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hello and welcome to wells a part. the 1st look at this fall on the sub government has shop many with supporters and opponents, but the collapse clearly doesn't solve many of this fundamental problems done. the syrian error of republic has accumulated over the last couple of decades. if anything, just made them the canals, if not deadly, is the serious fate we can buy, hears or fighting, likely to survive, and if not. and what else is likely to be drawn into the widening regional board tech's own destruction? well, to discuss that, i'm now joined by towards almost the on your political analyst and host of seriana analysis. give work is great to have you this evening. thank you very much for taking time to talk to us. it is amazing to be with your thank you very much shout . i know that to yourselves does something negative was in the works when the so called the rambles started advancing on a lat pull and beyond. but what was your initial reaction when the,
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your heard the news of the arm is defense as collapsing and the president fling the country? actually, realistically speaking, it was very difficult for the insurgents, represented by the stomach circus on army end, automated in groups to concur liberal, hama homes and almost causing a much of a few days. it is mathematically impossible for them. so there are decisions after the decisions being given by the higher command in the seer and army. we don't know whether president a former president bush or other side has given that decision or not, or the defense minister or the chief of stuff. however, the decisions for a given for the soldiers to retreats from other people to hama. and if i'm come out to homestead from home, so that most goes on dental, laid down their arms in the most goes. so this gives us the indication that there has been a deal a political deal in the background that we are not yet aware of it. off its details . however, it seemed that it was a bigger compromise,
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bigger than syria itself and suit. i couldn't resist this compromise or push against it, therefore they have accepted it. however, the outcome of it is that now we have h d s which is international in this the terrace group and ordered you how to groups have ok part the carpet. the left almost goes now speaking about this potential deal and we don't know if that's the case. ah, yeah. i remember back in 2013. i spend a lot of time on the ground in cedar one day is this integration of just began at that time there was a clear intention on the part of those serious international allies, including iran and russia to prevent the kind of strip from going down, building be on track and that the intention was clearly absent this time around why there's things serious elyse or former allies who knows student by as the country was falling into. while you can say in the darkness,
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we know that this decision so are made to, to retreat. and this indicates that a political decision, i mean, is that a decision were given to the military to retreat and decided to start it after the secret meeting between or unannounced. let me think, let's say, between president former president of charlotte site and present putting into kremlin. and this was 2 weeks ago. and after she arrived in the schools, it was clear that from the way $33.00, it's a start to happen from home to home. sometimes to almost goes that there was no will and decisions to fight. and the army was leading down to arms and to be truth thing without fighting against this insurgence. which means that there was a deal being broken, at least to be transferred to russia and through united states and israel in, in syria, in order to implement the either the us on our course or the, you and the resolutions in order to provide, let's say, a new opportunity or implement the decision which could lead into elections. but
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this was the worst outcome that we could ever imagine because replacing what the mainstream press calls. and many also i do, i know, told me to have the end of the gym with a c or can i see it's not the progress i've heard the number of iranian and russian . a source is blaine by charlotte sod for being sunburn in decisive and unwilling or perhaps unable to strengthen the country from within. and cultivate sounds sort of understanding with his opponents, both in a, within and outside the country, including some of them bill for his by the turkish president. one day thing preventive came from being perhaps more proactive or flexible in this regard. as i think there are multiple issues here, one of which is the domestic factor, the domestic fact that i agree that the president i saw that i was not flexible. and former president was not flexible. and you should have been more flexible, at least with occurred with the currents india. so shut off the freight is. and it really helped me, let's say, a normalized, almost the size,
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let's say with the curbs. the insurgents with have had less chances to conquer the entire city as they did though. so this is i agree, but however, on the 2nd part which is on the regional level, what was the expectations off eat on and the restaurant from syria. they were expecting for us to meet with air their band and they have exerted maximum pressure to against i saw during even the last elections and check it to meet with the gun and shake hands with him. and for the former president, i thought he thought that the, the meeting with the gun has to be fruitful. why are you going to meet? is it for a 4th or something? no, you have to agree, at least on the principles of negotiations with could, which could leave into a positive outcome for both sides and evidently fused until the last day to send a formal commitment to iraq and the restaurant. and those were the mediators between syria and cherokee, that at the end of the political process, he would withdraw his process from syria. he never volt that he never wanted to
