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just now the us president elect remains a convicted felon despite the lack of penalties otherwise. now this follows the us supreme court to rejection of the drums motion to false proceedings any of this week from but was charged in 2023 with falsifying records related to a quote costs money payments to american actress stormy donald over alleged effect claims. now these latest developments are on folding with just over a week to go before trump is scheduled to be inaugurated in washington. from up pennsylvania state, senator bruce marx says the legal actions against the drum, with bench to divert public attention from the democrats for it is i don't think it's going to have any impact at all. i think the voters of the united states realized this is what we call law fair. that it was a political prosecution of political conviction by the district attorney of new york. it was absolutely a tragedy. and uh,
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i think that is very likely that either the new york courts, or if not the u. s. supreme court is going to vacate the verdict in his case. so i think one of the purposes of this whole case was to divert attention away from the failures the by that administrator. and i think one of the purposes of this case, and we know that there are other cases as well as was to try to use the criminal cases to prevent donald trump from running for president again. and the u. s. supreme court automatically held that it was up to congress to address this issue. they made donald trump a stronger candidate so that we know that from the election he had an overwhelming victory. sweeping every one, every one of the content of the swing states. why stay with our team to national for all the latest i'm around the world? i'll see you again. by now. the
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the release of russian states never is as tight as i'm one of the most sense community best. most all sense and up the must be the one else calls question about this, even though we will ben in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on the russians to day and split the sport that came in our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube, the payment services to the question,
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did you say they requested the hello and welcome to cross ok. we're all things are considered. i'm to peter level . there's a saying, if you don't have a seat at the table, then you're on the menu. we can assume that this applies to the panama canal, greenland, and even canada, from some new world order is beginning to look like old fashioned 19th century imperialism the
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the cross searching terms, new world order. i'm joined by my guess, great passage. i do a in florida, he's co host of the convo couch in kingston. we have jail to lindsey, he is founder and director of the trans research institute. and in denver, we cross of tyler nixon. he is an attorney and political strategist or a gentleman, cross sock rules and effects. that means he can jump any time you want and i always appreciate it. possibly. let me go to you 1st in florida. i didn't think in the year 2025. the greenland and canada, so the panama canal would be on the menu. we have so many other pressing issues here. what is this all about? is it a diversion? is it a trump and geo political realist play? is this for the bass or none of the above and all of the above? i mean it, can you explain it to us? go ahead or some of the above a little bit is above. i don't know peter. i'm trying to make sense of it myself. listen, the only thing i can point to is that republicans can get certain things done. the
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democrats can't get done in vice versa. remember, it was clinton who pushed through nafta and he also pushed through the reform of glass steegal. well, when it comes to expanding the empire, besides george w bush was able to get in there and do what he had to do, it seems like donald trump has been tapped to do that. now, all i can think about other than that old school kind of saying some, some of the true, there's about the club of rome, which they want it. this big type of, uh, american empire and 10 just different districts is the resources that are there. you know, that's what's industrial evolution is dependent on those resources and greenland got a lot of them. so i think when you look at a, you know, from a perspective and stepping back, maybe that's just the, the west, the we, what they're doing, expanding and stealing more resources. and they've tapped trump to do so because it's based, we'll go along with whatever he says. yeah. but gerald, that's kind of an easy one. if we look at greenland, it is a member of the you is part of a denmark, nato. i mean, the united states has had
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a military presence in greenland since 1941, codified in 1951, a member of nato. i mean, why don't you just kind of have a deal? i mean, why do you gotta take over the place again? is this for maga because the and practical problems called ukraine, syria, you ran, this seems like easy pickings to me and it kind of on but cheap as well. gerald to remember, let's look who's the president. we took out the trademark back in 2016 when he ran for office. the presidential reality show. that's all it is. that's all this guy is usually an actor. he's a reality show, champ, he's been out of what, 15 years he did it on tv. you're not talking about zalinski right now. are you down to a house or you'd be the guy that plays the piano with his peter's? that was, that's no, no, i'm not talking about have, i'm talking about truck. let's go back. let's go back to the election. these are
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the facts, exit polls. which mattered most men deciding how you voted. 3 percent of harris voters and 4 percent of trump, voters should quote foreign policy. now. all right, now, foreign policy is the big issue. this guy is just blowing out this crap and actually he's doing and he's getting the people's minds off the reality of things. that's the way we see. you go back to the election quote, it's the economy, stupid. so this to me is just nothing more than a diversion on one end and all the other right. and what it looks at the middle east. it's the ramping up of more and more war. be not by my words by with his words or he said what he's going to do with um, uh, as it goes that's you said that the is really prison is must be released.
