dot com will be basket around full pm here in most go with another, looked at the stories you need to know the, [000:00:00;00] the piano, the moon, but he, i q band t from in campbell county in the republic of k. as we continue our conversations about the continent of africa with today, focus on a subject that is very painful to wrap our minds around

the conflict between the democratic republic of congo and rwanda. and in order to understand and appreciate that conflict, we must always go back to history. we must always remind ourselves that these conflicts that we encounter into the continent of africa as a result of the petition of the continent when julia is come, bug in your area was alive. and he was asked at one time about the problem in congo at that time. it was known as a he reminded these audience is the or this board does that. we inherited parts of the problem. it is important to note that in did in 1963, when most countries that regained independence do are those during the add this up of

a meeting one and the board has to be re negotiate with them. i said no, not so said no, no to say no on a 2nd meeting was actually held in kylie in 1964 at which it was resolved that the colonial boundary should be detained. did his call or the doctrine of the, in a viola ability of colonial boundaries. it is in that context that we must see the conflict in congo. because when the belgians to what is the now the democratic republic of congo, there was a time when rolanda and the balloon, the actually controlled by the germans. and it was then, or there was then known as the one the and then they became trust. territories of the belgians, and that is what most people know,

but not the time the boundary as well. such a niche. is that a large segment of the one these why in the are see the thoughts the kingdom was awfully in the d r. c. on some of them was to be found in what is present day one the on the present day wounded. so when the 1st, the problem started in one day when the more not cause they moved in 1959, when there was a must occur on the top. see why this bus, the different parts of africa, particularly in uganda. some found themselves in tons and the, and of course some remained in east on google. that in my view was the genesis of the programs that we see today. and it is also around resources. it must not just be seen as an estimate conflict. as somebody said, come go, i think i think it is much in meredith in his book,

the fortunes of africa. he said that in the congo is saw in the house with minerals, some of the least conservatively estimate that there is that 4.3.4 trillion was of main roads in the democratic republic of congo. so because the history of congress started with the conflict number one with the elimination of the moon, but number 2, with the 5 they attempted suspicion of that down the and of cause the conflicts have generated on environment where there is a conflict on it came to a head when demo, but the gym was collapsing when the gym was collapsing and the hall. this should have been a, was been beginning to mount is fight against the with the resume. it is instructive that the administrations of followed the government at that time and you waited a good them was 70 in uganda. why in the forefront of supporting the couple of

horses and then did when the forces found themselves moving to be a shot. so they were led by that one day as far as this, i know a friend of mine who has been the general and is now in the military or intelligence advisor in uh, in, in, in one. so the problem i applied a different part of the time, and the company is the government, the company's administration, during the could be the one that is a be the hall when he was assassinated on the son to called joseph gabriella. the problem is one, not that many, but 1996, something happened in fungal, which led to what is sometimes referred to as the african while the war. there are so many countries involved in that war. in 1996, there was i've been fight and it is estimated the nearly 1000000 the depending on

who you are talking to 1000000 dead and the millions of costs displays on this in itself the to create a problem where the company's administration one now beginning to say that there's one d is in the congo, must go back to the one on the people in the calling that wendy's was saying, we are not one these. we are all these we are born here and it is the boundaries that separated us from off keeps on can, in what is present day one. so as a result of that, they have been many attempts at peace. we know that the united nations, as the standing foss, that is present in global, even as we speak. so there has been an attempt at the mediation by the u. n. it is important to note that the democratic republic of congo is a member of 3 regional organizations, the sol solved for within the region. it is a member. it is also a member of the central office, a nation,

and has been admitted into the east african community. that is why all these attempts at the mediation, i've always been taking place, but somehow this has not worked as well. and we now have a fuss, which is the m $23.00. and they have been a 2 vision to which has been documented, given by the united nation, that the m 23 get some logistical support from the land. but the one day is government has always been clear that these individuals are fighting for the 33. they may share something with us in terms of ethnic origin, but they are communities they may call themselves by normal land get by the activities. and i think the doctor is not to be disputed. and the question then is how to use all of this. and those things have happened in there isn't past this

