on the, the time action or attendance and welcome back to going underground, broadcasting all around the world from the u. a. 85 years since the 2nd world war interrupted with germany's invasion opponent the world that faces the threats of another catastrophic conflict. this time ignited by israel's relentless war and gauze. the british alonza general estimates perhaps 1860000, nearly 10 percent may have been killed. doctor john list infants entire families wipe from existence while under the guise of self defense back by the united states, which is funneled over 50000 tons of weapons and military hardware in j israel's hospital. but beneath israel is much wanted and don't lies, a nation in turmoil, fractured by the political divisions of military reportedly stretched been an

international reputation that is plummeting. is israel on a path to self destruction? and how much longer can they come to in washington? as more americans question that governments backing other regime seen as a liability, showing me not from tel aviv is down the island, israel's former deputy foreign minister, next and bassinger of israel to the united states and bass. jeff, welcome back to the program between for you as a given is rose actions of lead to a run now almost daily, threatening your country as a former advisor to that. and yahoo, a former investor to the usa. do you believe it? ron has nuclear weapons already front, it's the on the bottom and deputy boss of is really intelligent thing. israel would lose in any conflict against iran. a good, well 1st of all a actually it's good to be with you again a little uh, took us a few years to uh, reconnect nevertheless, i enjoyed your show. so a body, ron, and i will tell you, i don't think that they are quite capable of designating the device. uh,

although they may be on the customer. they do have uh, enrich uranium not uh you know, what? not great, but enough to turn it into the web and then it takes it will take them um 2 more months if not a year or so to recognize it. uh, so i don't think that they have it, but i think that is quite clear today with all, as you mentioned, catastrophic events uh, in the middle east and beyond that uh, the wrong use actually they, they had offer a uh, a terror. evarado, see, i thought i was run over a very radical machine, very uh items a dangerous one. and they are actually using proxies around the lease that even gone back to. um, i guess bring about a new hedge, a money where they would like to take over. uh, the middle is the why they're using their love using us. it was obviously iran say

they're not proxies. these are just resistance groups that support iran. but having said what you just said, do you think now that is really the most dangerous place in the world to be a jew? i think oh, actually i think it's the is still the safest way. ready to be a jewel unfortunately, as you mentioned, um really yeah. how you literally just told me that iran is on the verge may be of next year having nuclear weapons. we've seen all the resistance which is why is it safe to be jewish? because right. because because i've described the wrong and the danger from the diesel, you have the picture. the other half, of course these are the 1st get the benefits. ready on the 14th of uh, april or 2 months ago. ready they uh, launched for the 1st time. and that also shows by the way, yeah, the deals are narrow. it's uh, more than 300 and different rockets and,

and drones all over the bus one where the intercepted and impassive. we know that the around says that those were deliberate decoys to get intelligence. but if i was going back to this point, you know how many jewish people are immigrating from israel? your call is in titles and people are leaving a mess from israel to i don't think so. you know, uh, actually i, i live here and i talk to people. uh, you know, um these riley's jewels of the large movie. we like to complain to uh, discuss it to uh lieutenant issue from every corner about. busy know, is raise or saying, and actually we are more just coming from abroad, especially from the united states. and here again, you mentioned, you know, i also use was the standard thing to, for various reasons. but say some of them are downright and i submitted. and i'm very, somebody's also rice being the, by the i just submitted, ah, you know,

i'm actually moving up, you know, where you're only get onto that. i do want to get on to them and you just said people are leaving 30000 official figures leaving up till much between the november and much. so what are you talking about why these $30000.00 jews will leaving their leaving? because israel is not a safe place to be jewish any more? surely. no, i think i think the solutions are wrong. and if you look at just make people wants to emigrate, you know, to leave. they keep their families here. so they are very, very much bye of and the, you know, when the war started, we were, you know, savage dfacs the message or the family said as of october, we had thousands. if not more, of these riley's will lead abroad. were on the doors of road, they were all gone, virginia and there were no places on the, on the coming slides. so this is not

