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by u. s. u k u back to israel. this after a run, finally retaliated for the gaza genocide. the test run this as a nation of palestine chief negotiator attacks on the radian diplomats and the killing of thousands in bay ridge to a res iconic lebanese resistance need to has. and that's why the wind circle genocide. jo, how it goes. tire is not presiding of a millions display, skilled a wounded, mostly women and children right across this region. i'm drawing now from rome by alice to cook. you k, diplomat in full that you foreign policy chief advisor. he's a founder and director of the baby based conflicts for him and all of the resistance, the essence of the as the mist revolution. thank you so much alice to have a joining us again. it's been a while a lot's happened in the era as you're on going on the ground. i think in the beginning of this year, you can see from the headlines. is there any one of go story? and that's a do by based gulf. the news you run attacks that israel vfc, the japanese paper thing, israel steps up
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a tax on iran proxies as if they're all just their own proxies everywhere. i guess 1st your take on whether there is now there's no real us defendants. they said, the largest fleet of the united states has in this area and then at least in the mediterranean, didn't seem to scare your own. you know, i think that was deaf. would have been a mistake. i don't think there's been a lot of talk about it wrong being frightened or scared or does to the porcelain bass. in fact, it was a calculated decision maybe or in the wrong, by the leadership this, it would not want to cause a regional white wall. big war, in other words, in the region, but for all sorts of reasons, i mean not because they were particularly fright deposit. they've been preparing
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for it for about 20 years. but simply because a lot of this happening and the very much aware of being very close in touch with most of as you know, the pregnant issue is already coming to a head at the moment. this in the most moments of crisis for the united states facing a major, major defeat of the us, the and the secondly, because the brick summit is coming up on the 25th of this month. and i think that both must go and cut her arm and of course, praising would likes us to parcel well and be a substantial meeting with many new initiative. some of us. yeah, i mean i, i do want to get back to this region, but india is foreign minister, j shrunk, it was width binds, and i mean, i'm not sure whether anyone is with the bible as it was in the white house. and it
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goes to india. has a huge and international, lots of transport, cory door operation going, which iran is an important, essential part to the united states to understand what's happening in the brakes. and what will be discussed in cars on the tool or they're just signaling. look at all american interests in the region should activate against the threats of a run just when india is doing a massive deal with a run, as is russia. and as is china i, i don't think that the moment there is much understanding of the middle east. i think most of the middle east experts that were in the state department and other places have been removed. they have been removed and we have a being run essentially by people who do not have much expertise in it. for us, they have expertise like pay most cost time. it is rarely from the is really perspective
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problem from the united states perspective. that's the us on boy, it was an idea for us. this is basically is rails man in the abiding cabinet. yes, he has her, he has an office in the white house. a he moved from state to buckland, where he did the demarcation negotiations with lebanon above maritime areas of exploration. and then he went into the white house with one secretary and the team and the state department was dissolved as i understand it. so he's sort of all brakes as a one man band, director of the white house. yeah, well i want to explore whether it is incompetence or it is actually by design. i'll give it a but just briefly when it comes to the incompetent side of things, a rookie mistake by president possessed can, will be wrong to come out with the bizarre statement that somehow he'd had ej assurances that restraint would be rewarded. restrain from the wrong would be
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rewarded in the light of the smile on the mud or in the tear on which we between the reward it was, was no swallows assassination. so, i mean basically basically i suppose you could put it in those terms, but as it has been, the was sort of there is politics involved and less than 10 are wrong. and i think that um, when, as ash can, who doesn't have that sort of experience was made for president. he was pretty well captured to can we say buys a basically buys as i read some cut to me sort of a crew in, in iraq. and so he did and to his embarrassment, he did believe assurances that he was given
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a by you your appear on an american. both are see, is that the would be substances were leave of sanctions for iran, and that would be a guaranteed c scar. and garza on times that would be acceptable to hum us. and as he said, it is into view of 2 woods. they lied. none of it was true. um, so this being a lot of anger in iran and a lot of soul searching soul searching because ron, who is being very careful and it's reactions it is shown great. so for strange, really dating back to the killing of cut some sort of money. but also off to the attack on the syrian on the consulate in syria and damascus, where it raining and generally was killed. at that point,
