i never really know what they're going to do because of this sense of entitlements that was given to them by the collective west, by the media and machinery, by everybody as, as one points in february, march 2022. so this sense of i will take forcing 5 women still lives there. and i believe that zillow is key and people ruling good key if you are actually surprised, they're actually soft. you hear a soft words from a quote unquote insignificant the country as insignificant leader in their eyes. you claim it. i've seen a real time scenes on the, on the ground up next. i will be back. i live out of the out the

i'm action or 10 seen welcome back to going underground, broadcasting all around the world from the u. a. 85 years since the 2nd world war interrupted with germany's invasion opponent the world that faces the threats of another catastrophic conflict. this time ignited by as well as relentless war and guns. the british alonza john less damaged, perhaps 186000 on nearly 10 percent may have been killed. dr. john list infants entire families wipe from existence well under the guise of self defense. back by the united states, which is funneled over 50000 tons of weapons and military hardware in j israel's hospital, but beneath his rails much folded and don't lie as a nation into him while fractured by the political divisions of military reportedly stretched been an international reputation that's plummeting. is israel up up to self destruction and how much longer can they come to in washington as more

americans question that governments backing other regime seen as a liability? joining me now from tel aviv is down the island, israel's home, a deputy foreign minister, next adviser of israel to the united states. a staff welcome back to the program has been for you as a given is rose actions have led to a run now almost daily, threatening your country as a former advisor to an admin. yahoo, a former investor to the usa. do you believe it? ron has nuclear weapons already front, it's the on the form of deputy boss of is really intelligent thing. israel would lose in any conflict against iran that well 1st of all, the options, but to be with you again a little while, took us a few years to reconnect. nevertheless, i enjoyed your show. so a body, ron, i will tell you, i don't think that they are quite capable of designating the device. uh, although they may be on the customer. they do have uh enrich uranium not uh

you know, what not we have a great but enough to try to use the web. and then it takes, it will take them um, 2 more months its not a year or so to recognize it. uh, so i don't think that they have it, but i think that is quite clear today with all, as you mentioned, catastrophic events uh, in the middle east and beyond that uh, the wrong use actually they, they had offer a uh, a terror. evarado. see, i got the run over a very radical machine, very uh, items a dangerous one. and they are actually using proxies around the lease that even gone back to. um, i guess bring about a new hedge of money where they would like to take over uh, the middle is the why they're using their love using us. it was obviously a run say that not proxies. these are just resistance groups that support iran. but having said what you just said,

do you think now that is really the most dangerous place in the world to be a jew? i think oh, actually i think it's the is still the safest way. ready to be a jo, unfortunately, as you mentioned, um really yeah. how you literally just told me that iran is on the verge may be of next year having nuclear weapons. we've seen all the resistance, was it, why is it safe to be jewish? because right. because because i've described the wrong and the danger from guy thought he's only have to picture the other half. of course these are besides capabilities, you know, on the 14th of april, a few months ago. ready they launched for the 1st time, and that also shows by the way, yeah, the deals are narrow. it's more than 300 different rockets and, and drones all over the bus one where the intercepted and investor, we know that the around says that those were deliberate decoys. to get intelligence,

but if i was going back to this point, you know, how many jewish people are immigrating from israel, your call is in titles and people are leaving a mess from israel to i don't think so. you know, i actually, i, i leave here and i talk to people, you know, these riley's jewels at large and what we, we like to complain to uh, discuss it to, uh, you know, look at that issue from every corner but. busy no rays are saying and actually we are more just coming from abroad, especially from the united states. and here again, you mentioned, you know, i also use was the standard today in the world for various reasons. but say some of them are downright and i submitted. and i'm very, somebody's also rise, and by the i just submitted, ah, you know, i'm actually moving ok, you know where you're only get onto that. i do want to get on to that. been you just said people are leaving 30000 official figures leaving up till much between

the november and much. so what are you talking about why these $30000.00 jews will leaving their leaving? because israel is not a safe place to be jewish any more? surely. no, i think i think the solutions are wrong and you look at uh, just make people wants to enbridge, you know, to lead. they keep their families here. so they are very, very much bye of and the, you know, when the war started, we were, you know, savage, the attack the message or the favorite service of october. we had thousands. if not more, of these riley's will lead abroad. were on the doors abroad. they were all gone, virginia and there were no places on the, on the coming slides. so this is not a problem whatsoever. is rarely, these readies are white and resilient. we live with you, you know,

