hi, that's in what is left of syria, a trail of destruction from all dover to remain yet to georgia to ukraine is being blazed by the defeated, by the hours regime in washington ahead of donald trump, single duration of turkey. and israel have no invaded syria, but it is nothing. yeah. who has taken responsibility for ending the rule of bush our last side, finishing the supply routes for 8 to 11 and, and palestine also invaded by israel, given white a one that will most a certainty this christmas i could be, looks less peaceful than ever in the holy land, ironic. the today is south africa's south dakota day of reconciliation. and after the decades of u. s. u. k. u. um, deposit i the that south africa, which of course brought the nature of them genocide even gone as a case to the dying international criminal court. opponents design is a long time campaign for human rights all around the world. roger waters, the legendary pink floyd front man, joins me now from the caribbean. roger, thanks so much for coming back on going underground. i'd rather talk about the

sequence that code sequence. i dunno to wish you were here, but you know why we're both here. you've tirelessly supported palestine, palestinians, the un resolutions violated by britain united states, the urban union. i'm the israel, is it, is it now over for palestine, given the crucial the nation of syria as being defeated? well again, i find out a way as a, as to months on folk. none of us wake up in the morning thinking, oh well, that's better. oh, well, this is all right now. you know, um you were telling me before we went out on about the new purchase of july, a refugee camp and it's, you know, looks like a run by a military airport that's been found in garza or and go so yeah that's so in about does a now, um, i'm talking about cosa yeah, mainly now. however,

it is super important to these moments to stand up to keep standing up. every morning when we wake up, when we, when we, you know, dry, our eyes stop weeping for our brothers and sisters in garza and in syria or as well . so of course, many people were filled up with the whereabout hooping and hollering, oh, syria is free. let's wait and say wait and see what happens in syria before we jump up and down too much. so. busy we have to say, is it, we are what we, we are watching the machinations. so possibly the end of an pie, the west and then 5 said the mosque is off. we the west are behaving with unbearable brutality towards the press peoples all over the world. mainly i focus by work on palestine and garza

willis continue. my sense is the way the people hate it. we hate the brutality of our government. we hate the fact that our government clearly don't give a big for the geneva conventions or for any kind of a rule of international law, which is something that we thought they believed. and why did we think the governments believed in these things? because they told us that they did over and over again. ever since they ever since 1948, really in the universal declaration of human rights in paris, december, the 10th, 1948. they've been telling us that they care about human rights and then now so that now the mosque is often that because of the genocide that's being perpetrated

by these really government invalid stuff and all compliments were mine in the u. k . um and obviously the government, the united states and france and germany and all of them, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. i saying they, we never believed any of that. we've never had. because obviously, if we did believe that, then we would be insisting on the implementation of the i, c. j. we're learning about the genocide going on in gus. i might all weight with, with standing on the sidelines a way of waving or is riley flags somewhere roaring those little. sure. and that's the human being in palestine is their intention is to slow to have a 3 man woman and child so so, so when you wake up in the morning, a good feeling search of the features. if one does, you have to pull yourself together a go. no,

i am not allowed wretched action. neither are you my friend. we are surrounded by brittany, it's barely, it's a human beings who like us, recognize the color, the name of what's going on. no, it just didn't goes it, but many places said the road and we are standing shoulder to shoulder. we have taken to the streets in huge numbers in the olympics. it is all over the world to demonstrate our support for a future where international law is applied as a rogue states, like israel of the united states of america and the united kingdom cannot get away with that wall crimes the bold crimes that they are committing day by day, by day add on and on. so this visual tumbles into memories of jude,

our friend julian hassan, as being in bell marsh for 4 years and, and all that revolution. the wiki, leach revolution. when suddenly we discovered through to know that a ways to discover the truth about what is actually happening in our lives. and wouldn't it be wonderful action if you were allowed to do your job completely properly? but if we, if you were allowed to do it with the support of the governing bodies, imagine if we were actually allowed to have a real investigation, for instance, into 2 things round the note rad october, the 7th. how, how wonderful would it would be if there was allowed to be an international investigation? and so what actually happened on october, the 7th in south and israel. okay. who did what to whom, how many people,

what actually killed whether that was a new rape or that was made and all of those things. but of course the is really government will not allow an investigation and probably made the, with the american government. so that's one thing. and the other thing which is a big close even closer to home now, is, well, actually has been happening in syria, a lease. yes. you know, well, i think it was that we'll get into some of the if you haven't been ongoing underground since before, julian was a release or a mutual friend. but since we are both british the prime ministers. okay. as dominic had the crown prosecution service, which we know was responsible for trying to make fake sex claims against julian decides to founder with the legs. and he was in cyprus on the bass. you know, keep bide cypert to that criteria this week for the past few days. anyway. st.