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draw from syria. but now it's even worse than this situation. it's, it was situation because now turkey will certify in my opinion i left for like they did in how to hire, which was the scan that one belonging to syria. i think turkey is a major victor of this conflict in syria a few days ago and your role that we're trying to solve not only failed to protect syria from for an intervention, but abandoned the country to darkness and betraying to everyone who believed in him . his cup of choice and it wasn't just in betrayal. it was assumed relation. now i emphasized strongly with your bitterness and even more so with the perio real peril of the people who are 11 behind. do you think a former president could have handled his departure differently if indeed there was some sort of a deal in green behind flow stores or definitively and there is no doubt about that . and the 1st question i was asked by the jim administer impressed when they wanted
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to see me. they said, what do we think about? i saw it and i said, i don't mind whether it's a side or the i'm not, or ali or george. i don't care about the names i expect from the president to respect his constitutional duties and to fight against a foreign back insurgency. and if he fled the country and 2012, for example, when he received lots of offers to desert and go as a lead for g to different countries. if he accepted that i would have called him a treasure as well. but now after 14 years of 4 and giving the help to the people that at least the outcome of this conflict is going to be more positive. and after lots of misery, devastation and kidding, and to many casualties. and many people believed in him that at the end of the software being there is going to be a positive outcomes to be traits oldest principals, and he left the country. now, syria is an open are enough for all, for any intelligence, assuming, i mean it's completely destroyed the syrian infrastructure of scientists. we have
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over many, many assessing nations happening in the country and mess exactly shows in the streets. i think he left the country into chaos and he left the country into the hands of the bark forces, especially issued. yes, he should have at least guaranteed that the state institutions and the army would not be touched because the army they possessed. the backbone of new state, and if you destroyed the army, then the country, it would be time like just a country with police and israel as a neighboring country. and israel has the expansion, is the desires in the region, as you can see that okay, fine. now largest source of saving territories without any resistance thinking about us out, i think it's natural to in politics, to put all the blame on one 1st analogy and i think it's perhaps justified. but to be fair series of very complicated country in a very difficult region. and a part of me is not surprised that either hospice out on the side or bush on this. i mean the way the dell with the challenges that's perhaps not the
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best way. i'm doing really, but i'm not sure. the, the, the forces that came to replace them. we'll do a better job. what's the orientation here? different actually the forces replacing came are going to create an end, slummy to light state at the beginning. and they will start to infiltrate all the state institutions and the rest of the country, or let's say other communities, other religious sex is it, is there was sent themselves isolated or overwhelmed by the strong force. who is likely to see that is going to be the democracy of the major over the over the minority. and just to say, present it now by the nominations for the transitional government. and the head of the government isn't his name is and she is a uh deflect of the uh, if somebody is be just behind him. so i think so it's good to have avoided all this speak with have come to the people and said that there is a deal and our size is political science has become smaller than it used to be
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a few years ago. our economies impactors and we in a give up my alternatives to the prime minister and he needs a transition of the area. we hold elections and i live at the country often want to because i have become a divisor, feeder, and american. so i don't lifting the sanctions and i want for my people to try and reconstruct and i won't. i don't want to stop in the way for the construction. and then he leaves at the same time, to a sorry to the people. anything about living like this? it raises lots of questions because his personality is not like that. i follow to him close. the for the in the past is very stubborn. his strong personality, therefore, leaving like this it, it, it, if the shutter is all the helps and the picture that he has established for himself in front of the people who believed in him. now there have been a number of interviews in western media when they had to fire up. i said, i've shown on google, how much are delani, who started off as a radical to had is. but if you look at his interviews right now,
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she mentions you know, such things as building institutions and the need to sort of base governing decisions. in reality. i know that amc was younger in years he started public relations. do you take the, the sort of references or through institutions as a p r, a tactic, managing perceptions of that watson public or do you think he may have indeed a chance their views after his years are fighting. i mean, i'm going to drill down. it says this was just a phase like in the game of phase or somebody joins some code 6 a his. i mean, when i was younger, i wasn't a declaring jihad and killing people in iraq or else are based on their religion or based on their religious beliefs. and that's impossible for someone to recover from this type of, i'd eulogy big. so lots of and let's say do you radicalization and i think the 100 south federal i need it's, it's quite obvious that the hands are a saga, giovanni,