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they did mitigate very much what drones and miss house 5. but it was cafe orchestration about alaska and who was the foreign minister of that time off to it's both. and he said that you know what we call to get this right. i mean, in the sense that we are trying to be restraining and also allows us conflict to escalate into a wider war. but we've called to maintain the sort of sense of the terrorist and we've got to maintain a sense of strength. so there is of been a lot of criticism. this is a restraint, much advocate it if you like, by that or a full missed wing. and the wrong has contributed to some extent of play, but contributed perhaps to israel, of feeling and pod to be able to take out the whole of that has put
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a leadership including say to us on the throttle and then to attack the level of across the board, i mean uh, from all sides of level of them. i mean, is riley suffering the soldier because a treat whereby they are dividing up their routes into sort of sectors and telling people to evacuate one sector, a move to another sector. and then when they've called the, as i told to move back, because that sector is about to be a tech. so there are more than the 1000000 displaced from the homes and the something a large number, i think 1500 killed them about 8000 injured. but these are not as bullet people the so basically ordinary level needs. that being said to be connected with, says paula. and of course we have the same. the same justifications. oh yes. um. has buller is hiding behind the people? he's using them as human shields in every house. there is they produce this
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fantastic idea of a sort of missile at b and b, whereby lebanese was sort of keeping me solace in the homes. i'm getting a small fee from his bullet for doing so. this is all nonsense complete nonsense because i was in lebanon in 2006, and before and often during the war. and even before the war, hezbollah took great effort to make sure of the one know up and saw o quit, indeed military assets that were anywhere near the level of these villages or cost . so they kept them quite away from it. so the idea that they know having this house in the attic and things is just a typical propaganda, but it has no no basis, but it's being used for the tax and the a tax r. as in garza intended to put pressure on the civilian lebanese population,
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imagining that back end to turn on on his book, in fact, fall more than in 2006 as well. let's have a nice with just the usual exceptions that's come out to them supporting that. i'm with the, for our minister and the president. think, you know, we stand as while this is an attack on the 11th the system to attack on, on as bo, we are being attacked right up through the back car and across a level and then, and, and very rude. so it's very different. but yes, there is a very awful lot of criticism of iran and the wrong is having to look very half the, you know, there is a real got it. i mean, you know, i don't want to make it sound so simplistic like you know, but it is. this is jessica contributed to, i mean, those are real dilemma. you can use self restraint if you like, in order to try and avoid going to abroad
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a war that is in the interest of the run, the interest of a rush. i see interest of order of the region not to have a full i'll, i'll turn out will. but at the same time, the other side cause that i remember it, is that actually by too much. so for a strength, you end up ways. if you like escalation and you end up with a wall anyway, and sometimes you find the bike cell for a stream. i actually will comes to you even wherever you wanted to know. so the question was, and this is why i think we had this officer and it was the honest, as it came from the supreme national security council. i just remind views that possession who as i do all the publicity has no say in these decisions. this is not his field. foreign policy security policy lies in calling with the supreme
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national security council under the supremely that the supreme leader makes the laws decision most the press spent. he is basically concerned with domestic administration of the state but not with foreign policy. and not with security. how's the good call? stop you about more from the former advisor on middle east issues, the foreign policy chief ivy as a loaner. after this break, the people who are disgusted with what's going on with that, sending huge amounts of money into the lensky in terms of weapons, tequila russians. we're actually, we're taking money away from people that have been one of the big things in the
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tell you that i know about domestically. is that doing covering labor government have taken one and a half 1000000000 pounds away from the the plug it back to going underground. i'm still here with us. decrypt for the british diplomat and founder and going director of the baby based complex for him. house during part one, you were talking to me about this yesterday and not having a foreign policy control in there on, i mean now give me, i mean i lived in that run. he does have power to resign at any rate, but as regards and i should also add disregard, spare, where we moved to gauge to the side of the national security measures as a true. so maybe he was a power to it's, i don't know, but there's a lot of, i mean it's a very lead pro tissue, but i just wanted to on the line. i mean it, ron is not alone in the style. lemme which i well did rush, i give them bad advice, reflected rush,