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otherwise, all hell will break loose or off the guide and send them self as a peace can do. that's the point of the whole program. gerald. here we go to a tyler in denver. i mean, you know, the, i appreciate it during his 1st administration. then he didn't start any new work, so i think that's, that's a good calling card. that's fair. okay. but coming out and saying, i think it was even over the weekend, even using military force to take greenland in panama. i mean, that seems to be a huge change in his approach here. i tend to think that i'm not disagreeing with my guess here. this is a bit of a diversion because we have teeth kelly coming out and say, well, i think we need uh, 100 days right now to figure out ukraine not 24 hours. i think you get my point. go ahead, tyler? yeah. well, i'd say, you know, it's a read my hips, not my lips, i guess, you know, look, trump likes to things he likes to make deals and he likes real estate. so, i mean,
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even this is not as this is not surprising. i don't think that he would mean, you know, he's that his eyes on greenland since the 1st term and what he's not talking about doing is invading any countries you're not talking about. i mean, you know, a ron really, i think that he knows that he's got a top tough and he's got to back it up with, with the military, with, with a strong military rebuilding the military. um for, for protection, for defense versus uh, the forest projection and the, the end of the wars for oil in the middle east. and i think the thing about trump is because he was the only one who was honest about what we're doing in the middle east. spacers and look, we're there for the oil and, you know, i think he'll be, he'll be straightforward about what he does in terms of that types of those types of moves if they're made. but what i think he wants to project as american economic force and might versus military might now with regard to panama, i think he said it best. he said, look, we turned over the panama canal, to the, to panama, not china. so, you know, and,
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and frankly were getting screwed and sell homes, you know, at the time, right. so look at that and not have the chinese projecting their, their power into that uh that pipeline that, uh, that a bottle next to the entire uh, you know, this, this entire hemisphere basically in terms of trade. yeah, yeah. one step ahead of me, a pass that, you know, if he look at, you know, greenland, you look at the panama canal, i mean, and, and then of course we haven't even mentioned taiwan yet on this program, but they're all related to china. so, but why can't you spin it that way? this is great power politics. okay. this is realism. we have to cover all our beds . i mean, i don't know if i'd necessarily agree with it. maybe it's as overly aggressive, but that is a coherent thing. you know, we need greenland for our national security. well, that's not as straightforward as saying, i'm thinking, jail, politically. i'm thinking big, but he's not making that cell pasta. well because he dances around the cell and the cell is really the about the resources. i think lindsey graham also told the truth
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out loud about ukraine having all these resources and peter, you know, you did mention to as well about the fact that, you know, donald trump said all ended in 24 hours. and that awful debate he had, he said, you know, a lot of stupid things about, you know, complying that haitians are reading people's pets and whatnot. but the one thing he said that resonated with a lot of people was the fact that people are dying in the ukraine and russia with this war. and he wants to end. well, his new guy that he just tapped keith kellogg in what people say, oh, he didn't start a new voice. yeah, peter, that's true, but he didn't end any good fight record greg, breaking contracts right. he gave the key every james weapons that brock obama wouldn't give them. the give this all these weapons to start genocide continue genocide in the admin. so this guy is not a piece candidate. and now with that he's, he's coming out and saying, if putting doesn't come to the table, he's going to send to, you have more weapons, you know, i think this is all about the same thing as empire. it's
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a resource extraction. and they just have the republicans to do what sometimes the democrats start, it's like they're heading off the bus on to one establishment member to the other. because, i mean, at the end of the day, donald trump is not him outside. are he a piece of the military industrial complex and the established like jail given loosely, it's funny that some people, you know what i want to want to not believe a trump says about certain things and other things, they take it as gospel. i mean, he hasn't even begun his administration at this. it just basically talk at this point. so until he makes any actual moves, i think, you know, this, this overheated sort of condemnation and that, you know, writing the man off before he's even begun his term. i mean, whatever he is, he's better than what we have, which is, which is at a total, i mean, biden is, is, i mean, i'm just blown away at what a, what a, what a, just a deem. and this guy, he is, i mean he goes to the lesser actually the, again, this is actually the average thing better than what we add. okay. we already saw
