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the past 3 years against a backdrop of rising tensions and neighboring countries, such as molly's burkina, faso in these year, the population of chad has increasingly struggled with the presence of france, especially its military presence, chatting and society at all levels disapproves of the presence of the french army in their country when president my crown came to power his actions, behavior, and speeches seriously disappointed a large part of the african youth who believe that france behaves quite condescendingly towards his former colonies on the african continent, particularly in francophone countries. people have begun to constantly question the benefits of cooperation with their former colonizer france, especially since a significant number of african countries south of the sahara suffer from widespread poverty. public opinion generally holds that the economic backwardness of francophone countries is a result of colonization, which is currently embodied by the leadership of france, whose speech is
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a narrative give it away completely. unfortunately, we have now reached the point of no return of i started out of this news. we're very special in the view of thanksgiving. how are the is being interviewed by all to do what site will be back in about 30 minutes? since mr. president, out of my heartfelt thanks for agreeing to an interview with russia's v g t r k tv company, and re a. notice the news agency, i'm on just a few days before the start of the special military operation in 2022, just hours before it began. you were in moscow to sign a declaration on how i cooperation with president booley must. the world has changed radically since that is what does the alliance between azerbaijan and russia mean now. so a few years that have passed since signing the declaration, russian president vladimir putin made a very significant and historic visit to us or by john. he had visited us many times, but this visit was special that this was his 1st official state business,
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which took place this summer and yep. and like when we not only confirmed the allied nature of our relations, but also outlined ways to develop our bilateral cooperation further with zeros. i think that today, when you know there is no doubt in either us or by john or russia, the other that we are reliable in partners. and as i said earlier in difficult times, we have always shown understanding you know, and behaved in a friendly manner towards one another as well. and i am sure that this will continue on that. not sure, of course, we continue to actively find new areas for collaboration in business and tray in our trade turnover is growing, perhaps not as fast as we'd like, but nevertheless, it's moving in the right direction i do. we are also witnessing an unprecedented number of visits by russians to us or by john and vice versa, which also indicates that the friendly atmosphere from both the political and purely human point of view is as positive as possible. because trips are generally
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taken to places where people feel comfortable, but we have seen a significant increase in visits in both directions over the past 2 to 3 years. and the increase in the number of flights between our countries attached to this just to chill. i think there are at least twice as many now as in soviet times. so we are pleased with how our relations are developing and as we place great value on them for. and i'm sure this positive trend will continue next years. once a minute let us see. so she has read me why you might have, nevertheless, this is a time of war for russia. william nato says the blog should be ready to go to war with russia within the next 57 years. i see you eventually, betsy, me yet. you haven't. i still want to express the hope that it will not come to such a direct confrontation between nato and russia. firstly, because everyone understands the catastrophic consequences of this would have for the whole world of a or all country lexia. and of course,
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because particularly for those countries that border those regions to the deal. and secondly, i still hope that the challenge in the us administration, i will also bring a change in foreign policy guidelines isn't on the experience from mr. trumps. first, president seemed like allows us to hope for this, you know, as well as statements key and members of his team right during the election campaign and after and therefore allow me to imagine a scenario where nato and rush you a face off in a hoc more he is like imagining a global apocalypse. it is clear that there will be no winners in this war. and no country, even one locate them far from russia or the natal region. you still can field say, i think there is enough political wisdom in washington. yeah. moscow and other capitals to ensure that it's such a nightmarish scenario that is not materialize. nicole bush on your machine. yeah. and has declared a point of no return in his relations with the c s. d o. n is deepening relations
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with france. and so what does this mean for regional security for us or by john in particular, us nice to my this poses an immediate threat with video, which we have repeatedly talked about, most likely. and in my talks with the prime minister of armenia, where we voiced our concerns to him some way. we've also brought these concerns to the french government, obviously. and the leadership of the united states, which changed its balanced approach to the countries of the south caucasus by during the biden administration, and embarked on a passable, unilateral support or armenia. so there are a lot of things to indicate that this threat is quite serious. dining up the weapons that mat crowns government is supplying to armenia are offensive. lisa windows, oppose a real threat to azerbaijan to we cannot just remain outside observers of this process. considering that our border with our mania is more than a 1000 kilometers long. with many settlements located along it and that former
