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on the leaves is trying to move to the regime in a, some of the know about the going on to see at some point that of the on the sun is trying to, she's the t d b, but it got a song now said that this is bob saw them to match the d we each. this is a red line for us. we will not accept the activities of 2. we could tell about unpackaged on from afghanistan oil, and we will defend pockets don's territorial integrity. at any cost, the government must adopt a clear stance against the ttp. as far as the casualties looked into the numbers, the very unclear as opposed to countries according to some numbers. but what have been given to one of the status is that many of the casualties include women as well as children, while by rows of others. and he is always the target company with us here on hockey international off next to an option with tennessee on going on the line. and we'll
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be back in about 30 minutes. the, i'm actually in redundancy and welcome back to going underground rule got single around the world from the u a. 85 years since the 2nd world war erupt is with germany's invasion opponent the world that faces the threats of another catastrophic conflict. this time ignited by his rails relentless war and gone into the british lines that john les debates, perhaps 186000. nearly 10 percent may have been killed. doctor john list infants entire families wipe from existence while under the guise of self defense back by the united states, which is funneled over 50000 tons and weapons and military hardware into israel.
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docile beneath his rails much folded, i am doomed. as a nation in turmoil, fractured by the political divisions of military reportedly stretched been an international reputation that's plummeting. is israel up up to self destruction and how much longer can account in washington as more americans question that government's backend of a regime seen as a liability joint? i mean after and tel aviv is done the island, israel's home, a deputy foreign minister, next ambassador of israel to the united states. and by staff. welcome back to the program as being for you as a given is rose actions of lead to a run. now, almost daily, threatening your country as a former advisor to an at yahoo, a former investor to the usa. do you believe it? ron has nuclear weapons already front? it's the on the bottom, a deputy boss of is really intelligent thing. israel would lose in any conflict against iran. a good, well 1st of all a actually it's good to be with you again a little while. took us a few years to reconnect. nevertheless, i enjoyed your show. so a body, ron, i will tell you,
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i don't think that they are quite capable of designating nuclear device. uh, although they may be under customer feet. they do have uh enrich uranium not uh you know, what? not we have a great but enough to turn it into the web and then the dates, it will take them um 2 more months. its not a year or so to recognize it. uh, so i don't think that they have it, but i think that is quite clear today with all, as you mentioned, catastrophic events uh, in the middle east and beyond that uh, the wrong use actually they, they had offer a uh, a terror. evarado. see, i got the run over a very radical machine, very uh, items a dangerous one. and they are actually using proxies around the lease that even gone back to. um, i guess bring about
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a new hedge of money where they would like to take over uh, the middle is the why they're using their love using us. it was obviously a run say that not proxies. these are just resistance groups that support iran. but having said what you just said, do you think now that is really the most dangerous place in the world to be a jew? i think oh, actually i think it's the is still the safest way. ready to the ego unfortunately, as you mentioned, um really yeah. how you literally just told me that iran is on the verge, maybe of next year. having nuclear weapons. we've seen all the resistance, was it? why is it safe to be jewish? because right? because because i've described the wrong and the danger from guy was he's only half the picture. the other half, of course is our defense capabilities. ready on the 14th of april, a few months ago. ready they launched for the 1st time, and that also shows, by the way, yeah,
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that it was either narratives. more than 300 different rockets and, and drones all over the bus one were interested. and um, the best thing we know that the ron says that those were deliberate decoys to get intelligence. but if i was going back to this point, you know how many jewish people are immigrating from israel? your call is in titles and people are leaving a mess from israel to i don't think so. you know, uh, actually i, i live here and i talk to people. uh, you know, uh these riley's jewels at large and what we like to complain to uh, discuss it to uh you know, look at that issue from every corner but. busy no rays are saying, and actually we are more just coming from abroad, especially from the united states. and here again, you mentioned, you know, i also use was the standard thing to, for various reasons. but say some of them are downright and i submitted. and i'm
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very somebody's also rice and by the i just submitted, ah, you know, i'm actually moving ok, you know where you're only get onto that. i do want to get on to that. been you just said people are leaving 30000 official figures leaving up till much between the november and much. so what are you talking about why these $30000.00 jews will leaving their leaving? because israel is not a safe place to be jewish any more? surely. no, i think i think the solutions are wrong. and if you look at just maybe even wants to emigrate, you know, to lead. they keep their families here. so they are very, very much bye of and the, you know, when the war started, we were, you know, savage, the attack, these mexico, the bear with the service of october. we had thousands. if not more, of these riley's will lead abroad. were on the doors abroad, they were all gone,