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or the democratic wing of the deep states in the us. and they are even feeding him certainty. and then all the just to use like yeah, yeah, he's more inclusive now or he wants to, i've missed it differently. and he is a rebel, he's a, it'd be comedy and reformed, etc, etc. and if you give them a few more months, they would call him like an ally off the entropy take to community. because this is how the democrats do, basically this is a and also you will see in the future that they really use them. i normally do is the christians as a makeup for cosmetic reasons, in order to say like, like the democrats, do we have one woman into cabinets, or we have a black person, or we have a transgender person. this is how they are going to treat the minority, do sincerely, i like they are to it. they cool. they could, they are, as, let's say, make out for their islam is kind of getting off the government. but sooner or later people realize that i'm not to you. i criticized outside enough in my opinion, i'm not defending us. so that's all about to replacing the sides with edge the as
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is not the only going to change the political discourse. i've seen it, it's going to change to civilization. i'll discuss. i said, yeah. and everybody who was proud of $7000.00 a year old of civilization. they have put in the civilization in the hands of people who do not respect it in the country. they despise new civilizations, who passed through syria and they believe, you know, one color society. we have to take a very short break right down. but i think we'll be back to this conversation in a few moments featured the toilet. some remodeling feet suddenly less weight or more in the full moon. she's
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each screw when the customer will just didn't. i didn't know it sits on us. what is the for supposed to do it? but still a notion where y'all are somewhere else that you think your sewage, the right, they're going to deduct months. you said live in years. the one the telling me is that of course go mama. that to me, answer those videos the, the welcome back to worlds of parts we ask and work on my son, joe political analyst and host of city on analysis. now let's talk about the geo political implications of the power change and say ran the we have already mentioned iran in russia, which neither of which came to serious defense as this time around. now, what's different this time from a decade ago is that both of these nations have a, consider considerable military challenges of their own dealing with various western
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proxies. do you see this case as them essentially prioritizing their own defense as their own resources or perhaps a, as a case of letting the west have. it's so cool, victory and you know, take it away from here and deal with it. or actually your site is already in an existential conflict, and you will create and i think we did the upcoming year. so administration the it would be cool down a little bit to conflict in ukraine. and if the restaurants are playing, um, lets say trustworthy us, i'm just putting myself into shoes off an russian bull additional decision maker. if i can guarantee my navy and the naval base in, in talk to us. and in the exchange, the americans would face the conflict in ukraine or allow would i show to keep the territories that it has recently? and next, i think this would be much more ground for the americans and the restaurants in syria. on the other side, do you have any? and so i think there are one of the biggest losers of this conflict in syria
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because their entire investment in the past. let's say 14 years in syria has gone in vain. the how the investor so much media trimming the economically into contract to keep the culture impact about also because of the importance of syria in what it used to be called the axis of resistance. however, after october 7, when isabel went on a rampage and the smoke bent open, the soldier housing goes that they have complete the i need the a to the entire infrastructure in gaza. therefore, the mind will be and they have already come into the genocide in part because they destroyed. and disney group in part or in whole in cause. uh huh. and how much has been weakened a lot and as well as the entire leadership is gun. the law here is destroyed many, many religious i've destroyed in the south, and without a syria who's when love becomes a local player. because his well, obviously is it's most of its weapons to syria or from syria. so in the supply chains are kind of when that becomes a looking player. so now beyond the,
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let's see, allies in the region who are part of the stuff, is this this weekend or replace because syria is gone therefore is, in my opinion, is going to be the biggest nozer. and the biggest retailer in this region is going from insurance. you certainly will replace you dollars in 4 months in inferior. and in the south is right basically is what is to be honest with you. i don't think there are any victors once i am right in this uh why they mean conflicts. and what comes to mind sir, is um, you know this, there is a, this phrase in english, i think owing its origin to one of a sub scrambles, you know, be careful. whatever is for less of come true because we saw and we be under the toppling of government not only failed to benefit the domestic population and actually failed to benefit the sponsors of the cool. and they were later punished very, very heavily. but i know that i'm wishing that upon the sponsors of the sara nicholas. but anyway, i want to ask you, how do you think the west,
