the, the welcome across the bull horns. were all things are considered on people about who would have thought greenwood would be close to the top of the drum foreign policy agenda, summer, calling it the new imperialism with a copy of this includes looting america's allies. also, what is behind the laws must war on europe to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess george, send me wiley in budapest, he's a pod cast or in the guy go, which be found on youtube and locals and assemble. we have that experience, i'm not excusing historian and political commentator by gentlemen cross that girls in effect, that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciate it. all right,

let's kick this off with george george. i mean, considering all the things we've heard from the trunk, like incoming trump administration, particularly greenland, and that's kind of a rubric for a much more boisterous, a anomalous approach to foreign policy that we've seen. particularly since the new polar moment. i guess you could argue that there is no real difference as just the way it's being framed right now. but, you know, it does kind of harking back to great power politics, which critics of the bike administration is a wears. all the real is and we need more real is an american foreign policy. well, this is part of realism. it's not like it, but it is kind of a return to that george going. i agree entirely. and i think of the consequences will probably be noteworthy. i'm trump has always had a sudden hankering, full gray power politics. i think he's, he has looked a start as a model. this was the 19th century of imperialism, image great powers,

acquire a new territory, acquire new spheres of influence, that they regard subordinate powers as are required to follow the lead of the great powers. and essentially, this means that it's the national interest, prevail, well, the, and they will try that model and the, you know, it's been, it has been the dominant models since the world war 2. but particularly so since the end of the cold war, which is these, the system of global alliances, global alliance is driven by the, the logical dicks us. so suddenly we have this a little bit late cuz we're coldwell and bottle was we're going to fight this, the spread of communism and everybody, all the countries of the world have to be screwed up. i shoved into this some alliance irrespective of what the interest because they need to be in wages,

more games, communism since the end of the call. well, it's been about the values. it's been about the democracies versus the all storage area and uh, regimes. and what that means is that the countries that are only outside of government, or at least for instance, i mean it's, it's, it comes with it because this is a logical alliance, being led by the united states is a problem and then threats. and of course, it's a very real spread because it's in the name of this, these principles of freedom and democracy. united states laid alliance wages, sanctions wages, uh, when your actual actual was bombing color evolution's, terrorist actions, oh, in the name of the democracy, subtract is suddenly now going back to an old uh model. hey, we are a great bout. we have a real interest. we're going to pursue our interest, but the corolla, re of that is,

is that where we recognize all the great 1000 we recognize their interests. and we don't want to mess with that. but is that those, you know what, what matters do? i'll just grade pals. that's what matters is going to be the little it doesn't affect us. so i think this, it may be, it will end up in exactly the same part. but at the moment that he needs it very much, a different emphasis on the part of trump in the the, in the, in the, in the the nitty gritty isn't the details studied because it hits greenland? it's canada, it's the panama. and i mean, these are not enemies of states, okay. there's no audiological spin. there obviously is. george's pointed out here. so, i mean, if you look at countries like russia, china, india, because of their strength and relative strength of the world. so you can't, you can't lose the they're, they're kind of, you know, you missed out on that. okay. you didn't dismember russia for, for the, for looting. and so if you can't loot of the other great powers and his george rightly points out,

that means that you recognize them is great powers that's cut best progress. let's progress in my book. ok. but if you're, if you're not a great power and you're in the spirit, the american spirit of influence, well, like i said in a program last week, if you're not sitting at the table, that means you're on the menu to leak. i think you're right about that um item, but i'd add one thing as of the 4, which is that via thing about the united states is that even when it pretends to follow an ideological russian. all right. it still also is doing view politics all the time. of available to kind but i agree with george that some sort of difference is might be occurring something important. and like, you know, them, you have last about what happens to the smaller power spied uniform peters. if i understand you correctly, of that, at least the, recognizing that more or less eclipse, they also have a policy. and that in itself could have a stabilizing effect. right?

