from russia, for i was part russian. i didn't plan on staying this long and i was gonna look around, i was gonna see if it was for me that like it, maybe i'll look at some properties come back in a few more years after i'm retired. and then just finish out life in russia, but then i came and then i was like, i remember when i go home, that's how i felt about rush. i love it. i love it so much here that i don't even want to leave. i just want to travel around rush, i have no desire to go to any other country. the i've never been here in rush, so the i've only lived here a few months. but i wanted to tell you what fascinates me about russia and share the stories of other foreigners who lived here. like jay who worked as a chef and now raises godes and makes cheese in the countryside. like chess who has been granted political asylum because he's being persecuted by the f

b. i like an american family. that recently moved to russia with 6 children the year. we are happy to be here. this is my friend joe. a few months ago he immigrated to russia with his large family. now i'm on the way to visit him. i want to find out why he decided to move here and how he likes it in russian to how you doing. pretty good. the joe is an i t program manager. he worked in many large companies including microsoft, but he gave up everything and moved to russia with his wife and 6 children. and now they're about to have a 7. so apparently they had a very good reason to relocate,

says he talk you interested? no, i think to be honest, we've 1st rich the same conclusion. some states have had issues where they've come in and they've removed the child from here because they're claiming the child's being abused by not being able to think it was uh, is 6 states in less than 6 months past these laws that even a 5 year old kid can be taken away from their parents and take them to the hospital and shop a lot. yeah. that's just the reality we've uh and people ask us okay, well, i mean like, is it ramped and is it happening to like everybody have you been threatened with that? no, i'm not an idiot. don't wait around for this stuff to continue to progress because that's what's been going on for the last several decades. a lot of people with traditional values wouldn't take the agenda, right? they wouldn't take the a slash, a lot of traditional teachers, anywhere. the flushing traditional switches out of the system that's filling it up with cuckoos. and these people likes child stressed out that being bullied. so they

send them home with where maybe your upset cuz you're actually the rooms and like maybe you're actually just helping people going on here. and they actually condition is chosen to do that. and so it's, it's going on. and the amount of schools that have had secret classes one recently where they were having classes after school every day for a year. and they were actually, they weren't doing art at all. oh, actually transgender crossing this is that the article as well, sir, who you, these parents to children were attending on clock. literally this complete in version. we're perfectly fine shaming you if you're a straight white male is you have a lot of kids, people to walk up to my wife, make rude comments. all are available, say the many things. if you take care, you know, nobody could criticize the coming out to me. children who are behavior is let me see what she says are you out of your mind. and she still explaining to me

everybody's terrified. there's no freedom of speech in america anymore. yes, there's nothing really mean about l g b, d organization or anything like that. oh, you'll be black, docks for life. people had to down no joke. i took a picture of christmas day because we had a boy's hand. this is like the most traditional in the angle world, both the boys had and, and their i b decked with bays and rosemary and somebody tag this animal rights activist group. put out my name where i worked, who the phone numbers to like, oh my complaint, we want that press read for eating a pigs had by the here in russia. you can say what you think were out loud and the most relieving thing in the world. you actually are like me, this is actually really enjoyable. you can make jokes about this sort of stuff. nobody would, you know, cancel you or try to dock too or anything like that. you're talking about it,

it was fine. whenever you're moving on the what about health care you, are you all worried about getting like the kids to a doctor or because oh okay. well i told him, i mean this goes from the end of last year and i had to go get a surgery. i was just like, oh great, awesome. so like, this is over for us because i'm going to drop, you know, tens of thousands of dollars on this, which i would have definitely in the states. i have like one of the best orthopedic surgeons. like 5 star level hospital room, 1300 bucks. yeah. my says pregnancy ended up being on medicare stay and i think the bill was a $100000.00. we got a big discount on it because it was self pay. it was like $80000.00 and then we had the medical sharing. but still it was like intense wiley, lucel's equity russian see, are you a little russian more tables? one of the special ed sees high chance look at me in the morning and make money hit

save t. what were your thoughts before coming to russia with a special military operation? and how did you feel? were you worried that there was going to be like more on the outskirts of moscow? are you all i know? yeah, no, i thought there was going to be a war and i didn't want to be sitting, you know, at home in the middle of kansas down the street from fort riley when the, let me just say that i feel a lot safer here. right? than i do in america, if actual world war 3 breaks out, much, much better to be here. we don't have any kind of defense that could suit anything that i mean, right? something goes on over in the interstate, it's over me. you know, i remember right before we left, we, uh, we heard reports, the russian nuclear sub just pops his head up right off the coast of dc. hey, we're right here, just so you know, don't forget that we're right here. so there's nothing that you're going to defend

