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tv   Going Underground  RT  December 21, 2024 8:00pm-8:31pm EST

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the, the i'm action redundancy, and welcome back to going underground rule cussing all around the world in the u. a . in exactly a months time president trump will, once again will in the white house. that's if the biden administration hasn't destroyed the planet by then. there are huge expectations riding on the 2nd trump administration. a foreign policy over the whole will peace, the end of the military, industrial, complex, economic stability. and perhaps most importantly, and then does that make sense to ship with the renewing of the 1st amendment to some free speech and the democracy is the benchmark that pays the way for everything else. but you won't find much free speech in hollywood while trump was a celebrity before ever dipping his goes into politics. much of the hollywood
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entertainment. the leads tried and will continue to try to convince the american public to vote against them. so if you're thinking of headings of the cinema this christmas expect receive both over and subliminal messaging, feeding you a false narrative and political bias. someone who agrees as an oscar nominated screen write it down. journalist who was kicked out of all the wood, which assignment is the seo emeritus of the political commentary, website p. j. media and his latest book is american refugees, the untold story of the mass migration from blue to red state to joins me now from nashville and tennessee. well sure, thanks so much for coming on as an oscar nominated the screen right to do you think trump may return the the united states 1st amendment of the catastrophe of censorship, but on the new a liberal democrat party censorship. oh, very much so you know where it is that alarms the left in our country a great deal because like the left in most countries they don't really like the speech. but the, i, you know, there's alliance with the law is of course,
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pretty central to this because musket opened up twitter into ex my blood and now they are awfully well. do they do see what happens? because the left is now fully x to blue sky, where i haven't been because stop advertising, stop advertising. and roger, you mentioned the left and i've tried to say the left is a kind of nebulous term. now. i mean, do you don't think the right is like built in chombo ring lot, the junior, the hollywood and we'd, they'd be with you. i mean, they'd recognize business mccarthyism and they'd be full of the relative free speech that he learned most because given them on x off to these years of censorship, i mean that you yourself have been sense it you know, it's, it's, it is just to use a very interesting thing and how it works. i mean i, the people use the word castle of a lot and i think is more accurate. one,
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you can sense or people buy suddenly you're, you're going to the bottom of the river, where you watch on the top of the outer, isn't it? you look the next day and you're on page 34. this happens to everybody who is in disagreement with certain people. now that is, you know, we're going through a moment right now. incredible change in the united states because all of a sudden, there were a lot of people who were cancelling people like me for years and who are now totally afraid to do that because they, yes, i have to be canceled their sales, but actually works in here so they're afraid to lose their jobs. i mean, everything. yeah. i actually am old enough to remember the days of the old hollywood can very well. in fact, i knew members of the few weeks that at and you know,
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they were both of them pretty well. yeah. comment is bigger ourselves who lives thinking some way, but they will also come by as people and good people, everything they were cancelling. anybody else is doing that kind of stuff they believed in free though they believed in free left is different. it's not the same kind of thing, and i don't think it has much to do with it. you know, i do list it guy. yeah, g is it is a big power trip to the control of money and power and not so much. i mean, i, i think i think if again, with obama, that it was it really about the left. is it of as renew it? in the old days, it is about the, you know, who's in charge and who's got the money and who's running the show. and therefore they, they had to cancel people who, who were saying, hey, what are you doing? yeah, your sound is a bit echo e. i don't know whether you're in an echo chamber as far as obama is concerned.
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daily the left, as i said, was a nebulous term. i mean, perhaps it was that old left as you say, the communist of that time. and the, it's somehow mutated into this identity area. and way of looking at things. it's quite amazing given that, you know, people like talk a call. so love your new book and endorsed it that you once donated monies in the black panther. so do you think the black panthers would have gone to nashville and left hollywood to? i mean, they, they wanted, they wanted to embrace the working classes of america. and your book, refugees, is clearly very conscious of the importance of the working classes in the united states who have been forgotten by those relates in hollywood to oh, you know, there has been, you know, everybody talks about sex change operations. but the real page 6 change of ration in america was between the republicans. is that correct?