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i give them bad advice. me sure. stood by me just to make sure you know the day before as well. you know, russia has had had the same dilemma and during the war and you great, and there will be times where they've had setbacks reverse thoughts. and they've had to stop and think, reassess and, and actually the been changes in the, in the senior military leadership in moscow. so, i mean, these things are not confined to iran, is the general opprobrium about this dilemma that, you know, if you act with restrain, it'll get written wrongly interpreted this weakness and actually bring the boy you don't want onto. that is the danger. and so possess cams as being much criticized for those comments that he made and for in the sense almost go behind the backup of the system to talk about them in with the americans and with the europeans. because he does not have a mandate to do that. he does not have that monday that lives with the security
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council a lot with him. and it was the supreme leader who had audit if you liked the attack in retribution for the killing of nia. and they came from the tulsa full from the head of the security council. so i'm, there is a lot of sort of concern. i'm sure it will pause, but i think that's one of the reasons we have what we had uh the um, the recent miss all attack in, in, in iran, as iran in israel, as the iran wanted to recuperate. the sort of sense of the parents in the sense that they are serious and that also to show that they have the capability of some missile because of cost their restraint on the 13th of april when they 5 miss house full, wasn't misinterpreted completely as well. we'll just, you know,
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they were all knocked uh, 99 percent were not taught by a us above bad defense systems. and so now they've had to, does demonstrate that actually is wells at defense systems on not very effective. and that quite capable of landing ballistic missiles as to saw on tall gate in israel, in a very short notice. yeah, blanket idea of censorship at the moment of the impacts and the results of it. just some ripple is the tile of maze. we have 15 is we have never 10. we have 35 that had to him a base in israel have 35. is that 15 and not a single is riley casualty? it'd be, is to be bought uh, as regards the sell for spring criticisms, can we made that like that about certainly would've advantage over the libya to back left over, put in, allowing things to get to the stage. are they willing to hand stuff to them made on to and, and so forth. but is there
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a similar mistake being made by people who think that netanyahu is running the show here? i mean, we know biden said to minot, can megan in 1982. he wouldn't carry hold of 11 and civilians were killed. a was worse than men can vague in the, in the atrocities in 1982 blinking off to october 7th. and he came to me as well as a jew who was brought up of course, by a lawyer incomplete on 2 of the most ads robot maxwell, who stole the money in britain from the pension fund of samuel piece us a piece are. and i think is his name doing confident. and maxwell, is this a plan? was this a, the genocide jo plans in the beginning? because then so then jake sullivan of the national security council, the in the united states doesn't look so stupid load is blinking. nothing. yeah. we're playing mazda strokes here, bringing the u. s, which always wanted to get involved because clearly the us were involved in terms of the reaction to iran's retaliation using the destroys in the,
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in the red sea. and they're prepared for it. they going forward. this was the plan all alone. it wasn't. i mean, i'm not, you only can say that about ukraine work. the heavy, the dictators are lensky is losing, but this is the plan to exterminate costs. i think it's higher. so i think for is for, for a long time, i mean the plan about garza and the pon about the west bank. and of course, destroying this bullet has been loading about for a long time. and it is deeply entrenched in the israeli policy. and of course, netanyahu came to congress and related to ross very clearly. he said he invited america to war games get wrong. so you few like the head of the octopus. uh, that is strangling in israel. and he said this is a war of civilization against bumper some. so everyone knew that this was sort of
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in, in, in the works. now, i think there are 2 elements to this that, you know, don't blanket so directly. because of the 1st really, is that i think the, the, i think a particularly the most, the other parts of the system. but certainly not, you know, as a, the congress is old both in, unless of course, the other parts the new cause of certainly all the pentagon is getting increasingly worried about over extension. is that america's getting over extended the road, if you like, china is ramping up the pressure some in the pacific. they've good at law and all the carrier in the field. but the pentagon wants to put more resources that. and it's still preoccupied with ukraine. and to have a wall pin with iran and in the middle east, with all its american bases with all its, um, uh,
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a few like exposure as far as her abilities. i think it was not so popular. and i think that's probably what made the pentagon. i actually vito's the idea from bread and from others, from a blinking to a permit, the premiums, the fall. so miss solves deep into the deep into rush, although that can be changed. that could change the the moment of goes by the time this is broad. i could have back to that can happen, particularly in an election period. well, you know, a good i feel like political till he points are essential, appearing tough on budget, is considered to be the sort of from talking point to, to make. so for me, for, for by him and his team, but i'm just saying, i'm not sure, and i'm not sure at this moment if it's a good idea to have