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virginia and there were no places on the, on the coming slides. so this is not a problem whatsoever. is rarely, these readies are white and resilient. we live with you, you know, why am i asking anyway, i'm asking, i'm asking because i or did you, is your thoughts? are it is it is real. keep talking about how israel is a place that say for years when many jews i would say in the d as per say, that was and what the time to visit. why do you think israel media was banned from reporting on lebanese resistance strikes on? shouldn't match most ad unit 8200 just in the past few days because that's it was a 5 am reporting restriction in israel, black out of all media. why was the media band from reporting on the successful resistance strikes on most ad unit, a transition bit less, a very good question. there was nothing to report about. and again, i think that uh, you want to pray into propaganda either from tara,
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she's below the one. i don't know as i'm just sorry, i'm just asking about freedom of speech and freedom of the press. why there, there is nothing happened with the reporting restrictions institute, did it 5 am on all of these really media? because all of them were interested to see you there is, there is one thing. every bedroom currently does rent, you know, we are an open country press errands. we'd really very, very energetic press. you cannot hide anything you're a. so if you didn't see any boss following, going to levy or anywhere else is just because it didn't have because that is when i failed, why would you need to put reporting restrictions? yeah, usually you should be crying about it and saying how successful is or it was not banning all of these really media from covering it unless you're trying to cover something up unless that unit hey do under the gym. bet were actually hit hard. no,
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no, no, no 3, actually i just drove by this morning. uh, everything is in tax. um, there was a 3, a restriction uh the restriction was only 4 days, rarely preemptive attack. and this was because of their security uh, considerations and uh, and that was it. but if you look at uh the results, yes the be try to launch a why to if you uh, can't remember the number but with it being given uh in the hundreds. but they were all taken before they even launched and we did it. oh these. all right, sorry about that because reporting restrictions, i'm a journalist reporting restrictions where you're both anything you say we cannot be corroborated because these are in the government as binding during the storm covering it. why does the israeli military headquarters? why is it 450 meters from
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a hospital entry level hospital on wise when street in tel aviv? why do the israelis put the military structures near hospitals and schools in tel aviv labs in israel y? and i'm not sure that this is the case, you know, you for the stupid ass the same use by the time to go on, you know, a why the, in the industry or say the same. so people in their own efforts would be located in the capital and went away. the packaging is all 450 meters from one of washington's biggest shopping malls. why did the israelis place the facilities near hospitals and schools? there is no a deliberate say no. ready was in the near schools or anything like that. and a, in any case the, the schools are say, is tell a beauty, say, because we have the best or miss old ballistic defense ever. and this is why you see how to run. and because by the same time and again,
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where does these by law a successful when they use our daily communities, when they do it, when they target a civilian homes. and when they do, let's just say, you know, when they do gets or grown a, uh, an open field, it is what you see. but they are not coming in, not to be your back because they know it could be devastating. the uh, the situation is that this is what it is now by d a modes i x runs war. but as far as our intelligence capabilities, as far as our operational is a logical less, rosie, you still quite save here and the results are back on the one hand, you know, you guys, we have a mouse which has turned guys up into a one major bumper
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a 400 the meters, a or one seats, action deep house. and we both a layer and i was of thousands of dollars. i was a very, a 100 of i'm just below regional photos and we're taking them out and then operate spending. janet a swim being able to cover the operation by the israeli government. we don't have successful you being bid regarding why israel put their military facilities near the jewish homes and jewish schools. you'd find it acceptable then for resistance forces to as collateral. damage is rarely hospitals to be destroyed, say the, it's a, it's a little while it's little. if that gets destroyed, it's right next to the military headquarters, so it's just an acceptable collateral damage. you know, i tell you what once you are referring to is just headquarters, reach our offices, you have the offices, you don't have the guns, we don't have the missiles or launchers. it's not, you know,
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like she's by law. and some of us were picking their launches inside the homes where we were, what was the lebanese resistance offices at west b route? utah uses, they were offices where they just liked the offices retail away as well. these are offices with their offices. unfortunately, you have done iris do not. and there are no guns at this is really military headquarters on fire has been street and tele be you know, you'll have there, you have the people go to work, you know the officers and it's not in need 0. it's a military headquarters dispatch but not in need terry installation. and by the way, again, you know, if you look at the results from us when they started, they are operation for their attack. on the 7th of solar lamb they launched hundreds of uses. how many users, somebody's watching now, 0. why?
