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danielle on israels who am a deputy foreign minister, next adviser of israel to the united states and by staff. welcome back to the program has been for you as a given is rose actions of lead to a run now almost daily, threatening your country. as a former advisor to netanyahu former investor to the usa, do you believe it, ron has nuclear weapons already front? it's the on the bottom, a deputy boss of is really intelligent thing. israel would lose in any conflict against iran that well 1st of all, the options good to be with you again a little while took us a few years to reconnect. nevertheless, i enjoyed your show. so a body, ron, i will tell you, i don't think that they are quite capable of designating that you agree with the vice although they may be on the customer. they do have enriched uranium not uh you know, what? not we have a great but enough to turn it into the web and then the dates,
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it will take them um few more months its not a year or so to recognize it. uh, so i don't think that they have it, but i think that is quite clear today with all, as you mentioned, catastrophic events uh, in the middle east and beyond that uh, the wrong use actually they, they had offer a, uh, a terror evarado, c, i a thought i was running a very radical machine, very uh um i was a dangerous one and they are actually using proxies around the lease that even gone back to. um, i guess bring about a new hedge of money where they would like to take over uh the middle. explain why they're using their love using us. it was obviously a run say that not proxies. these are just resistance groups that support iran. but having said what you just said, do you think now that is really the most dangerous place in the world to be a jew?
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i think oh, actually i think it's the, it's the safest way. ready to be a jo, unfortunately, as you mentioned and then we yeah. how you literally just told me that iran is on the verge, maybe of next year. having nuclear weapons. we're seeing all the resistance, was it? why is it safe to be jewish? because right. because because god describe the wrong and the danger from guy was he's only have to picture the other half. of course these are the search capabilities. ready on the 14th of april, a few months ago, they launched for the 1st time. and that also shows, by the way, yeah, the narratives. more than 300 and different rockets and, and drones, all of the bus one were interested and the best. and we know that the around says that those were deliberate decoys to get intelligence. but if i was going back to this point, you know how many jewish people are immigrating from israel? your call is in titles and people are leaving
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a mess from israel to i don't think so. you know, uh, actually i, i live here and i talk to people. uh, you know, these riley's jewels. it's large, but we, we like to complain to uh, discuss it to uh, you know, look at that issue from every corner. but the, know is ways are staying and actually we are more just coming from abroad, especially from the united states. and here again, you mentioned, you know, i was, the user is the standard today in the world for various reasons. but they, some of them are downright and i submitted and i'm very, somebody's also rice being the, by the, i just submitted. ah, you know, i'm actually moving ok, you know where you're only get onto that. i do want to get on to them and you just said people are leaving 30000 official figures leaving up till much between the november and much. so what are you talking about why these $30000.00 jews will
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leaving their leaving because israel is not a safe place to be jewish any more? surely. no, i think i think the solutions are wrong. and if you look at just maybe even wants to emigrate to not to leave, they keep their families here. so they are very, very small by, of, and the, you know, when the war started, we were, you know, savage dfacs, the mexico, the favorite service of october. we had thousands. if not more, of these riley's will lead abroad. were on the doors abroad. they were all gone, virginia and there were no places on the, on the coming slides. so this is not a problem whatsoever. is rarely these readings aren't quite resilient. we live with you, you know, why am i asking anyway, i'm asking, i'm asking because i or did you, is it the authority is it is real. keep talking about how israel is
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a place that say for years when many jews i would say and that the as per say, that was and what the time to visit. why do you think israel media was banned from reporting on lebanese resisting strikes on sion batch? most ad unit 8200, just in the past few days, because uh, let's say it was a 5 am reporting restriction in israel, blackout of all media. why was the media band from reporting on the successful resistance strikes on most ad unit, a transition bit less, a very good question. there was nothing to report about. and again i, i think that you want to pray angel propaganda either from tara, she's below the one. i don't know as i'm just sorry. i'm just asking about freedom of speech and freedom of the press. why there, there is nothing happened with the reporting restrictions, did you, did it 5 am on all of these really media? because all of them were interested to see you there cuz there is one thing every
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bank currently does. well, you know, we are an open country press errands, we'd really very, very energetic press. you cannot hide anything here. and so you didn't see any bobs at following, going to levy or anywhere else is just because it didn't have because that is when i failed. why would you need to put reporting restrictions? yeah, usually you should be crying about it and saying how successful israel was not banning all of these really media from covering it unless you're trying to cover something up and most ad unit. hey, do under to jim bet we're actually hit hard. no, no, no, no 3, actually i just drove by this morning. everything is in tax. there was a 3, a restriction, uh the restriction was only 4 days, rarely preemptive attack. and this was because of their security uh,
