issue now is to ensure that you claim to be assessed on an inbound independence nation and therefore needs as a force to ukraine. weiss at the long timeline to bring in ukraine. you've talked about a 10 year window. why is it 10 years versus maybe one or 2 or 3 years since they're facing war? well, no one knows. so they expect to 10 years both about but it's almost as it is a very serious issue to bring in ukraine because your credit is not a country out or you can, has been attacked by a blood rush. all. so the most important thing we, we should do is to step up our support to create and to ensure that you can provide as a precondition for an and future membership for your plan. and well joe biden is lame

. that government is funneling another $500000000.00 of us military aid and dekalb . donald trump's advisors have presented the president elect with 3 peace plans for the conflict, and all of them exclude ukraine becoming a natal member any time soon along with the territorial concessions we spoke, to finish news editor in a split connect, who says the west is only interested in grabbing the leftover pieces of ukraine a wish to the starting day. apart from that we'll create a new territory and we will see that to bring as it has been doing since 2014, it's collapsing, small, smaller and smaller pieces. and as we see now, so in these documents, which was done in the, in the european union by the need to countries that everybody wants the piece of it just makes gradient the post to die. they are, they are blasting the concrete for some very, uh,

different kind of a patient bushing. no very strongly actually from the way of doing the ball was to bunch of great, but sweet seems like that they are literally creating dom, berkeley. they, they be, they want to rush it to destroy the modern grain as we know it today. but but in the same done, they are more than willing to rebuild it, but with their all terms. all right, well that is going to do for me for now, but just stay with us. my colleague union a neil will be in next in about half an hour with mornings, the the

hello and welcome to cross stock where all things are considered. i am peter lavelle for all intents and purposes, syria now ceases to be a sovereign state. it is in the process of being partition. a new international proxy war has been ignited in the region with no terrace and power. when states disappear. so do people the cross, 2nd serial and joined by my guess, stanley cohen in new york. he is a human rights lawyer also in new york. if a chief cross out, he is a former advisor to the middle east peace and boy, and a political strategist. and in lake jackson, we cross who daniel mcadams. he's the executive director of the wrong paul institute for peace and prosperity. gentlemen,

cross sack roles and the fact that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate, daniel, i'd like to go to you 1st because i need your help in understanding what's going on in syria because, you know, i been, i'm in the news business, it's my job to follow what people are saying. and i'm coming across these kind of strange narratives, like, for instance, the 1st one, syria has been liberated by brave freedom fighters. okay. it's one narrative. but all long sighted israel obviously needs to invade syria because the country has been invaded by dangerous terrace. i don't see how those 2 can coincide, and then there's a 3rd one. you will terrorists are not able terrorist anymore. they are actually are friends and willing to work with the west. do you have your favorite narrative or do you have another one for me? well, here's another one for you. israel was israel was somehow able to bomb the hell out of syria, knocking out every legal tank and gun without killing a civilian union, cause it can't bomb a single factory without the bombing of 10 hospitals and killing a 100. you know,

individuals, so somehow there's a, there must be better targeting answer isn't, there isn't gaza or 11 on. but the of the whole thing is a far as we saw it about a week before the take over, we saw the sea and intuitively assuming its role as an adjunct of the c. i, a and white washing and blow drying. these terrorists even hold up an invalid and turn them into wonderful freedom fighters, giving them a shape regard, good bar jacket and a uh, fidel castro, a beard, and boom, you're off to the races. here we go and not someone else to cheer a new flag to raise a new flag to wave. and the american congress, of course, is screening for sections to be lifted and more money to be sent. it's really quite amazing stanley because you know, this program which i've, we've been following the, the proxy war, the dirty proxy war and syria from the very beginning and 2011 and will, is on this program and the guests that have been been here. we've always worried about the black flag being flown over the mask as that is the case right now. but

the, the, the iron is that are waiving the cologne, the british colonial flag for syria. so yeah, another layer of absurdity here. is that the choice? i mean there's out the west is chosen to side with terrace over and authoritarian regime, which of course that's what a solid was go ahead. sadly. well, israel's notion of the, from, from the river to see is increasingly the, the hudson river and of the elastic ocean of the united states is the difference between freedom fighter and terrorist and the global norris. and in the west is who went on this from day one has been part of the orchestrated effort by israel, the top of syria. it's top 11 on a to destroy completely eradicate of palestine and young. and there's just part of a grand effort that goes back and look, i'm not going to minimize the rights as participants in the ard spring, 20 years ago, or 18 years ago. whatever. there were lots of young women is mad and stood up and

