on both that in my view was the genesis of the problems that we see today. and it is also around resources. it must not just be seen as an estimate conflict. as somebody said, come go, i think i think it is much in meredith in his book, the fortunes of africa. he said that in the congo is saw in the house with minerals, some of the least conservatively estimates that there is that the 4.3.4 trillion was of minerals in the democratic republic of congo. so because of the history of global started with the conflict, number one with the immunization of the moon, but number 2, with the 5, the attempted succession of got down the on of costs. the conflicts have generated on environment where there is a conflict on it came to a head when demo, but the gym was collapsing when demo, but the resume was collapsing on the hall. this should have been

a was then beginning to mount is fight, abuse the with the resume. it is instructive that the administration's own fault, the government at that time, and you ready for a good that was 70 in uganda. why in the forefront of supporting the copying offices and then did when the color forces found themselves moving to the assessor, they were led to by that one day. as far as i know, a friend of mine who has been the general and is now in the military or intelligence advising in, in, in lawanda. so the problem applied a different card at the time, and the company is the government, the company's administration, during the cabella one, that is the be the hall when he was assessing, acted on the son to called joseph gabriella. the problem is one, not that many, but united, 10100, the 9th, the 6 something happened in phone book,

which led to what is sometimes referred to as the african. why the war there are so many countries involved in that war. in 1996, there was, i've been fight and it is estimated the nearly 1000000, depending on who you are talking to 1000000 dead on millions of costs. the displace on this in itself did create a problem where the company's administration one. now beginning to say that this one d is in, congo, must go back to the one on the play in the calling bid. wendy's was saying, we are not one these. we have all these we were born here and it is the boundary is the separated us from off keeps on can, in what is present day one. so as a result of that, they have been many attempts at peace. we know that the united nations as the funding fos that is present in congo even as we speak. so there has been on attempt

at the mediation by the un. it is important to note that the democratic republic of congo is a member of 3 regional organizations, the south african region. it is a member, it is also a member of the central office, a nation, and has been admitted into the east african community. that is why all these attempts at mediation i've always been taking place, but somehow this has not worked as well. and we now have a fuss, which is the m $23.00. and they have been up to their sions, which have been documented even by the united nation, that the m 23 get some logistical support from the land. but the one day is government has always been clear that these individuals are fighting for the 33. they may share something with us in terms of ethnic agent,

but the companies they may call themselves by normal land get, but the companies and i think the doc is not to be disputed. and the question then is how to use all of this. and 2 things of happened in there isn't 1st, this i'm going to community including countryside, just can you and uganda to the forced us to the democratic republic of congo, particularly in the eastern, but to preserve peace. but the companies was very unhappy because there was what then was called the night road, the initiative, which did not go very fast. they then went back the side deck on the side, the deed supply, the forces during the administration of robot, god being with god be and even now during the administration of for the moon. and god bless. and that too, has not done much in terms of resolving this, but the place the question then has been, if it is true that the one that is involved, if it is true,

that uganda is involved. if it is true that the democratic republic of congo is unhappy with these, particularly with the one, what then must be done on the ongoing basis. and it goes to asian as come from a very unusual court. jody is on board and many uh the meetings that i've been held young or in the month of november of 2020 full getting the head of state summit in i'd wish in 1000. yeah. it was a not to the is that the president of global she shifted the did not attend because she did not want to meet for them to come down. and of course, the forgotten me, it was all ready to meet. they thought it would be negotiated, but cindy office as well at present. and one of the things that was raised during that meeting is that there is need support,

the ongoing initiative. so you to the p a now that a number of things have been accepted. there is a conflict which is of a diverse stating kind and that there is main to ensure that that conflict is brought to an end. and the will require, among other things, that the forces that are being supported by one that as it is now documented by the u. n. and the forces that seem to be the cussing instability and that's part of the area ought to be brought to the negotiation table. but it is also important to note that even as we talk about the m 23, which is one of the better organized various documentation this to show that they are nearly 120. the groups in is done phone while on profit even more. and this must be understood in the context of external hunch, external himes, to mean individuals on the private companies which i involved in mining in the