article community, including countryside desk and you and uganda to the a forced us to the democratic republic of congo, particularly in the eastern, but to preserve peace. but the colonies was very unhappy because there was what then was called the knight rode the initiative, which did not go very fast. they then went back the side deck on the side that the deed supply the forces during the administration of robot god being will god be. and even now during the administration of the prison, well known god bless. and that too has not done much in terms of resolving this particular issue. the question then has been, if it is true that the wanda is involved, if it is true that uganda is involved. if it is true that the democratic republic of congo is unhappy with these, particularly with the one, what then must be done on the ongoing basis. negotiation has come from

a very unusual course. valdez on board and many uh the meetings that i've been held young or in the month of november of 2020 full getting the head of state summit in alicia in 1000. yeah. it was a not to the is of the president of global. she shifted the did not attend because she did not want to meet, but it's been done. and of course then forgotten me. it was all ready to meet. they thought it would be negotiated. but cindy office as a web presence on one of the things that was raised during that meeting is that there is need to support the ongoing initiative. so he stood up p a now that a number of things have been accepted, that there is a conflict which is of a diverse stating kind and that there is need to ensure that that conflict is brought to an end and that, that will require,

among other things that the forces that are being supported by the one that as it is now documented by the u. n. and the forces that seem to be the crossing instability and that's part of the area ought to be brought to the negotiation table. but it is also important to note that even as we talk about the m 23, which is one of the bit organized, there is documentation this to show that they are nearly 120 on the groups in it's on the phone. well known box even more and this must be understood in the context of expand or hundreds external hands to mean individuals and private companies which i involved in mining in the democratic republic of phone with, based on the side of it. and they have these groups. we provide them with security . so that's even a view of focusing on m $23.00. the question is,

what are you going to do with these groups which uh, not under any formal command, but which posed a threat to the democratic republic of congo. i know that the meeting over child and so we brought together presents just your kid and for them to guide me. i've now agreed that there is a need for us ceasefire on one hopes that in the not too distant future, the competence of the parties in dispute would be brought together. and one of the things that for the child are and so as i said, which i think is critical, is that for the purposes of negotiation, we ought not to apportion blame that for the purposes of ensuring that the seas via ours, it is important that the font is come to the table with a pin hot, and they have been reminded times without number that in did in the context of each

task. because even in the context of side, it is important that they all agreed to a c is via and when they ha, but staples is fire. that is, when you can now begin to negotiate us to the offshore residence of the people who are called in to dispute and who are the source of this problem. but what is clear and what is historically documented is that this conflict is a conflict which are the troops because of the colonial boundaries on this colonial boundaries. divided people is in the mind that the was that once a bit tricky and painful and that it is now in convent upon the administration, both in the democratic republic of bumble and in the republic of rhonda to ensure that they allow the young girl a process to be successful because it has the mud as the most acceptable, the most stable and the one that is pointing,

the fact is in the right direction. and the mood is also right. the mood is right that the companies, but additions on the code, the mondays, but additions appear to be comfortable with for the child or and so on. perhaps the fact that these 5, the move down day and on goal is very useful. and in this regard, i look forward to the day when the d. s. a and one to will sit at the table of negotiation and they will come out and face with the breakout and they will collaborate as brothers and sisters. and based on the community side doc, and of course, the continental profit. thank you very much. we'll continue with our conversations on the continent of africa, but let us take a break. we'll come back to continue with the conversation. the plato says the line should not be considering a piece plan for your grades,

but instead be focused on sending more weapons to the queue. again, the alliance demonstrates it can never entertain plans for peace instability, as well as security for all in the meantime, just want to continue the you. hi, i'm tiana removing but here in the center of night road, this city in the republic of kenya. and as we continue to focus on the continent of africa, today, we focus on the critical question, all day industrialization of the mazda continent. it is always important that then we realize that the mazda continent is divided into a 50 full or countries courtesy of the colonizer,

as with the diabolical conference in violin, in 188411885. when the struggle for independence started in on is the need as of the day was quite clear that if i was to realize potential, she had 3 and done screwed eyes on. we see these are tense of industrialized vision, azalia, the 1900 on fifty's. when gum on, i'm good enough. start who's saying all of you nice. generalize this? this was a con. no. it is all about the attempt of industrialization. when is that they are swan hi done on the river, not. and it is about industrialization. when the stop is just the one