sure, if, for instance, the united states had recognized russia as a full great power of its own national security interest in 2021. maybe they would not have seen the escalation of new cream. all right, that's a very concrete thing that i think is 2, that would be a plus, but here is a problem i see, and i have would leave it at that for now, which is the, the issue with the united states for i think more than a 100 to us as being the way they define the sphere of influence. and that's a separate issue there. might that states as a state, and i think it's the only one on the planet. i'm sure it's the only one that defines the limit as it's fear of influence, right? so to get a system, the national break powers of national interest sort of respect each other, right? you get a month to pull up balance. you would have the united states would have to learn to think of its fee of influence as not to drop. that is one thing, right?

they would have to think, ok, china has some asians fields in phones. russia has been your pre income asians feel, for instance, somewhere. and we have, well, it would be once again, the monroe doctrine, right. they have lived in america. maybe they have going on to buy, not the don't think it's all business. what happens in australia, for example, right? and that would have to happen. so united states would have to turn itself into a region or hedge and on. then not that right now. the united states is trying to be a little bit of heads him on and is it combines that with a new ult massage or even more to a citizen of national interest in the info pay bed right there. yeah. yeah. and it's, it's early days here. i mean, i mean this whole thing about greenland and canada in panama, me a can also just be a bread and circus as ploy for the, for the mag a base. okay, so you and i have talked to a great lengthening geo politics is in play when it comes to

a manual extraction. that's very much part of has been today's world here. but, you know, george, i mean, what we've been hearing about the rules base order and all those countries, particularly when we think about ukraine, all those countries that sent their military equipment to ukraine. okay, and now you've heard of united says, but i think we're going to, you know, thank you very much where we're going to take greenland. i mean, all these countries they believed in the rules based order as the american sphere of influence allowed this left to go there. american allies that are left to naked in defense. listen mean you, they, there's nothing they can do about it. and we'll talk about the fact was leadership in europe in the 2nd half of the program. but i mean, if the american center allies have not disarmed themselves in front of rusher china, but they've disarmed themselves in front of the united states. so let's, let's try it, i mean, and what, what has happened here is that these allies have indeed abjectly follow. this a, in the united states orders and hope a see you this a,

a wall that had nothing to do with their own national interest. and of course, they should always have known that at some point the united states is going to raise all kinds of issues about it and relating to their own national interest. and so what, what the united states has done now is thing, well, you know, we have these global alliances. well, that's very nice. but what do we get out of these a global alliances? we are, you know, people are impoverished. we don't live as well as the europeans, and why do we live as well as the europeans? what? because we spend so much money on the system of alliances. and so we can say, well, you know, you're going to have to spend a lot more money on your own, this alliance, and you simply, you're going to have to stop doing all of these things that are harming our industry. is, you know, we just, the george, this is, this is not a request. so it's, it's, it's not a request. so they don't, they,

they are going to denmark and saying, well, you know, we'd, we'd like greenland and not them. i would say we have a, you know, basically you can have it as an america sable we wanted. so we're going to have it because we, we run this alliance. and, you know, we think that this is vital to our national interest of these vital to us security . and therefore, what's fighting to our security is you of admitted yourselves is vital to your secure, just so we just got to take and, and the much of an argument that they can put up against the attorney does. this is the argument that we're all equals as democracy, but when it comes to geo political interest or our interest will always trump yours because we work you. okay. i mean, you use the thing you already mentioned. you know, you can have this a lot of your logical and driven alliance, and then you come to your politics. the united states will probably want both at the same time, which of course, the shore changing your allies because, but i, but i thought we were all these goals that mr. lines. well no,

it's not true with never has been true. take. no, i mean one of my you could look at it is that what do you opinions have done, right? especially after the cold war ended off to the late 19 eighties, and that's a long time they've had a long time to think about this. and they didn't. the big mistake, one big miss they do piece of meat is they have disregard the fundamental buffer. you list jewel politics, which is don't think so much about other states intentions or what they say about the intentions. think about the capabilities and it is they have looked at the u. s. in terms of capabilities and at vasa in terms of capabilities. the motive understood immediately that the biggest threat is obviously the us and cost um, much more dependent on it in every way. and it has over 50 large military. right. and what can we do? we just give a, an example of those capabilities,

