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we have 2 ways to service the the i'm action redundancy and we'll get back to going underground rule cussing around the world in the u. a. in exactly a months time president trump will, once again will in the white house, that's if the bite and the ministration hasn't destroyed the planet by then. there are huge expectations riding on the 2nd. trump, administration of foreign policy over the whole will peace, the end of the military, industrial complex, economic stability. and perhaps most importantly, and then to systemic censorship with the renewing of the 1st amendment to some free speech. and the democracy is the benchmark that pays the way for everything else. but you won't find much free speech in hollywood while trump was a celebrity before ever dipping his goes into politics. much of the hollywood
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entertainment deletes tried and will continue to try to convince the american public to vote against them. so if you're thinking of headings of the cinema, there's christmas expect receive both over and supplemental messaging feeding you are false narrative and political bias. someone who agrees as an oscar nominated screen write it down. journalist who was kicked out of all the wood, which assignment is the seo emeritus of the political commentary website. the j media and his latest book is american refugees beyond old story of the mass migration from blue to red state to joins me now from nashville in tennessee. was your thanks so much for coming on as an oscar nominated the screen right to do you think trump may return the united states 1st amendment of the catastrophe of censorship, but on the new a liberal democratic party censorship. oh very much so you know, where is that alarms the left in the country a great deal because like the left in most countries they don't really like free speech. but the i, you know,
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is alliance with the law. most is of course, pretty central. if it is because musket opened up twitter into x, y more and now they are awfully well. just say do see what happens because the lift is now fully x to move this guy where i haven't been because stop advertising, stop advertising. and roger, you mentioned the left, and i've tried to say the left is a kind of nebulous term now. i mean, do you don't think the right just like built in chombo ring, loved the junior, the hollywood, and we'd, they'd be with you. i mean, they'd recognize business mccarthyism and they'd be full of the relative free speech that he learned most because given them on x off to these years of censorship. i mean, you yourself have been sense it you know, it's, it's, it is just to use a very interesting thing and how it works. i mean, i, the people use the word castle of a lot and i think is more accurate. one,
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you can sense or people buy suddenly or you're going to the bottom of the river, where you watch on the top of the outer, isn't it? you look the next day and you're on page 34. this happens to everybody who is in disagreement with certain people. now that is, you know, we're going through a moment right now. incredible change in the united states because all of a sudden there were a lot of people who were cancelling people like me for years and who are now totally afraid to do that because they yes, i have to be cancel their sales but actually worse and yeah, so they were afraid to lose their jobs. i mean, everything. yeah. i actually am old enough to remember the days of the old hollywood can very well. in fact,
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i knew members of the few weeks that at and you know, they were both of them pretty well. yeah. communistic are socialistic in some way. but they were also kinda nice people and good people, everything they were cancelling. anybody else is doing that kind of stuff they believed in free though they believed in free left is different. it's not the same kind of thing. and i don't think it has much to do with it. you know, i do list a guy, you know, g is, is a big power trip to the control of money and power and not so much. i mean, i, i also, i think it's a game of obama that it was, it really about the left is of as renew it. in the old days, it is about, you know, who's in charge of who's got the money and who's running the show. and therefore they, they had to cancel people who, who were saying, hey, what are you doing? yeah, your sound is a bit echo e, as in whether you're in an echo chamber as far as obama is concerned. daily. the
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left, as i said, was a nebulous term. i mean, perhaps it was that old left as you say, the communist of that time. and the, it's somehow mutated into this identity area. and way of looking at things. it's quite amazing given that, you know, people like talk a call, so love your new book and endorsed it that you at once donated money to the black panthers or do you think the black panthers would have gone to nashville and left hollywood to? i mean, they, they wanted, they wanted to embrace the working classes of america. and your book, refugees, is clearly very conscious of the importance of the working classes in the united states who have been forgotten by those relates in hollywood to oh, you know, there has been, you know, everybody talks about sex change operations. but the real page 6 change of ration in america was between the republicans is address because in the old
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days, in fact, most of my life is democrats, where the body of the working class, and now it's flipped completely. it's a fascinating phenomena. i think the castle, why a lot of people like me lift california because are, you know, the, the hip hop for see top level has gone up so high. it was all these rich people driving around it and mercedes and tests was it, you know, and it was, they were there was espouse, they all these ideals that what came from a different here. so it became almost like kind of kate, i mean, at the same time you had all the homelessness growing in the l. a in san francisco . so here looking around and there always people zooming by, advancing cars. and there's a power of the people say, oh i,
