send, that's almost goldman. we have never experienced such a tax. and now town not even during the 1992 invasion. so i heard stories from my grandparents about those events as i was born after that of taxes, but there was no destruction and brutality on that scale that we witnessed was in 1993 in 1996 in 2006. but there has been no such scale of aggression people here which uses relative to liberty system to destroy the cities culture, with fishing and tourism sense, which ties economy. but the boats are heading out to sea once more. i simple act of defiance. that's fisherman seek of attempts and normality to protect the idea. it's, this is the so we need for all the entire southern evidence. i know when roger walker is, isn't there for you, you can be sure he speaks his mind. catch the rock legend right ahead on going under brian, talking the british government stumps from the gals of war. his thoughts on video head singer. i'm for, it was really figured tom york and how his childhood impacted his lifetime politics

or friday. the ask you can see and welcome back to going under the broadcasting around the world from the u. a. in the middle east. still coming to terms with the tribes of nature alarmed outside the in what is left of syria, a trail of destruction from all dover to remain yet to georgia. do ukraine is being blazed by the defeated by the hours regime in washington ahead of donald trump single duration. both chucky and israel have no invaded syria, but it is nothing. yeah. who has taken responsibility for ending the rule of bosher

alongside finishing the supply routes for a to 11 and and palestine also invaded by israel given white a war. now as a certainty, this christmas i could be, looks less peaceful than ever in the holy land. i wrote it to today is south africa, the south dakota day of reconciliation after the decades of u. s. u. k u, i'm deposit i the that south africa, which of course brought the nature of, i'm genocide in gun as a case to the dying international criminal court. opponents design is a long time campaign for human rights all around the world. roger waters, the legendary pink floyd front man, joins me now from the caribbean as well. jet tags. so what you're going back on going under gotten, i'd rather talk about the sequence that code sequence. i dunno to wish you were here, but you know why we're both here. you've tirelessly supported palestine, palestinians, the un resolutions violated by britain united states, the urban union. um the israel is it. is it now over for palestine given the

crucial the nation of syria as being defeated? so again, i find out a way as a, as the months unfold. none of us wake up in the morning thinking, oh well, that's better. oh, well, this is all right now. you know, um, you were telling me before we went out on about the new page as of july, a refugee camp and it's a, you know, looks like a run by a military airport. there's been found in garza and garza, yeah, it's showing about goes to now and i'm talking about cosa yeah. mainly now. however, it is super important in these moments to stand up to keep standing up. every morning when we wake up, when we, when we, you know, dry, our eyes stop weeping for our brothers and sisters in garza and in syria are as

well though of course, many people are all over the world, our hooping and hollering oh sir, is freight? let's wait and see, wait and see what happens in syria before we jump up and down too much of the. but we have to say that we are what we we are watching the machinations. so possibly the end of an pie, the west, and then 5 said the mosque is off as we the west are behaving with unbearable brutality towards the press peoples all over the world by new i 5, cuz by what on palestine and garza is willis, continue my sense is the way the paypal patriot. we hate the brutality of our government. we hate the fact that our government clearly don't

give a big for the geneva conventions or for any kind of a rule of international law, which is something that we still, they believed. and why did we think the government's believed in these things? because they told us that they did over and over again. ever since they ever since 1948, really in the universal declaration of human rights in paris, december, the 10th, 1948. they've been telling us that they care about human rights and they now says that now the mosque is all from that because of the genocide that's being perpetrated by these randy government. and by this time and i'll compliments were mine in the u. k. um and obviously the government, the united states and france and germany and holland and blah blah, blah, blah, blah, same state. we never believed any of that. we'd never have because obviously if we

did believe that, then we would be insisting on the implementation of the i c. j. we're looking at about the genocide going on in gus. i went off with with standing on the sidelines . so we're waiving our is riley flags somewhere roaring those little sure. and that's really human being in palestine is their intention is to slow to remind woman and child so so. so when you wake up in the morning, good feeling sure to get the features. if one does, you have to pull yourself together a go. no, i am not allowed rush as she neither are you my friend. we are surrounded by brittany, it's bailey, it's a human beings who like us, recognize the cultural days of what's going on. know it just

in gossip, but many places in the world. and we are standing shoulder to shoulder. we have taken to the streets in huge numbers in the olympics. it is all over the world to demonstrate our support for a future where international law is applied as a rogue states, like israel and the united states of america and the united kingdom cannot get away with that wall crimes the bull crimes that they are committing day by day, by day adult, on and on. so this visual tumbles into memories of jude, our friend julian hassan, as being bell marsh full of years and, and all that revolution. the wiki leaks revolution. when suddenly we discovered through to know that a ways to discover the truth about what is actually happening in our lives.