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refugees that are returning to most of the settlers. we've repeatedly told armenia and its patrons in the us state department to show them that this should stop. but unfortunately, i need our entreaties, have gone on, heard the skill, i mean, the process of arming our media is proceeding by leaps and bounds. we are monitoring everything that happens there as much as possible in a single. naturally, we have been forced to take adequate measures and response. our next military budget will be record breaking number. it will be about $5000000000.20. so we are being forced to spend at least 60 percent more about it than if there had been no such threats. so at the, this is money we could have used for restoring catalog of social benefits and so on . since we have to do out of mean, and we will do it, see, mean, i think this is a pernicious path. yes. really. firstly, armenia won't be able to withstand an arms race with us. in any case, such case,
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despite the fact that they receive most of their weapons from the west for free or on credit, which will then of course, a bit not here. but even in this case enough that they will not be able to prevail in an arms race with us. they shouldn't forget the results of the 2nd terabyte war rely on the anti terrorist operation as of september 2023. and they also need to understand that despite receiving maximum support on the ground here from the background regime, it isn't like as well as the us state, depart. and if they are planning another provocation against us at all, no one will help them. how did macro and help them in 2020 or 20? 23. a. did he hold them by the hand? i don't know. is this or maybe buy something out much? that's it. so what else is he capable of? we know this very well naturally and so we will continue to make it clear both in negotiations and the commission on dilemma taishan that works between armenia and as are by john with n to armenia sponsors, mom,
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the soros crowd in washington that this, that this needs to stop when you get this continues, they can't say we didn't warn them. no, we don't have nobody to make up. but at some point it looked like a peace treaty was about to be signed. why wasn't advance? everyone was practically standing on toyota book, what it's about. well, for some reason, the west views these 2 processes as separate track while we believe that they shouldn't be integrated. so the one can't be on the track aiming for the peace treaty and on the track to arm armenia against us or by john, but at the same time. and it's true that we have actually made great progress in our please treating negotiations as billing, but out of the 17 items in the treaties and were not 15 had been agreed upon at the and the only 2 are outstanding. and during my last meeting with a prime minister of armenia english and she like what i heard and felt that there was that the 2 outstanding items like would be accepted by our media as well. yeah, i mean our terms and conditions with them slow g, like
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a key spencer and what items are those, how to be more specific? i might need. one of them says that our nations will refrain from international law suits against each other. and i think that's a mutually acceptable condition. the more we have recently completed our assessment of the inflicted them and weigh it down. and it was a detailed assessment on that. it took us for years and everything is now documented besides the damage that was caused during the years of occupation exceed $250.00 the $1000000000.00. i succeeded, therefore thought yeah, i think that refraining from mutual legal claims would be a mutually acceptable moving box. and the other outstanding item prohibits deployment of representatives of other nations on our board. or why is this important for us? because under the guise of so called european observers, a naval base has been set up in armenia. right next to our border law deployment of this observer force was agreed with azerbaijan. in october 2022 at the for weight
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talks between mister punch in young, president of the european council. charles michelle was the president of france and me back then, france was still part of the normalization process and left. so it was agreed that a limited number of your representatives that will namely 40 observers would be deployed for 2 months. and yet, later, this mission was extended without any agreement on our part of them. and the other side's argumentation was that wrong. so, well, why should we agree it with you since it's a mission on the territory of armenia and what is that? and our argumentation is the in the why did you agree with us in the 1st place then? yeah, that's no way to do things, the sort of thing. and then the mission grew to include more than $200.00 people. and then it just turned into a natal mission when representatives of canada joining. so that's condition number 2, it's still weights for armine is agreements not. and there are 2 more things that we