said, we're not gonna, we're not going to bend over to western proxies anymore. yet, over the years, the west of proxies have just said, you know, let's just take it ourselves. and now we have the grand example of israel, the united states, the west stepping up and say, syria, you don't exist anymore, you're now part of the greater is really a buyer and is really name of saving. people will drop 60700000 pounds of bond is correct. it's much more targeted because the purpose is different. garza wants that they, they wish to levels are completely destroyed and syria, they wish to just take control up. and along with the blessing of job, i'm in united states. what you see on folding in front of us isn't making a mistake about is, is, is the screen has been removed and the west towards prophecy is real. as now said, we own you were taking you were coming for you while the west of the world producers this through. oh, they're rescuing millions of syria and some photos. well,

the turkish people that to a large degree have been funded by the west have been supported by the west move engaged in service activities for the longest period of time. and that's on folding while cnn n. s. and be, say another main stream media chair and say, oh, it's the freedom fighters, the as well as any of our records. yeah. because i say you should go to you in new york. i mean, you know, this, this, this term designating someone a terrorist. i mean, i suppose now given 911 of the global war on terrorism, the, the, the designation and terrorist is not behavioral, it's political, right? right. i mean that we uh pick and choose who we, once we terrace, depending on the weather they support the united states interest. so not, you know, i've long since working them at least to somebody's office of them and advocated the most shouldn't be of service organization. his but i shouldn't be of service organization fund dimension. he, jonathan powell, it's that a good friday. we negotiated a good friday agreement. the,

the u. k. was to agree is that these people sign for their own territory. so we defining them as terrorist is just through our political gains. now, these guys, they are a group of, uh, idealogues who want to tear. uh, do you want to increase them some form of is onyx state or this area? and they're willing to take american money to go to they, they're in the definition of what we would think. us heiress steps, you know, as long as they help the west interest, we're going to let them run right. get on a state that's thousands of years old. that is, um, you know, got more history and most of your events, you know more and, you know, i, the other thing it frightens me with this is guys taken back on your other colleagues, clients. it's just like stick over and over again. you know, this is, this is the west coming up in england say, yeah, like me think when they were colonizing the middle east and the rest of the world or how they see fit, you know, they're going to give talks of it to israel. that is relevant and we'll take care of a given the terrorist a little bit of a region so they feel like they have their room stay intact. he's taking the band

that's all you know. and then they going to do this full under the guise of freedom, right. and hasn't everyone that often causal ready that you call and trust the western media on the narrative, just spend 14 months listening to them to this is rose, defending itself. when the young in america had to go to take talking instagram to find that wait, hold on. there's a genocide happening right. when people are the wilder, much because they've seen the images themselves, you come and see them. and we're sitting there watching these images, and some people have gone backwards and decided ways cnn showing us freedom. it must be true. it since it's a, it's a joke and then you've got johnny, i think your colleague pointed out, you know, he's standing there in a what could be in his radio tag is uniform in his head, charles, blah, from taki. all dressed up like visitor the landscape, and they gave them an interview on cnn. this is a guy who's in the wanted. what this guy's on the watch list. they didn't give an interview to sing. why? well, honey, a to justify their actions of resistance. when they should have been at least tanya,

who was the political spokesman of i'm a student and never got those moments on an american national network. they've done everything they can to create a propaganda channel and the narrative that they will see fit to divide the palestinian movement. that's the key here. they have been trying to divide people who from other middle eastern backgrounds of the arab countries who was united to your point, freedom for those other peoples, whether being siri and other regions to pull off the palestinian bandwagon is focused on their arm issues yet. but they're not even ashamed of their hub pockets . and that's what i find really quite fascinating. you know, daniel, if it, at some point in time, i mean, obviously i started out rather facetiously with these absurd narratives that are in circulation. but when there is a zionist agenda, american had gemini agenda and a neil ottoman agenda. i mean, they're bidding or not, these are not going to work. this whole thing isn't going to work out very well. daniel, a quote that was a confluence of interest that causes one policy action,

you know, in this case they're, they're, they're diverse in for us. that as you say, cannot work together. it's impossible. but you know, what's, what's disturbing a peter, you know, for, at least for me is that i was, i've been wrong about 0 getting, i should've known better. but you know, all of these years where i thought after they had had the this agreement and we had everything sort of bottled up in it lab that there was some piece, you know, we, we saw some, uh, you know, some good signs on the ground. but all the while the us itself was hollowing out the country, you know, the seas are active of 2018, which completely installed the economy, stealing all the oil, stealing while the wheat. i thought that was a side joint. in fact, it was a central piece. and all the while you have this cancer, it is growing and getting stronger and it would live in all of a sudden with a bite and foreign policy having for 4 years of absolute disaster, they re, they feel that somehow this is going to be their crowning achievement, they screwed up, everything else they've cost. and so what do they do?