against. uh, this goes sideways for the whole world, the euro. russian. so you love this house. what are the learning funny the, so we're on the way to meet somebody who is pretty famous here in russia. he's a farmer and ex pat has been here since the 19 ninety's, so he shouldn't give us an interesting perspective on how things have changed here . one of the things he's most known for is cheats. so today i'm hoping that we can see some cheese for section and get some need some animals on his farm,

the tobacco excuse me, another americans. so various idea of who was coming. yeah, on the another yang of your story. we're going to go bill to go. all right, awesome. it's hard to believe. now. the jay was a famous chef to even go to the rolling stones. he used to run several restaurants in moscow. he was also a dare devil biker in radio host, but he gave it all a sort of submarine which he had bored in france and bought land in the countryside . then he built a house and moved here. is that, let's get in to cabs one boil in 3 years. we'll have lead milk. i agreed and they're going 3 years later the rope starts and what are you going to do which are related to milk? that's how jay started making cheese. and would you believe it? he became one of the most famous cheese makers in russia. although when he 1st came

here, you couldn't imagine anything of the sorts. 3 things shooting at the white nose and it was there was no money for us. was in the hospital's wall in a barge and everything was really bad. you mean, i couldn't imagine that. another country surviving. i think americans would die hungry. i didn't leave it right away. i came for 10 days and 20 days and 40 days and was 61, a senior role role and more like home. i would start to go to other countries and i just want to get back on to russia. so it's home, i say to people, hey, if you could live in a rush, you could live anywhere in the world. it's not easy here. i mean, of course it's hard at some of the language of the alphabet, of the culture. several shake hands under a doorway. the boxes, salt on the table. man, it's thousands of. i don't believe in the life of the divine judge wouldn't because

it's like a habit. i asked jay if he's afraid to stay in russia after all, our countries have a very troubled relationship. the us embassy regularly urges people to leave. but this is what happened before when birth or the 16th june was probably a little garcey. there was not getting a to communist room, full draining all their gains on the tv. they were the ones writing the programs. right. better denver read was of love. it was the anybody you a long here was economy. anybody out of the variety of was calling is like this river stuff. the russians are killed tv, maybe trump, for president or hillary, clint bailey. they linked or e mails and all the modules for hang on. how many elections have we got in june? right. how many o as in session nations of elected officials and we actually done re,

re more against the paper because there were no problems which are religious things that the russians available. right? when really wishing me like the biggest brands, i don't understand that at all. jay's business is going well and things have been going particularly well since a europe imposed sanctions banning in ports of choosing to rush and j as in suffering from the new sanctions either or so. i don't think it's possible extinguishing to fax you wait. tabasco sauce made in the usa sanctions or failed. ok. what's the address? yeah, well, i think version of the same dollars. same ice cream. you know, the oil you made in the usa, even j will confirm sanctions and russia have failed. he ordered this on amazon,

which is why i'm always ordering things. a j had to take his car to the garage today for an oil change and i have decided to go with them. i want us to it. car service is like in the russian hinterland. the release of russian states never is as tight as i'm wondering. the most sense community best most i'll send send up the keys 195 and speed the one else holes. question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on the rush to day and split the ortiz full neck, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube. the question, did you say a request, which is the

test, the year ends, the incoming trump administration continues to believe it can end the conflict in ukraine. trump and his people are beginning to understand ending this conflict is more difficult than starting a war. the problem is moscow cube and washington wants different outcomes. oh, i sort of get sold. salt. salt in the roads. salt milk. uh yeah. so the milk smell the guys right. to me right of here. yeah. the guys that 1st know that option is done. you got it. you got it.

all right, let's see if we can 1st james car. let's wrap it for sure. the stuff. all right. looks like we're good to look at that. look at this beautiful villas to. wow. look you up the hill is amazing. place sir, this is a beautiful village by the way. a lot of people in america think these villages are just like falling apart. so a lot of your neighbors coming to buy choose from you. yeah. googling by cheese or master class. they learn how to make jeans. oh, they come and learn how to make the james dropping his car off for an oil change. this is a russian brides look at that. doesn't really look too much different than an american garage that you find out in the middle of the country. so he'll bring home

reward. leave it under your ok, is there any upgrades or room for you? that's really what do you pay for oil change day? and like i'm dollars 10 dollars, 10 dollars. oh maybe $5.00. $5.00 is a good. let's go. the time is going to try and chase cheese. he has a small shop and many kinds of different cheese j says there are 50 varieties in total. so it's just part of the natural process every day. turn it over the rubber down or talk to good morning to next week. this is romano like was really good. this is

