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a temporary arise at our destination. this is one of the schools here in gore. lift . uh uh the kids will be arriving very soon. right now. it's time to load everything that we brush or 1st of all the for the full suit. it's all here and a lot of presence, of course, which will take to the school, and apparently the kids have prepared a concert for me and we'll take a look at how that goes. the sofa and hers is 1st of course fall last year's changed at least 2 or 3 differences because of the places we usually visit are right on the front line. so obviously centered so far the process gets dirty and
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sometimes impossible to fix the new ones. so right now the kids are waiting for us outside and they sit questions on and congratulate them on christmas and new year of course time to get dressed look away the
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the. 2 the for the last 10 years, human presence, 2 children off, and that's people's lives. on the front line. it's every time it's emotional. when he see these kids who still believe in magic, they believe in font are false or sound of cost effective for him a year from and he wants to receive the presence they've asked for in a letter. their face changes drastically and of the happenings is on their face and the faces of the parents that were here. and it gives me particular
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a charge for the rest of the year because of all the kindness notice come around and remind people that live under constant shifting my brain in military. it's certainly a very valuable to seamless camaraderie right here in bor lift in case we will continue doing this for as long as needed because this year i hope it's the last time we're doing this and the conflict vote and and the school will be able to organize these forties by, by themselves without the need or loss called santa claus or moscow funded for us. but of course, my team and i will be doing this for as long as he is and will be bringing the happiness and the magic for the kids of this year on the front right now are the dot com is where you can get for the details of all the story as well following these. our thanks for watching and i'll see you again
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the the hello and welcome to cross software. all things are considered and peter level. it would be nice to see in the new year with some optimism. unfortunately, this is not the case. the accumulation and deepening of many problems from last year are still very much with us. so fucking love brace for impact, the
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cross fucking 2025. i'm joined by my guess. jordan sent me while we in budapest, he's a pod counselor at the gaggle which be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow, we crossed to mark's level that he's an international relations and security analyst, red building cross lock roles. and in fact, that means you can jump any time you want, and i always appreciate it, mark, i'm going to go to you 1st and i'm going to kind of give to vent a little bit here. during 2024. a lot of people we know in the pod cast world in the alternative media world in the world. we're really kind of obsessed with predictions. and well, there's a lot of a gotten a lot of faces the go around here. and so i would really like to avoid in this program to work on predictions because i think it's a useless endeavor. okay? because most people end up being wrong and they don't always admit to it unfortunately. so having said that,
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i would like to look at developing trends. ok, now we've just talked about what happened in 2024. given that conversation. what happened in 2024? what kind of developing trends from the last year do we feel of? do we see going into this new year mark as well? i, i think that you know, the 1st the elephant row in the room is the conflict in, in ukraine. i, i do not believe that the conflict and ukraine will, will end in the next year. i think the trend of the acceleration and the escalation of the conflict will continue despite you know, uh, you know, but the new us administration of donald trump coming into office in the united states simply because i do not believe that there is. any beal that the u. s. president, whoever that us present it is going to offer russia that russian will accept and,
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and russia's terms are unacceptable to any us presidents, an attempt by the donald trump administration to, uh, you know, play a role that, oh, he's going to cut a deal between russia and ukraine as if he some kind of neutral outside arbiter is just patently false. this is ultimately a conflict between russia and the united states and the united states. it is a proxy war, but it is a conflict to the us is losing, and trump owns that conflict. as soon as he comes into office and whatever, he may think of the average him and zalinski and in person and whatever, you know, political domestic gripes he has against them justified. he does not want to be known as the president to hand the ukraine over to vladimir pro. no us president wants that on that record. so i predict the. busy we'll continue, it will excel accelerate. it will escalate. and when clinton talks to donald
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trump, or he is uh, you know, envoys or whatever and says yes, you know, oh thank you very much, but yet, yeah, it means net and then everyone will whisper in trump's years. you need to show strengths to have peace. you, you need to escalate in order to de escalate and trump himself has already promised to flood ukraine with weapons. and what weapons i have no idea because even he's admitted to the us military, industrial complex doesn't have them. but if we refuse, is his grand deal. so i think that the war will get nasty or will getting more desperate will continue to see more of bombings of civilian buildings, assassinations, the space of um, a cambridge him. intelligence are sent attacks that are occurring throughout russia at the moment. we'll see more and more of these, you know,
