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have headings of the sentiment as christmas expect receive both over time. subliminal messaging, feeding you are false narrative and political bias. someone who agrees as an oscar nominated screen write it to a journalist who was kicked out of all the wood. which assignment is the seo emeritus of the political commentary. website p. j. media, and his latest book is american refugees beyond told story of the mass migration from blue to red state to joins me now from nashville and tennessee. well sure, thanks so much for coming on as an oscar nominated the screen right to do you think trump may returned the united states 1st amendment of the catastrophe of censorship and the new a liberal democrat party censorship? oh very much so i, you know, it is in that that alarms the left in our country a great deal because like the left in most countries they don't really like free speech. but the, i, you know, there's alliance with the law. most is of course, pretty central to this because my school opened up twitter into x my blood and
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now they are awfully oh, do they do see what happens because the left is now flee x to blue sky where i haven't been because stop advertising, stop advertising. and roger, you mentioned the left, and i've tried to say the left is a kind of nebulous term now. i mean, do you don't think the right just like built in trombone ring loud, the junior, the hollywood and we'd, they'd be with you. i mean, they'd recognize business mccarthyism and they'd be full of the relative free speech that he learned most given them on x off to these years of censorship. i mean, you yourself have been sense it you know, it's, it's, it says to use a very interesting thing and how it works. i mean, i, the people use the word castle and i think it's more accurate. one, you can sense or people buy suddenly you're, you're going to the bottom of the river, where you watch on the top of the outer,
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isn't it? you look the next day and you're on page 34. this happens to everybody who is in disagreement with certain people. now that is, you know, we're going through a moment right now. incredible change in the united states because all of a sudden there were a lot of people who were cancelling people like me for years and who are now totally afraid to do that because they yes, i have to be cancel their sales but actually worse and yeah, so they're afraid to lose their jobs. i mean, everything. yeah. i actually am old enough to remember the days of the old hollywood can very well. in fact, i knew members of the few weeks that at and you know, they were both of them pretty well. yeah. communistic ourselves was thinking some
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way, but they were also come by as people and good people, everything they were cancelling. anybody else is doing that kind of stuff. they believed in free though they believed and 3 lives is different. it's not the same kind of thing. and i don't think it has much to do with it. you know, i do listed audio g is it is a big power trip to the control of money and power and not so much. i mean, i, i think i think it's a game of obama that it was, it really about the left is renew it. in the old days, it is about the, you know, who's in charge and who's got the money and who's rubbing the show and therefore they, they had to cancel people who, who were saying, hey, what are you doing? yeah, your sound is a bit echo e. i don't know whether you're in an echo chamber as far as obama is concerned. daily the left, as i said, was of a nearby list. um, i mean,
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perhaps it was that old left as you say, the communist of that time. and the, it's somehow mutated into this identity area. and way of looking at things. it's quite amazing given that, you know, people like talk a call soon. love your new book and endorsed it that you once donated money to the black panthers, don't you think the black panthers would have gone to nashville and left hollywood to? i mean, they, they wanted, they wanted to embrace the working classes of america. and your book, refugees, is clearly very conscious of the importance of the working classes of united states who have been forgotten by those relates in hollywood to oh, you know, there has been, you know, everybody talks about sex change operations. but the real page 6 change of ration in america was between the republicans. is that correct? because in the old days, in fact, most of my life is democrats were the body of the working class. and now it's flips
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completely. so it's a fascinating phenomena. i think the castle, why a lot of people like me lift california because are, you know, the, the hypocrisy kind of level, they've gone up so high. it was all these rich people driving around and mercedes and tests was that, you know, and it was, they were there was a spouse, a, all these ideals that what came from a different here. so it became almost like kind of kate, i mean, at the same time you've had all the homelessness growing in the l. a in san francisco. so here looking around and there always people zooming by, advancing cars. and there is a power of the people say, oh i, the people are industries, the whole thing became, you know,
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so strange as i don't know how to add, you know, to this day, i don't know what actually created the moments that started to slip away into something something very different. and oh well now we have this up here and i think it's going to change again. so we, i don't know. i mean it's just the getting, i mean, but even just be getting things are happening very rapidly. yeah. but do you think you hear in utah and that will be sale for the black panthers would recognize exactly what you're saying. they recognize what you're saying. i mean, i don't know whether they devote a trump, but it's ironic that the old left recognizes what you're saying in the, in your books and your work as well. you know, as it is, they all know and not to deep down the, the, there's a way too far. and so there is, there is a, a culture of fear right now on the left of this country of what
