these but definitely to be able for, for i don't get yeah. yeah. yeah. no, i'm just that. yes. and thanks for coming on the program that we appreciate your time. good to speak to live from southern nigeria. that's mr. algo, a morris deputy executive director of the environmental defenders network. thank you, mike. you know, when roger waters is interviewed, you can be sure he speaks his mind and you can catch him right ahead on going underground today at talking the british government spends on the gals of war. his relationship with video, head singer and pro is really figured tom york on how his childhood impacted his life. long politics tried to head the the

mass you can see and welcome back to the broadcasting around the world from the u. a. in the middle east, still coming to terms with the tribes of nature warmed outside the in what is left of syria, a trail of destruction from all dover to remain yet to georgia to ukraine is being blazed by the defeated by them the hours regime in washington had of donald trump single duration, both chucky and israel have no invaded syria, but it is nothing. yeah. who has taken responsibility for ending the rule of bosher alas, side, finishing the supply routes for a to 11 and, and palestine also invaded by israel given white a one that will most a certainty this christmas i'll give you looks less peaceful than ever in the holy land i wrote it to today is south africa, south dakota, day of reconciliation for the decades of u. s. u. k u. um, deposit i the that south africa, which of course brought the nature of,

i'm genocide in gun as a case to the dying international criminal court. opponents design is a long time campaign for human rights all around the world. roger waters, the legendary pink floyd front man, joins me now from the caribbean. roger, thanks so much for coming back on going underground. i'd rather talk about the sequence that code sequence. i dunno to wish you were here, but you know why we're both here. you've tirelessly supported palestine, palestinians, the un resolutions violated by britain united states, european union. um the israel is it, is it now over for palestine, given the crucial the nation of syria as being defeated as well. again, to find out a way as a, as to months on. so none of us wake up in the morning thinking, oh well, that's better. oh, well, this is all right now. you know, um you were telling me before we went out on about the new purchase of july refugee

camp. and it's, you know, looks like a run by a military airport that's been found in garza and garza. yeah. let's show him about goes to now and i'm talking about cosa? yeah, mainly now. however, it is super important in these moments to stand up to keep standing up. every morning when we wake up, when we, when we, you know, dry our eyes stop weeping for our brothers and sisters in garza and in syria or as well. of course, many people were filled up with the world about hooping and hollering oh, serious freight. let's wait and say wait and see what happens in syria before we uh, jump up and down too much. um but. busy we have to say, is it we what we, we are watching the machinations. so possibly the end of an pie,

the west and then 5 said the mosque is off. we the west are behaving with unbearable brutality towards the press paypals all over the world. mainly i focus my work on palestine and goes is willis continue. my sense is the way the paypal hates it. we hate the brutality of our government. we hate the fact that our governments clearly don't give a big for the geneva conventions or for any kind of a rule of international law, which is something that we know they believed it. why did we think the government's believed in these things? because they told us that they did over and over again. ever since they

ever since 1948, really in the universal declaration of human rights in paris, december, the 10th, 1948. they've been telling us that they care about human rights and then now so that now the mosque is often that because of the genocide that's be perpetrated by these really government. and by this time and i'll couple of months we're mine in the u. k. and obviously the government, the united states and france and germany and holland, i'm blah blah, blah, blah, blah, a shame state. we never believed any of that we've never had. because obviously, if we did believe that, then we would be insisting on the implementation of the i, c, j, we're leaving about the genocide going on and goes a might all with with, with standing on the sidelines of, we're waiving our is riley flags where roaring those little sure,

and that's the human being in palestine is their intention is to slow to remind woman and child so so. so when you wake up in the morning, good feeling. so to get the features, if one does, um, you have to pull yourself together a go, no, i am not a load rush action. neither are you my friend. we are surrounded by brittany, it's bailey, it's a human beings who like us, recognize the color, the name of what's going on. no, it just didn't goes it. but many places in the world and we are standing shoulder to shoulder, were taken to the streets in huge numbers in olympics. it is all over the world to demonstrate our support for a future where international law is applied as

a rogue states. like israel of the united states of america and the united kingdom cannot get away with that. all crimes the world crimes that they are committing day by day by day adult on an article. so this visual tumbles into memories of jude, our friend julian hassan. as being in bell marsh for 4 years and, and all that revolution, the wiki leaks revolution, when suddenly we discovered through to know that a ways to discover the truth about what is actually happening in our lives. and wouldn't it be wonderful action if you were allowed to do your job completely improperly? but if we, if you were allowed to do it with the support of the governing bodies, imagine if we were actually allowed to have a real investigation, for instance,