the destruction of the north stream pipeline. a brilliant stance, the capability of conducting all sorts of black ops is very much something that is move in the american optima, right? so if they are only extra to due diligence, right? instead of just listening to narratives, narrative narratives, and talking to talk before the scenes, the united states is inherent, the extremely dangerous state is made. now say o be on your side as long as you will pay us and do what we want. but what if that changes? it's one date and your politics view politics since the end of the cold war shows that they've never considered this problem and now they've caught out. but yeah, been, i mean, george with a country like denmark insights, but we've done everything. you said, you know, we join the european union, we join nato, we sent a couple of you halls full of 19 forties at vintage weapons to ukraine. we did

everything we could, but that's a good enough basic george. no, it's not a good enough that the precisely because the united states and then the class. well yeah, but, you know, we have really a vital national interest. and of, you know, you already accepted that you are a complete a subordinate to us and therefore, you know, you're going to have to do okay. well, we say on a note of subordination, i'm going to jump in here gentlemen, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion about some real new stay with our team. the same just don't have to shape house because after kids and engagement equals the trail, when so many find themselves will support. we choose to look for common ground. the,

the russian states never is as tight as i'm one of the most sense community. best ingles i'll send, send up the assistance must be the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on the russians per day and split the ortiz full back, keeping our video agency roughly all the band on youtube, the fitness center. for what question did you say a request, which is the

welcome back to the cost of barnes? were all things are considered on people about alright, ted eclipse, switch gears you. you wrote in a remarkable, in law in article, but i don't always like long ones, but i liked this one because it was a kept harping a way it what i believe. and this is one of these by one time in the article as mosque is demolishing western new leads. they, um, they brought it upon themselves. it's an excellent piece. i suggest all of our viewers take a look at it. it's of the r t website. i think what do they deserve it, and why is the learn must doing this to let me start the 1st question. vitals they deserve it because i don't know why exactly is doing it. i haven't guess. so why does it deserve it? i do know that been cause precisely what we've been talking about. the 1st of all the show. they have themselves immediate at themselves, didn't you?

did it themselves of power the new did themselves of leverage. and they have also, based in the way that has cost them all respect and fumbled reasons. if you look at the german case, we've talked about it before, but it is such a striking example. if somebody blows up your vital info starter and you just smite, you are done. that's no respect left for you. you look at britain and of course of what they call the special relationship, which is basically again, really the submission to the eval america once from then bit broadly, prosecuting julia massage for years and making basic things really to been the only good system in the public eye in the process or math, so to be participating in the gaza genocide. so you have all of these powers in europe. then it has been banking for american attention support and has accepted all sorts of american. i'll return as

a new mediation. and now the big american oligarchy, the biggest, and the would actually be also has not only the deal president trump, for sort of the unofficial vice president more. right. and he is starting to let them feed it. so i don't agree with everything must says not at all or right fact to me, but the underline frank, but he's just illustrating to them, but they've done to themselves. that is just the reality right now. why is he doing it? i don't know, but at times i think i haven't given them enough credit as it were for is own ideological drive. but i'm coming to stand up must actually has a fairly consistent and fairly important ideology to what he does, right. and it's, and that you want to do that. i don't see it at all. but as thank you x out of the number of convictions as it were. right. mistaken. this guy that convicts on spot.