and wouldn't it be wonderful action if you were allowed to do your job completely improperly? but if we, if you were allowed to do it with the support of the governing bodies, imagine if we were actually allowed to have a real investigation, for instance, into 2 things round the note rad october, the 7th. how, how wonderful would it would be if there was allowed to be an international investigation into what actually happened on october the 7th in south and israel. okay. who did what to whom, how many people, what actually killed whether that was a new rape or that was made and all of those things. but of course, is really government will not allow an investigation and probably made the, with the american government. so that's one thing. and the other thing which is

a big close even closer to home now is, well, actually has been happening in syria. alicia, is, you know, what i tell you what is your, what is that we'll get into some of that. if you haven't been ongoing underground since before, julian was a release a mutual friend. but since we are both british, the prime minister, so keeps telling me that it had the crown prosecution service, which we know was responsible for trying to make fake sex claims against julian, the size, the founder with the legs. and he was in cyprus on the base in occupied cypert to that criteria this week for the past few days. anyway. st. quite a bit of what goes on here con, necessarily be talked about. we can tell the world what you're doing. of course, referring presumably to britain's participation in the genocide didn't casa. what does that make you feel? and as you uh, intimated,

because some of the grades as demonstrations by the people against the u. k. u as you um does read have been in london and in birmingham and guys go in and all over britain against the against is right. well, it's probably you should pretty uh, actually it because i watch that on my phone and it was kissed um and making a stump speech. uh, apparently it says some. all right, if pass now inside person that does the same well. your stomach is the stop. he doesn't have to stand on a stump, p is dop, this is to, you know, and these just is not solely it's, i'm happy to read reports all the time. that belt is true of main street major, that his premier shape in the united kingdom is turning about out to be an absolute disaster. and that he may be on seated at any time by the power public opinion. the

sooner the better. because he is an opportunist of the west, west kind at all. so his history is pat areias, savory associations with and my 5 and i my 6 and folk, all kinds of stuff that we absolutely do not want in a prime minister in the u. k. well, he was doing in cyprus, i have no idea. maybe you could maybe explain it to me, but i there are more important things in life. well there was, this guy plays the spy planes that the is really, is rely on. yeah. yeah, that might can uh, just being explaining to us or those of us it follow back, can i? i know you do cuz he was on the phone last week the other week. okay, well let you go, there you go. and i've been following his stories, which should be extremely detailed, and i am so ashamed to be an englishman reading his reports of what we have been

doing to be complicit in the genocide is being perpetrated. they'll comply to x rays and goes around the west bank in palestine. deeply, deeply ashamed to be an englishman under these circumstances, so well done, my cannot thank you. but the but you were talking earlier about the need to be helpful. the importance of the fact that so many people around the world believe like you do this is janice side a. but you know, i'm going to take it back to you being telling the concert audiences for decades about threats to the afraid of. and the come being a, you know, with the visions of old is actually and jo, jo, well, not a us. and you being warning about what would happen to palestine and that seems to have gas bus. so where is the optimism coming from? is coming from a deep well of truth and love. i have here. i'd carry

around with me, but it has to be a deep well. because to find these criminal lunatic. so a trying to destroy the, well, we'll go is, is a desperate fi at the moment. but and as i keep saying again and again, we all of us, you may actually, i'm not kind of and julian massage and everybody else who is trying to tell the truth about anything. we are involved in the next essential battle for the soul of space. human race, if the empire wins this battle, then we will do our children and grandchildren and any survivors of any of this stuff in the future. we'll have to live in a well where we've just all agree that it's genocide is ok. yeah, sorry we go to oh,

wrong we thought of to the 2nd well that we could civilize ourselves and that we could live under uh under the rule of international law that they, they were rules because we believed in a moral compass if they, when, if the bikes on some clinton's in the bottom, is and trumps, and up a new lens and sullivans and the rest of them in washington. and the key is thomas in england. and the for raj is if they win this ex essential battle for the soul of the human rights. we will live in a future where you've got a gun. you should shoot anyone who doesn't agree with you or who thinks that they should be universal human rights like the palestinians do that's all they're asking for is equal rights, but every one who lives between the jordan river and the mediterranean sea,

