year 2 years later, you know what absolutely ended up being true. and you have people like elvis chan who are working to lobby the big tech companies to keep them from allowing people like me from having account so were, were canceled all the time as a result of that. but what's bigger and what's more, i think i agree just and this is it all the people inside the organization which basically represent organized criminals that got together and said they're just going to let this left, this audiology permeated through our system and they're getting reassigned. and they're getting reassigned with this kind of wink wink, will allow you to keep doing your job and lobbying these groups while just working in different departments and in, in, in different environments. so this is it most concerning part about is it hasn't really close, they've just, they've gone underground. former us president, i don't know, well, peace prize on a do me cause a has died of the age of a 100. that's according to his son who was a sizes by american media outlets. mr. cause i had

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the hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things are considered? i'm peter level. it was widely thought the year 2024 would be to multi to us and it was however, in ways few had predicted the world did change and this year though hardly for the better. what are the highlights and low lights? the cross fucking 20? $24.00. i'm joined by my guess, george samuel, we in budapest. he's a pod cast through the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow, across the marks level that he has international relations and security analysts, or a gentleman cross type roles. and in fact, that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciated. or when you go to you 1st here, i mean, as i said in my introduction, a lot of as a thought the in the, the year that's passing would be to multi as it was. the multi was a lot of things happen. you can't even chronicle it all in one program here,

but in your mind what stands out most, what, what we remember 2024 for. well, 1st of all, the continuation of the conflict in ukraine throughout the year. i know that there were people on both sides predicting that the conflict would have already ended would end sometime during the year. and frankly, i don't know if it will end any time next year. but i think the, the biggest surprise event during the year happened at the tail end of the year at the end of november and the beginning of december. and that is the soul of the syrian government. the syrian government was overthrown by outside of uh, uh, with the support of the, or the one regime in turkey. most likely, united states, u. k. france and israel having a hand in it as well. i don't know that anyone was predicting that would happen

then. the christians of syria are looking forward to a christmas this year, where just in the last 24 hours, we've seen that at least one christmas tree burned down by the fighters and pro christian protests beginning in syria, as, as i'll tell you to, uh, the, the woke out guide uh that the western main stream media is applauding demonstrates how it intends to treat siri as religious and ethnic minorities. the story will definitely be following into the new year. georgias. it's tough, come in and 2nd asked me, what were the big news of the parents in mart covered the 2 of the major ones? what are your thoughts here? i mean, one of the things that i found really depressing and troubling is the lack of any kind of diplomacy in the application of international law. now we have the i, c, c, we have the i, c,

j. the got into action though i've none of us are holding our breath for either institution. the rule of law be the rules based order. so hopefully that will be something that will be forgotten in the new year because the dominated this year. go ahead. george a. hi isaac, so it'd be the and what do you say about the rules base or the being so dalton this year, i think that's quite likely because to me, i think the uh, the most startling develop linda. but maybe it's not stopping. but i think the most notable developments of 2020 of what was the raton of donald trump, because when 20 to 24 started, he was by no means clear that he would succeed of the norm, as well as, as a rate against him. he was facing for a criminal cases. he was facing a civil case in the state of new york, which was targeted toward some bankrupting him. and it wasn't though a lot of negatives to him. so even if he could survive these,

all these hurdles that lovely, the democrats, the deep states, whatever, at least in his, in the as well. and remember also they will try to throw him off the ballot even then if it came to the general election, it was by no is obvious that given all the negatives that he would prevail and the but he did prevail, he won quite comfortably, which i gain games, i surprised all of us everyone that it would be such a decisive when now what that means of going forward. that's a so obviously we're going to get to that later. um, but i think going back to your question about the that i think will be paid at least for the next 4 years to talk about the rules based or the heat and whatever else i can say about that even he really doesn't look well on the walls as a matter of morality as a matter law, as a matter of good guys and bad guys,

i think he sees it very much about. it's a dog eat dog world out there. it's, you know, everyone's out for himself. and given that he represents the united states, he's going to get as big a slice of a pie as possible, or reflect upon that mark because you know, we are the know a lot about donald trump. he was president before. um, as we end the year looking towards, you know, he said he's good to solve ukraine. i don't see how that's going to be possible. considering these the people he has around him. i mean, it is a world historic event, but is it a good thing, mark? yeah, i, i'm not so sure that it is a good thing or a world historic event. i'm going to respectfully dissent from any idea that the rules based order is going to disappear, right? i would define the rules based order as the us per suit of us, lead western global hegemony at all costs in continued during the 1st trump administration. and i see absolutely no reason why uh,