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need our meeting. we have to do. the 1st one is to amend the country's constitution law. not because armine is constitution contains a reference to its declaration of independence. and that in turn contained territorial claims to as or by john and declares the former no guar, no carol bach, autonomous region as a part of our media love. and therefore it was the need to have their constitution amend. it is not our women. it is simply an objective condition or not. and the other thing we need done is to have the o s. c events group disbanded that can only be done by the participating members vote. he showed why and therefore remains formally impossible. without armine is consent. even though the o s. c e means group has long since stopped being functional, it formerly still exists, etc. and our question is the following language. if our menial recognizes car box as a, as a part of, as or by john, while the men's group had been created to solve the car box issue. and i'm asking,
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why do they still need? i mean, in other words, armine is on willingness to support our move to have the o. c mincey group disbanded is a sign that the ranches plans are quite serious there. so that is basically all. you have a nice advisor, but john recently hosted an important climate change conference taking what challenges did you face preparing it and what are the main takeaway? so these are thought that no beloved that the lower main challenge was a very tight timeframe. typically, countries get 2 years to prepare a summit of this size, which while we only had 11 months, it was because our media was still blocking. azerbaijan sped, literally 2 or 3 days before the decision was made last december. and since there was no consensus of it, and the question of whether baku would host a comp $29.00, was decided that the last minute, which is why we only had 11 months for preparation. but for those and it was the primary challenge much we knew we had to find enough space to house over 70000
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registered participants. well below there were 76000 of them know we needed to recertify our hotel bikes and figure out how to accommodate the guests. because we just don't have enough hotel rooms for this number of people when we designated various recreational zones and us housing, which had been constructed but wasn't yet move in. ready. so we brought it up to hotel standards that involved a huge amount of organizational work. huge fraud, we asked up as far as i know what's going on, there were only 10 complaints about the organization of the event during comp $29.00 units, which were quickly taken care of next year and all the get as were heavy. the 2nd challenge is if you can call it a challenge, or perhaps a certain cause of discomfort or that was that completely unmotivated wave of aggression now hate mixed with jealousy. and a refusal to accept the fact that a little bit as everybody john was chosen to host a conference of this magnitude at night. western media started calling us
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a petra state, even though in principle there's nothing wrong with the out of things. i said during the opening ceremony that was being called a petra state in the 19th century, when we supplied over 50 percent of the world as crew would have been accurate. but yet today, that's when we're being labeled a petra state by the fake news of the country that that turns out almost a 1000000000 tons of oil new this as opposed to our 30. i mean the us interstate? 32. no, no. yes. if we only produce around 30000000 tons, when this country is neighbor, i mean canada produced is 10 times as much oil as we do. we're calling us a petro estate like knock is unfair. but there is this group of fake news which is not by expression, by the way. i borrowed it from president trump. it was right, but i liked it very much. i think it's pissy. and on point at which there's this lying for, as we call them, the washington post, 2nd new york times, or let's see,
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grow, and long time. so this lying store together with a choir of the state department tag along such as all kinds of n g o is, was the embarked on an offensive launching a smear campaign against our site. and they published at least a couple of dozen articles every day and it didn't create problems for us. but it was cringe, worthy and disgusting gullets and delivering results was hard. of course, that isn't because we're not a global actor in this spirit of is or by john only accounts or 0 point one percent because of global natural gas emissions noise. whereas the share of the us is 12 percent or even and the share of the e. u is more. oh, you are a sales rep to even though they're under reporting is i don't, you know, i know what i've dramatic happen. they are, that's a separate issue that the, i'm just quoting official figures, waste. we used all our diplomatic experience. also. mainly we relied on our experience of chairing the non aligned movement, which includes
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a $120.00 countries to an end are active membership in the organization of islamic cooperation, to build bridges and get the results of where it was tough. but it's for a reason that we called cop 29 a back who break through because we managed to achieve full operational is the options of a lot of articles 6 of the paris agreement, which had been debated since 2015, which essentially like there was no agreement on the issue of carbon market score almost a decade. so to, let's say, what we achieved in baku unlocked carbon markets, which allows countries to trade in carbon quoted as well as, while retaining global emissions within the desired limits. another issue which some consider a failure, but we see is a success is the annual climate pledge of $300000000.00 on the initial ask was for one trillion on them. but it was clear that nobody was willing to fork out that bunch. and yet reveal, given the fact that the previous plan was $100000000000.00 got our result,