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because in the old days, in fact, most of my life is democrats were the body of the working class. and now it's flipped completely. so it's a fascinating phenomena. i think the castle, why a lot of people like me lift california because are, you know, the, the hypocrisy come level. they've gone up so high. it was all these rich people driving around and mercedes and tests was it, you know, and it was, they were there was a spouse, a, all these ideals that were came from a different here. so it became almost like kind of cake. i mean, at the same time you had all the homelessness growing in the l. a in san francisco . so here looking around and there always people zooming by, advancing cars. and there is a power of the people say, oh i,
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the people are in the streets. the whole thing became, you know, so strange as i don't know how to add, you know, to this day, i don't know what actually created that moment that it started to slip away into something, something very different. and oh, well now we have this up here and i think it's going to change again. so we, i don't know. i mean it's just the getting, i mean, but even just be getting things are happening very rapidly. yeah. but do you think you hear in utah and that will be sale for the black panthers would recognize exactly what you're saying paid, recognize what you're saying. i mean, i don't know whether they devote a trump, but it's ironic that the old left recognizes what you're saying in the, in your books and your work. when you know i is, is they all know and not to keep down the, the, there's a way too far. and so there is, there is
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a culture of fear right now on the left of this country. what about retribution by truck? now i suspect there is not going to be as much retribution as they fear, but there, but their fear of retribution is sort of parallel to what they did, which was really bad. they use the law in ways it had never been here to this country before, at least that in my life. so i and they are is, and they know, so is this, they know it, they're going well when we can be in big trouble. isn't that right now we shouldn't necessary to stop that happening again. i mean, last time trump didn't onto the goals of his support is to look up the crooked hillary. isn't it him the trump this time around to uh and uh, things that are well actually on the american anti constitutional. i mean,
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i know you're laughing about it, but obviously the 1st amendment is something very serious. this is the 1st amendment isn't there. if there were no 1st amendment had been on the way were, you know, i, and the way people have hopes for me. otherwise, we're not different from any other country. so it's, so is it, it, but there's a body and all this and that is when you're ready for seeing this and when you are forcing, what happens to what extent you are i, you, vengeful. i mean, it's a very fine line. what are the funny things about a truck that people don't realize? if you look back at his 1st administration, it was pretty much, it was centrist presses, or he was not really radical. you want to shut the border. but every country in the
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world is just bored. yeah, it is. i love your does and you know, europe is dying dishes born into, i mean it is just normal because you can only take so many people coming in. and you know, i mean, thereby has issues with that. i mean everywhere as, as you are that, i mean it's not. so it is, it's a strange situation because all these people were hearing. oh, he's gonna kill us all because of this, but he's not. i mean, now that said there were, there are people on the fringes of the terrible things. what are those, the doctor after the voucher you who is, or fortunately, or the and 8 year old, what do you do to someone who is that, oh, i don't know. you probably need to present yourself for as last 6 months or so. the as, as you know, this ends as your industrial complex still exists before the integration. so soon as we talk about file g,
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when this goes up on youtube and by google will know what might happen, hollywood, those specifically can, i mean, generate it's a global phenomenon. and in terms of soft power and hollywood is clearly spreading some kind of nebulous, strange message to everyone around the world. uh, do you think anything can be done about freeing that up so that movies are made about many different subjects, including the ones that are existing they're making at the moment, but all different types. right. so i think about that always as well. you know, there are different things, the problems in it. and what are the irony uses that hollywood destroying itself, bias voltage, bias, you know, stupid, kind of view, pause on the other hand, hollywood was due to die anyway. unfortunately, in this area where i am talking to you from nashville to do by uh,
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is not that big a deal. really. the only part, the only partners being on this program i should say from nashville. yeah, right. on the other hand, you know, we live in the world where this, the politics, the last 5 minutes and every everybody's head is spinning tacitly. we're, no, it hasn't time to sit down and watch a movie anymore. a visa or something bad from a different era is a certain way. i mean, if the godfather or some great movie were made today, you know, he's there cause that being made. but if a great movie were made today, when people realize it a 100 percent. sure, it really well they would come on as they watch them on streaming platforms and fans. but you mentioned the godfather and um, actually uh he has a full mouth just me. i think color at the moment,
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but uh is the. is it the question of clause they can only understand characters, not like your film, the big fix i think was the 1st what i told of you is they don't really understand the cloth. is that the problem? they think in terms of an individual and their identity is that there's, there's a problem between these essentially. yeah, no, good, good, very good question. and i think the answer is not well, but it, but i, you know, that problem is, it's very much there. but the medium still has to have support. so these are 2 different issues. they are kind of a guess each other, plus what has happened at hollywood for quite some time now? is that in the big budget movies they're being made for try me there.
