[000:00:00;00] the of the the, i'm actually in redundancy and welcome back to going, undergoing rule cussing all around the world from the u. a. in the heart of the middle east on the day 38 years ago. the well did confirmation of these rails may be 200 nuclear weapons. good to see the usa apartheid side of africa. and one of the hollywood store film produces israel has to this day no, come clean. the new k, a whistle blower motor kind of a new new would be honey draft and kid that from london by room for his revelations

before decades on torture in his riley prison. the world today tends to the prospect of the use of those nuclear weapons by u. s. u k. u back to israel. this after a run, finally retaliated for the gaza genocide. the test run this as a nation of palestine chief negotiator attacks on their radiant diplomats and the killing of thousands and babies to a res iconic, lebanese resistance lead to how side less route i would circle. genocide, jo, all the cause. tyra's, now presiding over millions, display skilled a wounded, mostly women and children right across this region. i'm joined now from rome by alice to cook. you k, diplomat in full day you foreign policy chief advisor. he's a founder and director of the baby base complex for him and all of the resistance, the essence of the as the mist revolution. thank you so much alice, of joining us again. it's been a while. lots happened in the era as you're on the going on the route. i think in the beginning of this year, you can see from the headlines. is there any one of course story, and that's

a do by based a gulf. the news you run attacks that israel vfc, the japanese paper thing, is real steps up a tax on the wrong proxies is if they're all just their own proxies everywhere. i guess 1st your take on whether there is now there's no real us defendants. they said the largest fleet, the united states has in this area and then at least in the mediterranean, didn't seem to scan your own. no, i think that was deaf. would have been a mistake. i don't think there's been a lot of talk about it wrong being frightened or scared or does to. it wasn't invest. in fact, it was a calculated decision maybe or in the wrong, by the leadership. this, it would not want to cause a regional white role. big war, in other words, in the region,

but for all sorts of reasons, i mean not because they were particularly fright, the budget. they've been preparing for it for about 20 years. but simply because a lot of this happening and the very much aware of being very closely in touch with most of i am as you know, um the payment issue is already coming to a head at the moment. yes. and the most moments of crisis for the united states facing a major, major defeat of the us, the and the secondly, because the brick summit is coming up on the 25th of this month. and i think that both the most go and care um and of course, basing would like this deposit of 12 and uh to be a substantial meeting with many new initiatives on us. yeah, i mean i, i do want to get back to this region,

but india is foreign minister jason cars width binds. i mean, i'm not sure whether anyone is with the bible is it was in the white house and it goes to india has a huge and international know it's a transport car, your operation going which iran is an important essential part to the united states to understand what's happening in the brakes and what will be discussed in cars on the tool or that just signaling look a all american interest and the region should activate against the threats of a run. just when india is doing a massive deal with a run, as is russia, and as is china, i, i don't think that the moment there is much understanding of the middle east. i think most of the middle east experts that were in the state department and other places have been removed. they have been removed. and we have

a being run essentially by people who do not have much expertise in it. or if they have expertise like pay most cost time, it is really from the is really perspective problem from a united states perspective. that's the us ongoing. it was an idea for us us as basically as rails man in the abiding cabinet. yes, he has, or he has an office in the white house, a he moved from state to buckland, where he did the demarcation negotiations with lebanon, about maritime areas. so the expiration and then he went into the white house with one secretary and the team and the state department was dissolved as i understand it. so he sort of operates as a one man band out to the white house. yeah, well, i want to explore whether it is incompetence or it is actually by design. i'll give it a but just briefly of when it comes to the incompetent side of things,

a rookie mistake by president possessed can be wrong to come out with the bizarre statement that somehow he'd had ej assurances that restraint would be rewarded. restraint from iran would be rewarded in the light of the smile on the mud or in the tear on which we between the reward it was, was enough for all i was as estimation. i mean, basically basically i suppose you will put it in those terms, but as it has been, the was sort of there is politics involved and less than 10 are wrong. and i think that when, as ash can, who doesn't have that sort of experience was made for president. he was pretty well captured to can we say buys a basically buys as i read from cut to me sort of a crew and in iraq. and so he did

and to his embarrassment, he did believe assurance is that he was given a by you your appear on an american. both are see, is that the would be substances relief of sanctions for iran. and that would be a guaranteed c scar. and garza on times that would be acceptable to hum us. and as he said, it is into view of 2 woods. they lied. none of it was true. um, so this being a lot of anger in iran and a lot of soul searching soul searching because ron has being very careful and it's reactions, it is shown great self restraint, really dating back to the killing of customers. so the money, but also off to the attack on the syrian on the consulate in syria and damascus,

where it raining and generally was killed. at that point, they didn't mitigate very much to what? drones and miss house 5, but it was costly orchestra and of the lot here and who was a for a minister that time off to it's spoken. he said that you know what we call to get this right. i mean, in the sense that we are trying to be restraining and lost a lot of this conflict to escalates into a wider war. but we've called to maintain that sort of sense of deterrence. and we've got to maintain a sense of strength. so there is of been a lot of criticism. this is a restraint, much advocate it if you like, by that or a full missed wing been did wrong, has contributed to some extent of play but contributed perhaps