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which is widely celebrating? it's victoria right now, how this thing the united states, israel and the rep and union are likely to deal with this issue. i think they are very, very happy with the outcome of this conflict for so for the u. s. has secure to do security at the off, it's a client state in the region which is right in this case. and it has also secured the return of many of the features from turkey to syria. and also, most importantly, the opinion cartridge, which were very worried about the escalation and coming off new will be for just now they can also send back the people who are basically supporting just as the s. but the irony is, that is the s e is on the list of the terrorist list of the d u n. d united states . and they are celebrating the, let's say, the replacement off. i'll start with a terrorist organization basically, which gives us the impression that all these lists are worthless. they are just for
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political use and they can also use service groups in order to achieve their 2 upon the different goals. and once they have each that they would, they wouldn't turn their back against. all i need to align is a dead man walking. they always tell him, sooner or later like they chose the back the id or to the summer beloved and they would troy as by the end to of course, and then say that he disappeared off. well, let's do a warrant with all due respect. i mean, they can, you know, assassinate as many leaders as they want. but, you know, this region is all in read the, you know, a ball waiting a human bomb waiting to explode because he mentioned many of the tobacco and conflict in iraq and syria in guys and 11 own people are on that. and it seems to me that you know, a couple of assassinations are not going to solve, you know, a tremendous social problem that has been created. some would say on purpose. and that's the reason one day thing. i mean the, so this type of process initials are just cause methics again, like assessing anything back to the id or giovanni or we send our beloved in have
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days top the i do a lot, you know, because we have allies of the us in the region a, they are try being decide to look at their supporting decide eulogy. what is the ideology off h d s? now what is it to us the, are the most refund done? so i found is the off shoot off. ok the so here's the giving the cash money yesterday, one of the former in my 6 office. so says that every inch the s member i think, uh, receives around a $1000.00 per month. so who's paying for for them to begin with? it's got start, everybody knows it's paying, the money is coming from tops and cuts hard is a major no need to ally in the it's, it's a classification in the us department. therefore, the kidding people will not solve the d soft terrorism in the region, but try to solving the root cause. and that is the ideology. and when you close the funding of to scopes, they want to stay in minority in, in any society we have crazy people. but when you would give them weapons and you
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train them and then give them the logistic of that intelligence support and financial support, of course they will overcome the government and take over the most goes. and these people in syria, they don't enjoy the support of the vast major on the death to see it. and people about the p. r is very strong, the funding is very strong. and now celebrations that i see on tv. and i wonder, what are they celebrating for now? and you mentioned it turned to k. and you see as one of the biggest winners for now, at least on the, on our support for the as long as groups and each power change and the mass coast raises. once again, i'm a historical issue on the curtis independence and creation of a separate curtis state, perhaps now in sarah, but also with implications for the larger region given the minority is the larger uh, furnace minors is both in turkey in iraq. how do you see this issue evolving? do thing uh turkey can um, properly to what it has been all the time was because by the, in my opinion,
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when data is going to be, if turkey launches, i mean, it should be all sensitive against occurs that a trip ends. the existence of the occurs in is to shut off the freight is. i think the kurds will rely more on the americans and they would open up most of these residues like they did in northern iraq. and i think this is the plan. the plan is to put these communities under immense threats in order for them to accept the american and courteous and these variety protection. and the case is similar in as the way the government already installed on syria where it is populated, mostly by the do is people and the jews have a strong presidency into okay, probably going on heights and up until this one month is ready. so i've always sending a message to the jewel saying, look, if you're attracted by this, it's not missed. we can protect you, we can give you an access to the golan heights. so in the future we will see definitely the minorities and defend to, let's say, new cities and nationalities are coming under events to create the pressure. and
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this will be an opportunity for the us, on israel to present themselves as they have yours to this mine on it is like they did with the cds, will support that will support that isis from 2013 on 2016, where i suppose was sitting, it's only basically for the nato countries, right? so they weren't receiving cash money from a natal country. and when they started committing a genocide against the cur, the curves as it is christians, the americans came and said, this is a war against terrorism. and they have, okay, price, lot of sweats, i've seen in $30.00 those terrorism is an opportunity. and for the us for an important subject is because it allows them and gives them to perfect justification to intervene. meanwhile, their intelligence cups up these type of groups into each other. yeah, but the americans, as i'm sure you know, have a traditional way support in bigger curtis groups in, in syria. and you know, what i'm looking forward to is the, is the way present area go on and present towns will relate to one another because