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dirty tricks. i like to call them, you know, u. s. military might call them unconventional warfare because out of desperation and panic, they can't win on the battlefield. that's what they will turn to increasingly. it charge you and i've talked about this a great deal and it's not between i like marks approach to all of us. i think he's largely right. it's, it's, it's not a conflict between ukraine and russia. it's a proxy war. it's a nato proxy war against russia using ukraine here. and if there's got it going to be any kind of coming to terms, it's ne, tow bid is gonna be coming to to or not, you, ukraine, ukraine is a footnote, it's a, it's a side bar to all of this here. and that's why i've been very frustrated with the commentary. well, the guy i've cut, i've called last leg is um i think mark is right. i don't know about the timeframe . nobody really does. but them, it is as long as the united states is not losing troops and they can keep printing
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money. well, you know, the ukrainians are going to suffer russians will suffer, the europeans will suffer. well, what's that to an american administration, george? you know, i think i agree with the visa, i think that's um, so the united states, but late so this has been kind of a good war then on losing any lives. it's that ukrainians on the russians been slobs losing lives by the tens and hundreds of thousands. so why not to keep it doing? the one kelly at that i would introduce is that trump has clearly stated that he's going to end this war. that means he is going to launch a major diplomatic offensive to try to bring this to an end. um, initially at least i think rough, it kind of say no, i think russia would have to play long. take this seriously. and then it
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really will, the question is if there is some guide or the on off, i would just say look, all right, we freeze the line of calls the line of conflicts here at this point um with the whole issue of uh, your brain and nato on the back burner um would be would that be acceptable now? i think, you know, obviously it's a very bad deal for a terrible deal because russel then gets nothing out of it. however, um they have been times in the past in the quite recent buzz reaction and seemed willing to accept bad deals. and, and that's, i think is something that a clinic is matter of concern. i mean, we saw at the min minutes was a while, and 2 very bad ideas were roger the rush or not, i need to sign those deals, but went on for 8 years. you're continually complaining, why don't you adhering to men's? when it was obvious to anyone that because the west wasn't goods,
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which he hasn't been skilled coastal, which was just using minutes in order to strengthen your brain for and eventually offensive. that was clearly on the cards. and i think that's why a so largely this that was special as the s m o in uh, uh, february 2022. and then of course, again, richard was ready to sign in december. oh, which again was a bad deal for russian, but russian was, was ready to sign it and put it has repeatedly proclaimed blue. yeah, we were ready to sign. we get our signatures are on the paper. so i don't think that's going to be in the like the in the and then i think when, once that the trump initiative kind of comes to a dead end, then i think who a trump administration will escalate and i think escalate. okay, is russell i'm i am, i am concerned i can't rule out fully. the restroom will sign up with something like okay, mark synthesized everything we've already heard here because we have a 3 different kind of approaches to a go ahead. yeah. don't forget the austin,
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not a framework for syria, which was another bad deal for russia. yeah, that's said lou, back on them. catastrophic. we are with our to, well, i'm sorry to interrupt mark because it's we, you and i had a different conversation, a different venue about this. how is the failure of us in a going to influence the russian thinking in 2025. go ahead. um. well, 1st of all, i think that um, of russia is certainly has reduced influence and power projection capability in the middle east. i do not believe that russia will maintain military bases in the syria, even if or no one wants them there. ah, that's not, that's not going to happen. russia doesn't want to be under the leverage of, of our to one and i'll call you to, to maintain their bases there. apparently they're already trying to shift resources from those bases to libya. however, that's another risky situation. i,
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i think if they do that, roscoe will almost certainly get burned again. and ultimately they will decide that the africa and the middle east are outside of rushes, geo political horizons, and they will do what many russian critics of of who have said over the last decade is that russia should focus on ukraine. they should double down on ukraine and they should accept no compromises, no bad minsk again, that is a refrain that you hear in russian politics. right? no, no more. is them bulls? no more austin frameworks. everything has to be settled from a position of strands on the battlefield that there is no wiggle room. there is no coming back from them. and if it does agree to another bad deal, that will be the end of putting politically and russia, i, that is something that almost seems on the general right after the last 2 decades.
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but i assure you, it is imaginable, especially among the military generals, the political elite in the country. right. and an ordinary russians, right. the russians that have sacrificed so much of the opprobrium. uh and uh, you know, russia patriot, the collective punishment of the west. the effects on the economy, the death, some tens of thousands of russian soldiers in ukraine. i don't think that the russian people will accept anything less than victory that has been defined by the russian president and the kremlin again and again unwaveringly. since the beginning of the conflict and has not wavered, has only strengthened since george before we go to the break here. get my mark is that a lot there? is the american the incoming administration?