into 2 things random note rad october the 7th. how, how wonderful would it would be if there was allowed to be an international investigation into what actually happened on october the 7th in south and israel. okay. who did what to whom, how many people, what actually killed whether that was a new rape or that was made and all of those things. but of course the is really government will not allow an investigation and probably made the, with the american government. so that is one thing and the other thing which is a bit closer even closer to home now is, well, actually has been happening in syria. alicia, is, you know what i tell you what is that we'll get into some of that. if you haven't been ongoing underground since before, julian was a release our mutual friend. but since we are both british,

the prime minister associates telling me that it had the crown prosecution service, which we know was responsible for trying to make fake sex claims against julian. the size, the founder with the legs, and he was in cyprus on the base in occupied cypert. so that criteria this week for the past few days. anyway. st. quite a bit of what goes on here con, necessarily be talked about. we can tell the world what you are doing, of course, referring presumably to britain's participation in the genocide didn't casa. what does that make you feel? and as you uh, intimated, because some of the greatest demonstrations by the people against the b, u. k. u as you, um these rather have been in london then in birmingham and drives go in and all over britain against against is right. well, it's probably you should pretty uh, actually and because i watch that on my phone and it was just um, a making

a stump speech. uh, apparently just some, all right, have pest now inside person that does the same well. care stomach is the stop. he doesn't have to stand on a stump. pay is stop or, you know, and these just is not solely it's, i'm happy to read reports all the time. that belt is true of main street major, that his premier shape in the united kingdom is turning about out to be an absolute disaster. and that he may be on seated at any time by the power of public opinion. the sooner the better. because he is an opportunist of the west. wes kind that also his history is pat areias, savory associations with and my 5 and i my 6 and folk, all kinds of stuff that we absolutely do not want in a prime minister in the u. k. well, he was doing in cyprus,

i have no idea. maybe you could maybe explain it to me, but i there are more important things in life. well, it was best buy plays the spy planes. the b is really is rely on. yeah. yeah, that might can uh it has been explaining to us or those of us it follow back, can i? i know you do. he was on the phone last week. the other week. okay, well let you go, there you go. and i've been following his stories, which should be an extremely detail, and i am so ashamed to be an englishman reading his reports of what we have been doing to be complicit. and the genocide is big pepper trades. they didn't, they occupied territories and goes around the west bank in palestine. deeply, deeply ashamed to be an english man under these circumstances so well done, my cannot thank you. but the but you told me earlier about the need to be hopeful

the importance of the fact that so many people around the world believe like you do to this is janice side a. but, you know, i'm going to take it back to you being telling the concert audiences for decades about threats to the afraid of the come being the, the, you know, or the visions of old is actually and george orwell. that day for us. and you being warning about what would happen to palestine, and that seems to have the as a bus. so where is the optimism coming from is coming from a deep well left the truth and love. i have here. i'd carry around with me, but it has to be a deep well, because to find these criminal lunatic. so a trying to destroy the well that way. oh cool is. is a desperate fi at the moment, but and as i keep saying again and again, we all of us, you may actually,

i'm not kind of and julian massage and everybody else. so he's trying to tell the truth about anything we are involved in the next essential battle for the soul of the human race. if the empire wins this battle, then we will do our children and grandchildren and any survivors of any of this stuff in the future. we'll have to live in a well where we just all agree that it's genocide is ok. yeah, sorry, we go to, oh, wrong. we thought of to the 2nd. well, we'll, that we could civilize ourselves and that we could live under uh, under the rule of international law that they, they were rules because we believed in a moral compass, if they win, if the bypass and blane can send the bombers and trumps. and the new loans and

sullivans and the rest of them in washington. and the key is thomas in england. and the for raj is if they win this ex essential battle for the soul of the human rights. we will live in a future where a, you've got a gun. you should shoot anyone who doesn't agree with you. cool. who thinks that they should be universal human rights, like the palestinians do that's all they're asking for is equal rights. but every one who lives between the jordan river and the mediterranean sea, that's all, it's as simple as that. as a quote, civil, religious and political rights for roger roger waters, i'll stop you. the more from the legendary pink floyd front by north of this right, [000:00:00;00]

the russian states never is as tight as i'm one of the most sense community best most i'll send send up the in the 65 to 5 must be the one else calls. question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin mission, the state on the russians cruising and split the ortiz vote net, keeping our video agency roughly all the band on youtube tv services. for what question did you say even twist,