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because we systematically took them out because we know how to the center says the same thing may happen to increase. but if we decide these people that is not the let's say why about this? but i will not suppose to united nation the security council resolution 71 by which they have to pull out. they are illegal uh military units. we chose our goals, but to be i'd say it's militia that has to be according to 17 o one, a has to be slap or big enough to do that. we will have to take care of right exam as the blooms, the address and best of any alan of stop you that more from the former is really deputy foreign minister. next, i'm pastor of israel to the united states after this break the,
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the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the former is rarely deputy foreign minister, next and basket of israel to the united states. danny island and bass to thank you so much. as i said, for your explanations in pub, one of how you say the operations in is really being very successful. as i said, journalists, i'm not allowed to go in and verify the claims made by israeli authorities and the ones you just made about one. but then what about these torture programs that are being covered in these riley media? what's the reason for as well as to what's your programs, it's a day to email and in the negative prison the you and special rapids or alice deal edwards, itemizing jews sexually torturing arabs business as well. uh, actually do you remember upgrade uh the, the american installation. uh, what are you talking about the united states. what i'm talking about is
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a fully democratic countries with a little slow than the originally the many people with many people around the world . don't think it'd be united states or his trailer of countries or by the rule of a rule there. presidential candidate donald trump doesn't believe that the united states is currently a country of little over that. but, but still i see millions of people are trying to come to america. i don't see them are trying to be in china or easily, ron or a russian. so uh, i think uh we have to really understand, we have, i'm sorry, what was going to do with the torture and the negative prison. got because because i wanted to say just like the united states is where there was a little a lot and watch the review review letter and there was no forward year is randy james and each son and that's a rogue. the soldiers, jailers are doing anything, just legal, not only they are taken out, they are charged and they're bugs. they're staying prison. i bet you are referring
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to one case where we have, i mean, these really, oh, sorry, is actually arrested 5 people, 5 jailers. and they are now under boeing's investigation and, and trials. so this is barely exceptional. and they're, you know, to every who love watching the originally exception. but they smoked like doing the wrong or the other kind of thing any was to him i was demanding, raping, expectation of prisoners in the run. i mean, the last, i heard of the things like this is apple graham and it was the united states carrying out because polls in the united states, you know, most americans in the united states favour a palestinian state. i mean, clear now that your uh full, my boss is the only option is to draw the united states in to this conflict and iran and not biting of not being biting since the is early as, as a nation of as well. any a and the what,
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what is this real going to do when the united states? the, whether it be this generation or the next is good by israel. we have israel because of what israel does as regards human rights violations. we are quite capable of defending ourselves by ourselves way. ready sorry to jump to quickly, but you're not value because that's why the americans are giving you tens of billions or hundreds of millions of dollars weapons without the united states. you are, you don't have a country. i don't think so. if you look at the united states or defense, 8 to natal, to south korea to japan, it's 100 times what the are doing with is with this right? small rock security for operation. they enjoy our technology. they're enjoy our strategic and tactical lead. um, i would say he'd be innovations and also the us and this was our natural elyse
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because of assistance. you know, the democracies support democracy is not only that is where they know that the united states is what is the most dependable l i of the united states in the region at all. and is they need and they, they are interest east to have stability in the region. their interest is that, not to, to uh, have um, oil prices a height they know easily and they care. why do i care of it by controlling arab neighbors? i don't, well it's how the you a, what do you mean controlling oil prices like sending in arms to israel? i mean, actually i was gonna ask about the about that um to use your view to the guys opperation, which as i said, may have killed 10 percent of the population, which is equivalent of killing, say, 5 and a half 1000000 people in britain, 27000000 people in the united states,