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did they realize would, would something like wouldn't mark had to say to um, yeah, i think so. i mean, i, and then i think that if they get something like that, if they can get russia to agree to some view, but they've been hinting at any lead, still the down boot. and i agree with marketing that the, the fresh of science onto that it will eat on the maps not immediately, but it will lead to the end of uh who to the americans who think, hey, this is a good deal for us. we have done rather well out of it, which is why again, the rush breakfast would stay very, very far from any kind of a deal. sure. so, you know, achieving the goals and i think ultimately the goal has to be regime change in to you. because any do, well i, you know, you will, we will freeze the line about the way and what have you still got a problem? this one's good. me throw on your voters. this is a conversation i had with mark many, many moons ago. and he said that they should have been redeemed change of the res,
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seem change back in 2014 gentlemen. i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go into a go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on the new year 2025. stay with our team. welcome back. across software, all things are considered on peter lavelle to mind you were discussing the new year 2025. the okay, let's go back to mark market the end of november, beginning of december of last year, we saw a, an event that no one in that i know of predicted. it was the complete collapse of the state and sovereignty of syria. is this the or d'oeuvre on the menu for the middle east for 20? 25. is this the some the beginning of something
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a developing trend because there is so many moving pieces we have um has the law that is still vulnerable? the i can't remember the last time 11 on had a real government a if the is re lease with american backing and its the west bank. um, we're gonna have a huge refugee problem going into jordan jordan, who is already packed full of people that are refugees. we have no idea what the series would be. what used to be called syria is going to look like. and then we have a rack is it implies applies even around. so i've kind of said a lot of pieces on the board move whichever one you want. go ahead mark. yeah. so in the middle east was in flame. uh, already uh, you know, before this, the events and syria and the year, you know, what came to a close and, and the uh, conflagration of the middle east will only continue into the next year. i think
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that syria is most likely to become both a failed and properly a fractured state. um i, i, uh, syria will now be the humpty dumpty who fell. busy off the wall and all the king's horses are all the hedge funds, horses and all the hedge minds man will not be able to put syria back together again. i think it is very likely that the dis, stabilisation from syria will extend at least into lab and on and a rack potentially further abroad. i think we will see increased direct, an open conflict between israel and the us on one side and iran on the other. you know, look for air strikes on, on a uh, e, ron's nuclear facilities which iraq is real, is now salivating about now that they're so happy that all of syria's air defense has disappeared overnight and then yahoo has been openly talking about it. i think
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we will also see the palestinian problem come to an end with the complete ethnic cleansing over the next 4 years of the palestinian people from the territory of, of greater israel. that way. i mean, we, we, we just saw headlines in the western media over the last week talking about, well, you know, uh, israel is taking part of syria out, but, you know, it's roles, borders of fluctuated throughout history. right. i mean the way they're there that have moved to have have moved so israel's borders are on the move and the palestinians will become what the jewish people once we're a no matic people, without a whole them, it will not just be gods. i think it will be brought into the west bank as well. and, and for finale, we're going to see economic turmoil throughout the world as trump begins is much uh, talked about terra for a renewal of the tariff war,
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not only on american adversaries, but on american outlines as well. so, so buckle off everywhere for economics term on george. i mean a market is set up a lot there. i mean it's really interesting when we look at what's going on in what's called the greater middle east west asia. again to hear moniker um, but i mean there's, there's some very interesting conflicts being played out. no, not looking at states. okay. states in this region are very, very weak for the most part. um, you can even make that case about israel and its internal politics. but nonetheless, here you have a new ottoman ism, you have american head gemini, and is really design is i'm, i mean, that's a very interesting parlay in a small geographical space. go ahead, george. a good it is indeed, but what has turned out in 20232024. and what israel has demonstrated,
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hey, we can do all of this and we can get away with it. and basically just israel's, as us or is that has taken the hit and the concrete, all of the predictions are somehow israel's in terrible trouble. and that the, the axis of resistance is going to crush israel. now it's going to the other way. so what does that mean with the, with the incoming very zion is the administration of the trunk. is that the, this is the ball, but unity and they've been looking for. um, this is the american uh, design is lovely. and because israel to reorganize the middle lees, whereby is ro once and for all, this is the 1st time and it says you once and broke and dispense with both of its enemies and clearly serious sir. it was a very big deal. uh for israel. now that it was it, you know, the long standing ally, so simply the soviet union was always the one on the questions, the ally of
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a so read unit. and then, oh, russia, that's gone. and, and so now, you know, the, the, it's in the around that's in the cross hairs. and what are they going to do, really without any question, little drunk is going to launch. this is a maximum pressure campaign. 2 point oh. and you will find all kinds of separate this move and so the emerging any around, you know, blue gaze, those areas um, arabs taps uh codes. and one of which will, of course be sponsored by the united states. and then in to around the world will find most of the, some liberal movements emerging. you know, women will be demonstrating, taking off that he jobs. and the michael, the guy that says democracy is thriving. and then of course, or given this of the chaos that's, let's go to emerge and syria, isis, isis is everywhere. you know, somehow, you know, that we, you know,
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we have to deal with isis. and the americans are going to say it as a realized as sudden like suddenly, suddenly they came back suddenly and he came back. we have to deal with it. and that's with the moment when they're gonna stop bombing iran directly as a, just as a bonus, syria directly saying we're going to deal with isis or salt region change. have also been removing regime change, which is bombing isis. so why don't you allow that? you know, you've just got to stop bombing iraq. then of course you just continue escal. yeah, i, i'm trying to get, i'm really confused. the difference between isis and l. chi though. okay, maybe maybe a topic for another program mark, go ahead and jump in. yeah, the current de facto ruler of syria in damascus. i'll gilani. he was the leader of isis in syria. right. the deputy advice is the leader in syria. and he then became the leader of joe bought all moves throughout, re branded as i you to hear all from. so what is the distinction?