to israel's feeling and pod to be able to take out the whole of that has been a leadership including say to us on the throttle and then to attack the level of across the board. i mean uh from all sides of level and i mean is really suffering the sort of because a tree whereby they are dividing up their routes into sort of set. so basically, ordinary level needs that being said to be connected with as well. and of course we have the same, the same jo certificate with the wall anyway. and sometimes you find the bike. so for a screen i actually will comes to you even whether you wanted to know. so it'd be sion for the killing of i'm there. and it came from the tall full from the head of like and megan in 1982. he wouldn't care it will, of lebanon civilians were killed,

a was worse them and i can vague in the, in the atrocities and 1982 blinking off to october 7th. and he came to israel as a jew who was brought up, of course, by a lawyer uncomfy, don't of the most ads robot and the pension fund of samuel piece us a piece are and i think is his name doing confident. and maxwell, is this a plan? was this a, the genocide jo plans and them send it to be the sort of for me talking point to, to make so to me for, for by him and his team. but i'm just saying, i'm not sure, and i'm not sure at this moment if it's a good idea to have a wall with the wrong in terms of the like to prospect of the policy and bar in the united states. i mean, that's a very complicated, nicely calculation which depends on the sort of electoral composition of these 5 swain states. and, you know, in some there are quite substantial numbers of muslims. they belong to them already

. surely by now, with the pictures we've seen from gaza. and 11 and the m and i there. yeah. and there are things i, i think so, but i mean these 5 states, so very crucial. i mean the election. so one or austin this and the trying to recuperate. but i mean, actually they're getting the, digging that whole deeper and deeper with the statements that are being made. and it will be, uh how some of the small a is an iconic filter has been like content for go. someone who as, you know, spend the low standing for national liberation and to colonialism. i mean, to, uh, have been, you know, signs manifestations in cash. yeah. august, uh, india and across the middle east. venezuela in bertina. verified that is last, you know, i do want to get off chico. is it time in the time limited to us? i just wanna say more. why is it wrong?

react using these traditional warfare means? i mean, is that a long times as carlos the jackal was operating against the, the owners of israel as it were, the back as of israel? where is the asymmetric warfare going? i only ask because if it is true that it was be just by design and that in fact, trump, who's being fed, that iran was behind, is assassination attempt. and if the bible in any cases sponsor to be genocide and cause if that was if they had the power is behind it rather than all this obsession in the progressive media are arguably against that. and yahoo! he is the impetus now to attack the, the centers of power that the metropolitan powers which are the senses of power, operating in west asia rather than using tel aviv it was, i think that the pressing festival. what you're saying is partially true,

but the know who it has carried a lot of blame for what's happening and everything one says, well, if he was lost power or something, everything would be right. i don't think that this is necessarily the correct perspective. because actually he has the support of a cabinet. he has enough support within that connects it to survive until the 26. and he's made it always made it clear. i think he gave a, a, in an interview in the seventy's to hastings. writing a book and he said, and the next for all being, well we will of take a girlfriend of expelled all of our screening and some arabs, and i think between the river and the se. so i mean, he's been part of this for a long, long time. his father was a private secretary to deb attempts k. so he's

a jump button ski revision is like most of the cabinet. and there is a majority of the, it's really is it was obvious when this government came into power and we saw that the mrs. raw hate, the jews had come from north africa in the middle east. we're taking key positions . these were the people at the beginning, a broad festival into a born, and then tuesday, they cooled. and this is great. they feel, i mean, you know, that program said it will. it was obvious some time ago. what was the program to establish and the israel on? yeah, i mean, is the program or a life? how is it in the instate this the program of entity blinking actually blinking. so it's broken up by the guides of people. we haven't got that much time left. they all know assignments with read that by assign it's, i don't think there's no difference on that. and i'm saying that actually, i mean what that is,

the question is they've collectively lead into this. oh, did they just facilitate it as it has a lot of the met him. yeah. who and they haven't had, i mean to be no restraints put on. it's not a tool. so is it a question of passive permission given because it's probably passive because they're actively all they've signed another 9 busy and the other day 2 days before the h to the yeah, there's nothing passive about it and straight down very quick very quickly. and finally, very quickly, finally, i should, i actually went through this with you about brittany's role with rebecca, teary, based on the british prime minister saying he's all up left for it. and then, then denials that the you in clearly britain know a target for any resistance attack, should it become a symmetric and you, a strategic and outside of west asia. julian hassan, who gave us so much information with the i suppose, i recall most importantly perhaps at the moment the memo from uh,

jake sullivan's hillary clinton thing isis was on the, in the us aside in syria as long as smoke for the 1st time about his torture at the council of your meeting this week. how far do you think his life is in danger away from all of these other here? big geostrategic topics. i mean, we did a lot of interviews with julian massage before his cafeteria and torture by the british. the reason i called intel, i mean i can give you a little slower to give you, but i don't think it is in danger. no, i think he's done it. his deal way had to say he even knows that he was a journalist and did some things, but i think that's probably as much as one can tell the end of it. but i mean, who knows, i mean, those are the sort of the black areas of policy that you are not allowed to see. they all kept very much in the dark. i don't know, but i think i'm old,

but anyways, he is. he's okay now as a drug, thank you and that's it for the show. i'll continued condolences to those surviving u. k u s. and you on violence here in the middle east. we will be back from or on washington as well, with the brand new episode. on monday, joined by the c. i. as for mackenzie, tara chief, dr. michael sure. until end keeping. josh, why will i social media if it's on sent to the annual country? and i, to a general, going on want to keep you on the come to watching you and all that besides of going underground semen, the people in disgusted with what's going on with that, sending huge amounts of money to the lensky in terms of weapons, to kill russians, when actually we're taking money away from people that have been one of the big

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