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about retribution by truck. now i suspect there is not going to be as much retribution as they fear, but there, but their fear of retribution is sort of parallel to what they did, which was really bad. they use the law in ways that have never been used to this country before, at least not in my life. so i and they are is and they know, so is this, they know it, they're going well when would you be in big trouble? isn't that right? now isn't necessary to stop that happening again. i mean, last time trump didn't onto the goals of his support, just to look up crooked hillary. isn't the trump this time around to uh, and uh, things that are, will actually on the american as the constitutional. i mean, i know you're laughing about it, but obviously the 1st amendment is something very serious. this is the 1st
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amendment isn't matter. if there were no 1st amendment had been on the way we know i and the way people have hopes for me. otherwise, we're not different from any other country. so it's, so is it, it, but there's a body is all this and that is when you're ready for seeing this and when you are forcing, what happened? to what extent you are you vengeful. i mean, it's a very fine lie to what, what does this funny things about a truck that people don't realize? if you look back at his 1st administration, it was pretty much, it was centrist prices, or he was not really radical. he wants to shut the border, but every country in the world is just bored. yeah. his. oh, you're doesn't,
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you know, you're at this time, this is boring to, i mean it's just normal because you can always take so many people coming in. and, you know, i mean they're bright, has issues with, i mean everywhere as, as you are that, i mean it's not. so it is, it's a strange situation because always people who are hearing, oh, he's going to kill us all because of this. but he's not, i mean, now that said there, there are people on the fringes of the terrible things. what are those, the doctor after the found she who is, or fortunately, or the is 8 year old? what do you do to someone who's though i don't know, you probably have to present yourself for as last 6 months or so. the as, as you know, the censorship, industrial complex still exists before the integration. so soon as we talk about file g, when this goes up on youtube, owned by google will know what, what might happen hollywood, those specifically can, i mean, generate it's
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a global phenomena and into as a soft power. and hollywood is clearly spreading some kind of nebulous, strange message to everyone around the world. uh, do you think anything can be done about freeing that up so that movies are made about many different subjects, including the ones that are existing they make at the moment, but all different types or i think about that always as well. you know, there are different things, the problems in it. and what are the irony uses that hollywood destroying itself, bias village bias, you know, stupid, kind of view, pause on the other hand, hollywood was due to die anyway. unfortunately, in this area where i am talking to you from nashville to do by uh, is not that big a deal. really. the only part,
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the only partners being on this program i should say from nashville. yeah, right. on the other hand, you know, we live in the world where it's the politics, the last 5 minutes. and every everybody's head is spinning, tacitly where no one has the time to sit down and watch a movie anymore. movies, joseph, the bed from a different era is a certain way. i mean, if the godfather or some great movie were made today, you know, he's there cause the that a made. but if a great movie were made today, when people realize it, a 100 percent. sure, it really well they want someone is a watch them on streaming platforms in fan is. but you mentioned the godfather and um, actually uh he has a full mouth just me. i think color at the moment, but uh, is it the question of clause they can only understand characters,
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not like your film, the big fix, i think was the 1st what i told of us. they don't really understand the cloth. is that the problem? they think in terms of an individual and their identity is that there's, there's a problem between these essentially. yeah, no, good, good, very good question. and i think the answer is not well, but it, but i, you know, that problem is, is very much there. but the medium still has to have support. so these are 2 different issues. they are tut benny. yes, each other plus what has happened at hollywood for quite some time now? is that in the big budget movies they're being made for china? there it says china has had a because of their population. they've got
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a veto over the contents of hollywood movies, which is crazy. of the, you know, even, even in the recent tom cruise movie, you know, the top, the real, the read major, the top good. you can the doesn't say who the bill is. army is here fridays. is that okay roger? well, he won't get back to this and but to, i'll stop you. that will offer me the oscar nominated screenwriter and ceo, and there is a page i need your after this break the the,
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[000:00:00;00] the if you think about russia, what is your mind picture the of the flooded landscapes open up before your eyes. the water one does you imagine