quite a bit of what goes on here con, necessarily be talked about. we can't tell the world what you are doing. of course, referring presumably to britain's participation in the genocide in casa, what does that make you feel? and as you uh, intimated, because some of the greatest demonstrations by the people against the u. k. u as you um these rather have been in london then in birmingham and drives going in all over britain against uh, i guess is right. well, it probably should pretty uh, actually and because i watched that on my phone and it was just um, a, making a stump speech. uh, apparently this is some, all right, have pass now inside person that does the same well. care stomach is the stop. he doesn't have to stand the stump is stop a s t a. and these just isn't that solely it's. i'm happy to read reports all the

time that i felt as through all my industry major, that his premier ship in the united kingdom is turning about out to be an absolute disaster. and that he may be on seated at any time by the power public opinion, the sooner the better because he is an opportunist of the west, west kind that older. so his history is pat with a savory associations with and my 5 and i my 6 and all kinds of stuff that we absolutely do not want an a prime minister in the u. k. well, he was doing in cyprus, i have no idea. maybe you could maybe explain it to me, but i there are more important things in life. well there was, this guy plays the spies plains, the, the as riley's rely on. yeah. yeah. that matt can uh, just being explaining to us or those of us will follow back, can i?

i know you do cuz he was on the phone last week the other week. okay, well let you go, there you go. and i've been following his stories, which should be an extremely detail, and i am so ashamed to be an englishman reading his reports of what we have been doing to be complicit in the genocide is being perpetrated now to apply to x rays in dallas or in the west bank in palestine deeply, deeply ashamed to be an english man under these circumstances. so well done. i cannot thank you. but you told me earlier about the need to be hopeful the importance of the fact that so many people around the world believe like you do this is janice i a but uh, you know, i gonna take it back to you being telling concert audiences for decades. about threats to the afraid of the come in the, you know, the visions of old is actually and jo jo, well that day for us. and you being warning about what would happen to

palestine and that seems to have the as a bus. so where is the optimism coming from? is coming from a deep well of truth and love. i have here. i'd carry around with me, but it has to be a deep well, because to find these criminal lunatic. so a trying to destroy the, well, the wheel core is, is a desperate fi at the moment. but, and as i keep saying again and again, we all of us, you may f shade and that kind of and julian massage and everybody else. so he's trying to tell the truth about anything we are involved in the next essential battle for the soul of the human race. if the empire wins this

battle, then we will do our children and grandchildren and any survivors of any of this stuff in the future. we'll have to live in a well where we've just all agree that it's genocide is ok. yeah, sorry, we go to, oh, wrong. we thought of to the 2nd. well, we'll, that we could civilize ourselves and that we could live under uh, under the rule of international law that they, they were rules because we believed in a moral compass. if they, when, if the bytes on some blankets in the bottom is and trumps. and the new lawns and sullivans and the rest of them in washington. and the key is thomas in england, and the for roches. if they win this ex, essential battle for the solar, the human rights, we will live in a future where a, you've got a gun. you should shoot anyone who doesn't agree with you or who

thinks that they should be universal human rights like the palestinians do. that's all they're asking for, is equal rights for every one who lives between the jordan river and the mediterranean sea. that's all. it's as simple as that. a quote, several religious and political rights for roger. roger, what is, i'll stop you that more from the legendary pink floyd front van off to this, right? the

since world war 2, united states has fostered extremist anti russian prejudices and hatreds among the ukrainian d as for and at least in canada, united states and countries in eastern europe, probably everywhere. and it doesn't matter what these groups say or do it will support them if it is the groups are causing hatred and chaos within the target country. joe again might done choose the scale of sort of do well, i suppose for the middle, i know myself, it just means the printer was using just $50.00. let me see, i see i use is anyone at any saying if there's a religion the