a problem whatsoever. is rarely these readies are white resilience. we live with you, you know, why am i asking anyway, i'm asking, i'm asking because i or did you, is your thoughts? are it easy? it is real, keep talking about how is rarely is a place that say for jews, when many jews i would say, and that the as per say, that was and what the time to visit. why do you think israel media was banned from reporting on lebanese resisting strikes on sion batch? most ad unit 8200 just in the past few days, because that's it was a 5 am reporting restriction in israel blackout of all media. why was the media band from reporting on the successful resistance strikes on most ad unit, a transition bit less, a very good question. there was nothing to report about. and again i, i think that you want to pray angel propaganda either from tara,

she's below the one. i don't know as i'm just sorry. i'm just asking you about freedom of speech and freedom of the press. why there's, there's nothing happened with the reporting restrictions institute. did it 5 am on all of these really media or because all of them were interested the c s. e. there is, there is one thing, every bank who currently does rent, you know, we are in the open country press errands. we'd really very, very energetic press. you cannot hide anything you're a so you didn't see any boss following. going to have a or anywhere else is just because it didn't have because this one i failed. why would you need to put reporting restrictions? yeah, usually you should be crying about it and saying how successful is there was no binding. all of these really media from covering it unless you're trying to cover something up unless that unit, hey, do under the gym. bet were actually hit hard. no, no, no,

no 3 actually i just drove by this morning. uh everything is in tax. um, there was a 3, a restriction uh the restriction was only 4 days, rarely preemptive attack. and this was because of the a 6 you would be uh, considerations and uh, and that was it. but if you look at uh the results. yes. the beep try to launch a wide uh, if you uh, can't remember the number, but with it being given uh in the hundreds. but they were all taken before they even launched and we did. oh these. all right, sorry about that because reporting restrictions, i'm a journalist reporting restrictions where you're both anything you say we cannot be corroborated because these are in the government as binding during the storm covering it. why does the israeli military headquarters? why is it 450 meters from a hospital entry level hospital on wise when street and tel aviv? why do the israelis put the military structures near hospitals and schools in tel

aviv labs in israel y? and i'm not sure that this is the case, you know, you for the stupid ass the same use by the time to go on, you know, a why the, in the industry or for the same. so people in their own efforts would be located in the capital and where the page is going to is the 450 meters from one of washington's biggest shopping malls. why did the israelis place the facilities near hospitals and schools? there is no a deliberate say no. ready was in the near schools or anything like that. and uh, in any case, the uh, the schools are say, is telling me the say because we have the best or miss old ballistic defense ever. and this is why you see how to run. and because by the same time and again, where does these by law

a successful when they use our daily communities, when they do it, when they target civilian homes. and when they do that, to say, you know, when they don't get or burn a, uh, an open field is what you see. but they are not coming in knots and will be drawn back because they know it can be devastating. the uh, the situation is that this is what it is now by d a modes i x runs war. but as far as our intelligence capabilities, as far as our operational is a logical less, rosie, we still quite save here and their results are back. on the one hand, you know, you guys, we had some us which turned guys up into a one major bumper. a 400 the meters, a or one seats,

action deep house. and we both a layer and i was of thousands of dollars. hundreds and hundreds of hundreds of dollars of photos. and we are taking them out and then operate spending. janet a swim being able to cover the operation by the israeli government. we don't ask successful you being bid regarding why israel put their military facilities near jewish homes and jury schools. you'd find it acceptable then for the resistance voices to as collateral. damage is rarely hospitals to be destroyed, say the, it's a, it's a little hospital. if that gets destroyed, it's right next to the military headquarters. so it's just an acceptable collateral damage. you know, i tell you what once you are referring to is just headquarters, which are offices. you have the offices, you don't have the guns done, they have their missiles or launchers and not at all, like she's by law. and some of us were picking their launches inside the homes