why am i asking anyway, i'm asking, i'm asking because i or did you is the authorities, it is real, keep talking about how is rarely is a place that say for years when many jews, i would say in that the as per say that was and what the time to visit. why do you think israel media was banned from reporting on lebanese resistance strikes on? shouldn't batch most ad unit 8200 just in the past few days because that's it was a 5 am reporting restriction in israel, black out of all media. why was the media band from reporting on the successful resistance strikes on most ad unit, a transition bit less, a very good question. there was nothing to report about. and again i, i think that you want to pray into propaganda either from tara, she's below the one i mean was, i'm just sorry, i'm just asking about freedom of speech and freedom of the press. why there, there is nothing happened with the reporting restrictions institute,

did it 5 am on all of these really media? because all of them were interested to see you there is, there is one thing every bedroom currently does. well, you know, we are an open country press errands, we really very, very energetic press. you cannot hide anything here. and so you didn't see any boss following, going to have a or anywhere else is just because it didn't have because the failed. why would you need to put reporting restrictions? yeah, usually you should be crying about it and saying how successful is there was no binding. all of these really media from covering it unless you're trying to cover something up unless that unit, hey, do under the gym. bet were actually hit hard. no, no, no, no 3, actually i just drove by this morning. uh, everything is intact. uh, there was a 3, a restriction uh the restriction was only 4 days,

rarely preemptive with that. and this was because of their security uh, considerations and uh, and that was it. but if you look at uh at the results, yes, the b try to launch a why to if you uh, can't remember the number, but with it being given uh in the hundreds. but they were all taken before they even launched and we did it. oh these all right, sorry about that because reporting restrictions i'm a journalist reporting restrictions were imposed. anything you say? we cannot be corroborated because these are in the government as binding during that as i'm covering it. why does the israeli military headquarters? why is it 450 meters from a hospital entry level hospital on wiseman street and tel aviv? why do the israelis put the military structures near hospitals and schools in tel aviv labs in israel y? and i'm not sure that this is the case. you know, you for this stupid ass the say,

these why depends on, you know, a why the, in the ministry of defense of england, their own efforts would be located in the capital. and where the pentagon is all 450 meters from one of washington's biggest shopping malls. why did the israelis place the facilities near hospitals and schools? there is no and deliberate say no. ready was in the near schools or anything like that. and a, in any case the, the schools are say, is tell a beauty, say, because we have the best or miss old ballistic defense ever . and this is why you see how to run. and because by the same time and again, where does these by law a successful when they use our daily communities, when they do it, when they tired it civilian homes. and when they do that, say,

you know, when they do gates or burn a, uh, an open deals. uh, it is what you see. but they are not coming in knots and will be your back because they know it would be devastating. the, uh, the situation is that this is what it is now by d a modes i x runs war. but as far as our intelligence capabilities, as far as our operational and logical, less realty, we still quite save here. and the results are back on the one hand, you know, you guys, uh, we had some us which turn guys up to one major bumper. uh, 400 the meters a or one seats, x in the house and with multi layer and uh, i was a thousands of dollars. i was a very, a 100 of uh, i was just a loaner is

a photos and we're taking them out and then operate spending janice from being able to cover the operation by the israeli government. we don't ask successful. you being bid regarding why israel put their military facilities near jewish homes and jewish schools, you'd find it acceptable then for the resistance voices to as collateral. damage is rarely hospitals to be destroyed. say the, it's a, it's a little while it's middle. if that gets destroyed, it's right next to the military headquarters, so it's just an acceptable collateral damage. you know, i tell you what once you are referring to is just headquarters. reach our offices, you have their offices, you don't have the guns, we don't, they have the missiles or launchers. it's not at all, like she's by law. and, and some of us were picking their launches inside the homes where we live, elizabeth, the lebanese resistance offices in westbury route. utah is there were offices when

they just like the office retail of a as well. these are offices with their offices. unfortunately, you have done iris do not. and there are no guns at this is really military headquarters on 5 main street and tele, be you know, you'll have there, you have the people who go to work, you know, the offices and it's not in need 0 and it's a military headquarters dispatch. but not in new jerry installation. and by the way, again, you know, if you look at the results from us when they started their operation for their attack on the service of solar, ma'am they launched hundreds of uses. how many uses somebody's launching now? 0. why? because we systematically took them out because we know how to be better says the same thing may have been increased. but uh, if we decide these people that is not the, let's say why about this? but i will not suppose to united nation the security council resolution 71 by which

they have to pull out. they are illegal uh military units. you chose our goals, but to be, uh, it's a, it's an issue that has to be according to 17. 0 one a has to be december, they did not do that. we will have to take care of that, right. okay. and that's enough to see the blooms, the address investment, then the add on of stuff to you that more from the former is really deputy foreign minister. next, i'm pastor of israel to the united states after this break the, the, the,