they strike the root, knock out the cancer, and this cancer spread throughout the entire country, which i didn't realize the extent to which had been completely hollowed out. and i don't know if this is true, but i saw a chart yesterday saying that in a syrian era born, we soldier made about $5.00 a man where as an aged yes, wider made about 2000 dollars, month one who was paying those $2000.00 a month. yep, absolutely. you know stanley, i said in my introduction that um, when states so it would disappear. so do people again, i've never been. this program is never been to the celebration that work is never been a cheerleader for aside. he's gone good residents as far as i'm concerned, but minorities did continue to exist maybe harshly. but i don't see that happening right now. it live is already been brought up, the president of it, but even western media, the bbc deutsch, avella reported on the price of a nature of a live. now we're going to get that written large stanley. you know what, what we're going to say is there's the i c j repeat read yes. got to come out again

. we're going to see what lots of righteous indignation, lots of claims, lots of allegations about a, about what is real is doing what the united states is going, what questions kind of words are doing? what so called as long as terrorists are doing. and meanwhile, you're going to see millions of people spell it out. and united nations will often often grantham scream and yell with right, just indignation of selling for immediate cease fire, spoiling, for just this one. just wait for united, amazing staff to send another 200000. so for peacekeepers in the heart of serious to control who can go where, who can go when the name of peace. but meanwhile it's, it's, it's always been and will continue to be the name protecting weston interest. and the name of protecting is really in prison. the name, the protecting the global north under it's, it's excuse after, excuse, up, excuse. what is what is really pay me the last few days. you're seeing millions, right? well, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of syria and returning to the country, people on the ground cheering, hoping for the best. wishing for the best,

expecting the best. and we know where the weights and meanwhile, everyday is real, is doing a new bomb. and you're on every day in the united states is sending more rockets in every day. they, they, that the aspirations of millions of people who lived in a, they ask for up or 20 years now, day by day with some fumbling around, sadly hold that thought. because we, we have trip, we have libya all over again. except for on steroids. gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on syria. stay with our to the take a fresh look around his life. kaleidoscopic. isn't just a shifted reality distortion by tell us to division with no real opinions pictures designed to simplify well confused to really was a better will. is it just because it shows you

a few fractured images presented to this, but can you see through their illusion going underground? can the welcome at the cross. ok, we're all things are considered. non peter roosevelt you mind you were discussing syria, the . okay, let's go back to a she's in new york and i tend to be a pessimistic pessimist when it comes to these things here. the lightning speed in which this happened in syria for reasons that we have all the already talked about . i do worry that this a new offensive can be started in lebanon, and actually in rack as well. i think this lightning speed events is, is going to be much longer and, and daniel has already brought,

brought it up at the, by the ministration. quite literally wants to leave with a bang. go ahead in new york. a. yeah, the con, separate what's going on in syria with what they've been doing for the last 14 months in gauze, the west bank all this time. you know, this is business to buy the ministration, trying to wrap up, frankly, as much as they can because the uncertainty of will could come next to trump and they don't know what his agenda will be, whatever he said how, but they still just don't know. so they accept a ration of this was definitely deliberate on the bite and they wanted they didn't know what his position on the side and be with some of the people he's picked into gary positions. so they wanted to expedite this as quick as possible and remove the aside and create an environment, the israel to continue its aggression in the region. right. you cause separate any violence in the middle east from the 76. yes. the israel has existed in the region and what they're trying to do is to around 11 on the to the biggest strength is rather since bought like at least the direct conflicts, right. and they turn this around 11 on so they can actually take is blah blah from

all sides. and that's why the landing is the israel continuous land grab is going to go something like $6.00 to $7.00 times the size of gauzy. they've taken already from syria. they bones were 200 to 400, strikes across the steering, i guess because the steering country stands base taken out, all the defences hold imagery, capabilities. the navy there um the air force or leaving syrians to pass and the ocean. by the way, there is going to be a future syrian government, whatever it looks like, whether it's uh these guys here or the people, they go to the defense that's against any, is there any right hush and well spent the last, the week, effectively dismantling audience defensive capabilities against that i remember is very and people have the right to defend themselves and much is israel claims that right right now is read is breaking silver and territory to take that. and it will say, just estimate the infrastructure now is where i think the united states is helping is real surround lebanon. so they can say kit is one of the major chess pieces of