anything would be different during the 2nd administration, especially considering the guy goal of neo cons and warmongers that he has gathered around him. um maybe have a different flavor, you know, different yeah. and a right different atmosphere, but it doesn't change that the u. s. is the global head german and will pursue, you know, all the interests of the united states as, as that is defined at all costs. so i, i don't think that that changes at all. it was the same before drunk it was this a very control. it was the same after trump, and it will be the same during trump though, the, the, the best that we can hope for is that those, some of those interests will be slightly redefined or, or at least to reprioritize, which isn't necessarily a good thing either. i mean it, trump isn't an even office yet and we've heard

a trump demands that the panama can be returned to the united states that the u. s . should by of greenland the canada should become the 1st, the 1st state. oh. and he has also promised that he will not abandon you great and will continue funding for it. so i, i don't, i don't really see what all. yeah, i mean i, george, i even think you can use the word mix bag because i largely agree with the sentiment of margaret. we'll have a different marketing strategy here. i mean for the, for those that have criticize the bite and ministration, which is a lot of it is warranted here and you have the juxtaposition but a real as class. well donald trump is sounding very real, is to me, i mean, greenland, how much the cost. i mean, that is realism. it doesn't sound nice. it's not pleasant, but that here's realism, george. no, absolutely. and i don't disagree with the marketing. what i said about the rules based folder that i am and that that's the tool, chrome, the word goal,

the liberal wing of the american political and military establishment. that's how they justify um, american foreign policy of america advancing its interest, america, bullying, sanctioning bombing of the country that. oh, well, it's all in the name of democracy is all in the name of human rights. and as you know, that's, that's why they do a trump doesn't talk like that. trump for him. he's. he has low interest in morales the a lot. he's absolutely determined to get as much for the united states as possible . so it's not like he's a peacenik or is he's got this, i'm open to a, another intervention is policy. i mean he to any is going to do that. but what i think is interesting when he talks about panama and greenland. um, usually it's just a naked self interest, and that i think is what's in the little different from chrome. and then when it comes to trump and then bite and then clinton and obama and all the democrats. so

it preceded him is that he is just shamelessly advocating on behalf of the united states. i remember when he talked to a yard or he said, well, i was against the arrival. and once we were there, we should've just taken the oil. and it was a little puzzling what have you just take somebody else's oil? is it well? and that's it. we just, we just eggs on the so, you know, i think the, when he talks like this about panama, he says i, we're getting a ripped off by panama. we went back canal back and you know, it's, it's, it's of, so make it the some praise and that it's kind of surprising and yet it's at the same time. it's also quite refreshing. well, that's right. likely that he actually is going to get this. i mean that's why it was so yeah, like 3 different kind of out back is the naked bars. it is different. i mean, the other thing, so an a well, i think look, if you, if you, if you minimize the democracy in the human rights on the go over the, the rules based old a tool i, i think that's a very help which tells you the political environment because then essentially everyone is,

makes clear what it is that the off the rather than wrapping yourself up in somehow that your, your, in the business of writing the world drones and it's about, you know, getting, getting the democracies together. i gave seal storage area and go ahead mark. well i and i want to point out that during the 1st trump administration for all of his many faults trumps 1st secretary of state rex pillars. and refuse to use the bludgeon of human rights as a rhetorical and political weapon against us adversaries. and we know from a memo that was linked to the press. it was written about, i believe in foreign policy at the time that there was an attempt to, to explain to the former oil men, rex told her, said that you don't understand or, you know, with human rights. so, you know, we, we, we give our allies

a pass and we use it as a club against our, our address. and they said it right out like that. and that was an attempt to explain it. but you, we also see that rex told her since term as the secretary of state didn't last that long. and mike pub, pale was bright, brought in to set things to a right. so i have doubts of the 1st of all, what trumps real intentions are in these regards. you know, whether, you know, he has any long held foreign policy. police built beyond who talked to him in the last 15 minutes. and i also questioned whether the us president actually has any power over for and military policy. and that if that's not the real per view of the blob. uh, you know, you want to call the deal. well, margaret, remember that bureaucracy mark before we go to the break. i think that there is really one foreign policy that donald trump is a been interested in,