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the, the discounts dodge the journey? the are you ready to come along the welcome back to going on the right, i'm still here with the oscar nominated screenwriter and c o. it matters as a page and media road assignment. roger in part one, i think it's a new background now origin. you're talking about how movies have to satisfy chinese demo and you think in relation to claus, do you think china would one clause is the dimensions of characters in the infield . given that it's a kind of call me this. uh no, i think that the what china cares about is um they look good in the movies so that the village does not say. and so that the good guy doesn't attack
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the chinese. that's what they're very concerned with, especially of action movies, you know, action movies, the spider man or whoever is after the, after the bad guy. right. so they don't want a bad guys to do with try a best that has a bad guy. that's a good good. so the, that's what it, that's the, the working class question is, you know, that's the, this trying to care about. the word says may more, i think. yeah. we have, i mean, that would be a large ninety's. they would say they definitely do we, we were talking about the trump, of course, in relation to retribution in, but i noticed you tweeted recently on x about uh, giving me the, the swamp creatures returning this guys under a new trump administration. what? well, had you guard against george soros, his old friend scope percent,
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as we knew treasury secretary and is that in indication of some of the fee is many trump supporters have as well. yes. uh the other hand, you know, it's a wait and see situation. i mean, um, you know, the, if a, this guy is obviously best is obviously yeah, you've experienced a head start as a manager who knows the stock market and everybody cares. and, and truck really likes to stock market high and you know, i didn't know i'm, yeah, i like the stuff, margaret. hi, be disappointed. my life. i have money was back mortgage. so it's, it's, it's not, it's not a simple situation, but there's a lot of good trying going on right now among people in america because they, they, you know, no, nobody can ever be satisfied. everybody has to go. but, but where is it, where in the world, the moment of you know, why not wait and see
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a little bit how this plays out? what are this a progress numbers of up very high as a move in the highest they've ever been. and this is an indication of the most people think she's been a pretty good job and the transition. and so they don't know how to do that. i mean, i've been to tennessee and i've seen the levels of poverty in the states. i think they show me, i think they show okay, anyone visiting from abroad? i mean it's levels of developing well type of poverty in parts of tennessee and those people, many of whom voted for trump expect change, don't they, they expect. and this time around to drain the swamp, not to fuel it like you did last time. oh yeah, no, they do expect that and, but it, you know, i have bad news for them. and bad news with drugs. not everything is in the control of one man here who is even the president united states,
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but just not this. that's a if you look the, i mean, you know, only god has that guy control. and so, you know, they have people have to be realistic about is i agree with you that there is probably not just in tennessee but all over the united states that you know, is 3rd world level it's, it's horrible to see. in fact, it's worse in places like california where you would expect because it's the golden state, and so many people are visiting it is that it wouldn't exist at all, but it's there in space. so, you know, are you, it's been a long, long struggle in this country to ga night those days. and, you know, it is frankly, much easier at a place like do by which is really small and where there is oil. well, and it, everybody can, you know,
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maybe the united states has the money. it's just distribution, isn't it? yeah, it is. but you know, good question is whether you want a state to their store it or you want it to be distributed through businesses and the state distributed it, it tends to, well, if you look at history attempts to get really evil. yeah, well i mean, well, particularly don't hear about, you know, introducing communism immediately to the united states. i was talking about the levels of perceive corruption in the beltway, and on k street in dc, which you impoverishing americans. o. d o you written about this in your movies avenue. back to 98. 78 is what they've getting. yeah. we don't really see as many films about that corporate corruption now or it. yeah, absolutely true. i mean, and, and it will be specially to see the degree that, that can be formed out, you know, what i think the most important thing to come out of the,
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the truck administrators as of now or the beginning is the teaming up of, of eli musk and, and the very cordova swami. uh, i know, be very pretty well, uh, in this, uh, uh, you know, in the, in their dogs program to cut corporate it wasted in the government because wasted in the government is directly tied to the corruption you're talking about. i mean, it couldn't be poured it's, i mean, when you start to know politicians at a high level of it just, i have them start to build them later in my life. but i was younger, i didn't know they were really, i do just segments on television, use the, the ties to the corruption and politicians are. so anthem is, and it's almost like you have to, you know, bomb is to take it out. and we'll see what must skin around this one we can do because it's a new, very new approach. and is the 1st news making that come along and american politics