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it says china has had a because of their population. they've gotten the veto over the contents of hollywood movies, which is crazy. and the, you know, even, even in the recent tom cruise movie, you know, the top, the real, the remainder of the top good. you can be, it doesn't say who the bill of this army is of there friday. is that okay roger, he will get back to this and by to i'll stop you. that will offer me the oscar nominated screenwriter and c o, and there is a page i need your after this break the the,
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[000:00:00;00] the if you're thinking about russia, what is your mind picture the of the flooded landscape. it's open up before your eyes. the last one does,
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can you imagine the, the discount starts, the journey, the, the you ready to come along the welcome back to going undergrad. i'm still here with the oscar nominated screenwriter and c o image as a p j media road assignment. roger in part one, i think it's a new background narrowed. you. you were talking about how movies have to satisfy chinese demo and you think in relation to clause, do you think china would one clause is the dimensions of characters in the, in fields given that it's a communist? oh, no,
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i think that's what china cares about is um they look good in the movies so that the villain does not say and so that the good guy doesn't attack the chinese. that's what they're very concerned with. especially it actually is, you know, the action movies, the spider man or whoever is after the, after the bad guy. right. so they don't want a bad guys to do with try a best, the bad guy. that's a good, good. so the, that's what it, that's the, the working class question is, you know, that's the, this trying to care about the words as more i think yeah, we have, i mean that would be a large dining as they would say. they definitely do. we, we were talking about, um, a trump of course, in relation to retribution. but uh, i know just you tweeted recently on x about uh, giving me the uh,
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the swamp creatures returning. and this guy is under a new jump administration. what? well, have you guard against george soros, his old friend scope percent of the new treasury secretary and is that in indication of some of the fee is many trump supporters have as well. yes. uh the other hand, you know, it's a wait and see situation. i mean, um, you know, as a, this guy is obviously best is obviously yeah, you've experienced a heads frozen manager who knows the stock market and everybody cares. and truck really likes to stock market high and you know, i didn't last. yeah. i like the stock market high be destroyed my life, i had money was back mortgage. so it's, it's, it's not, it's not a simple situation, but there's a lot of goods right? going on right now, among people in america because of a, you know,
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no home. nobody can ever be satisfied, everybody has to go. but, but where is it? where in the world, the moment of you know, why not wait and see a little bit how this plays out? what are they think a proper numbers are up very high at the moment, highest they've ever been. and this is an indication that the most people think she's got a pretty good job and the transition. and so they don't know how to do that. i mean, i've been to tennessee and i've seen the levels of poverty in that state. i, they, they shocked me. i think they shock anyone visiting from abroad. i mean it's levels of developing well type of poverty and thoughts of tennessee and those people, many of whom voted for trump expect change, don't they? they expect in this time round to drain. this was not to fuel it like you did last
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time. oh yeah, no, they do expect that and, but it, you know, i have bad news for them and bad news with drugs. not everything using the control of one man here who is even the president united states. it's just not this. that's a if you look the, i mean, you know, only god has that guy control. and so, you know, they have people have to be realistic about is i agree with you that there is probably not just in tennessee but all over the united states. that, you know, is 3rd world level it's, it's horrible to see. in fact, it's worse in places like california where you would expect because it's the golden state. and so many people are visiting it is that it wouldn't exist at all, but it's there in space. so, you know, or it's been a lot, a long struggle in this country to ga night those days. and, you know, it is frankly, much easier at
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a place like do by which is really small. and where there is oil wells and it, everybody can, you know, the united states has the money. it's just distribution, isn't it? yeah, it is. but you know, good question is whether you want a state to their store in it. or you want it to be distributed through businesses and the state distributed it, it tends to go, well, if you look at history, it tends to get really evil. yeah, well, i mean, well, particularly don't hear about, you know, introducing communism immediately to the united states. i was talking about the levels of perceive corruption in the beltway, and on k street in dc with your impoverishing americans. o d. o you written about this in your movies, avenue, back to 9878 is what they've getting got. we don't really see as many films about that corporate corruption now or it. yeah, absolutely true. i mean, and,
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and it will be special ed a to see the degree that, that can be formed out, you know, what i think the most important thing to come out of the, the truck administration as of now is the beginning, is the teaming up of, of eli musk and, and the very cordova swami. uh, i know, be very pretty well. uh, in this, uh uh, you know, in the, in their dogs program to cut corporate, it wasted in the government because wasted in the government is directly tied to the corruption you're talking about. i mean, it couldn't be poured, but i mean, when you start to know politicians with a high level of it just i have them started to build them later in my life. when i was younger, i didn't know they were really i do just statements on television use the ties to the corruption and. busy dishes are so intimate, it's, it is almost like you, it has it's, you know,