welcome back to going into that as soon as you think floyd drum that will georgia's what are you talking about? hoping about one. but of course, what we've been seeing in syria, and i know you flew into syria, i think in the middle of the war to rescue someone. uh, a lot of the people that support of palestine. i've been south of raising been divest, so i didn't syria, and the these are the same sort of pro palestine people that regurgitated stuff about chemical weapons attacks and the need to a really bombard syria is what do you think? good evening. the problem again, the media in the nato countries in the vessel states of washington are going hang on a minute. this is the isis heck, that's flying on the,

on my ad most can damascus. we're going to be a little bit careful. maybe even though it's something from i've got this guy. now i don't think they are. i don't think that that shuttle, you know, i think that getting browser are starting to have some. yeah, because this is the opportunities to do that. you know, the way could wait, she's gone and he's slapped costs to must go with his tail between his legs. so now we can celebrate and tag goodness of freedom has come to the country. it watch a pretty serious being occupied since 2013. there is a 1000 american troops stealing the oil, the guy who's about to be a at the new president of united states when public years and years ago and said, we have to stay there in steal leo. and i've been doing it ever since. i've been completely open and honest about it. it's exactly what was talking about before the

break. we are again, a powerful guides to ship and we're going to steal every thing that they rates in the well as with stealing. and one of those things is the oil that belongs to the people of syria. we'll steal it. i'm probably bring down the government. yeah, well, well done. you did bring down the government and you did it by stealing the royal. and by applying economic sanctions to the state have other jobs, they never had a jobs at the end of the day. obviously a solid might huge mistakes of brands. i've no idea who a sod was. i know he was a trained ophthalmologist and that it was never meant to be the leader of syria is brother was meant to be the late f and a brother rather inconvenient. they killed himself in a car crash. that's any reason. bashar assad, kaybree didn't plan and now i see that i of course,

people go watch my interview with robert and yeah, because we're gonna watch my interview online somewhere may be and this will be deleted with the it aside. now living in the moscow, we invite them. oh yeah. but yeah, sorry you, as you're saying about the people sharing the deposit. yeah. so let's, let's, let's wait and see what happened the show way. i looked at the map yesterday of what happened between 2 to syria, between 2011, and now and the way that the, uh, the lines, the battle lines have gone back with some fluid, some back with some point. so let's, let's just wait and see what happens. now the other one does what happens to the codes in north a, syria or, and so on and so on and so forth. or i tell you something that has been happening and this is gossip. so set, but it's my gosh, and that is, and i'm encouraged by this maybe i shouldn't be. i released something on subset the

other day, which is i released the emails that went back with some poets between me and tell me all of the band radio at a time. if you've seen them they, you can, if you want, just go to my subset. does this tell me you will go radio head who walks of stage recently, because heckler's we're talking about the genocide. yeah. he was heckled by a pro palestinian protest because the off to mass of radio head planning and celebrated in 2017. when i wrote the e mails to tell them your to encourage him to join. the boy taught best man sanctions movement. no, but for man is right. and he then went on and did the interviews with the routing stone, where he told he lied about to teach is not a true is t. unless always we're, when you've got,

when you have somebody like that, who's news that you might like, or you might respect what we own. and you might think they stand for something and that, that there's something in the music that makes you think that they may be, are trying to tell the truth in some way about things. and then you see them in, in an interview was rolling stone, lying and lying. and his big lie was, was the people in beads refused to have a conversation with him. that's why i publish my emails cuz my emails, so banking have. so i'm a proxy for the media as my books to have the conversation and it goes in print saying that nobody would speak to them. we just threw them from the mouth, west complete pool. keep part of my boy. and you shouldn't be telling those poor people anyway. well, i'm saying is, i'm encouraged by the fact that certainly lots of people are looking up myself, stacks big now. so i spend my days deleting the hundreds of new subscribe. now not

deleting the subscribers to hardship location because you have to have seen a sign queue or for subscribing and for reading the pays because this is what we need to be doing. as we have an opportunity to stand shoulder to shoulder now and rail against the powers that pay and say, no, lincoln no, by no trump. we do not accept genocide as a modus operandi. oh, for random, for our future actions on this planet that we, the human race are trying to organize in a way that is beneficial to all of us. will it be if we can see much info? sorry, sorry to interrupt that, the consumable light flush the interrupt to consume. oh boy, good service,