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i, i, you know, i don't think there is one as well. so isis is most definitely back because they just over through, you know, whether you want to call it ices are all kind of, but the south is the, you know, they just over through the, the government in, in, in syria. so that is, you know, not something that is, it will have rubber cushions it will have uh, blow back. and i think that if the us in israel go about another 2 point, oh george w bush attempts to re make the middle east that inevitably it will fail, they will topple some enemies in evident and eminently. they will create new enemies, a new g o political problems that they will saddled themselves, like just as they did with the explosive influence of the rod in the region after the overthrow of saddam hussein,
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unintended consequences. yeah. this time it will be different. they always tell us that, okay, this time it will be different. george were rapidly running out of time. but you know, china is always on the menu here. how is that going to play out in 2025. we've already heard about the tariffs that the trump administration is going to pursue. um, what is it the uh, a navy general said 20272028. the conflict with china? well, it's 2025. go ahead. i think that's a, again, china will be definitely a preoccupation of the trumpet ministration. that would be the kind of an interesting because it's obviously going to be in economic conflict. i mean, i don't think it's going to be about taiwan. trooper showed no particular interest in the whole taiwan issue and in fact, unlike by them, he refused to make any commitment to coming to tie one's assistance in the event of an invasion of so i think it's going to be and he's going to wage a serious a economic world against china, and particularly he's going to wage
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a war against china throughout the world. you know, he's going to crack down the countries that are doing deals with china. you know, some of this is going to stop black mainland extorting countries that are assigned onto china, including, including friends and allies. exactly. you know, just you sign on through this with, with china. you know, you're going to have, you know, the china is going to build a portfolio or a railway for you. you've got a field across the united states. i think that's always good to, of weight wage. this war against the china market. the last pontificating words without giving a prediction. go ahead. yeah, i don't. i don't think we should completely write off military conflict with china as, as the tariff or will escalate the economic war. tensions will grow on the ground and is trump has brought people in notice the deputy secretary of state l bridge. colby is one of the most blaming war mongering. china hawks imaginable. and
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trump may not care about the taiwan straits, but the taiwan straits care about, you know, him, right. they, they, they, they care about, you know, the united states and the south china sea might be an even bigger flash point. then the taiwan straits. although intrinsically they are linked together. so, i mean, again, there's only 3 types of, of us, of foreign policy and political lead. they all want war with russia, china, e, ron, they just prioritize which of those 3 wars they want more. well, i mean, and in 2025, which one is which one is on the top of the totem pole? i would have to say e, ron, but china comes close behind and russia hasn't gone away. george, hep, what, what's your, what's your ranking? i think i think it's the russian. 5 any around in china? ok, we still got 30 seconds. go ahead george. so, well,
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i think it so because russian work is the ongoing want and, and therefore, because i think this is going to be the subject of, at least for the 1st 6 months, maybe even the year of the trump administration. i've tried to deal with this uh, ukraine issue that's i think it's going to be very dangerous because i think it's, it's probably will fail. and if these initiative fail, then i think trump will escalate and trump like to take risks. you know, that he sees himself as a risk beta and, and that's when it gets good. good, good for. okay. okay. i hope everybody had a good new year because according to my esteem guest here is going to be a be a pretty gloomy and dreary 2025. anyway, i want to thank my guest in budapest and here in moscow. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our to see you next time. remember, the, the,
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the 2025 is here in moscow and beyond nations around the blue lights up the night sky, with mass celebrations for all the dawn of the new year. assigned to load everything that we brought for. first of all the for the full suit. it's all here and a lot of presence, of course that what the frogs, all the boxes and fields near and the angel. all those present are these helps bring the new year celebration for children of done by the virus is no longer welcome. not sentiment is echoing in the africa pots on the heels of spanish all private coast as its name.

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