that's all. it's as simple as that as a quote, civil, religious and political rights, roger roger waters, i'll stop you that more from the legendary pink floyd front. then up to this, right, the

the welcome back to going into granite. so we would, as you think, floyd drum and will georgia's what are you talking about? hoping about one. but of course, what we've been seeing in syria, and i know you flew into syria, i think in the middle of the war to rescue someone. uh, a lot of the people that simple a palestine i've been setup for aging the end of us, i didn't syria. and these are the same sort of pro palestine people that regurgitated stuff about chemical weapons attacks and the need to a really bombard syria. what do you think get even the propaganda media in the nato countries and the vessel states of washington are going hang on a minute. this is the isis the heck. that's flying on the, on my ad most can damascus. we're going to be

a little bit careful. maybe even though it's something from i've got this guy. no, i don't think they. uh, i don't think that that shuttle, you know, i think that getting browser are starting to have some. yeah, because this is the opportunities to do that. you know, the way could wait, she's gone and he's slapped calls to must go with his style between his legs. so now we can celebrate, unpacked goodness of freedom has come to the country, watch a pretty serious being occupied since 2013. there is a 1000 american troops stealing the oil. the guy who's about to be at, at the new president of united states. when public years and years ago and said, we have to stay there in steal leo, and i've been doing it ever since. i've been completely open and honest about it. it's exactly what was talking about before the break. we are again,

a powerful guides to see it and we're going to steal every thing that they read this in the well, this web statement. and one of those things is the oil that belongs to the paper of syria. we'll steal it. i'm probably bring down the government. yeah, well, well done. you did bring down the government and you did it by stealing the royal and by applying economic sanctions to the state have other jobs. they never had a jobs at the end of the day. obviously a solid might huge mistakes of blogs. i've no idea who a sod was. i know he was a trained ophthalmologist and that it was never meant to be the leader of syria is brother was meant to be the late and the brother rather inconvenient. they killed himself in a car crash. that's any reason. bashar assad kaybree didn't plan. and now i see that of course people go watch my interview with robert and he have

a car as we're gonna watch. ryan to be on line somewhere. may be in the who is we'll be deleted with the asset now living in moscow. we invite them. oh yeah. but yeah, sorry you, as you're saying about the people sharing the end of us that yeah. so let's, let's, let's wait and see what happened. the show way, i looked at the map yesterday of what happened between 2 to syria, between 2011, and now and the way that the, uh, the lines, the battle lines have gone back with some photos and back with some photos. so let's, let's just wait and see what happens. now the other one does what happens to the codes in north a, syria or, and so on and so on and so forth. as i tell you something that has been happening and this is gossip. so set, but it's my gosh, and that is, and i'm encouraged by this maybe i shouldn't be. i released something on subset the other day, which is i released the emails that went back with some poets between me and tell

me all of the band radio at a time. if you've seen them they, you can, if you want, just go to my subset. does this tell me you will go radio head who walks of stage recently, because heckler's we're talking about the genocide. yeah. he was heckled by a pro palestinian protest because the off to mass of radio head playing and celebrated in 2070. when i wrote the e mails to tell them your to encourage him to join the boy taught best man sanctions movement. i know that for man is right, and he then went on and did the interviews with the routing stone, where he told he lied about it. he just lost it through his tea. and that's always weird when you've got, when you have somebody like that, who's news that you might like, or you might respect or own. and you might think they stand for something and that,

that there's something in the music that makes you think that they may be, you're trying to tell the truth in some way about things. and then you see them in, in an interview with them rolling stone, lying and lying. and his big lie was, was the people in b d. s refused to have a conversation with him. that's why i publish my emails cuz my emails. so banking have as i'm a proxy, so the media as my books to have the conversation and it goes in print saying that nobody would speak to them. we just read them from a much less complete poll key part of my boy. and you shouldn't be telling those poor people anyway. well, i'm saying is, i'm encouraged by the fact that certainly lots of people are looking up my sub stack big that. so i spend my days deleting the hundreds of new subscribe. now not

deleting the subscribers. the notification because you have to have seen a sign queue or for subscribing and for reading the pays because this is what we need to be doing. as we have an opportunity to stand shoulder to shoulder now and rail against the powers that pay and say no, lincoln no, but no trump, we do not accept genocide as a modus operandi. oh for random, for our future actions on this planet that we the human race. so trying to organize in a way that is beneficial to all of us. will it be if we can see what is oh, sorry. sorry to interrupt that. gabriel provide you a gift card to avoid questions throughout to consume. oh boy, good servant, middle class. so i agree, but it is south africa reconciliation day. and culture is fundamental to the war