where we live, elizabeth, the lebanese resistance offices at west b route. utah is there are offices where they just like the office retail every as well. these are offices with their offices. unfortunately, you have done iris do not. and there are no guns at this is really military headquarters on fire has been street and tele be you know, you'll have there, you have the people who go to work, you know the officers, and it's not in need. there and it's a military headquarters dispatch but not in need. terry installation. and by the way, again, you know, if you look at the results from us when they started, they are operation for their attack on the 7th of october. and then they launched hundreds of pieces. how many users, somebody's watching now, 0. why? because we systematically took them out because we know how to do better, says the same thing may happen in which case. but if we decide these people that is

not the, let's say why it down is, but i will not will sue united nation, the security council resolution 71 by which they have to pull out. uh, they are illegal uh military units. you chose our goals, but to be uh, i'd say it's a simulation that has to be according to 17. 0 one a has to be december. they did not do that. we will have to take care of that, right. okay, and that's exactly the blooms the address and best of them. yeah, a lot of stuff to you that more from the former is really deputy foreign minister. next, i'm master of israel to the united states after this break the another of many places in the world where you can stay on the divide between the 2 oceans. and what do you might not think kids? what does this, hey, english is northern or phone goes to region. and the, you know, is that us national park. and today we know the stuff was from taking

a deep side into some beach because of the i welcome back to going on the right, and i'm still here with the former is rarely deputy foreign minister, next and basket of israel to the united states. danny island, i'm about to thank you so much as i said, for your explanations, in part one of how you say the operations and is really being very successful. as i said, journalists are not allowed to go in and verify the claims made by israeli authorities . and the ones you just made and bought one, but then what about these torture programs that are being covered in these riley media? what's the reason for as well as torture programs? it's a day to you man in the negative prison, the you in special rapids or alice deal edwards, itemizing jews sexually torturing arabs, prisoners as well. uh. do you remember upgrade

uh the, the american installation. uh when are you talking about the united states? what i'm talking about is a fully democratic countries. we develop law, then there is going to be many people with many people around the world. don't think it'd be united states or his trail of countries, or by the rule of a rule. there presidential candidate donald trump doesn't believe that the united states is currently a country of little over that but, but still i see millions of people are trying to come to america. i don't see them or trying to be in china or easily, ron or russian. so uh, i think uh we have to really understand re, i'm sorry, what was the torture and the negative prism got because because i wanted to say the, just like the united states is where there was a little a lot. and why still are you loud? and there was no forward year is randy james in each some. and that's a rogue. the soldiers jailers are doing anything. just legal,

not only they are taken out, they are charged and they're bugs. they're staying prison. i bet you are referring to one case where we have, i mean, these really, oh, sorry, is actually arrested 5 people, 5 jailers, and they are now under boise investigation and, and trials. so this is barely exceptional. and they're, you know, to every hula. fortunately, there was an exception, but they smoked like doing the wrong or the other kind of thing any was to him i was demanding raping explanation of prisoners in the run. i mean, the last i heard of the things like this is apple grave and it was the united states carrying out because polls in the united states, you know, most americans in the united states favour a palestinian state. i mean, clear now that your uh full, my boss is the only option is the drawer, the and i, it states m to this conflict and iran and bicycle have not been biding since the

israeli assassination of as well. any a and uh, what, what does this real going to do when the united states? uh, whether it be this generation or the next is good by israel. we have israel because of what israel does is regards human rights violations. we're applied, stay below for detailed in your sales by our sales weight limit. ready sorry to jump so quickly, but you're not value because that's why the americans are giving you tens of billions or hundreds of millions of dollars weapons without the united states. you are you, you don't have a country. i don't think so. if you look at the united states, the defense age, to nature, to south korea, to japan, it's 100 times where the are doing with is with this right? small rock security corporation, they enjoy our technology. they're enjoy our strategic and tactical lead. um,

i would say he'd be innovations and also the us and it was our natural elyse because of assistance. you know, the democracies support democracy is not only that is where they know that the united states is what is the most dependable l i of the united states in the region at all. and is they need and they, they are interest east to have stability in the region. their interest is a not to, to have um, oil prices a height. they know. usually they care which way i care of it by controlling arab neighbors. i don't know, it's how the you a, what do you mean controlling oil prices like sending in homes to israel? i mean, actually i was gonna ask about, it's a about that i that is your view that the guys opperation which as i