which is the welcome back to going into granite? so we would, as you think, floyd drum and will georgia's or what are you talking about? hoping about one. but of course, what we've been seeing in syria, and i know you flew into syria, i think in the middle of the war to rescue someone. uh, a lot of the people that support palestine. i've been south of raising the end of us, so i didn't syria. and uh these are the same sort of pro palestine people that regurgitated stuff about chemical weapons attacks and the need to a really bombard syria. what do you think get even the problem again,

the media in the nato countries in the vessel states of washington are going hang on a minute. this is the isis the heck. that's flying on the, on my ad most can damascus. we're going to be a little bit careful. maybe even though it's something from i've got this guy. now i don't think i uh, i don't think that shuttle, you know, i think they get involved. right. and starting to have some. yeah. because this is the opportunities to do that. you know, the wicked witch is gone and he's slapped calls to moscow with his tail between his legs. so now we can celebrate, unpacked goodness of freedom has come to the country, watch a pretty serious being occupied since 2013. there is a 1000 american troops stealing the oil. the guy who's about to be at, at the new president of the united states, when public years and years ago and said, we have to stay there in steel,

leo. and i've been doing it ever since. i've been completely open and honest about it is acceptable. i was talking about before the break. we are again, a powerful guides to see it and we're going to steal every thing, but they read this in the well, this web statements. and one of those things is the oil that belongs to the paper of syria. we'll steal it. i'm probably bring down the government. yeah. well, well done. you did bring down the government and you did it by stealing the royal. and by applying economic sanctions to the state have other jobs. they never had a jobs at the end of the day. obviously, a solid might huge mistakes of blogs. i've no idea who a sod was. i know he was a trained ophthalmologist and that it was never meant to be the leader of syria is brother was meant to be the late, and the brother rather inconvenient. they killed himself in

a car crash. that's any reason. bashar assad kaybree didn't plan and now i see that of course people go watch my interview with robert and he have a car as we're gonna watch, ryan to be on line somewhere, may be in the who is we'll be deleted with the asset now living in moscow, we invite them. oh yeah. but yeah, sorry you, as you're saying about the people sharing the deposit. yeah. so let's, let's, let's wait and see what happened and show way. i looked at the map yesterday of what happened between 2 to syria, between 2011, and now and the way that the, uh, the lines, the battle lines have gone back with some photos and back but some point. so let's, let's just wait and see what happens. now the other one does what happens to the codes in ne, syria or, and so on and so on and so forth. as i tell you something that has been happening

and this is gossip. so set, but it's my gosh, and that is, and i'm encouraged by this maybe i shouldn't be. i released something on subset the other day, which is i will release the emails that went back with some thoughts between me and tell me all of the band radio at a time. if you've seen them they, you can, if you want, just go to my subset. does this tell me you will go radio head who walks of stage recently because hecklers were talking about the genocide. yeah. he was heckled by a pro palestinian protest because the off to mass of radio head playing and celebrated in 2070. when i wrote the e mails to tell them your to encourage him to join. the boy caught up essman sanctions movement. i know that for man is right, and he then went on and did the interviews with the routing stone,

where he told he lied about to teach is like true is t unless always we're when you've got, when you have somebody like that, who's news that you might like, or you might respect or own, and you might think they stand for something and that, that there's something in the music that makes you think that they may be, you're trying to tell the truth in some way about things. and then you see the moon in an interview was rolling stone, lying and lying, and his big lie. it was, was that the people in beads refused to have a conversation with him. that's why i publish my emails cuz my emails, so banking have. so i'm a proxy to the media as my books to have the conversation and it goes in print saying that nobody would speak to them. we just read to them from a much less complete poll key part of my boy. and you shouldn't be telling those poor people anyway. what i'm saying is,

i'm encouraged by the fact that certainly lots of people are looking up my subs, stacks right now. so i spend my days deleting the hundreds of new subscribe. now not deleting the subscribers, that hardship location because you have to have a but sign q or for subscribing and for reading the pays because this is what we need to be doing. as we have an opportunity to stand shoulder to shoulder now and rail against the powers that pay and say no blinking no bite. no, trump, we do not accept genocide as a modus operandi, or a random for our future actions on this planet that we the human race. so trying to organize in a way that is beneficial to all of us. will it be if we can see what is, oh,