and the ability of hollywood culture, television, culture, music, literature, poetry, obviously as being important in conditioning the minds of the nato countries to believe the genocide was okay this year. uh. but then on the other hand, it is, as i said, the south africa reconciliation day. no, and k as the david guitars from queen ryan may as be do i find matt? it's joe. and i didn't mention it to him, but no one cares that he played sun city with the bad queen. and i think we should all be able to maybe read off the names who plates on city in defiance of nelson mandela's. please. sorry you didn't, did you know it's internal elton john sar? elton jones. yeah. and laurie probably no one has. so that's another problem to the fact that we've witness. genocidal is here. and hollywood all those actors. the parade into the lensky in key of that alone. who have done towards it,

israel and nothing comes of it to give a swing round in the end as it was now, all those they'll jump probably simple. it's a n t racist efforts in south africa. now i assume so as we will, we both live through the same amount, same bit of history action, and some people have more subject to the propaganda or of the ruling class than others. i think it depends very largely, it's depends on job or for you, but it also depends on who your parents were. i was lucky enough to be bo onto very passionate, politically committed parents. my father died killing the nazis or trying to kill them. now it says i'm the and see a bridge it they killed in about a my mother was was deeply committed to the predicament of the working clothes in england was made consequentialism. i'm ready to come and his buddy. so i grew up with a dead father, which is being a defining factor of my entire life. i understand what it means to

be a baby, and everybody around you is being killed, all the important ones. so when i see those pictures of those children, those babies in garza, i went through nothing, nothing compared to what they've been forced the truth, but i kind of know about and put side switzer. so my m c m, i c one years old, my embassy remains intact. i so that's why i cannot stand by silence and didn't different, like brian, my or joe on the web. they have different cost and maybe they believe kids style. most rank disgusting. sharing on the boys to go on this by mission. so if it goes that so that is really is can more accurately drop the bombs on roughly area or whoever it may be that they've decided that they

pinpoint it. what is it they call it? that is how, as i saw you to your apartment until you and your family, if you are in the boat and then i feel no ample, who cares the just going to kill every one. so we cause it's hard to point the finger these become because they were, they grew up in, in, um, in families. so in an atmosphere, when nobody came to an ass about any of that, i assume because how anyone can stand by silent and different now while this genocide is being committed in gaza and the occupied westbank in palestine, i do not know. all i know is that when i wake up in the morning, i have to do something to time, gods to you. she and i can talk to you cuz we've had a conversation,

i will at least fill. you've done a something today. roger, you've been given the opportunity to speak your mind and to show how much you can about your all your brothers and sisters absolutely is res. imagine being brought up in that l. how right for eggs you this and supremacy racial religious supremacy? well, at this costing that must be a to have to grow up in a match in bathing. and these really do i call imagine it a time a about by including a some of the my standing up. you know, me go play, for instance, city and leave a my friend a nightstand and run it. but now lives in germany where anyway, it doesn't matter. it doesn't really matter. but we have to unite. there are

billions of a stair, a much, many, many more robust than there are of that. because basically they are the ruling classes and the acolytes and there are a lot more of the classes that do not grow. then there are all ruling classes. but we have to go on being vocal. we have to go on taking to the straits. we have to go on and put testing, we have to go on having an open mind. we have to go on, but believing intrusive love those 2 words essential to all mantra and you know, bustle, schumann writes, that is the most important platform. upon which we'll said roger was, as you've tirelessly promoted the course of human rights for hundreds and thousands of people in the past couple of years. thank you. thank you. action has been

a pleasure as always, and that's after the show continued condolences to the surviving u. k. u. s. and you, i'm genocide here in this region will to, to hollywood propaganda on saturday show with an oscar nominated screenwriter who funded the black panthers until then keep in touch with all that social media and it's nonsense abuto country and i to a channel going underground tv on mobile dot com to let you know that besides going under warranties, have the, the hello and welcome to across the full board. here we discussed some we'll in the

to many braces for early elections also trying to show loses a confident but he himself for good and respond to the governments. covenants and collapsing last month the russian president. and what was the last google list itself, restrictions on weapons deployments, if they do with places intermediate range, myself any. what in the world are, those are the ideas of what can be the role. so they continue to impose their suki rooms and the way communities which they change time after time twisting them as they see fit. but in fact, there is only one stable room. there are no rooms for those who do that. for those who think they are in charge of the whole will a new libya.