democratic republic of phone. but based on the side of it, and they have these, i'm the groups, we provide them with the security. so that's even a view of focusing on the $23.00. the question is, what are you going to do with these groups which uh, not under any formal command, but which posed a threat to the democratic republic of congo. i know that the meeting over child and so which brought together the present future katie and then cook. i'm a, i've now agreed that there is a need for sees fire on one hopes that in the not too distant future, the competence or the font is in dispute would be brought together. and one of the things that for the child are and so as i said, which i think is critical is that for the purposes of negotiation, we ought not to a push to blame that for the purposes of ensuring that the seas file whores. it is

important that the font is come to the table with a pain hot, and they have been remind the times without number that in did in the context of is tough because even in the context of side of it is important that they all agreed to us is fire and when they have a stable ceasefire, that is when you can now begin to negotiate us to the offshore residence of the people who are called in to dispute. and who are the sorts of this problem. but what is clear and what is historically documented is that this conflict is a conflict. we charge the troops because of the colonial boundaries on this colonial boundaries divided peoples in a mind that the was that once a bit trivial and painful, and that it is now in convent upon the administration. both in the democratic

republic of bumble and in $35.00 because linda, to ensure that the allow the young girl a process to be successful because it has the mud as the most acceptable, the more stable and the one that is pointing. the fact is in the right direction and the mood is also right. the more it is right, that the companies, but additions on the code the one day is for the patients appear to be comfortable with for the child or and so on. perhaps the fact that these 5, the move down day non goal is very useful. and in this regard, i look forward to the day when the d, r c and one, the would sit at the table of negotiation and they would come out on pace with the breakout and they will collaborate as brothers and sisters. and based on the community side doc, and of course, the continental wasik. thank you very much. we'll continue with our conversations

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i am theater to moon, but here in the center of night road, this city in the republic of kenya. and as we continue to focus on the continent of africa. today, we focus on the critical question of the industrialization of the mazda continents . it is always important that the we realize that the mazda continent is divided into a 50 full or countries courtesy of the colonizer, as with the diabolical conference in violin, in 18841880 5. when the struggle for independence sponsored in on is the need, as of the day, was quite clear that if i recall was to realize potential, she had 2 in dumps. good eyes on. we see these are tens of industrialized vision,

azalia, the 1900 on fifty's. when gum, i'm good enough said who was saying, all of egypt nationalized as this was no. it is all about the attempt of industrialization. when his thoughts, they are swan hi done on the river nod. it is about industrialization. when he establishes the hell one, iron nuns still subsidy, it is all about industrialized fish. and the spirit of industrialized this and is made alive even by the lead has gone the crime in gloom. off the gun already gains independence in 1957 begins the conversation around industrialization. it is on that basis. that is,

that's the main job power project along the vote 30. but on the 190161, on the location of the loans of the climate unit advise department of groom a university or science on technology. and who am i seeing a gun they are subject to foretell is a gun. they understand africans that our due date is to ensure that we industrialize i late the institute, the gun on nuclear project. because a is looking to watch industrialization when they are sag, give for your advice, needs as in 1958. you knock, i've done, it talks, read them, adults industrialize ish. when he meets with the lead, as in what i'll call you 916. this is about independence. and industrialize is on the 1900 on 63, within the days of 22nd,

on the 25th of may when they need this not to lead us the mind. benita, that's africa most industrialized. so the whole idea of african industrialized vision on the off because id i bought to muscling the, i mean so is this is something that i've been with us the very if that's bad, there's something missing that them i bought in a gun in times and yeah, they are talking about this top measurement of hydro, electric power, the building of the country. but um, oh, this is a balance offer con industrialized dish, but as well i'm going to put all my one said the corner nice size. now if i change the id and a they come on the different guises and they come under the guise of industrialize this. perhaps it is on the same $1.00 and $1.00 suckle.