of the continent when julius come bug in your area was a lie. and he was asked at one time about the problem in congo at that time. it was known as a he reminded his audience is that these board does that. we inherited part of the problem. it is important to note that they did in 1963. when most countries that regained independence do are those during the add this up. i'm missing one and the board has to be read, negotiate the put them. i said no, not. so i said no, no, no, to say no. on a 2nd, the meeting was actually held in cairo in 1964, at which it was resolved that the colonial boundaries should be a day and did his call or the doctrine of the in

a vital ability of colonial boundaries. it is in that context that we must see the conflict in congo because when the belgians to what is the now the democratic republic of fumble, there was a time when rolanda on the balloon the was actually controlled by the germans. and it was then, or there was then known as the one the and then david, tim trust, territories of the belgians. and that is what most people know, but not the time the boundary as well. such a niche. is that a large segment of the one these? why in the are see the thoughts the kingdom was awfully in the d r. c. on some of them. what to be found in what is present day one the on the present day wounded. so when the 1st the program started in one day, when the more not cause it removed in 1959, when there was

a must occur on the top. see why this bus, the different parts of africa, particularly in uganda. some phones themselves in tons and the, and of cause some remained in east on google. that in my view was the genesis of the programs that we see today. and it is also around resources. it must not just be seen as an estimate conflict. as somebody said, coma, i think, i think it is much in matter. this, in his book, the 14th of africa, he said that the congo is saw in the house with the minerals some of the least conservatively estimate that there is that 4.3.4 trillion watts of minerals in the democratic republic of congo. so because the history of gong was started with the conflict number one with the immunization of blue moon, but number 2, with the 5,

the attempted succession of got down the on of costs. the conflicts have generated on environment where there is a conflict on it came to a head when demo, but the gym was collapsing when demo, but the resume was collapsing on the hall. the city of bella was then beginning to mount is fight against the move with the resume. it is instructive that the administrations of for the government at that time and you ready for a good that was 70 in uganda. why in the forefront of supporting the could be left was and then did when the forces found themselves moving to the assessor. they were led by that one day. as far as i know, a friend of mine who has been the general and is now the really 3 or the intelligence advising in, in, in one. so the problem i applied a different part of the time and the company is the government,

the company's administration. during the could be the one that is the be the hall when he was assessing, acted on the son to call by joseph gabriella. the problem is one, not that many, but in 1909 to 6. something happened in phone book which led to what is sometimes referred to as the african. why? the wall there was so many countries involved in that war. in 1996, there was the being fight under it is estimated the nearly 1000000 the depending on who you are talking to 1000000 dead and the millions of costs the displace on this in itself. be to create a problem where the company's administration one now beginning to say that the one d is in the congo must go back to one. and the people in the room they are calling bit one days was saying we another one. these. we have all these we were born here

and it is the boundary, is the separated us from off keeps on can in what is prison day one. so as a result of that, they have been many attempts at peace. we know that the united nations, as the standing foss, that these present in the congo even as we speak. so there has been an attempt at the mediation by the un. it is important to note that the democratic republic of congo is a member of 3 regional organizations, the solid, soft within the region. it is a member, it is also a member of the central office, a nation, and has been admitted into the east african community. that is why all these attempts at mediation i've always been taking place, but somehow this has not worked as well. and we now have a foss, which is the m $23.00, and they have been a 2 vision, so which have been documented even by the united nation,

that the m $23.00 get some logistical support from the land. but the one day is government has always been p a that these individuals are fighting for the 33. they may share something with us in terms of ethnic origin, but they are companies, they may call themselves buying them land get. but the companies, and i think the thought is not to be disputed. and the question then is how to use all of this. and 2 things of happened in there isn't past this article community, including countryside desk and you and uganda to the of forces to the democratic republic of congo, particularly in the eastern, but to preserve peace. but the companies was very unhappy because there was what then was called the night road, the initiative, which did not go very fast. they then went back the side deck on the side of the supply, the forces during the administration of robot god being will god be. and even now

during the administration of the prison, well known god bless. and that too, has not done much in terms of resolving this, but the place the question then has been, if it is true that the one that is involved, if it is true, that uganda is involved. if it is true that the democratic republic of congo is unhappy with these, particularly with the one, what then must be done on the ongoing basis. and it goes to asian has come from a very unusual court valdez on goal. many uh the meetings that i've been held in on going on in the month of november of 2020 full getting the head of stage summit in english in tons. and yeah, it was a not to the is as the president of global she shifted the did not attend