said, may have killed 10 percent of the population, which is equivalent of killing, say, 5 and a half 1000000 people in britain, 27000000 people in the united states. that's the proportionate numbers killed and guys are, according to the estimates from the lancet british ship medical journal. is it your view that what needs to happen now is that every arrow being guys and christian needs to go to the sinai? does it? nope. so 1st of all, let's we just correct one thing when i was hoping, but what prices, you know, reduce the meeting to the lease prices are being dated basically in the gulf countries united states, although it is now self sufficient on energy supply. they don't need an oil prices high because it's inflation and everything goes with it. so this is why they need to be. this is why they need a strong is work where it is ready to its origin. was heard on the 7th of october. it was very important to re establish these,

these areas. how do you re establish these bears by meaning? it gets old for the service of tauriel and the tyrants anymore. the lever needs to be bombing his rail. in the past few days a ron bombed israel for the 1st time ever in the past few months. human is a booming israel. i don't even remember when it lasted that it doesn't have any deterrence, but i'm just asking why. on the hood, you, you think that the oil prices in any way a to, to do it this and whether the, the numbers killed actually, you know, the, israel's reputation right now is in packets all around the world as well. yes, and this is very unfortunate. and again, dear, i think that the true story is not being revealed. like you are telling me about millions of uh, husbands being killed, which is not big off uh, even near the st. millions is proportionate based on the british or is it?

yeah, it's a good proportion. it is not gross, because i tell you what they had the boss stairs didn't because they are mostly you. so at the bell, no official. now do we know you're not allowing john? listen listen, we are in gaza. you know that you guys are in others are not here where you guys live. i'd like you to, to guys are in your deliberately not allowing john listening because you'll be very, you'll be very welcome. when it say right now, the sold will be drafted, sold terroristic batches, and you're taking care of it and stating die because we want to spare the guys of people who are not doing both. but most of the people that were killed were, are because they were from us members and some boss is really themselves and positioning themselves nothing. you're saying can be verified because you're not allowing jonas and you're saying it's not safe. i was in damascus during the war,

which is well supported against the side, with the european union in the united states. they didn't have a problem with journalists going in, well, uh, there was a, your old boss, nothing you know treating isis dash on the golan heights. we saw pictures of the. why is it you're not responding about the plan for guys? because you said it was the controller, a television station, you're on this guitar, a television station saying you want to people have guys have to go to sign i is that still you of you or no? no. what i meant was that they should clear the way, you know, it was even. ringback civilians and gods that should be under way. these would have been the best for the. ready way so the, some us, you know, would face is really military face to face model a model and not the go behind them. you know, what's happened with this of us is that they like cowards. they are hiding behind the civil populations and they were cowardly. they are assuming populations no more

because the to go old there. uh, this is going to do this and now it's a mobile ration. but i can tell you that i'll, i'll give you some numbers and you're not totally verifiable because they all come from from us. and they talk about 40000 that i can tell you out of these 40000 that more than 20000 are a terrorist armed terrorist. and the racial of $1.00 to $1.00 is the lowest in the allowing jonathan. so we kind of verified that it's in your interest to tell me that. so 2000000 palestinian to me, you know, those indians have to leave guys and go into the desert to live in tents, which is what you've said on the board. and then what i'll and then you'll destroy garza even more kill everyone left. and then how many of that? so then the 2000000 can then come back to guys is not your plan on the plan. i'm letting you know who yeah. what this well yeah. but obviously this land in the

lakes and. ready this is wide, so unfortunately some casualties among the civilians. but the, the plan for guys is very simple. each to view radicalized guys on the new device, does it as it used to be. busy to dramatically agreements when this happens and of course we would very much like to see a prosperous guys up as we planned for you on a 2005 august 2005 is realistic guys altogether to the last page, given us hopefully to a new era, but from us to over, they actually had to put it up against the 040. they were cheering possibility officials. they took over as you all righty now. you can't lie other day didn't you? in the west bank where we're running out of time. i've just got to ask you, you've long wanted the saudi arabia to join the abraham accords at why do you think