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that's the proportionate numbers killed and guys are, according to the estimates from the lancet british ship medical journal. is it your view that what needs to happen now? is that every arrow being garza and christian needs to go to the site and i does it? nope. so 1st of all, let me just correct one thing when i was talking about what prices, you know, the reduce, the baby and the lease prices are being dated basically in the gulf countries united states, although it is now self sufficient on energy supply. they don't need an oil prices high because it's inflation and. busy it goes with it. so this is why they need to be, this is why they need a strong is right where it is ready to its origin. was heard on the 7th of october. it was very important to re establish these details. it's how do you re establish these arrows by meaning it gets old and the so they kentoria
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enjoy the tyrants anymore. the love it needs to be bombing his railing. the past few days around bombed israel for the 1st time ever. in the past few months, human is a bombing israel. i don't even remember when he lost it, that it doesn't have any deterrence, but i'm just asking why on the hood you, you think that the oil prices in any way a to, to do it this and whether the, the numbers killed actually, you know, the, israel's reputation right now is in tacit all around the world as well. yes, and this is very unfortunate and again, dear, i think that the true story is not being reviewed. like you are telling me about millions of, uh, guys as being killed, which is not big off uh, even near the st. millions the proportion. it's based on the british version. yes. the quadratic proportionate use these, these not corrosive because i tell you what they have the mice terrorist because
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they are mostly you. so at the bell? no official. no. do we know you're not allowing john? listen, listen, we are getting guys. you know that you guys right now, there's another guy here. you guys have, i'd like you to, to guys are in your deliberately not allowing john la cindy. as julie berry, you'll be very welcome. when he'd say right now, the sold will be draft its own terroristic pressures and you're taking care of it and stating guy, because we want to spare the guys and people who are not involved. but most of the people that were killed were, are because they were from us members and somebody us is the what are you them sales and positioning themselves? nothing. you're saying can be verified because you're not allowing janice and you're saying it's not safe. i was in damascus during the war, which is well supported against the side, with the european union in the united states. they didn't have a problem with journalists going in, well, uh, there was a,
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your old boss. net and you know, treating isis dash on the golan heights. we saw pictures of the why is it you're not responding about the plan for guys? because you said it was that you sent me on the guitar or a television station. you're on this guitar, a television station saying you want to, people have guys that to go to sign. that is that still your view? i don't know what they meant was that they should clear the way you know it was it was. ringback civilians and guys that should be under way this would have been the best for the. ready way so the some us, you know, would face is really military face to face model a model and not the go behind them. you know, what's happened with this of us is that they like cowards. they are hiding behind the civil populations that they were targeting our civil populations. no more because we took out all their uh, this is going to be reduced and now it's a mobile ration. but i can tell you this. i'll give you some numbers and you're not
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totally verifiable because they all come from from us. and they talk about 40000 that i can tell you out of these 40000 that more than 20000 are a terrorist armed terrorist and the racial one to one is the lowest in the allowing jonathan. so we kind of verified that it's in your interest to tell me that so 2000000 palestinian 2000000 or both indians have to leave guys and go into the desert to live in tents, which is what you've said on the board. and then what i'll and then you'll destroy garza even more kill everyone left. and then how many of that? so then the 2000000 can then come back to god. so it's not your plan on the plan. i'm letting you know who yeah. but this well yeah, but obviously this plan in the place and. ready this is wide, so unfortunately some of the casualties among disability is about the the plan for guys that is very simple. each to view radicalized guys. the device does it as it