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a wall where they are wrong in terms of the like to prospect of the policy and bar in the united states, i mean, that's a very complicated domestic calculation, which depends on the soul. do you like the world composition of these 5 swain states and, you know, in some there are quite substantial numbers of muslims. they belong to them already . surely by now with the pictures we've seen from gaza and 11 and the m and a nice area. and there are things i, i think so, but i mean these 5 states, so very crucial. i mean, the elections a one or austin this and the trying to recuperate. but i mean, actually they're getting the, taking that whole deeper and deeper with the statements that are being made and going to be, uh, how some last fall a is an iconic figure. there's been an iconic go, someone who has, you know,
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spend the low standing for national liberation and 2 colors. eliza, i mean to have been, you know, signs manifestations in kashmir, august of india, and across the middle east. venezuela in bertina, verified that his last, you know, i do want to get to actually go is a time in the time limited to us. i just want to say, why is it iran react using these traditional warfare means? i mean, it's a long time since carlos, the jackal was operating against the, the owners of israel as it were, the back as of israel. where's the asymmetric warfare going? i only ask because it is true that it was be just by design and that in fact, trump, who's being fed, that iran was behind his assassination attempt. and if the bible in any cases sponsor the genocide and gaza, if that was, if they had the power is behind it rather than all this obsession in the
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progressive media are arguably against nothing. yahoo is the input just now to attack the, the centers of power that the metropolitan powers which are the centers of power operating in west asia rather than using tel aviv it was, i think that the pressing festival. what you're saying is partially true, but the net, you know, who it has carried a lot of blame for what's happening and everything one says, well, if he was lost power or something, everything would be right. i don't think that this is necessarily the correct perspective. because actually he has the support of a cabinet. he has enough support within the capacity to survive until 26. and he's made it. oh is made it clear. i think he gave a, a,
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an interview in the seventy's to hastings writing a book. and he said, and the next full bull being, well, we will of take the girlfriend of expelled all of our skin in some arabs and i think between the river and the sea. so i mean, he's been part of this for a long, long time. and his father was a private secretary to deb attempts k, so he's a job, but since the revisionist, like most of the cabinet, and there is a majority of the, it's really is, it was obvious when this government came into par. and we saw that the miss roha, the jews had come from north africa in the middle east. we're taking key positions . these were the people at the beginning, a broad festival into a born, and then tuesday, they cooled. and this is great. they feel, i mean, you know, that program said it will. it was obvious some time ago. what was the program to
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establish and the israel on? yeah, i mean, is the program or a life? how is it indian state is the program of entity blinking, blinking. so it's broken up by the kinds of people we haven't got that much time left. they are no sign is we agree that both sides it's i don't think there's no difference on that. and i'm saying that actually, i mean what that is, the question is they've collectively lead into this. oh, did they just facilitate this as it has allowed me a who and they haven't had, i mean to be no restraints put on this the tool. so is it a question of passive permission given the passes because they're actively all they've signed another 9 busy and the other day 2 days before the h to the yeah, there's nothing passive about it and straight down very quick very quickly. and
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finally, very quickly. finally, i should, i actually went through this with you about brittany's role with rebecca theory based on the british prime minister thing. he's all up left for it. and then then denials that the you in the britain know a target for any resistance attack. should it become a symmetric and do a strategic and outside of west asia. julian hassan who gave us so much information with that, i suppose. i recall most importantly, babs at the moment, the memo from uh, jake sullivan to hillary clinton thing isis was on the us aside in syria as long as smoke for the 1st time about his torture. the counsel of your meeting this week. how far do you think his life is in danger away from all of these other here? big geostrategic topics. i mean, we did a lot of interviews with julian massage before his cafeteria and tortured by the british. the reason i called tell, i mean i can give you a notice or 2 to view,
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but i don't think it is in danger. no, i think he's done his deal way out to say he even knows that he was a journalist and did some things, but i think that's probably as much as one can tell the end of it. but i mean, who knows? i mean, those are the sort of the black areas of policy that you are not allowed to see. they all kept very much in the dark. i don't know, but i think i'm hopeful. anyways, he is. he's okay now as a drug. thank you. and that's over the show of continued condolences to those surviving u. k. you as you on violence here in the middle east, we'll be back for more on washington's wall with the brand new episode on monday joined by the c. i. as for mackenzie territory of georgia, michael, sure. until end, keeping josh viral as social media. if it's on sent to the new york country and to our channel going onto on tv, on mobile dot com to let you know that besides of going underground see monday, the
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