sorry, sorry to interrupt that the gift? consumable light questions dropped to consume. oh boy, good servant, middle class. so i agree, but it is south africa reconciliation day. and culture is fundamental to the war. and the ability of hollywood culture, television, culture, music, literature, poetry, obviously as being important in conditioning the minds of the nato countries to believe the genocide was okay this year. but then on the other hand, it is, as i said, this of africa reconciliation day. no. and kaz the i didn't the guitars from queen, right. and may is be, do i find matt, it's joe. and i didn't mention it to him, but no one cares that he played sun city with the band queen. and i think we should all be able to maybe read off the names or plates on safety and defiance of nelson mandela's plea. you didn't, you know, it's in general elton john sar elton jones. yeah. and laurie probably no one has. so that's another problem to the fact that we've witness,

genocidal is here. and hollywood, all those actors, the parade in prison and ski in care of that alone who have done towards it. israel and nothing comes of it to do. they swing round in the end as it was now. all those l jump probably supports the anti racist efforts in south africa. now i assume so, or we will, we, those live through the same amount, same bit of history action. and some people have more subject to the propaganda or of the ruling class than others. i think it depends very large. it's depends on joker for you, but it also depends on who your parents were. i was lucky enough to be bo onto very passionate, politically committed parents. my father died killing the nazis or trying to kill them. now it says, i'm the n c a bridge. it they killed in whatever my mother was, was deeply committed to. the predicament of the working clothes in england was made

consequentialism. i'm russell coleman, his buddy. so i grew up with a dead father, which is being a defining factor of my entire life. i understand what it means to be a baby and everybody around you is being killed all the important ones. so when i see those pictures of those children, those babies in garza, i went through nothing, nothing compared to what they've been forced the truth. but i can kind of help bob and put sites with him. so my embassy, i'm a cheap one years old, my empathy remains intact. i so that's why i cannot stand by silence and didn't different, like brian, my or joe on the web. they have different cost and maybe they believe kids style most rac disgusting,

sharing on the boys to go on this by mission. so if it goes so that is really, is can more accurately dropped the bombs on roughly area or whoever it may be that they have to set that they pinpoint it. what is it they call it, do so? as i saw you too are appalled by them till you and your family, if you are in bold and then i feel no ample, who cares the just going to kill every one. so we cause it's hard to point the finger these become because they would, they grew up in, in, um, in families or in an atmosphere when, when he came for an ass about any of that i assume because of how anyone can stand by silent and different now while this genocide is being committed in gaza and the occupied westbank in palestine,

i do not know all i know is that when i wake up in the morning, i have to do something to time guards to you. she and i could talk to you cuz we've had a conversation, i will at least still, you've done something today. roger, you've been given the opportunity to speak your mind and to show how much you can about your all your brothers and sisters, and no layers rates. imagine being brought up in that l. how of rang for eggs? you this and supremacy racial religious supremacy? well, at this, trusting that my spirit to have to grow up here, match and being, and these really do i call imagine it a kind of a bug bite and couldn't is so much that my standing up, you know, me go play,

for instance, city and leave a, my friend, a nightstand, you know, run it, but now lives in germany where anyway, it doesn't matter. it doesn't really match it. but we have to unite, there are billions of a stair, a much, many, many more robust than there are of that. because basically they are the ruling classes and the acolytes and there are a lot more of the classes that do not grow the narrow of ruling classes. but we have to go on being vocal. we have to go on taking to the straits. we have to go on and put testing, we have to go on having an open mind. we have to go on, but believing, intrusive love, that was 2 words essential to all mantra. and you know, bustle, schumann writes, that is the most important platform upon which we've sent. roger was,

as you've tirelessly promoted the course of human rights for hundreds and thousands of people in the past couple of years. thank you. thank you. action has been a pleasure as always, and that's after the show of continued condolences to the surviving u. k. u. s. u, i'm genocide here in this region. will to, to hollywood propaganda on saturday show with an oscar nominated screenwriter who funded the black panthers until then keep in touch with all that social media and it's nonsense, a new, a country and i to a channel going underground tv on rubble. the. com to let you know that besides the going under grantees have the, the hello and welcome to cross the full force here. we discussed some real in

the, in the lot of merit put more in this, that russia will list itself, restrictions on the weapons deployment. if the u. s. places intermediate range missiles anywhere in the world, those are maybe in the middle. so they continue to impose their sleep. a rooms underway community which they change time after time twisting them as they see fit . but in fact, there is only one stable room. there are no rooms for those who do that. for those who think they are in charge of the whole world. also a head on the program, cnn admits to possibly releasing us fake reports as it's corresponding comes under fire for allegedly staging the filament release of