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used to be. busy to the dramatically agreements when this happens. and of course we would very much like to see a prosperous guys up as we planned for you on a 2005 august 2005 is realistic guys altogether to the last page. given us hopefully up to a new era, but from us to over, they actually had to put it up against the 040. they were cheap housing authority officials. they took over as you all righty now. you can't lie other day. did you in the west bank where we're running out of time, i've just got to ask you, you've long wanted the saudi arabia to join the abraham accords. it, why do you think uh, is there it has no chance whatsoever of that dream that you and then it and yahoo administration and it's people, one of saudi arabia joining if anything is there is more isolated than ever. you
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have an economy intact as jews a leaving whole mess and you're preparing for the onslaught. i think a lebanese resistance and the reigning government saying, oh the waiting game is positive it, those jews will never be going back to the north. will they anytime soon? i as well, i'm sorry to take an issue, but i think of what you've said. these are for the prison off the ryan and that is below just totally not true. they have their interest maybe to kind of bolster their. busy own the equal and maybe more out because they are in the. busy very low point and i would say one, but there was only one solution for peace and prosperity in the middle east is that it is from sony countries, israel, united states, and nato, heavy and alliance. as we are heading now against the forces of people which are
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the running, they have told us, piece by law a how boss and the high been forced is north korea and russia, some guys, china. so there are 2 camps here, and there is no doubt which camp is really in which camp will continue to read. and then one more thing, the gulf companies and so on. are you ready? yeah. they ready see knowledge because they have problems? no, just the security issues from may be wrong. that's right, something wrong, but also it's uh the future for um, uh for security and what are available is this is where is what is number one in the world. okay? but it's number one is feeling walter, according to the role and why they're going to choose a country. is it friends with anyone? but every one i, i should say, and certainly a, you know, they have good relations with china and russia and the russian china understand what to what nathan is doing. of course, in wisdom, you are a but i began this by talking about the 2nd world war you. what do you think of the line such figures? then this amman and british journal saying that
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a 186000 may have been slaughtered by u. k. u. s. a u weaponry in the hands of the israelis equivalent, as i said, proportionately to 5 and a half 1000000 people, men, women, and children, mostly women and children killed in britain or 27000000 in the usa. what do you think of that? british british medical journal, the lines that as well, again, i think you, there is, this is born always downright blind. you mentioned this is like is, was positioning in the world is not the best because of the labels. and with the lies it gets us which, you know, we are not very yeah, capable of dyslexia because they're busy going great. i would love that. all the study was peer review. why would they make what a blood label? you're not comparing the lunch to, to the nazis. i they are, i would say that the, i have told us of the wrong we, there proxies like this is blah and the, you know, one in there she, i, e, l, i swear there is a she, i conditions you,
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the rock or in syria or the image medical journal, they, well they, they, are they downright terrorist and you know, unfortunately, you know, well or the ever i say why you say, but we're out of time about them. thank you. thank you very much. that's it for the show. i'll continue condolences to those very by u. k. u. s. and you, i'm jealous, i will be back with the brand new website on south day until then keep in touch my role as social media. if it's not sensitive and you'll country and has one channel . so we can leave it on tv, on rumble, they'll come to watch new and old episodes of going undergrad, 2 sides of the the,
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the, the, the source of the 10 goals is as everybody's drawn in kind of reckoning pounds a box surprises. condolences over a project and the same price must go says the initial, incidentally, in russian ass based food by putting in at that time, ukrainian drones were launching terrorist attacks on civilian infrastructure. the aircraft commanded made 2 attempts to land the plane in the girl's name, which was unsuccessful. was it into just explosives and losses in island? those buyers are deployed. i says you have this for the tires, but the fact on a russian basis in syria. so lucky a sense of is the feud with you playing a raising.

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