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and so long? do you think uh, any of those uh, celebrities. the problem is to emigrate. if trump was elected beginning to understand the class dimension, why people of color voted for trump in increasing numbers. why the people that are being left behind by the dnc of yeah, just why is that? that was the piece. i know a few of those libraries personally from my hollywood days there besides being monumental hypocrites because they had, you know, their living life because it is the same time is they're complaining about what exactly is it that the i would say if 10 percent of them stay in the 4 countries i'd be amazed and, and in reality the, that venue were leaving it there just well known. and you read about them on the x or whatever. but they did not, and they don't add up to a lot of people. i know ellen degenerate has,
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has moved to the cox was okay. big deal in britain and how long digit is a is called to be in a movie and los angeles. she just gets the private jet goes to los angeles. there is no, it is no sacrifice involved in this. it all our international audience with no she is, but apparently she has some tool coast who was i think auntie on the adult shows, but also in the, in television before who knows? no one's ever heard of it. miss nbc. i have but of course found her with a lot of these was it may be too late with a lot of them. the embrace power for powered sake. they were never really on any kind of idea of left and they'll just bag, like i understand some on television are some networks a, you know, they're going up tomorrow a logo to pray to for forgiveness from the drum. yes. uh yeah. i
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to, well, you know, you could go to a worse place, you know, this is good. the other way it is good is that since you pay twice because no one r f k junior said the wintertime r s k junior says the food is terrible to um, but anyway i can, we, can we not expect any russian agent uh stuff. i mean, i know just to see gab and overseeing the ca, she's come under a huge amount of the usual propaganda that we followed after russia gate would subside a little. this still repeating the lies against uh uh, can we expect more of these? um, fake russian dossiers. and everyone associated with donald trump is secretly working, providing me a position or yeah, probably a true a few because they're not going to have as much power because they really blew the 1st one with the, with the big rush, hopes thing. and i think virtually everybody knows that was a fluid. so, you know,
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once you pull something off like that and then you blow it, you can't, they'll go back to it. i mean, watching the heroes of tulsa gab, it'll be interesting because i, i have a project that she'll do very well because she is a smart cookie and she knows how to handle herself or a television. but the, yeah, they'll come back to if it is not going to be very powerful because they've already done it and they've already blue circle. so, you know, people know, i mean, you do, the great thing about what's happening in america today is the old mainstream, me is, does the darn it nobody, nobody believes or not even themselves. so, you know, it's in order to pull off. i oh, they're really a rush of age of b. s. you have to have that kind of media power behind you. wish they had the beginning, but they all have now. i'm just finally,
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i mean obviously war and peace has been so much war under biden harris. how seriously and you know, people that are close to trump? i know tucker carlson, the loved yearbook and it's a good cause and says there are a lobby's forcing was on american administrations. can we expect trump to actually seek peace around the world as opposed to what bible is done or will it be pressured by the military? industrial complex, as i say. so you can trust that to do it. you just thing about trump is the, you know, the, the election negatives. people have a bad truck, the new, certainly a braggart exists. but if you though, you know, like brighthurt's of, then you won't lie a truck. but the, but the thing about trump is it, and we notice from this 1st german, you see it is compared to 90 percent of the policy issues. the guy does what he says is good to. and you know,
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he's already rich. he's already the most famous person on the planet. what does he have to get? what does he have to gain by uh, not going over to the military, industrial complex. absolutely nothing. but there is a good news for the, for that same complex and truck that is truck is a real believer in the stronger military in order to have fees. is one of these, these real straight guys and beds. uh, so they'll be spending money on a gun and so that's for sure there won't be any peace dividend or infrastructure in the united states. the kind of infrastructure you write about in your work, res. uh, i think you get a point there. i've learned that some more work as an employee, that some who i see, i mean, they're concerned about it, but up the, you know, he does really believe is, you know, uh, strong military is. and he's also getting rid of all the work stuff in the military . thank god. i mean, that was really ridiculous. so, but uh, you know,
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the, the extra money for infrastructure, you know, they, they're going to be finding that, and especially with all the costs kind of going on is. so i didn't exactly figure unless he's right that a energy bill and there's i and stays can solve it all. but um, well, you know, as we say as bad as it was a very i see roger assignment. thank you. as you're welcome, that's it for the show. i'll continue condolences to those very by u. k. u. s. u i'm jen is i didn't guys, this is bombing of lebanon, iraq, gavin, syria and around. we'll be back for the final episode of the season on monday with best selling economics, older and full of authentic and, and us intelligence advisor, jim records, who will give us some warnings about 2025. and you'll then even touch my role as social media. if it's on the sense of your country and channel guaranteed you hon, they'll come to let you know that besides i'm going on the ground. so you monday,
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