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a whole term of donald trump. we saw his policies. we saw a record breaking contracts to the pentagon, and we also see marietta addison fee of almost $300000000.00. he will do it is, will, it tells me to do just like bite and told, was told with buyers, well, what to do? okay, well i mean, since we're on the topic here, gerald the, me the, the issue of hostages and gaza, a trump, i'm paraphrasing here. we're on lease hell. i mean, what's worse than genocide? i mean, i had, this doesn't make any sense to me at all. general, go ahead or again, let's go back to the whole thing here. look at what we're talking about. now this was mentioned during the campaign. never word about this stuff. so the guys just, you know, blowing this stuff out and just changing the direction of the thing as positive side on it as we're talking about before about somebody that might which one mention about your trump being into real estate. how about this march 9th cheese 2024. jared cushion. a bip,
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his son in law to his daddy. you uh, weird that yahoo! when he came to america used to stay at the house. you had that guy, the guy that uh trump pod and phase crimes that jerry pushing it. yeah. no way. i don't get the netanyahu babies that blank and when he was a child keep going. yeah. blinking yeah. be as like it all. i went to adult and i with all the my daddy was yeah, the best isn't a hungry. my uncle was invested in belgium. all you all your but you know, body's any way jerry questionnaires praise the quote, very valuable gaza well waterfront property and suggested israel should remove civilians. well quote, cleaning it up. quote. it's a little bit on fortunate situation there. but for it miss rose prospective. i wouldn't do my best to move the people out and then clean it
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up. in addition, i would just hold those something at a gaz desert. i would try to move people in there. i think that's the best option. so you can go in and finish the job. yeah. well, and that's what's called a genocide. okay. does he just didn't use the word here? unfortunately, jim and gentleman, i have to go to a hard break. gerald, i'm going to come back to you when we come back from the break. after that break, we'll continue our discussion on from the new world order, say, because the, the many places in the world where you can stay on the divide between the 2 oceans . and over you might not think kids. what does this, hey, and what is northern or found guest vision. and the 2 knows that us national park.
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and today we know the stuff was taking a deep side interest, which because of the take a fresh look around. there's a life kaleidoscopic, isn't just a shifted reality distortion by tell us to do vision with no real opinions. fixtures designed to simplify will confuse who really wants a better. will's image it just as a chosen few fractured images presented to this. but can you see through their illusion going underground? can the welcome act across stock? were all things are considered. i'm peter liberal to mind. you were discussing trump's new world order the
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okay, let's go back to gerald. unfortunately, i did cut you off to go to the breaker. joe, i was kind of changing gears a little bit, but in line with the, the poll numbers that you read to us in retrospect and i agree, trump has not been inaugurated. that's still on the still ahead of us here. but getting, considering, you know, his is the spat within the republican party concerning a lawn, which i don't want to spend a lot of time on. i can do. we can do that another time here, but it has maga been played gerald, not at all. we again, i don't know what he's doing, but again, think about all talking about now that he did not, you know, talk about before. and now it's all more talk. so this to me is, is more of what we're going to be seeing. and i think it's a set up because what's going to be happening in israel, because he's also talking about wrapping up war against iran,
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us. and i think that's what they're pushing us toward, and he's going into one place after another. and there's nothing more than what you're nothing about. as again, it's the economy. stupid tyler, a way way in on that tyler, because my, my feet, my thesis on that is that the, the ukraine is turning in to be a lot more complicated than the trunk people want it to bleak with it's they'll just be a ceasefire and we'll do this and we'll delay membership, all the, all of that is a non starter. anyone knows about the complex knows that ok and there with the running up against a very hard, brick wall. but there are other, there are other theaters and it ran has already been mentioned here. your yeah, the all and also also to the new put the answer what the question i had for joe is maga being played here? go ahead, tyler? yeah, we, me, we've sunk hundreds of billions into your crane and i don't think anybody wants to just walk away and wash your hands of it. i mean, there's gotta be some sort of,