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got to be seen as you nothing short of success. there were many other highlights as were by john proposed 14 initiatives like and the absolute majority of delegates supported to accept friends in luxembourg. top why france refused is clear enough why luxembourg followed the example of france is also clear. so this is how i would describe this conference now and don't forget to do on the $197.00 countries. so you see a heads up to date and government just so the last and 76000 registered participants in attendance with the in spite of boy scott attempts the book, it was a showcase task advisor by john lewis. our congratulations to your country, and thank you who are slow and then what you mentioned, france, and how as or by john is facing attacks by fake news. good says the french president even went as far as attacking azerbaijan at the you. in general assembly, you responded by mentioning french overseas territories, which are suffering from real neo colonialism within. joseph burrell jumped into
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the fray with criticisms of, as are by john and your is europe supposed to be above reproach, deal of how come of it. but what's going on? but yeah, they're not used to being lectured about justice. maybe they're used to lecturing. everyone else is there sure they're used to others, sucking up to them, but begging them for something. i'm a seeking their advice and not doing anything without their approval. it is each those formerly colonial and sometimes currently neo colonial countries, are used to this way of living and thinking over them. so it's a deeply ingrained to have it works. basically, we've never had any issues with france, that's one issue you. what's more, our cooperation with brands before macro and it was probably even stronger than with any other european country on. when my father was elected president, in 1993, he made his 1st official visit to france because they were the 1st to invite him. so when i became president in 2003 over to france again,
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was the 1st country to send me an invitation. and my 1st visit was there could be out of our cooperation was very active on the following year. and we had a lot of french companies in us or by john, our cities have 13 sister cities in france. still the unbridled ambition and delusions of grandeur of macro on his government have a centrally pushed it all off a cliff. when the 2nd carol baltimore started uh, and they openly sided with the occupying party, it was the 1st signal of something being wrong on their side of our relations. but they were later forced to accept the results, but continued to do everything to support the process of mister barney scott, who has recently been thrown out as the piano. franz illegally visited cairo box as a french politician after 2020. that was all that meddling, kept pushing our relations into a crisis. it got even worse, not after september 2023. and then we tried to raise the issue with the un security
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council 5 time 100 and failed each time. and so we were supported by enough countries to prevent this issue from even being included in the agenda. and so they decided to try another way to change the attachment, so to speak. and attempted to impose a use sanctions on as or by john, but also what for shell, for restoring our sovereignty and failed again. as a result, they got really mad at us struggling and they're now using every means at their disposal to discredit us activities. as for bringing up their colonial passive board, some thought it was just our swipe back, ask them about. but i think it goes deeper than that. initially that one could say it was probably just best. but now that we're deeply immersed in this issue, now that we've seen the ugly face of french colonial lives all the more now that our representatives have talked a lot to residents of french colonies in their countries. but in baku and in other
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locations, it's, i mean, we can clearly see what has been hit for the public guy for so many years. why was it hidden that the because nobody wanted to engage with them, you thought of? nobody wanted that lack of symbol because they used blackmail loveliness. not even we, after our relation sank to a cold war phase, initially kept getting warning messages saying, we shouldn't forget that france was a great power yet merciless exploitation of natural resources. so it's, are you talking about new caledonia new to it? not only that little could i believe new caledonia is only one of 13 or 15 such cases. one of them like the island may all tell you recently had assumed nami, your old news, reported that 75 percent of locals are living below the poverty line meeting 30 to 40 percent of the housing stock. there is dilapidated, its french territory by law of sense, even though it is part of the con, the rose. it's one of the islands of the color in state. frances holding it
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illegally. but we don't even need to go to know caledonia, so we'll look at what's happening in the heart of europe and use that in corsica. they are banning the course. it can language from public space and lower color doing how is this acceptable display? is this what they called democracy and human rights? the france may have once again, a great country of great thinkers, scientists and writers, not any more with these new backgrounds. regime is essentially turning france into a failed state roma. let me give you a few quick examples. they're completely failing. are in africa use in the saw whole regional sales manager for keen affonso and molly all said i do right. kind of thing is chad is next in line. having already asked them to leave and set a goal, where a new president with the national spirit has come to power. and this is just the beginning of the liberty they failed, and 11 on a complete failure. failed. and as you're by john, a bus stop,