this is called to tell you and guard. so dried tomatoes, bell peppers. i mean, that'll be the russian shockley. yes, i'm a sick man, but you know, don't hold it against the heading to the northern capital of st. petersburg and american lives there whom the f. b i has been hunting for 18 years. he's on into polls, a red list. they tried to extradite him to the united states from different countries for types, you know, lives in russia. i've been following his story for a while, and i can finally personally ask why the f b i as after him i'm in st. petersburg rush right now. my 1st time, and it's probably the coldest day since i've arrived in russia. i am feeling it to my bones right now. the pills are due to

how you doing what you told me the role of the frozen as well where you can feel anything. oh, you came on think you brought this weather with you man. yeah, i'm not good either. so i don't know to go back and tell me a little bit about yourself. like, uh, what, what made you decide to come to russia? i received asylum. and so far as i know, the next man after snowden to get it, and that's american, us embassies and 4 countries that come after me is wild. and so we have a couple of theories, the one that most people come to me 1st like, oh, there's just a bunch of bureaucratic mistakes, but there's no way they raised our house in 2002 in cyprus. they have a huge fall on my wife. they've interrogated me, they've visited me in boulder in prison personally as the i came, they tried to make deals and also never come microsoft, i covered middle east and africa and i had several intelligence agency trying to recruit me to work for them. and when i kept saying no, they wanted to make an offer. i couldn't refuse and have

a history that to and is approvable, know because when they try and recruiters not like they leave the on a business card to say, hey, you know, i'm from the intelligence agencies, but very clearly there are 3 recruitment attempts. why is it that the f b i is looking for you on the website? they say that i legally retain my son, which is not because i had custody of my son anywhere is here to live in europe the and you can prove this. yeah. you all there and then they said they told the newspaper, the indictment, they said that i physically kidnapped him with the problem was, i was in the united states and neither was he the just 2 months prior. the same judge who set this whole thing up, put him on a plane using police to return to me because he was visiting his mother for the summer in the us and she didn't want to return them. and the judge said, no, he said the police take away a, put him on a plane and then he the same judge, basically the foundation for get up and that whole thing's been dismissed, but the feds weren't dismissed there in the and he's,

he's your strongest witness. in this case, and he is, he's 27 now. he's done news interviews on american television saying that he was never kidnapped and is all a far as the because when the guy does the sort of things, the only thing is ever fixed. it is massive publicity, i work the social media sometimes you see the dancing away after doing sort of thing and yeah, i'm a 49 year old bad man, but that's also tomato works. right? yeah, i have 150 to these by now and that's how it works. i had to order 2 police officers to physically movies my mother and put me on a plane back to my dad hollis. and i'm not that's a, this is actual insanity. chad sun now lives in the caribbean and he's still on the missing children's list. and chat is still on the wanted list. were you ever contracted by the government? no, no, never. do you think maybe and this is just me being curious, do you think that perhaps uh, something that you may have worked on for one of these companies might be

a reason for any of this i, i never worked on or anything that was secretive or anything sort of that i have built software that's been in the space station. it is used by the government, right? but it, it's communication software. when i moved to russia in early 2001, i married into a family and lived with a family who worked in a military aviation factory. and they didn't like suite the forest or the thing. and it's not like they could possibly get access to military technology. they were engineers, they had a good range. so these were close family members. and we lived in the same house phone for many years. and they had basically guess what an american be called top secret type. okay. and it became pretty evident that somebody in the american halogens agency had some kind of white dream that thought i could somehow black me on my family to get information. okay. it was never gonna happen. we never discuss this stuff. my family would never give me information about that. i would never ask

rush, i may have and i don't have to if there's, but maybe they offer me the asylum because i believe russian knows part about more case my case than i do. right. and maybe it was a thank you for you know, hey, you had the chance to turn on us when you didn't. i don't know. do you feel safe, ever returning to the united states of america? no. and you feel safe here? oh, absolutely. it is extremely secure. right, americans asked me all the time if that covers that yours to be safe and americans to be more safe in the cities here than they are whole. i say this a lot of people like back home i had a concealed weapons permit by the carry. hang on with me everywhere i went. and since i've been here, people ask you, what about your gun rights now? what's the need for it? you don't need a gun. there is an american to say that that's really amazing. the driver expected . i have a friend from new york and he lives here. and he says he got marked on average 3 times a year in new york. it's just, it's really crazy and i filled the metro's here and people like where the people to . yeah. where's the feet? yes, i drove out. i see the videos that all the time and they always ask the same thing