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uh, some sort of account ability. there are some that mean it's gotta be a wind down that, that, you know, makes use or somehow somehow accounts for that in, in the larger scheme of things. but has now given place. i'm gonna tell you, you know, it's uh, the, the other guess the gentleman said that they'll follow anything. the trump says, let me tell you something. there is a lot of discontent in the mag and movement right now. yet with a zionist influence on, uh, on trump and you know, there's a feeling of almost many people that are, they're willing to, willing to hold out for, you know, to see what he actually does. but there's a, there's definitely a lot of, um, this is a discontent with the people who surrounded himself with, you know, whether be the head of cantor fitzgerald running his transition along with, you know, with jared right in his ear. and frankly, they know the closing of the israel, i mean, look, he's been close to these people all along, but the fact is come to the forefront and it's become such a premier aspect of what he's talking about in the, on the lead up to is uh, is it on the ration as, as, as a lot of people uh, in the back of movement, uh,
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shaking their head as and wondering what the hell they, they got themselves into many ways. not everybody. there's always going to be the people who are in the middle of the trump, no matter what. but i mean, i think, you know, trump is, has been nothing if not wiley, in terms of his political success. so look, i mean, this is a, this might be, i always talking in the lead up to this. i mean, i think he knows that the power of rhetoric. yeah. you know, speaks well in this case and not speak softly and carry a big stick it speak loud and carry a big stick and you know, wave it around and whatever it takes. um, but he's the, was very effective in his 1st term in many ways. and, you know, with north korea and other, lucky he didn't, he didn't get us out of wars, but he certainly didn't get us into wars. i tend to think is, is his natural impulses to appease designers to the, you know, with rhetoric and with whatever you know, will make them feel better bad. i don't think he'll ever commit to any kind of groundwater or topic attacking around. i think that would be lunacy and i think it's, it's more rhetoric and i i'm thinking i don't think it will never happen under trump
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. yeah. but i guess i agree, disagree. no, he's in the past has mentioned it l 8 else is getting what? $300000000.00. when you put it all together, you move the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem. and now we say good people in, in gosh, they're going to pay hell if there's, if they don't release the hostages before he becomes president of the go to hell delivered at how well now look what they're doing with every day. how many 50 yesterday? 80 the day before killed. no, he's totally on their side. they look at the people he brought in. one after another one desire to stay after another. now he's in total control of them. and again look at jerry cushion. what i just read to you. we need the waterfront property. no, i just, i think he's going to keep wrapping his up. and he's also going to nato and saying that they need to increase the defense budget to 5 percent. and it was going to end the ukraine or quote and 24 hours. and now they're talking about
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a 100 days. yep. and they also said we saw the while we took the oil in syria, that was about is we all to as well, right? how long is this? well, the, what? 25 kilometers away from damascus right now. they barbs and syria. more than any time in history with this little cool that took over, i went for a cup of coffee and came back in this area at all. and it happened, so yeah, and the, and pasta and pasta, i so showed up in a suit did not amazing. yeah. yeah, yeah, i, yeah, i know. right. and then now the reform, you know, and i was even a little suspect about pollutants attitude toward what's going on over there. but that shows you how much power desired this nation has. because a lot of that oil that was taken out of syria, once again, we didn't start at the new wars, but it didn't end that. and the also set the table for what happened in syria during his administration. they didn't pull out video only. they sold their resources and they did it at the because the vote is real and he's gonna continue to do what is we'll tell them what to do. but going back to the magazine of,
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of work really quickly at the end of the day you had teen usa versus teen g lawn. i think that's what they would call it online. you had the bad it on one side, met with jack. but so big a laura lou, but you had you on musket visit on the other side with all the little minions that are not they call themselves the journalist. would you really just cheerleaders for donald trump? at the end of the day, they might scream and mode, but they'll still side on the dotted line for donald trump. so even though they really skepticism, they'll still back demand no matter what he wants to do, that it's the people who it's who in the populace, i think that's it. all right, this is the lesser of 2 evils. i think they're scratching their head today, especially after he says the c i a buzz get involved when he talked about getting rid of a deep sleep for years. yeah. well the gentleman, i thought elections had consequences apparently not. all right, i the last part of the program, i want to ask more of a kind of a metaphysical theoretical question and i'm going to start with pasta. you know, it seems to me and i was educated as a historian, but, and i look at, you know,