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i failed in georgia tech with how would you assess the current situation in georgia? what was it? i can see that the situation in georgia is stabilizing to, and we're happy to see that georgia is a crucial partner. and close friend to us are people's have lived in peace and harmony for many centuries. and that's why any d stabilization, or threats of destabilization in georgia is just as harmful to azerbaijan. so as it is to georgia itself. so that's our, our part of what we're doing, everything in our power to help ensure that georgia situation stays in the political domain. that georgia maintains debility and continues to develop successfully, eh, and again, speaking of foreign influence, it turns out that thousands of n g o, as in georgia, receive western funding. and the number of people on their payrolls probably runs into tens of thousands, if not more. and we know what that means because there was
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a time here in our country when grand givers and grant receivers used to enjoy the way too much freedom from you. but we've put a stop to that, that on, that is why any graph that that is given by any entity ready to go. whether it is as or by johnny or foreigners must be authorized 1st or when the smart and the relevant to authorities decide whether to allow it or not. so to check if it's in line with the algebra, johns national interest. yes, you will naturally much though, and 2nd, believe ish, assistance must be non intrusive bite on the look. how will the bite and administration be remembered story, among other things, it will be remembered as very intrusive. if we want to help you, they say i'm a kitchen and we say no, i'm others. thank you. that's okay. it's almost like, oh, what like we really want to help you. you is they have this organization called us a id which is created to help countries, but somehow it chooses all the wrong ways of helping us. it's actually banned in
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russia. well, but it's not van here. yeah. but i imagine trump could band it. i don't know, i mean we banded ourselves. oh, i see. well, yeah, go, you were right to do so i'm up for haps, this organization i need to, i no longer be part of us or by john's political likes or so to. they are too pushy to eager about helping us and you mind, we're all adults in the room here. um we understand what that means. nothing to me . that's why we put it under strict control. and so i see, for example, businesses thereby johnny media cannot be financed by foreign money. we're not even by one percent. right. why would we want that? we don't finance any media in the us new way, which may be why should they finance or media or i guess well even as it is and even though they are using their own tools, like voice of america or radio, liberty, to smear our people and our country day and night, bye and to throw shade on our victory over armenia to with georgia. i think there
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has been a lot of time last week. they were too late to get it under control. now they finally done it, but the ship was sale and so to speak over. it is good though, that things are stabilizing now. but again, as you can see, mac, crohn's fingerprints are all over. what a restless man we are, you just wouldn't mind his own business. he had to get his hands all over georgia to have you seen the reopening ceremony and notre dame cathedral in paris or stone? what have you noticed? the pope francis ignored the occasion. he cannot forgive the crown for the disgrace at the olympics, gloves, paralysis, and rightly so. the morning instead, he went to corsica as if trying to rustle his feathers, plus or so it is be going back to georgia. the issue is much broader and it seems latham of course, i think that's why they are pushing some contrast forward to articulate sanctions and so on. because this is, let's talk about it this way. so i propose a new battle for the caucus and i'm on the look at armenia. sure. it's clear where
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it's going. you don't want it has to fact to quit the c s t always in a couple of according to our own verified information. the only reason why they are not to jewelry withdrawing is because they have not yet received. go ahead what's from the us state department as soon as they get it and the more they will withdraw . but as you're buying, john is an independent actor, capable of standing up for itself on you up in law. that is why georgia is now what component of the battle over the conferences, the fuck, what will the caucasus be like going forward and then we will it be a traditional societies on the job based on our cost asian value? bye too, bye. thank you so much, president ali for this excellent interview. i see. thank you. the whole so if you have any questions,
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please do it for do you play with the if it was somebody else doing the lunch? so unless i do it the other i'm listening with when somebody of us the you up at the 1000000 leaving country 3 pusher, vicki, kansas dropped us out list because of the americans omega last used to use you can, as a, you know, as a poke, see you know, the to
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a week and i showed that you don't have any interest in doing that. and to generalize on having interestingly read that they have a gun only by taking sanctions. i gave her shift. i mean, it's each of the americans what we have to wait to says the, the, the,
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the law that somebody didn't read through the end says of a bind instance. if it is the native to the number of similar incidents across russia inside the city of cause, i know is his way of a raj, a view cleaning time because the drones type of thing with some high rise towers burst into flame. also at the display, the system fails to interest the who, the ballistic missile from him. and in doing 16 people.

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