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considerations and uh, and that was it. but if you look at uh at the results, yes the be try to launch a why to if you uh, can't remember the number but with it being given uh in the hundreds. but they were all taken before they even launched and we did oh these. all right, sorry about that because reporting restrictions, i'm a journalist reporting restrictions where you're post. anything you say we cannot be corroborated because these are in the government is banning joining us from covering it. why does the israeli military headquarters? why is it 450 meters from a hospital entry level hospital on wise when street and tel aviv? why do the israelis puts the military structures near hospitals and schools in tel aviv labs in israel y? and i'm not sure that this is the case, you know, you for this stupid ass the same as why the 10s of on you know, a why the,
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in the industry or for the same. so people in their own efforts would be located in the capital and where the person is not 450 meters from one of washington's biggest shopping malls. why did the israelis place the facilities near hospitals and schools? there is no a deliberate say no. ready within the new schools or anything like that, and a, in any case the, the schools are say, is telling me the say because we have the best or miss old ballistic the defense ever. and this is why you see how to run. and because by the same time and again, where does these by law a successful when they use our daily communities, when they do it, when they tired it civilian homes. and when they do that, they say, you know, when they do get or grown a, uh, an open field. uh,
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it is what you see. but they are not coming in, not to be your back because they know it would be devastating. the uh, the situation is that this is what it is now by d. a modes i uh, x runs war. but as far as our intelligence capabilities, as far as our operational is illogical less rosie you still quite save here. and the results are that uh, on the one hand, you know, you guys, uh, we had some ice which at turn guys up into a one major bumper. uh, 400 the meters a or one seats, action deep house. and we both a layer and uh, i was a thousands of dollars. i was a very, a 100 of uh, i was just a little regional photos and we are taking them out and then operating banning janice swim, being able to cover the operation by the israeli government. we don't have
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successful. you being bid regarding why israel put their military facilities near jewish homes and jury schools, you'd find it acceptable then for the resistance voices to as collateral. damage is rarely hospitals to be destroyed. say the, it's a, it's a little while it's middle. if that gets destroyed, it's right next to the military headquarters, so it's just an acceptable collateral damage or no, i tell you what once you are referring to is just headquarters, which are offices. you have the offices, you don't have the guns done. they have the missiles or launchers, it's not at all like she's by law. and some of us were putting their launches inside the homes where we live, elizabeth, i had. ready the lebanese resistance offices at west main root, utah is there were offices when they just like the office retail of a as well. these are offices with their offices. unfortunately,
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you have done iris do not. and there are no guns at this is really military headquarters on fire has been street and tele be you know, you'll have there you have it or people go to work, you know the officers and it's not in need 0. it's the military headquarters dispatch but not in need terry installation. and by the way, again, you know, if you look at the results from us when they started their operation for their attack on the service of solar, ma'am they launched hundreds of uses. how many uses somebody's launching now? 0. why? because we systematically took them out because we know how to do better, says they same thing may happen to be cheap, but uh, if we decide these people that is not the, let's say why about this? but i will not will su, united nation, the security council resolution 71 by which they have to pull out. uh, they are illegal uh military uh, units you chose articles, but to be, uh,
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i'd say it's an issue that has to be according to 17. 0 one a has to be december, they did not do that. we will have to take care of that, right. okay, and that's exactly the blooms the address and best of them, the add on of stuff to you that more from the former is really deputy foreign minister. next, i'm pastor of israel to the united states after this break, the lease of russian states never is as tight as i'm sort of the most sense community best ingles, all sense and the in the system must be the one else calls. question about this, even though we will then in the european union,
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the kremlin media mission, the state on the rush of funding and supports the r t supposed net, keeping our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube, the student services for the question, did you say a request, which is the if you think about russia, what does your mind picture the bottom landscapes open up before your lines? the last one does,
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can you imagine the, the discounts dodge the journey? the, the, you ready to come along the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the former is really deputy foreign minister, next and basket of israel to the united states standing alone and bass to thank you so much. as i said, for your explanations, in part one of how you say the operations in is really being very successful. as i said, journalists are not allowed to go in and verify the claims made by israeli authorities and the ones you just made about one. but then what about these torture programs that are being covered in these riley media?