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they have both of them. they have a rather mercantile, have hard bargain, and perhaps somewhat the risk approach to foreign policy. i'm not sure they, with, with them that you either or pressure premier. well, what do you think about inducing turkey is pursuing uh its own political designs right now, or it isn't doing the american bidding. i truly induce or offensive, particularly offensive from it lab, which led to the entire occupation of syria. i believe that this was a bold move by air down because aircraft so that in a few weeks, if trump comes to power, when he comes to power, he wouldn't impose certain compromises into the gym. and she wanted to conquer land in syria, any poof, his position when the time for negotiations come in the near future. so i ordered on his soul the finding his position on the negotiation table. but at the end of the day when the time for a compromise comes, for trump, if he wants to withdraw from see that he doesn't mind if northern syria is ok, fight by the turks or by the curves for him. what methods the most is that this
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region would be relatively, i'm saying the stabilize so that the influx of the features would not be also to europe. but at the same time, once there is a trip against the kurds from the turkish side, because certain people also plays a double game like the americans. if they play a double game and a trip on the existence of the kurtz is to shut off, the faith is the americans and the west. and israel, they will present themselves as a protector and all save yourself the codes. so both sides are benefiting from the situation. americans to church and to your opinions. and the only people, as you mentioned, paying the bigger price of the saving people because there is no victor in among the sea and people seem as lost as silver entity. and they lost it completely. they don't have even an army to protect the country any longer. how can you rely on a country to build? so would it be that 70 the if it doesn't have a is an army which has secured is borders. it's sort of entity, this is $1.00 oh $1.00 in political science. without an army,
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there is no strong culture, especially in the middle east, which is a jungle. and i think the problem here is not only the absence of the army, but the absence on the stable resource base i'm, i'm sure you would agree with me. that's washington. i was undermining this. they also have the government by stripping it on the oil revenues from the syrian oil fields that the americans are occupying at this point of time. do you think that's likely to change? because whoever comes to power in damascus, they will have to have some sort of very restores based on your i say, account on the wrong, the country on, on the revenue that the mosque was receiving. at this point of time, i truly the americans look at by 50 percent of serious or then energy resources and also the wheat fields. so they have the foot basket and also the energy basket in their hands. and they have black me in syria for a long time, for a compromise in exchange for giving back of the oil and the wheat fields. i think in this case, since this, the oil fields are in the hands of the kurds and the americans,
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the americans will try to secure this uh, oil fields for the currents. because if the codes are going to declare a federal system or to separate from the rest, i'll see that they will also need the oil to function properly. but i think this is going to cause award between the the curtis down, let's say, enclaves and turkey. it says so the situation is very, very difficult. people who think that this will end what this call the civil war in syria. it's not going to and it's will only take exasperate the conflict in syria. people may think that this relative piece that we are witnessing today is a positive thing which ease, but on the longer on it will only increase the pensions ethnic tensions. so really just tensions and fight over resources, especially the oil fields. and this will lead into further destabilize ation of the region. something that we have been witnessing in the past decades divide and conquer this threat. that just seems size pete the sex people. a 120 years ago, the bits and the french divided these region. and now the americans are dividing
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and once again, because this is how the rule in order to impose your supremacy and here's your money on the region, you have to divide the region into this practical lines. well, but the sooner or later the account's a point where you cannot divide it any longer because there is nothing left to be divided on well on these various i'm very know we have to leave it there. but thank you very much for sharing your analysis with us. thank you so much for having me. and thank you for watching hope to see her again. on the was a part of the
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the one week after the syrian government co ops and multiple forces attempted to move their interests forward in the war torn country to look at all the hands grasping for pieces of the pipe, the south free and parliament to impeach as president used to deal following his short lived martial law, actions, opposition leaders are pushing for the now suspended liter distaste. further consequences. russia continues to gain ground and new praying is the price to escalate the conflicts by using long range us weapons. and incoming american president trump argues whether these weapons should have incense in the 1st place. and the former opened a i.
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