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you know, unbridled genocide to the breakup of syria as a sovereign state without a whimper at all. without a roberta just disappeared. okay. um we have uh countries like israel attacking wherever it wishes with impunity and bringing it up to the present. you know, donald trump, um once greenland, i mean my whole point is, is that it seems like a good part of the 20th century has been forgotten in terms of international law, international humanitarian law institutions. the united states used to and it did very uh, very skillfully infiltrate all international institutions to control them. now they want to destroy all of them. they don't want to be they, they don't want to be held under any kind of obligation. it seems to me we're going back quite to the 19th century. am i wrong? go ahead. positive. i know you're not wrong at all. and i think a lot of it has to do with the mindset of the united states. americans,
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the education, i think in education today, a college degree today might be equivalent to a high school degree 3040 years ago. right. you see all these people on the streets when they do these little funny skits when they tell them to point to north korea on a map. they can't find it peter. i mean this is the tick tock generation. and i think donald trump, at least though those who control them who those who work with them, i know that they can get to get across the people and they're not going to know their history and their banking on that. so really what it comes down to is we have a very, an educated public and the people who are in charge the social engineers, they understand the most of the people nowadays, they get their news from tech, talking instagram videos. so they're just taking advantage of the situation while everybody's back at home, eating domino's pizza and watching sports, regardless of what was going on beside the. yeah. and getting just the getting and getting diabetes in the process. i'm sorry. yes. yes, tyler, do you want to jump in there? i was gonna say, even if they were to engage what,
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what impact are they going to have? i mean, the israel lobby is so influential and has such a grip on american, the american political system. i mean, what the difference would it make you that people marching in the streets and the rebellion the practically and that wouldn't make a difference because they've gotten a hold of a levers. i mean, it's almost no escaping it. unfortunately, i don't know what it's going to take, but i mean, the idea that you're going to get a, a, as a non zionist influence president or really any government in this country at this point is, uh, it's going to be a major way of ranking. we're going to find out about that, gerald i, i suppose unfortunately we all had to experience mark is after burns, that address to the world. what does it, what are the most shameful things i've ever seen in my life? ok, i was forced to do this. we went too far and we what we can do better. um, no, it doesn't cut the mustard for me, but we're gonna find out in the next administration. uh, okay. you can criticize the trans movement, but you can't criticize israel,
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and we're gonna find that out on the trump administration. gerald again is our true policy to steer clear permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world to observe good faith and justice. tote, all nations cultivate peace and harmony with all the nation which indulges towards another individual hatred or to visual foreigners is in some degree of slave. that's george washington. yeah, there's a real man. that's what not like somebody's he goes with a shave age when he gets 4 or 5 draft of fragments. so we wouldn't have to go into the vietnam war. but board a z like more shape. they would buy one longer and a little boy for 5 drafter fragments, so they don't have to go into the vietnam war again. once upon a time, it was a guy by the name is mentally butler. yeah. war is a rack. is always yeah,
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it always has been, it is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable. surely the most vicious, he goes on a look at what could trump, he wants to increase the military budget. go back to when he was running the last time. one after another, he's going to rebuild the u. s. navy, towards the goal of $350.00 ships. rebuild the marine corps, the 36 battalions providing us air force with 1200 fight, if judge on it on and on and on. and on that, the bottom line is the military industrial complex as to why d eyes in our 5 star general supreme purely allied forces and to, to our president warned us the military industrial complex is robbing the nation as the genius of the scientist. this one of the laborers and the future of the children, and here we are. all right, gentlemen, that's all the time we have had a very interesting i. i like when you quote luminaries like eisenhower in
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washington. so much better than what we have in front of us today is leaders. again, i asked the question, do elections have consequences, we're going to find out. i want to thank my guess in florida, denver, and in kingston. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our tea. see you next time. remember across the the the corner. some remodeling teeth, some with less weight or more in the holding the fuse each screw when the customer will just didn't. i didn't know it sits on that's what it was supposed to do. it was still an ocean. but y'all are still, well, did you think you're better suited the right? they're gonna deduct months. you said live in years. the one telling me is that
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