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what's the reason for as well as torture programs? it's a day to email and and then they give prison the you and special roplenger. alice deal edwards, itemizing jews sexually torturing arabs, prisoners as well. uh, actually do you remember upgrade of the, the american installation uh, were you talking about the united states when talk about is a fully democratic countries with the law band. originally, the many people would many people around the world don't think it'd be united states or his trail of countries or by the rule of a rule. there presidential candidate donald trump doesn't believe that the united states is currently a country of little over that. but, but still i see millions of people are trying to come to america. i don't see them are trying to be in china or easily, ron or a russian. so uh, i think uh we have to really understand, we are sorry, what was going to do with the torture and the negative prism. got because because i wanted to say the, just like the united states is where there was
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a little small. and why still are you loud? and there was no forward year is randy james and his son, and that's a rogue. the soldiers will jailers are doing anything. just legal, not only they are taken out, they are charged and they're bugs. they're staying prison. i think you are referring to one case where we have, i mean, these really, oh, sorry, it's actually arrested 5 people, 5 jailers and they are now under boise investigation and, and trials. so this is barely exceptional and they're you know, to every cooler portion of the original exception. but they, it's not like doing the wrong or, and the other kind of thing any, was to him i was demanding, raping expectation of prisoners in the run. i mean, the last i heard of the things like this was apple grave and it was the united states carrying out because polls in the united states. so most americans in the
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united states favour a palestinian state. i mean, clear now that your uh full, my boss is the only option is to draw the united states in to this conflict. and they run a bicycle of not being binding since the is rarely assassination of as well. any a and the what, what does israel going to do when the united states? the, whether it be this generation or the next says good by israel. we have israel because of what israel does as regards human rights violations. we are quite capable of sending our sales by our sales. ready sorry to jump so quickly, but you're not value because that's why the americans are giving you tens of billions or hundreds of millions of dollars weapons without the united states. you are, you don't have a country. i don't think so. if you look at the united states, the defense age, to natal, to south korea to japan,
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it's 100 times where the are doing with his with this right small rock security for operation. they enjoy our technology, their enjoy, our strategic and tactical lead. um, i would say he'd be innovations and also the us and this was our natural elyse because of assistance. you know, the democracies support democracy is not only that is where they know that the united states is what is the most dependable l i of the united states in the region at all. and is they need and they, they are interest east to have stability in the region. their interest is that not to, to have um, oil prices a height. they go easily and take care of the way i care of it by controlling arab neighbors. i don't, well it's how the you a, what do you mean controlling oil prices by sending in arms to israel?
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i mean, actually i was gonna ask about the about that. um, that is your view that the guys opperation which as i said, may have killed 10 percent of the population, which is equivalent of killing, say, 5 and a half 1000000 people in britain, 27000000 people in the united states. that's the proportion of numbers killed and guys are, according to the estimates from the lancet british ship medical journal. is it your view that what needs to happen now? is that every arrow being guys, i'm christian needs to go to the site and i does it? nope. so 1st of all, let me just correct one thing when i was hoping, but what prices, you know, be the reduced to being the, the least low prices are being dictated. basically in the gulf countries, united states, although it is now self sufficient on energy supply, they don't need an oil prices high because it's inflation and everything goes with
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it. so this is why they need to be, this is why they need a strong is work where it is ready to an origin. was heard on the 7th of october. it was very important to re establish these details. it's how do you really establish these areas by meaning it gets old for the service of tauriel, enjoying the tyrants anymore. there's 11, he's been bombing his railing. the past few days around bombed israel for the 1st time ever. in the past few months. human is a booming israel, i don't even remember when it lasted that it doesn't have any deterrence, but i'm just asking why on the hood you, you think that the oil prices in any way a to, to do it this and whether the, the numbers killed actually you know, the, israel's reputation right now is in tacit full around the world as well. yes. and this is very unfortunate and again, dear,
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i think that the true story is not being revealed. like you are telling me about millions of, uh, cousins being killed, which is not big of uh, even near the st. millions of those proportion that's based on the british. of course. yeah, it's a good, proportionate use. this is not corrosive because i tell you what they had the boss terrorist because they are mostly here. so at the bell, no official. no. do we know you're not allowing john? listen, listen, we are getting guys. you know, these guys right now, there's another guy we are you guys? if i like you to guys are in your deliberately not allowing john, listen, the guys, you'll be very, you'll be very welcome. when they say right now, the sold will be drafted on terroristic batches, and you are taken care of. so you can tie because the want to spare, big guys on people who are not involved. but most of the people that were killed