the board and his beloved and hopefully find me, take them out from that perspective. now the reason is the last so pivotal is you know, it is, i believe that the a is a lot and the math and this point of finding effectively for the survival of what we think is uh, you know, all right, because if this, if this way of a behavior that is rather, is putting out the united states supports the gas line of the seeing globally. this is going to be on your normal where the us and israel of the us can go is any country decimated gas y s. and pretend that they've given people frida and they'll protecting their country or defending an ally. and the reason, the reason his loss and pull and know how much the important right now is they are holding a way of, of a new normal back by continuing to fight against israel and continue to fight against the united states. because there's frankly, a direct floor at this point. so it taking throughout. so payments sold to them so they can surround, here's the lots of take, you know, i think one of the most what you've seen the direct consulate as well as a real on

a israel. nobody knows how to bone people and civilians and human beings from the sky when they had direct conflict in southern lebanon as ro is getting as off handed to it. and the reality is they needed a new move to try and take his blow out. because they were getting destiny, i think i lost them like 16, an estimate tanks on the ground. they lost a thousands of troops, lots of people, and the way the looking at it. you could see lots of people were appointed hospitals with and patients, lots of other serious military ending injuries. and while these role isn't reporting at stake, as you can see, there's a lot of damage being done. they need to cease by it. so recalibrate with the united states to take out one of the biggest threats to them in the region. straightened up, frankly, was protecting our people across the region. and what you're going to see is there's going to be resistance in the and coming up in syria from siri. and people wants to duff cells because they're not gonna accept this new minutes in the regime that's going to be put in by head. why didn't i buy something like the only way to

send you the way back and then how can, except is randy occupation on where that is? that's the most important. that's exactly where i want to go. yeah, daniel, this will be a new occupation and oh, in the meantime everyone that is real is going to wrap up the west bank if you know what i mean. okay. but the syria is, is there any it doesn't exist as a state? it's, it's, it's, it's been partition. we don't know the lines right now. i don't know how the, the, the americans and their curtis allies are going to do with air to one. um, but all i know for sure, daniel, is this going to be a lot of chaos. it's gonna last a long time and it's going to be very violent. daniel, a lot of the us is pretty good. the chaos you mentioned have it'd be earlier. we see how that's worked out and they don't care. i mean, in a sense, the h t us as an after thought, i mean they're, they're a convenient uh, a tool. but i mean, i think on, you know, the real action was right after they run least, as my colleagues said, here wasn't destruction of any ability of syria to defend itself. mean, i think that's the real action here, and it's such

a great point. i don't think it's a coincidence that it happened right when the so called cease fire was signed, they had to get rid of a supply loans and make sure that has the law could not be re supplied. and they did simply destroyed syria completely. you know, the notion of gas lighting isn't, is a very important learning. i'm glad my colleague brought it up because that's exactly what's happening with the united states in the us house of representatives. you have the feelings, like representative joe wilson, who all the years i was on the in the house as a staff or he would go down and make floor statements. and every single floor statement every single day was we will never forget 911. well, who is $911.00 joe? that was al qaeda is running siri. joe, i'll call you back. and he's the one now calling for an in the all sections. again, syria, now that l card is in control. this is the level of intellect of people who run the united states in our us congress and the white house. stanley, obviously israel, the united states and their allies feel very much in bold, and i mean there,

they are there and they're dizzy by success. the use of phrase here. um, i do worry that there's a hubris is going to kick in. and of course, we have a ran on the agenda, it's always been on the agenda and looking at the foreign policy, quote unquote expertise around trump. i worry that they even an, a greater expansion of this. maybe because they'll, they'll, there's going to be the perception or ran is weak or solid was weak, ran is weak. that doesn't, that's a, that's going to be a very dangerous equation. stanley. well, the notion that we had to destroy the village to say that, yeah, is that the, at the heartbeat of the united states, you know, we were call vietnam, but it's the history of united states. what, what, what, what, what my colleagues have said, which is directly on point, is israel rides in the midst of may, it creates excuse, it creates pre types the, the flaps. it justifies the most for risk of attach throughout the region. this is all about designing, disabling, and removing from the agenda,