middle class. so i agree, but it is south africa reconciliation day. and culture is fundamental to the war. and the ability of hollywood culture, television, culture, music, literature, poetry, obviously as being important in conditioning the minds of the nato countries to believe the genocide was okay this year. uh. but then on the other hand, it is, as i said, the south africa reconciliation day. no one can even guitars for a queen, right, and may is be dry. and man is joe, and i didn't mention it to him, but no one cassidy played sun city with the band queen. and i think we should all be able to maybe read off the names of the lights on city in defiance of nelson mandela's. a plea you didn't, did you know? it's in general elton john. so elton georgia and laurie probably no one has. so that's another problem to the fact that we've witness. genocidal is here. and hollywood all those actors,

the parade into the lensky in care of that alone who have done towards it. israel and nothing comes of it to give a swing round in the end as it was now. all those l jump probably supports the anti racist efforts in south africa. now i assume, so we will, we both live through the same amount, same bit of history option, and some people are more subject to the propaganda or of the ruling class than others. i think it depends. very largely, it's depends on joe graffiti, but it also depends on who your parents were. i was lucky enough to be bo onto very passionate, politically committed parents. my father died killing the nazis or trying to kill them. now it says i'm the answer bridge that they killed in whatever my mother was . i was deeply committed to. the predicament of the working class in england was maint consequentialism. i'm russell coleman, his buddy. so i grew up with

a dead father, which is being a defining factor of my entire life. i understand what it means to be a baby, and everybody around you is being killed, all the important ones. so when i see those pictures of those children, those babies in garza, i went through nothing, nothing compared to what they've been forced the truth. but i kind of know about and put side switzer. so my embassy, i'm a one years old, my embassy remains intact. i so that's why i cannot stand by silence and didn't different like brian my aol jo in a while, but they have different cost and maybe they believe kids style. most rac disgusting, sharing on the boys to go on this by mission. so if it goes that, so that is really, is, can more accurately dropped the bombs on ref,

fee area, or whoever it may be that they've decided that they can point to it. what is it they call it? that is a, as i saw you to your apartment until you and your family, if you're in the boat and then i feel no ample, who cares the just going to kill every one. so we cause it's hard to point the finger these become because they were, they grew up in, in, um, in families showing an atmosphere when, how many candidates and asked about any of that. i assume because how anyone can stand by silent and different now while this genocide is being committed in gaza and the occupied westbank in palestine. i do not know. all i know is that when i wake up in the morning,

i have to do something to time guards to you. she and i could talk to you cuz we've had a conversation. i will at least still you've done something today. roger, you've been given the opportunity to speak your mind and to show how much you can about your all your brothers and sisters. absolutely. as relates, imagine being brought up in that l. how rang prejudice and supremacy racial religious supremacy. well, at this gusting must be, as i have to grow up in a match and being and these really do i call them budget a cannot about buying code and a, some of the my standing up you know, me go play, for instance city and leave a my friend a nightstand and run it, but now lives in germany where anyway,

it doesn't matter. it doesn't really match it. but we have to unite. there are billions of us. there were a much, many, many more robust than they were all of that. because basically they are the ruling classes and the acolytes and there are a lot more of the classes that do not grow. then there are all ruling classes pop. we have to go on being vocal. we have to go on taking to the straits. we have to go out and put testing. we have to go on having an open mind. we have to go on, but believing intrusive love those 2 words essential to all mantra and you know, bustle, schumann writes, that is the most important platform. a comb, which we've said roger was, is you've tirelessly have promoted the course of human rights for hundreds and thousands of people in the past couple of years. thank q. thank you. action has

been a pleasure as always, and that's after the show continued condolences to the surviving u. k. u. s. u, i'm genocide here in this region will to, to hollywood propaganda on saturday show with an oscar nominated screenwriter who funded the black panthers until then keep in touch with all that social media. if it's not sensitive, we will country and i to a channel going underground tv on roboto. com to let you know that besides the going under grantees have the, the activity because that's the deal in the system. really zip leslie's new? yes. infinity. no no

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in the israeli forces, reportedly striked to regions in western syria following a week of idea of attacks across the country after this saw the government's collapse. also a head on r t. the disturbing images out of gaza as is really forces bomb and unrest. school killing at least 20 and wounding dozens and its attacks on the enclave. russian troops advanced and don bass and destroyed numerous nato tanks and the cursed regions. despite heavy losses. ukrainian, paula.