the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the former is really deputy foreign minister, an excellent basket of israel to the united states. downey island and bass to thank you. so much as i said, for your explanations, in part one of how you say the operations in is really being very successful. as i said, journalists are not allowed to go in and verify the claims made by israeli authorities . and the ones you just made about one, but then what about these torture programs that are being covered in these riley media? what's the reason for as well as to what's your programs it's a day to you man in the negative prison the you in special rapids or alice deal edwards, itemizing jews sexually torturing arabs, prisoners as well. uh, actually do you remember the rate of the, the american installation uh,

were you talking about the united states when talk about is a fully democratic countries with the law? then the reason why would be many people would many people around the world don't think it'd be like the states or his trail of countries or by the rule of a rule. there presidential candidate donald trump doesn't believe that the united states is currently a country of little over that but, but still i see millions of people are trying to come to america. i don't see them are trying to be in china. ready easily ron or russian. so uh, i think uh we have to really understand re, i'm sorry, what was the torture and the negative prism got because because i wanted to say the, just like the united states is where there was a little small. and why still are you learns? there was no forward year is randy james and each song and let's say, well, the soldiers will jailers are doing anything, just legal,

not only they are taken out. they are charged and they're bugs. they're staying prison. i think you are referring to one case where we have, i mean, these really, oh, sorry, it's actually arrested 5 people, 5 jailers. and they are now undergoing investigation and, and trials. so this is barely exceptional. and, and, you know, to every rule of portions, originally, exception, but they smoked like to the wrong or, and the other kind of thing any was to hear the magic raping eco generation of prisoners in the run. i mean, the last i heard of the things like this was apple grab and it was the united states carrying out because polls in the united states, you're most americans in the united states favorite palestinian state. i mean, clear now that your uh full, my boss is only option is to draw the united states in to this conflict and iran and on the bicycle of not being binding since the is rarely assassination of as

well. any a and the what, what does this will going to do when the united states, the, whether it be this generation or the next says, good by israel. we have israel because of what israel does as regards human rights violations. we are quite capable of defending ourselves by ourselves. lay. ready sorry to jump so quickly, but you're not value because that's why the americans are giving you tens of billions or hundreds of millions of dollars weapons without the united states. you are, you don't have a country. i don't think so. if you look at the united states, the defense a, to nature, to south korea, to japan, it's 100 times what the are doing with is with this right? small rock security corporation, they enjoy our technology there. enjoy our strategic and tactical lead. um,

i didn't say he'd be innovations and also the us and it was our natural elyse because of assistance. you know, the democracy's support democracy is not only that is where they know that the united states is one is the most dependable l i of the united states in the region at all. and is they need and they, they are interest east to have stability in the region. their interest is that not to, to have um, oil prices a height. they go easily and take care of. why do i care of it by controlling arab neighbors? i don't, well it's how the you a, what do you mean controlling oil prices like sending in arms to israel? i mean, actually i was gonna ask about, i would say about that. um, that is your view that the gods opperation which as i said, may have killed 10 percent of the population, which is equivalent of killing, say,

5 and a half 1000000 people in britain, 27000000 people in the united states. that's the proportion of numbers killed in kaiser according to the estimates from the lancet british ship medical journal. is it your view that what needs to happen now is that every arab and guys and christian needs to go to the sign a does it know? so 1st of all, let's we just correct one thing when i was hoping by what prices, you know, be the reduce, the leading to the least low prices are being dated basically in the gulf countries united states, although it is now self sufficient on energy supply. they don't need an oil prices high because it's inflation and everything goes with it. so this is why they need to be. this is why they need a strong is where, where it is ready to origin was heard on the 7th of october. it was very important to re establish these, these parents. how do you re establish these parents? by me?

it gets old rare, and the subject of tauriel and the tyrants anymore. the level needed to be bombing his railing. the past few days, the ron bombed israel for the 1st time ever in the past few months. human is a booming israel. i didn't even remember when it lasted, that it doesn't have any deterrence, but i'm just asking why. on the hood, you, you think that the oil prices in any way a to, to do it this and whether the, the numbers killed actually, you know, the, israel's reputation right now is in tacit all around the world as well. yes, and this is very unfortunate. and again, dear, i think that the true story is not being driven. it was like you are telling me about millions of uh, guys as being killed, which is not big of uh, even near the st. millions the proportion its based on the british republish it. yeah. it's a quadratic proportionate these, these,

these not corrosive because i tell you what they had the mice stairs because they are mostly you. so at the bell, no official. now do we know you're not allowing john? listen, listen, we are in gaza. you know that you guys and others are not here. are you guys have? i'd like you to, to guys are in your deliberately not allowing john leslie, because you'll be very, you'll be very welcome. when he'd say right now, the sold will be trapped and sold terroristic batches. and we're taking care of decision di, because we want to spare. they've got some people who are not involved. but most of the people that were killed were, are because they were from us members and some boss is uh, what are you going sales and positioning themselves? there's nothing you're saying can be verified because you're not allowing janice and you're saying it's not safe. i was in damascus during the war, which israel supported against the side with the european union in the united