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were, are because they were from us members and some boss is the what are you themselves and positioning themselves? nothing. you're saying can be verified because you're not allowing janice and you're saying it's not safe. i was in damascus. during the war, which is well supported against outside with the european union in the united states, they didn't have a problem with journalists going in, well, uh, there was a, your old boss. net and you know, treating isis dash on the golan heights. we saw pictures of the why is it you're not responding about the plan for guys? because you said that on the, on the guitar or a television station, you're on this guitar a television station saying you want to people who have guys that to go to sign that is that still your view? no, no. what i meant was that they should clear the way, you know, just use and see billions and guys that should clear the way this would have been the best. well the. ready way so the, some us, you know,
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i would face is really military face to face model model and not. busy go behind them, you know, what's happened with this of us is that they like cowards. they are hiding behind the civil populations and they were targeting our civil populations. no more because we took out all their uh, business capabilities and now it's a mobile ration. but i can tell you that i'll, i'll give you some numbers and you're not very fiber because they all come from from us. and they talk about 40000 that i can tell you out of these 40000 that more than 20000 are a terrorist armed terrorist. and the racial of $1.00 to $1.00 is the lowest in the allowing jonathan. so we kind of verified that it's in your interest to tell me that. so 2000000 a palestinian to me, you know, about indians have to leave guys and go into the desert to live in tents, which is what you've said on the board. and then what i'll and then you'll destroy
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garza even more kill everyone left. and then how many of that? so then the 2000000 can then come back to god. so is that your plan and the plan of netanyahu? yeah. but this, well, yeah, but obviously this plan in the place and this is wide. so unfortunately some of the casualties and long disability is about the, the plan for guys that is very simple. each to view radicalized guys on the militarized does it as it used to be. busy to dramatically agreements when this happens and of course we would very much like to see a prosperous guys up as we planned for you on a 2005 august 2005 is realistic guys altogether to the last page, given us hopefully to a new era, but from us to over, they actually had to put it up against the 040. they were cheap housing authority officials. they took over as you already know. you can't lie other day. did you in
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the west bank where we're running out of time. i've just got to ask you, you've long wanted the saudi arabia to join the abraham accords at why do you think it is where it has no chance whatsoever of that dream that you and then it and yahoo administration and it's people, one of saudi arabia joining if anything is there is more isolated than that, but you have an economy intact as jews a leaving whole mess. and you are preparing for the onslaught. i think a lebanese resistance and the reigning government saying, oh the waiting game is positive it, those jews will never be going back to the north. will they anytime soon? i as well, i'm sorry to take an issue, but i think of what you've said. he's fine for the prison off the ryan, and that is belong to stock really not true. they have their teachers maybe to kind of bolster their. busy own the equal and maybe more out because they are really
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low. busy so very low point and i would say one bit, there was only one solution for peace and prosperity in the middle east. is that it is from sony countries, israel, united states, and nato, heavy and alliance. as we are having now against the forces of people which are the running, they have told us, piece by law a how boss and the i have been forced is north korea and russia, some guys, china. so there are 2 camps here, and there is no doubt which camp is winning and which camp will continue to win. and that one more thing, the gulf countries and so on, your area, they age, race in knowledge because they have problems. no, just the security issues from may you right? that's right. some wrong, but also it's uh the future for um, uh for security and what are available is this is where is what is number one in the world. okay? but it's number one is feeling walter, according to the why the countries,
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the countries are friends with anyone. but every one i should, i should say. and certainly a, you know, they have good relations with china and russia and the russian, china understand what to what nato is doing. of course, in west, in your a. but i began this by talking about the 2nd world war you. what do you think of the line such figures? then this amman and british journal saying that a 186000 may have been slaughtered by u. k. u. s. a u weaponry in the hands of the israelis equivalent, as i said, proportionately to 5 and a half 1000000 people, men, women, and children, mostly women and children killed in britain or 27000000 in the usa. what do you think of that? british british medical journal, the lines that as well, again, i think you're is, this is born always downright blind. and you mentioned this is like this was positioning in the world is not the best because of the. ready bible's and with the lies it gets us which, you know, we are not very yeah. capable of dyslexia because of their basic doing great. i
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would love that all the study was peer review. why would they make what a delightful you look comparing valencia to the nazis i they are. i would say that the i have told us of the wrong we, the proxies like this is blah and the, you know, one in there she, i. e, l, ice weather associated emissions, you the rock or in syria or the image medical gen a big well they, they, are they downright terrorist and, you know, unfortunately you know, well on the, ever i say why you say, but we're out of time about them. thank you. thank you very much. that's it for the show. i'll continue condolences to those very by u. k. u. s. and you, i'm genocide, will be back with a brand new episode on that day until then keep in touch my role as social media. if it's not sensitive and your country has one channel going undergoing tv on rumble, they'll come to engineering old episodes of going undergrad, 2 sides of the
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