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bomb is to take it out and we'll see what must scan around this one we can do because it's a new, very new approach. and it's a 1st new thing that come along in american politics. and so more do you think uh, any of those uh, celebrities. the problem is to emigrate. if trump was elected beginning to understand the class dimension, why? people of color voted for trump in increasing numbers. why the people that are being left behind by the dnc? yeah. why is that? those selected these? i know a few of those libraries, personally from my hollywood days. there besides being monumental hypocrites because they had, you know, they're literally like, because engineers at the same time is they're complaining about what's happening. is that the, i would say if 10 percent of them stay in 4 countries,
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i'd be amazed. and in reality, there aren't that many you are leaving it, they're just well known and you read about them on x or whatever. but it does not. they don't add up to a lot of people. i know ellen degenerate has, has moved to the cuts was okay. big deal, even britain and helen digit is a, is called to be in a movie and los angeles. she just gets the private jet goes to los angeles. there is no, it is no sacrifice involved in this at all. our international audience with no, she is, but apparently she has some tool coast who was i think auntie on the adoption was but also in the, in television before who knows no one's ever heard of it miss nbc ivan. but of course, with a lot of these words it, it may be too late with a lot of them. the embrace power for pilots sake. they were never really on any kind of idea of left and they'll just bag,
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like i understand some on television. are some networks a, you know, it going up tomorrow a logo to pray to for forgiveness from the drum. yes. uh yeah. i as well, you know, you could go to a worse place, you know, this is good. the other way it is good is that since you passed twice because no one r f k junior said the wintertime r s k junior says the food is terrible to um, but anyway i can, we, can we not expect any russian agent uh stuff. i mean, i know just to see gab and overseeing the ca, she's come under a huge amount of the usual propaganda that we followed after russia gate would subside a little. this still repeating the lies against uh uh, can we expect more of these? um, fake russian dossiers. and everyone associated with donald trump is secretly working, providing me a persian a. yeah, probably a true a few,
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but they're not going to have as much power because they really blew the 1st one with the, with the big rush, hopes thing. and i think virtually everybody knows that was a freud. so, you know, once you pull something off like that and then you blow it, you can't, they'll go back to it. i mean, watching the heroes of tulsa gab, it'll be interesting because i, i have a projected she'll do very well, because she is a smart cookie. and she knows how to handle or sell for a television, but the, you know, they'll come back to, if it is not going to be very powerful because they've already done it and they've already blew it simple. so, you know, people know, i mean, do the great thing about what's happening in america today is the old mainstream, me is, does it, does it normally pay, nobody believes or not even themselves. so, you know, it's in order to pull off. i oh, they're really
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a rush of age and b s. you have to have that kind of re power behind you. wish they had the beginning, but they all have now. and just finally, i mean, obviously war and peace. there's been so much war under biden harris. how seriously and you know people that are close to trump. i know tucker carlson, the loved you a book and it's a good cause and says there are lobby's forcing was on american administrations. can we expect trump to actually seek peace around the world as opposed to what bible is done, or will it be pressured by the military industrial complex? you can trust that to do it. you're just saying about trump is the, you know, the, the election negatives. people have a bad truck, the new certainly a braggart executive bit, you know? like, you know, like brighthurt's of then you won't lie a truck. but the,
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but the thing about trump is it. and we notice from this 1st term and you see it is compared to 90 percent of the policy issues. the guy does what he says is good to and you know, he's already rich. he's already the most famous person on the planet. what does he have to get? what does he have to gain by uh, not going over to the military, industrial complex. absolutely nothing. but there is a good news for the, for that same top collection truck that is, trump is a real believer in the stronger military in order to have fees. he's one of these bees really straight guys and vince of so don't be spending money on a gun. and so that's for sure. there won't be any peace dividend or infrastructure in the united states. the kind of infrastructure you write about in your work, res. uh, i think you've got a point there. i've heard that some more worries employee that some who i see, i mean, they're concerned about it. but up the, you know, he does really believe is, you know,
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uh strong military ed. and he's also getting rid of all the work stuff in the military. thank god. i mean, that was really ridiculous. so, but uh, you know, the, the extra money for infrastructure, you know, they, they're going to be finding that and especially with all across kind of going on is . so i didn't exactly figure unless he's right that a energy bill nearby and stays can solve it all. but um, well, you know, as we say as bad as levels of l i. c roger assignment. thank you. as you're welcome, that's it for the show. i'll continue condolences to those very by u. k. u. s. u i'm jen is i didn't guys, this is bombing of lebanon, iraq, gavin, syria and around. we'll be back for the final episode of the season on monday with best selling economics, older and full of authentic and, and us intelligence advisor, jim records, who will give us some warnings about 2025. and you'll then keep in touch my role as
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social media results sense in your country and what channel going into guaranteed be hon. they'll come to us and you know that besides i'm going on the ground. so you monday, the there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case for the med, most of the people. i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also of soon, this is the 3rd world lunacy re washing as for so the funder line likes to say, we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals to be living on that we have very close propaganda. you know a price here in new york, i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. the more questions ask the better the answer

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