even when he was a new in new york. real estate is china, china, china, china. that's what interesting. well, richard, we'll revisit it after the break. gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on 2024. stay with arch,

it's the the welcome that's across software. all things are considered i'm peter, is about to remind you. we're discussing the year 2020 for the . okay. it's got to george strikes in budapest, you know, george, one of the things that, um trump i think is very proud of. again, critically and when it comes to his 1st german office. he didn't start any wars and you know that there's something to that. okay. he didn't want to start morris, and there was an opportunity when he had bolt in by his side to go to war with around potentially. but now he's coming back in the office, you know, and we think of this year where he's making as the year and he's making all these

claims that he's going to n moore's well starting wars is one thing ending or is, is another thing and one is harder than the other, george. very much so and was drunk. that did indeed a has indeed posted put, that's a oh i didn't solved and he was and trumps champions. was that the you didn't start? and he was, he also facilitate to the starting of the subsequent was so for his, as he did um, in the liberally, the type who all the obama administration about not sending legal weapons to ukraine. in fact, um the, he's the one and just the boast about a day, you know, i, you know, obama was always sending pillows in the nightcap. so, you know, i sent them the, the javelin missiles. so the both of us and it also he, you visit, he essentially did the, i'm a general saw the money of the around then you can say of a batch was a preparation for the coming. i'll slow down the around. i mean, it's

a way of eliminating those forces in iran who would with withstand a west and pressure, you know, for me, particularly from the, those, the god of the western eyes is among the around the lead. those who would actually probably try to push for iran, acquiring nuclear weapons. so you can see the elimination of somebody like general saw the money could well be the preparation for what trump intends to do. and in his 2nd term, which is where you renew the maximum pressure campaign. so i think that the exact best little question about that with a trump. but there are differences in emphasis when it comes to trump and um, and by and obama and, and the democrats on the thing. you mentioned china. i mean, that's a long standing issue with him. i mean, he clearly sees china as america's primary adversary. he doesn't have

a great deal of interest when it comes to russia. he doesn't see any real need for a particularly adversarial relationship with russia. that doesn't mean that he's gonna end the war in ukraine. absolutely doesn't mean that. but i think he is in principle, he doesn't hold the gun of the most. do was russia that the, the democrats hold that that's a long standing segments. goes, it goes back up and, you know, several decades. he really does a, you know, when he, when he says, oh, why can't we get along with russia or what he says that, you know, i had good relations were put in. i think you really feel, i mean there's no question. it's a very different emphasis. he doesn't condemn russia in the way that is the rigor among america's foreign policy. lead 12, martha one issue that term seems very attached to other as i mentioned, china as a, as a candidate on the stone. he was remarkably extremely pro is real and that

we saw on leave and we saw the same from the bite and administration. you could, you could argue about rhetoric and emphasis here. but i mean, candidate from now present electronic is very depth of very little, very little difference with the sitting president that is going out. and in, by the way, everyone, the, you know, at the end of the year is mark pointed out some to moultrie has things happen. meanwhile, the genocide in palestine in gaza continues. it's not on the front page, but it is, i odd it's, it's accelerating. if anything, and that's something that is a legacy of this year, and it's going to go definitely into the next year. go ahead mark. okay, so i, i would beg to differ with the characterization of the assassination of the radi and general cost them sol omani and a top iraqi general, which is uh, quite uh, often left out of uh, the reporting on that um the head of the popular mobilization units which had

already been brought in to the iraqi military officially. that was an act of war. let let, let's be perfectly clear about that. if a war did not start at that moment, that was because of the restoration of trumps the opponent. in this case, the rod, right, that was an act of war against both the rod, any rock right. um. we also shooting for get the bumbling regime change attempt by drums cronies a against the venezuela here during his term of office, which was one of the most slapstick of times that regime change. i think that we've experienced the over recent years, but i mean to say that trump didn't start any new wars, i mean, technically kept by didn't make the same claim. i mean, it wouldn't be a completely disingenuous to say that, but i think it's all this and also this ingenuous for uh trump fan boys through um,