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the people are industries, the whole thing became, you know, so strange as i don't know how to add, you know, to this day, i don't know what actually created that moment that it started to slip away into something something very different. and oh well now we have this up here as i think it's going to change again. so i don't know. i mean it's just the getting, i mean, but even just be getting things are happening very rapidly. yeah. but do you think you hear in utah and i've always feel for the black panthers would recognize exactly what you're saying. they'd recognize what you're saying. i mean, i don't know whether they devote a trump, but it's ironic that the old left recognizes what you're saying in the, in your books and your work as well. and you know, as is they all know and not to deep down the, the, there's
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a way too far. and so there is, is, there is a culture of fear right now on the left of this country of what about retribution by truck. now i just bet there is not going to be as much retribution as a fear, but there, but there are few of retribution is sort of parallel to what they did, which was really bad. they use the law in ways it had never been use this got to me before i leave that in my life. so i and they are is and they know so is this, they know it, they're going well when would you be in big trouble? isn't that right now, isn't necessary to stop that happening again. i mean, last time trump didn't onto the goals of useable just to look up the crooked hillary, isn't it in the trump this time around to the end of things that are well
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actually on the american anti constitutional? i mean, i know you're laughing about it, but obviously the 1st amendment is something very serious. this is the 1st amendment is a matter. if there were no 1st amendment, there would be no, there is a way we knowing. and the way people have hopes for, i mean, otherwise we're not different from any other country. childhood. so is it it, but there's a body is all this and that is when you're ready for seeing this and where you are forcing, what happened? to what extent you are you vengeful? i mean it's a very fine line to what, what does the funny things about a truck that people don't realize? if you look back at his 1st administration, it was pretty much, it was centrist precedent, or he was not really radical. you want to shut the border,
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but every country in the world is just border. but yeah, it is. i love your does and you know, europe is dying dishes born into, i mean it's just normal because you can only take so many people coming in and you know, i, me thereby has issues with that. i mean everywhere is, is you are that, i mean it's not. so it is, it's a strange situation because always people who are hearing, oh, he's gonna kill us all because of this, but he's not. i mean, now that said there, there are people on the fringes of the terrible things. one of those be dr. after the voucher you who is fortunately or the is 8 year old, what do you do to someone who has though i don't know, you probably need to present yourself for as last 6 months or so. the as, as you know, this ends as your industrial complex still exists before the inauguration. so soon
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as we talk about file g, when this goes up on youtube, and by google, well know what, what might happen hollywood? those specifically can, i mean, generate, it's a global phenomenon and in terms of soft power and hollywood is clearly spreading some kind of nebulous, strange message to everyone around the world. uh, do you think anything can be done about freeing that up so that movies are made about many different subjects, including the ones that are exist making at the moment, but all different types i think about that always as well. you know, there are different things. the problems in it, and what are the irony uses that hollywood destroying itself by its vig bias, you know, stupid kind of viewpoints. on the other hand, hollywood was due to die anyway. unfortunately, in this area where i am talking to you from nashville to do by uh,
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i is not that big a deal really? oh, the only part, the only partners being on this program i should say from nashville. yeah, right. on the other hand, you know, we live in the world where it's the politics of the last 5 minutes. and every everybody's head is spinning tacitly where no one has the time to sit down and watch a movie anymore. a visa or something bad for the different here or have a certain way. i mean, if the godfather or some great movie were made today, you know, he's there cause that, but if a great movie were made today, when people realize it a 100 percent. sure. it really well they want someone is they watch them on streaming platforms in fan is but you mentioned the godfather and um,
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actually uh he has a full mouth just me. i think color at the moment. but uh, is it the question of clause they can only understand characters, not like your film, the big fix i think was the 1st what i told of you was they don't really understand the clause is that the problem may think in terms of an individual and their identity is that there's, there's a problem between these essentially. yeah, no, good, good, very good question. and i think the answer is not well, but it, but i, you know, that problem is, is very much there. but the medium still has to have support. so these are 2 different issues. they are tut benny. yes, each other plus what has happened at hollywood for quite some time now? is that in the big budget movies they're being made for?