the resistance against the really occupation doctors in palestine with the destruction and guys are turning the west bank and the gaza and guys into the west bank. but this is about the river to the sea, expanding 3456 times. why does it any rhetoric from anyone and conquer? this is about the united states and israel, of the adults who are the effort here is to re, may have it is to dis, disabled this arm and to diffuse any resistance to, to, as my colleague pointed out, as well, at this point is the greatest concern for is real united states in the region for the longest period of time. it has been the greatest supporter of self determination, independence and freedom of arabs against what i called. we support lawrence of arabia increasingly now to the contest from brooklyn. so yeah, got is absolutely right every why there was thrive in the midst of may have web and serial palestine yet and everywhere it produces the pre tax. and who knows what the

truck administration's kind of go with the apologists that are coming in from may. i'm saying, well, what we care about is our cell, whatever is in our own best interest, and i'm not distinguishing it from the democrats within now have the pre text to do anything and everything they with and order the safe side, their own self interest, because it's the and the out there is those our it serves as long as even if there were those types of problems. the reality of it is the us as long. yeah, benefit has been may have the region and israel's, the ultimate, wherever it is, particularly about the disarming the attacks, the excuses, the rationality and powers and nothing. yahoo. meanwhile he goes to court room. it says i'm busy, i've got to go kill 10000 people that yeah, i say is if we go back to your new york, i mean, or that would trump name's already been mentioned, your drum said in a very long convoluted. i don't know if the or they called true it's uh like tweets anyway. um, uh oh um, i'm so serious about our fight even though we just bought it. i mean, this is,

this is not a good foreboding here. go ahead. yeah, i think the interesting thing was electronic is, is just unpredictable. right? so i think there's any predictive and that's why i think buying again just that for last month buying made this move. now dell, what heaping securing is. rails again the, the american agenda are in the region because he just doesn't know what trump is going to do. i'm lucky surrounded himself by with sinus of course the surrounded himself with people who will get it, who i'm hearing and the ronnie are and, and the bring the arabs or whatever. but the reality is that he's so unpredictable . and this is going to be a sofa style government, no matter who appointments in any department, every decision is going to come from his got hit from the white house, whether it be on energy, foreign policy, whatever everything's going to come through him and his, his advisors in the white house, and that seems to keep an eye on right. now miriam handles and his biggest donors both have the cabinet. she wanted with

a 100000000 donation. she wants to westbank context. it's already being added. all of us here know that it's been on it since obama that you know. no one's stopped by never condemn that from his best time is in boy. did it even like a said the got going heights are officially as rails, you know, you broke ground in a term hotel, you know? no. the american president has started the annex in quiet and the only going to do is full of the attics. it in the eyes, the well and the good the, i would say there was an interesting good thing to come from that like doing that, he's going to stabilize so many people's political position on homicides. only europe will that lead is tell them that the keeps, think of that population, but keep gas line going. populations, we believe in 2 states. we believe in 2 states. you know, we hope this comes through then. so we can get a pricing. is that what is america who owns most of your effectively politically says well, there's no 2 states. what is too strong going to do, macro? i'm going to do which awesome jeremy, are you going to do? what are they going to do? look at this point or do you lose last most that domestic population who are

protesting weekly, daily, frankly, some states, what are they going to do at that point? they're gonna have to go against their american students there on this. yeah. what's that going to do against being really involved with syria, but the practice population is deeply pro palestinian and it's trump takes away the possibility of 2 states. was that countries should i say i was or then you're the 1st one i have you. you're assuming that democracy has any role in western, you know, as soon as certain color exists because it does a day more, i agree with you 100 percent, but it's not going to trickle up to a leads. and unfortunately on this very contentious issue we've run out of time, i want to thank my guess and like jackson and in new york. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us c r t c. and next time, remember across the rules, the

plus the see the silver. so the, somebody how can it be that um the ship to the middle east from a country whose top officials constantly complain about shortages of munitions and military equipments through a little bit of boss and locally and then maybe a little in your system and below came along the nominal facility or some of those other slash we, i'm about to the easiest and it was one of the easy somebody remember bubble sold? well, nice to have to kind of get this to have gone on. now, why are weapons from ukraine spreading over the world to, to this country and to a major arms hub, will continue to bolster ukraine's and forces by rushing them a capabilities that they need to defend their country. the everyone knows very well that we don't sell but known as pineapples or any kind of children's toys. we sell

weapons. yes, we're also known in the world as items dealers that we must not be ashamed of that the, of the russian military and car designed a series of attacks on ukraine's energy system responding to the strikes on russian territory using western long range messiahs earlier this week. also ahead, the peo, scripts, northern syria with at least 6 people reportedly killed by the us. but syrian democratic forces using live, i munition cheapest fresh products demonstrating in support of the ruling h t s. and electric as the u. s. rules out the red carpet for the terrorist and i've in control of syria.