states. they didn't have a problem with journalist going in, well, uh, there was a, your old boss netanyahu treating isis dash on the golan heights. we saw pictures of the why is it you're not responding about the plan for guys? because you said it was the controller or a television station. you're on this guitar, a television station saying you want to, people have guys that to go to sign. that is, that still your view? no, no. what i meant was that they should clear the way you know, who's innocent civilians and gods that should be under way. these would have been the best. well that's the. ready way so the, some us, you know, i would face is really military face to face model uh model and not the. busy go behind them, you know, what's happened with this of us is that they like cowards. they are hiding behind the civil populations that they work saturday. they are single populations no more

because the to go all their uh, this is going to be reduced and now it's a mobile ration. but i can tell you that i'll give you some numbers and you're not totally verifiable because they come from from us. and they talk about 40000 that i can tell you out of these 40000 that more than 20000 are a terrorist armed terrorist. and the racial of $1.00 to $1.00 is the lowest in the allowing jonathan. so we kind of verified that it's in your interest to tell me that so 2000000 palestinian 2000000 or both indians have to leave guys and go into the desert to live in tents, which is what you've said on the board. and then what i'll and then you'll destroy garza even more kill everyone left. and then how many of that? so then the 2000000 can then come back to guys. is that your plan on the plan? i'm letting you know who yeah. what this well yeah. but obviously this plan in place and. ready this is wide, so unfortunately some casualties among the civilians but be planned for guys that

is very simple. each to view radicalized guys on the device, does it as it used to be. busy to dramatically agreements when this happens and of course we would very much like to see a prosperous guys up as we planned for you on a 2005 august 2005 is realistic guys altogether to the last page, given you to hopefully to a new era, but from us to over, they actually had to put it up against the 040. they were cheap housing authority officials. they took over as you all right. you know, you can't lie other day than you in the west bank where we're running out of time. i've just got to ask you, you loan wanted the saudi arabia to join the abraham accords at why do you think it is where it has no chance whatsoever of that dream that you and then it and

yahoo administration. and these people, one of saudi arabia joining if anything is there is more isolated than ever. you have an economy intact as jews, a leaving home mass. and you're preparing for the onslaught. i think a lebanese resistance and the mainland government saying, oh the waiting game is positive it, those jews will never be going back to the north. will they anytime soon? i or well, i'm sorry to take an issue, but i think of what you've said. these are for the prison off the ryan and it is below just totally not true. they have their interest maybe to kind of bolster their own the equal and maybe more out because they are in the. busy very low. busy and i would say one, but there was only one solution for beast and posterity in the middle east is that it is then sunni countries, israel, united states, and nasal,

heavy and alliance. as we are heading now against the forces of people which are the running, they have told us, piece by law a how boss and the high been forced is north korea and russia, some guys, china. so there are 2 camps here, and there is no doubt which camp is really in which camp will continue to read that one more thing, the gulf companies and so on. are you ready? yeah, they use ready see knowledge because they have problems? no, just the security issues from may you run this right some wrong, but also it's uh the future for um, uh for security and what are available is this is or is what is number one in the world. okay. but it's number one is feeling walter, according to the why the trees are friends with anyone. but every one i, i should say, and certainly a, you know, they have good relations with china and russia and the restaurant china. i understand what to what nathan is doing. of course, in west, in your a, but i began this by talking about the 2nd world war you. what do you think of the

line such figures? then this amman and british journal saying that a 186000 may have been slaughtered by u. k. u. s. a u weaponry in the hands of the israelis equivalent, as i said, proportionately to 5 and a half 1000000 people, men, women, and children, mostly women and children killed in britain or 27000000 in the usa. what do you think of that? british british medical journal, the lines that as well, again, i think you're is, this is born always downright blind. and you mentioned this is why this was positioning in the world is not the best because of the labels. and with the lies it gets us which, you know, we are not very capable of dyslexia because they're busy doing great. i would love that all the study was here with you. why would they make what a delightful, you're not comparing the nonsense to the nazi side. they are. i would say that the i have told us of the wrong we there proxies like this is blah. and so, you know,

in there she, i, e, l, i swear, there is a she, i emissions in the rock or in syria or the image medical journal. are they, well they, they, are they downright terrorist and you know, unfortunately, you know, well on the, ever i say why you say, but we're out of time about them. thank you. thank you very much. that's it for the show. i'll continue condolences to those very by u. k. u. s. and you, i'm jealous, i will be back with a brand new episode on saturday until then keep in touch my role as social media, if it's not sensitive in your country. and that's what channel going on the grantee on rumbled or come to engineering old episodes of going undergrad. she says the the

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