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try me there. it says china has had a because of their population. they've gotten a veto over the contents of hollywood movies, which is crazy. and the, you know, even, even in the recent tom cruise movie, you know, the top, the real, the re major of the top good. you can, it doesn't say who the bill is. army is there friday? is that okay roger? well, he will get back to this and by to i'll stop you. that will offer me the oscar nominated screenwriter and c o, and there is a page i need your after this break the the,
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[000:00:00;00] the, the welcome back to going on the right, i'm still here with the oscar nominated screen, roger and c o. and there is a peach in media road assignment. roger in part one, i think it's a new background now. roger, you're talking about how movies have to satisfy chinese demo and you think in relation to claus,
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do you think china would one clause is the dimensions of characters in the infield, given that it's a kind of call me this? uh no, i think that the what china cares about is um they look good in the movies so that the village does not say. and so that the good guy doesn't attack the chinese. that's what they're very concerned with, especially of action movies. you know, they actually movies the spider man or whoever is after the, after the bad guy. right. so they don't want a bad guys to do with try a best. the bad guy. that's a good guy. so the, that's what it, that's the, the working class question is, you know, that's the, this trying to care about. the word says may more, i think. yeah, we have, i mean, that would be a large ninety's. they would say they definitely do we, we were talking about a trump, of course,
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in relation to retribution. but i noticed you tweeted recently on x about, i'll give you a be the swamp creatures returning in this guy's under a new trump administration. what? well, have you guard against george soros, his old friend scope dissent as the new treasury secretary and is that in indication of some of the fee is many trump support does have as well. yes. uh the other hand, you know, it's a wait and see situation. i mean, um, you know, as a, this guy is obviously, this is obviously, yeah, you've experienced a hedge fund manager who knows the stock market and everybody cares. and, and truck really likes to stock market high and you know, i didn't know i'm, yeah, i like the stock market. i'd be disappointed my life have money was back market. so
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it's, it's, it's not, it's not a simple situation, but there's a lot of good sharing going on right now, among people in america because of a, you know, no home. nobody can ever be satisfied. everybody has to go. but, but where is it, where in the world, the moment of you know, why not wait and see a little bit how this plays out, what are the st, the progress numbers of up very high as of all of it, the highest they've ever been. and this is an indication of the most people think she's been a pretty good job of the transition. and so they don't know how to do that. i mean, i've been to tennessee and i've seen the levels of poverty in the states. i, they, they show me, i think they shall get anyone visiting from abroad. i mean it's levels of developing will type of poverty in parts of tennessee and those people, many of whom voted for trump expect change, don't they?
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they expect in this time around to drain the swamp, not to fuel it like you did last time. oh yeah, no, they do expect that and, but it, you know, i have bad news for them and bad news, my truck not everything using the control of one man here who is even the president united states. it's just not this. that's if you look the, i mean, you know, only god has that guy control. and so, you know, they have, people have to be realistic about these. i agree with you that there is probably not just in tennessee but all over the united states. that, you know, is 3rd world level it's, it's horrible to see. in fact, it's worse in places like california where you would expect because it's the golden state. and so many people are visiting it is that it wouldn't exist at all,
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but it's there in space. so you know, to you, it's been a long, long struggle in this country to ga night those days and right, you know, it is frankly, much easier at a place like do by which is really small and where there is a oil. well, and everybody can, you know, maybe the united states has the money. it's just distribution, isn't it? yeah, it is. but you know, good question is whether you want a state to their store it or you want it to be distributed through businesses and the state distributed. it tends to, well, if you look at history attempts to get really evil. yeah, well i mean, well, particularly don't hear about, you know, introducing communism immediately to the united states. i was talking about the levels of perceive corruption in the beltway, and on k street in dc with your impoverishing americans. o d o you written about
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this in your movies avenue. back tonight is 78 is what they've getting. yeah. we don't really see as many films about that corporate corruption now. it. yeah, absolutely true. i mean, and, and it will be specially to see the degree that can be formed out, you know, what, i think the most important thing to come out of the, the travel industry she's as of now is the beginning is the teaming up of, of eli musk and, and the very colorado swami uh, i know, be very pretty well, uh, in this, uh, uh, you know, in the, in their dogs program to cut corporate it wasted in the government because wasted in the government is directly tied to the corruption you're talking about. i mean, it could be port it's, i mean when you start to know politicians at a high level of it just i have them started to build them later in my life. when i was younger, i didn't know they were really,