because she did not want to meet. it has been done. and of course has been forgotten me. it was all ready to meet. they thought it would be negotiated, but cindy office as a web presence, and one of the things that was raised during that meeting is that there is need to support the ongoing initiative. so you sort of p a now that a number of things have been accepted, that there is a conflict which is of a diverse bathing kind. and that there is need to ensure that that conflict is brought to an end. and that will require, among other things, that the forces that are being supported by one that as it is now documented by the u. n. and the forces that seem to be the cussing instability and that's part of the area ought to be brought to the negotiation table. but it is also important to note that even as we talk about the m 23, which is one of the better organized there is documentation of this to show that

they are nearly 120 the groups in it's on the phone well on box even more and this must be understood in the context of x panel hands external himes to mean individuals and private companies which i involved in mining in the democratic republic of phone with based on the side of it. and they have these, i'm the groups, we provide them with security, so that even as you are focusing on the $23.00, the question is, what are you going to do with these groups? which uh, not under any formal command, but which posed a threat to the democratic republic of congo. i know that the meeting over child and so we brought together presents just your kid and then coming up now agreed that there is a need for us ceasefire on one hopes that in the not too distant future,

the competence of the front is in dispute. would be brought together and one of the things that for the child are and so as i said, which i think is critical is that for the purposes of negotiation, we ought not to apportion blame that for the purposes of ensuring that the c is 5 hours it is important that the font is come to the table with a clean hot, and they have been reminded times without number that in did in the context of is tough because even in the context of side of it is important that they all agreed to us is via and when they have, but staples sees fire. that is when you can now begin to negotiate us to the offshore residence of the people who are called in to dispute and who are the source of this program. but what is clear on what is historically documented is that this conflict is

a conflict. we charge the troops because of the colonial boundaries. and this colonial boundaries divided peoples in a mind that the was that once a bit privy and painful and that it is now in comment upon the administration, both in the democratic republic of bumble and in the republic of lunda to ensure that they allow the young girl, a process to be successful because it has the mud as the most acceptable, the more stable and the one that is pointing, the fact is in the right direction. and the mode is also right. the mode is right that the companies, but additions on the code, the one these for the patients appear to be comfortable with prison child or and so on. perhaps the fact that these 5, the move down day non goal is very useful. and in this regard, i look forward to the day when the d. s. a and one to will sit at the table of negotiation and they will come out and this will break out and they

will collaborate as brothers and sisters. and based off of the community side doc, and of course the continental bye. thank you very much. we have continue with our conversations on the continent of africa, but let us take a break. we'll come back to continue with the conversation. the plato says the line should not be considering a piece plan for your grades, but instead be focused on sending more weapons for cue. again, the alliance demonstrates they can never entertain plans for peace and stability,

as well as security for all. in the meantime, just want to continue the i am theater to moon, but here in the center of night road, this city in the republic of kenya. and as we continue to focus on the continent of africa, today, we have focus on the critical question of the industrialized vision of the mazda quantum. and it is always important that the we realize that the mazda continent is divided into a 50 full or countries courtesy of the colonizer, as with the diabolical conference in violin, in 18841880 5. when the struggle for independence started in

on is the need as of the day was quite clear that if i was to realize up what 10 show she had during dunst good eyes on. we see these are tense of industrialized vision, azalia, the 1900 on fifties. when gum, i'm good enough, said who was saying, all of egypt, it's nice generalize this. this was a con. no, it is all about the attempt of industrialization. when his thoughts, they are swan hi done on the river, nod, it is about industrialization. when he establishes the l one i on on still subsidy, it is all about industrialized fish. and the spirit of industrialized vision is made alive even by either lead as gun requirement room of

the gun already gains independence. the 1957 begin is the conversation around industrialization. it is on that basis. that is thoughts, the may job our project along the vote 30, but on the 190-1611 the location of the loans of the climate unit advise the department of glue my university or signs on technology. and for my seen a gun, the associate foretell is the gun ends on the africans, that our due date is to ensure that we industrialize i late the institute, the gun on new project. because he is looking to watch industrialization when the a sudden get for you and vice need as in 1958, you knock out gun.