a claim that uh trump didn't start a new wars during years. well, well, most market could go back to your thesis, which again, is hard to disagree with. is that just how much power does the president of the united states have? and 1st would buying was a we're not really sure if he was the president that was in there. history well for the wall street journal is telling us that he was largely absent during his entire administration, which all of us in our audience already knew george and another big thing that happened in 2024. and you, and i've talked a great deal about it, is the unraveling of this century as liberal parties in europe, a election after election after election, and cold. and there is an election remaining. and they just know that because they didn't like the result is b, e o in democracy on speaking terms. right now i can't tell george. well it e, you talks a lot about democracy, but there's an inverse correlation between the more you talk about it and the less

you actually do anything to promote it. no, i think there's a real problem in europe, which is that the, the kind of a nationalist, the populace forces of they are basically, you know, the ones are saying we should be primarily sound about our own countries rather than, you know, all these geo political issues but they've been gaining uh ground. we've seen that in the, in eastern europe. we saw that in the, in germany. we've seen that in front. and we will, when you, as the response of the establishment in europe, has been either to steal the election outright as they did in molto as they have attempted to do in georgia. all they read basically cancel the election outright in romania. now look into what was elections in germany in, in february it's quite likely the,

the alternative for deutschland biology will do rather well. but the game is in or the that sort of a little that the liberal political establishment the you are. if they don't steal a or a knowledge elections, the very good just simply ignoring election outcomes so. so we're, you know, we can predicts mike much as happened in from the web marine lip ends national front of that national riley about they came inside. they were just eliminated altogether from any government talks about joining the colors. they were even eliminated from the championships of any committees within the national assembly. so if the alternative directional body gets 2020 to 23 percent though, they'll just simply be you know, they will, they will take no follow up in any of the coalition talks, levels come off to the election. it's kind of interested in coming in 1st place. doesn't really mean much any more when he comes to european politics. i mean, to come in 1st that sorry, you know, a color i have that mark is um,

i suppose not so much with brands, but almost every other election in, in, in europe is russia, russia, russia. i mean that's something that lived on we who would have thought that this uh, it's almost like a virus. you just cant stamp it out. okay. it goes along a common cold and cove. it okay. and this'll stay with us forever. mark. yeah. um i, i think that, you know, since 2022 definitely, but really for, for decades beforehand we've, or, you know, heard from the western media, how there's going to be political turmoil in russia. and that, that vladimir putin will be politically over drawer. and you will be unpopular, blah, blah, particularly that accelerated in the context of, you know, the conflict in ukraine and the, the west, existential economic war of sanctions and ad. and the weapon is ation of the financial architecture that they control the global financial architecture against

russia. but what we saw instead, as a consequence of the conflict in ukraine and the blow back from the sanctions, is political turmoil across the west. right? uh, both, both the united states to a certain degree. although i think domestic factors definitely weighed out, you know, more in that case but, but certainly in europe which had a more direct blow back effect from the sanctions. and we saw, you know, the, the rise of low pens, national rally party, but also of melon, johns far left alliance in france. both of which you could consider, i shall, we shall, we generously call them ukraine. skeptic parties, we saw, you know, the attempted assassination of robert fitz, so the prime minister of, so we'll walk you over the ukraine issue of the year. we saw the uh, these uh,

traffic light coalition of, uh oh, off schultz and the green party collapse. uh, at least on the face, over the issue of a to ukraine. we're still trying to negotiate and negotiate out, you know, the results of elections and another when we had this a noble action in romania which was obviously also a protest vote over the economic consequences of the sanctions on russia. the blow back from that. so the only one that really escape that fate, that this political turmoil, at least is the united kingdom. and that's simply because they have a much more structured and managed democracy where the center, right center, left, shuffle still rules, you know, they have been mars, but that we use it that way. so the election in which the of the opposition party won an astounding victory with the lowest vote a at the same time, i mean,

talk about structure, george, finish it out the 20 seconds. go ahead. no, i mean, and i think if i did the example of the u. k, i think, does tend to confirm what the mark was saying because of course, the big story that was the rise of uh, nigel for raj is uh, you know, popular spa digging, a british version of populace bought it. and clearly he is becoming man in the united kingdom and there was a lot of talk about that. he will be the next prime minister. i mean, probably off to the next lecture, maybe the election off of that. but clearly he's now expected to be eventually prime minister. yeah, i go all, you all gets down to who counts the vote. i guessed upright gentlemen, that's all the time we have. oh, and it's like my guess in budapest and here in moscow. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in our to see you next time and remember process rules and happy new year.

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