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i do just segments on television. use the, the ties to corruption and politicians are so intimate, it's, and it's almost like you have to, you know, bomb is to take it out and we'll see what must skin around it. swami can do because it's a new, very new approach. and it's a 1st new thing and become a log in american politics. and so long. do you think any of those celebrities, the promise to emigrate? if trump was elected beginning to understand the class dimension, why? people of color voted for trump in increasing numbers. why? the people that would be left behind by the dnc. yeah. why is that? that was the reason i know a few of those libraries, personally from my hollywood days. there besides being monumental hypocrites. because it, you know, they're literally like busy and is the same time is they're complaining about
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what's happening is that the, i would say if 10 percent of them stay 4 countries, i'd be amazed. and in reality the, that venue were leaving. they're just well known and you read about them on the x or whatever, but there's not, and they don't add up to a lot of people. i know ellen degenerate has, has moved to the cost was okay. big deal in britain and how long digit is a is called to be in a movie and los angeles. you just get so the private jet goes to los angeles. there is no, it is no sacrifice involved in this, in all our international audience with no, she is, but apparently she's some tool coast who was i think auntie on the adoption was but also in the, in television before who knows? no one's ever heard of m s n b c, i have it. but of course with a lot of these was it may be too late with
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a lot of them. the embrace power for power. i'd say they were never really on any kind of idea of left and they'll just bag, like i understand some on television are some networks a, you know, they're going up tomorrow a logo to pray to for forgiveness from the drum. yes. uh yeah. i to well, you know, you could go to a worse place, you know, the food is good. no. other way. it is good. it's not since you pay twice because no one r f k junior said the major time r s k junior says the food is terrible to um, but any way i can we, can we not expect any russian agent uh stuff. i mean, i know just tools he gathered overseeing the ca, she's come under a huge amount of the usual propaganda that we followed after russia gate would subside a little. this still repeating the lies against, uh uh, can we expect more of these, um,
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fake russian dossiers. and everyone associated with donald trump is secretly working, providing me a person, a. yeah, probably a true a few because i can, i have is much power because they really blew it on the 1st one with the, with the big rush, hopes thing and i think virtually everybody knows that was a fro it. so, you know, once you pull something off like that and then you blow it, you can't it, they'll go back to it. i mean, watching the hearings of, uh, tulsa gab, it'll be interesting because i, i have a project that she'll do very well because she is a smart cookie and she knows how to handle or sell for a television. but the, yeah, they'll come back to it. but it is not going to be very powerful because they've already done it and they've already blue circle. so, you know, people know, i mean, you do, the great thing about what's happening in america today is the, all mainstream me is, does it, darn it nobody,
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nobody believes or not even themselves. so, you know, it's in order to pull off. i oh, they're really a rush of age, a, b s. you have to have that kind of media power behind you. wish they had the beginning, but they all have now. and just finally, i mean obviously war and peace has been so much war under biden harris. how seriously and you know, people that are close to trump? i know tucker carlson, loved your book and it's a good cause and says they were lobbies full of thing was on american administrations. can we expect trump to actually seek peace around the world as opposed to what bible has done, or will it be pressured by the military industrial complex you can trust you have to do with this thing about trump is the, you know, the, the election negatives. people have a bad truck, the new certainly
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a brag or if you though, you know, like brighthurt's of then you won't lie a truck. but the, but the thing about trump is it. and we notice from this 1st term and you see it is compared to 90 percent of the policy issues. the guy does what he says is good to as you know, he's already rich. he's already the most famous person on the planet. what does he have to get? what does he have to gain by uh, not going over to the military, industrial complex. absolutely nothing, but there is a good news with it for that same top collection truck. that is, trump is a real believer in the stronger military in order to have fees. he's one of these bees really straight guys and beds. uh, so they'll be spending money on a gun. and so that's for sure there won't be any peace dividend or infrastructure in the united states. the kind of infrastructure you write about in your work res. uh, i think you get a point there. yeah, i'm more that's
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a more worst employee. that some who i see, i mean, they're concerned about it, but up the, you know, he does really believe is, you know, a strong military ed and he's also getting rid of all the work stuff in the military. thank god. i mean, that was really ridiculous. so, but uh, you know, the, the extra money for infrastructure, you know, they, they're going to be finding that, especially with all across kind of going on is. so i don't exactly figure unless he's right, that a energy bul nearby and stays, can solve it all. but um, well, you know, as we say as bad as levels of l i c roger assignment. thank you. as you're welcome, that's it for the show. i'll continue condolences to those very by u. k. you as you, i'm jen is, i didn't guys, this is plumbing of lebanon, iraq given syria and iran will be back for the final episode of the season on
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