. like me, chat is asked a lot of strange question. turns on sick talk. recently he was asked if it's true that russia had run out of tomatoes. the american media often writes nonsense stories about russian and people believe them. so we decided to drive to the market and see for our center supposed month. oh wow. look at this place. funny. on the fish a bill next week, the fisher and 5. yeah. yeah. i think i used to be on your own. yeah. yeah, yeah. i have come to spy on your point to to get everybody as a they have to man is here or not. they said russian can i guess a minute and let's take a look. i think there's okay, so tell me does that look like a tomato? it in the middle, i like yeah, tomatoes, tomatoes, tomatoes,

all the way down to me is tomatoes, tomatoes. then all the way down command estimate estimate is. yeah, it's all 1st of all, look at these because i've seen this based on uh on already was look joe, look right over here or look at the gigs. is that amazing? got $32.00 boys, $1.00 and $1.00 of the belly. okay, we're good. i keep counting kids. i'm so paranoid because of america and america, i'm sorry. what i'd like tucked them into their jacket and walked on. yeah. either very high swings. papa has to be careful not to push you too. hi. okay. your wife was telling me when she's on the forms for like mothers and america. yeah. that they talk about not letting their children i guess not giving their children

a gender. oh yeah. that's so weird. yeah. i mean, it's not like, yeah it's, it's amazing really important up in america, not all, but it seems like a small portion i'd say are just framed i've never been felt safe for my entire life than living here. moscow is, feels very safe by people help us around the city all the time and moscow parts there everywhere. i mean, i've never had so much stuff for my kids to do ever in america, the, uh, the kids when they're like by themselves. mm hm. you like panic, like where's their parents? somebody's gonna take the kids from down here the cities. yeah. they had a part for a kid called world of fun. thousands of people over a decade, thousands of kids. it was being run by peter rates. and they were just taking kids and it was never getting reported on like these kids are just disappearing. but these theme parks, listen, i'm talking to the use aids here. just say, yeah,

in some ways i feel like i've already fulfilled my dream. i've gotten them out right now. it is just about stabilize. right. so that, that to me is the most important people like want to talk about, you know, oh, it's a, it's a bad thing to do something if you're running away and i get those comments on social media all the time. why did you run? mm. i didn't run i left, you know that this horrible thing that happened with the crocus. right? mm hm. everybody is like calling me from the states. hey, are you okay huh. and i'm like, what do you mean? should i be calling you every, every week? right. every day i cool, you live in chicago, should i call you on saturdays in the morning? are you okay? one thing has happened which is truly horrible. but since what the ninety's to 2000 . yeah. and, and, and you're calling me to see if i'm ok. no, i'm concerned about you, right? the what are your future plans?

so i'm looking for a job. now that i'm asylum i can work here legally, so that's great. i'd like to find a public thinking job or maybe something immediate on tv, something and st. petersburg. no, because i don't want to move them off, but most was great. but st. petersburg, my job, what do you like most about st. petersburg? why do you like this city? you know, as i've traveled to almost 70 countries, i've lived and 12, and it's really my experience of an entire world. i mean the people here as you see, if you even slightly brush into somebody that are something thanks to hold the doors feels like you're living in a small town. there's something magical about the city to me, the map easier. any time on the left you, i just want to come back in tomorrow. religion and country road to deal with my goats and my dogs and gads and like change i love reading change. so it's i can describe that is where you feel like it don't have to be your land in

a way or know where you are in wired away or an example to the people in their plans. now i'm assuming you're going to go for citizenship. absolutely. and you're not looking back, the sound of you, i get it is i totally get it. i've got about 6 or 7 people that want to come visit this year. right. but i've warned, every single one of them i said, you know, the worst part about visiting russia is when you get here, you don't want to lease 100 percent. so it's, you want to be a russian citizen. he asked me to evaluate you want to be a russian will absolutely. most of it. ready ready the

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able to start interested in them, what i'm seeing is still bothering you more than you are when you push the issue of the unbox remodeled and move up is to move, it'll lose you as mysterious. and when you go, i am sitting on the deal with my music. it'll go. i don't yeah. post the by the other was like if i use the yeah, i'm just thinking and then use face that. i mean 50, i good. i mean it goes can, was it please go ahead and always communicate that. maybe we can pull up national minds, but it just those we have the we have sort of don't push mojitos to the most video insights, but i don't think he will definitely stays funded on each of the. but you move in, would you spend these, these pretty you particularly see i'm saying is up with them. you've got thrown in . this is the one and then the other will be missing. the guns thing is some list of course the movies is so it in 90 is not old. on the side of me it's a lot that was up with that sort of

the hello and welcome to cross ok. we're all things are considered time peter level as the year ends, the incoming trumpet administration continues to believe it can in the conflict in ukraine. trump and these people are beginning to understand ending this come like is more difficult than starting a war. the problem is moscow cube and washington want different outcomes. the cross section ukraine i'm joined by my guess.