uh, is there it has no chance whatsoever of that dream that you and then it and yahoo administration and it's people, one of saudi arabia joining if anything is there is more isolated than ever you have an economy intact, as jews are leaving whole mass. and you're preparing for the onslaught. i think a lebanese resistance and the mainland government saying, oh the waiting game is positive it, those jews will never be going back to the north. will they anytime soon? i as well. i'm sorry to take an issue, but i think of what you've said. these are for the prison off the ryan, and that is belong to stock really not true. they have their interest maybe to kind of bolster their. busy own the equal and maybe more out because they are in the. busy very low point and i would say one, but there was only one solution for peace and prosperity in the middle east. is that it is from sony countries, israel, united states, and nato,

heavy and alliance. as we are having now against the forces of people which are the running, they have told us, piece by law, how boss and the high been forced use north korea and russia, some guys, china. so there are 2 camps here, and there is no doubt which camp is winning and which camp will continue to win. and then one more thing, the gulf countries and saudi arabia, they is ready see knowledge because they have problems. they'll just add the security issues from may, right? that's right. some wrong, but also it's uh the future for um, uh for security and what are available is this is where is what is number one in the world. okay? but it's number one is feeling walter, according to the why, the cartridge, the countries are friends with anyone. but every one i, i should say. and certainly, uh, you know, they have good relations with china and russia and the russian china understand what to what nathan is doing. of course, in west, in your

a. but i began this by talking about the 2nd world war you. what do you think of the line such figures? then this amman and british journal saying that a 186000 may have been slaughtered by u. k. u. s. u weaponry in the hands of the israelis equivalent, as i said, proportionately to 5 and a half 1000000 people, men, women, and children, mostly women and children killed in britain, though 27000000 in the usa. what do you think of that? british british medical journal, the lines that as well. again, i think you there is mrs. born, always downright blind. and you mentioned this is like this was positioning in the world is not the best because of the labels and with the lives they gave us, which, you know, we are not very yeah, capable of dyslexia because we're busy doing great. i would love that all the study was peer review. why would they make what a delightful, you're not comparing the lunch. so to the nazis i, they are, i would say that the i have told us of ron, we,

the proxies like this is blah and do you know in there she, i, e, l, i swear there is a she, i, the missions you, the rock or in syria or the image medical journal, are they well, they, they, are they downright terrorist and, you know, unfortunately, you know, well on the, ever i say why you say, but we're out of time about the danielle and thank you. thank you very much. that's it for the show. i'll continue condolences to those very by u. k. u s u, i'm genocide, will be back with a brand new episode on that day until then keep in touch my role as social media. if it's not sensitive and your country has one channel, so we have the grantee on rumble, they'll come to us new and old episodes of going undergrad, 2 sides of the the

israel. so will never been p. c. swale is s know supremacist all really joseph tempest states which has as many very respect due to me as a since appointed. i just find it all on the principle of the pot side and it only knows violence and the the, the money of looks. good evening mr. harvey. i welcome to our show that i was to say here was good evening. first off, congratulations and well wishes. and there are quite a few things to celebrate the season. i wish you a merry christmas and happy new year. of course, i think serbia being an orthodox christian country, mostly celebrates christmas after new years. but there must be bills, whole, ready,

celebrated on december 24th. i wish merry christmas to all, but the main reason for my congratulations is the long awaited launch of ortiz serbian broadcasting. it serves both serbia and serves because serves also living there for what the service got across the balcony and elsewhere. this is something we have all been waiting for and we have been working a lot to make it happen. the decision was made and now it's become a reality. i wish you success. i hope you will do many interesting projects and have sincere guess to interview good luck, me your journey. be fair, as we say in russia, especially the kid courtesy. thank you so much for these beautiful words in your law has been said about multiple letter to you over the past few years. so my question to you, is this, what are the criteria of a multiple world and are they present today the pilot? unless you're right multiple already has been talked about a lot. why? because it's becoming a real.