that is. yeah. well, also, and there's always that element of self interest, which we always have to be very careful about. he didn't get rich, he didn't, he didn't have his path to his richard richard who have gone through state contracts in many cases. okay. i, you know, i think he's a genius, a great person of his time, but i have a lot of help to george and i think is absolutely right. if you have no rest self respect, why should you expect people to anyone do respect? you know that that's right, but the, the attack on mosque as a reach the levels of hysteria in your up and there you have to think that it is easy. ology, i mean, this is the 1st time in a long time in which a billionaire of the, you know, an influential now publisher doesn't subscribe to the kind of fashionable liberally just the global as the victim. you know, he's not a george soros,

he's not a bill gates, he's those guys to a very different um, the logical world view living. this is the, the trump in view of this is the or button view. and this goes absolutely outrage on, on the path of the people who being run the you. so this thinking of all sorts of ways of we'd have to do something about him, you know, and so you know, whether it's of my crown or whether it showed sort of, it's a who's off on the line or what she's sick now that you know, whoever is in charge of the european commission, we have to do something about him and then you only media, you know, right? the music long think pieces of us in the t poses to the freedom and democracy. but it was at 1st thing in the arguments against him was the oh my god, he is allowed, hate and hate speech and discrimination and anti semitism and racism to thrive on uh, on twitter or x. even though they never really presented any evidence of it was any,

even rise in all of these things. now some of the arguments has changed. so he's, he's using a twitter, x and song very nefarious way, which we don't know. he's switched to change the algorithms even though they have no idea what algorithm is. this is switched. it's in order to promote his own brand . he's up to promote his own twigs of where he only is done. he is allowed free speech. he has written them free speech this way. so that's what he, that he, you know, you said it was, i mean it's not the effect on these obviously there, there was some of the restrictions on speech this, but it's, it's a huge improvement on what all the time when twitter really was censoring, went to switch a really it was just input removing, you know, content that they just didn't agree with. so it's entirely a positive. he's agree, advanced the cause of free speech is getting attacked for it. and frankly, are serious. it is a hit the reaction, the hypocrisy. i mean,

politicians are fair game for criticism. ok, i don't understand the, um, bridge that is coming out of europe being these are very beta type people here. but i mean, we have it, you know, the term isn't used very often, but mean we have forced resume, change going on and gaza using genocide of the west is behind the dissolution of the syrian state. um, um the the my dawn of february 2014 forest museum changer. i'm telling him of meddling, western meddling all around the world. but when he won musk right. say oh he's, he's hurting my feelings. in an interview with a, with a office. this is hardy, in germany, everyone thinks the sky is falling. i mean, again, why would you respect people that have such a spin skin? and the only thing they can cutting to is an ideology explain their, their electrons are rejecting. left right and center at 8. 0, i think that's why the odds to hyper sensitive because their position but in the on

societies has become so weak, right? the, the way in which mosque has supported the of the party in germany assessing ex, simplicity of this phenomenon. the i see is fairly strong, right? it has since 1820 percent in the pods and the whole strategy of the establishment parties of such additional parties as to freeze. it would never be less frightened . jeremy usually who pitts coalitions and this thing never, never collision. if these guys and mosque is disturbing that strategy, and they're so afraid of him because he could perhaps push the off into a place where that doesn't work anymore. and why is that? so not automatically because of must. but because people, as you say, also committed the dissatisfied politics as usual. now personally, i would like to see bargain managed to profit from that. i'm not the day because i

my old like the but that isn't the issue here. that's the thing what you're saying . and, and, you know, a, your political opinions or your own and i respected, but given your position, we would have a little bit more competition or good. but i know that's the whole lot of these people just because i don't want to have competition. as of course, i have consistently argued and several pieces of freedom that ideas to prohibit the if they are completely misguided, you know, because that's not f of the solution. definitely not. so i agree, we just need much more competition and, but you see in your business attempt at capitalization and to send it to or you can call the extremist centers and want versus the liberal, essentially as a really right. and the consider everything meddling, that disturbs that and everything that they themselves to some but as or even among themselves, to disturb, we like to and so disturb outcomes, political outcomes, that's not modeling. that's ok. see georgia, c, romania, or c,

g. every bird to force us basically said, you know what, we did it in romania if you have to redo it in germany too. right. so they have absolutely no respect for the was themselves. they have no respect for the holes themselves, and then they have nothing to stand on fighting back against musk. so what if mosque is matt doing? so are you and you already corrupting the political system, visual concept menu probations, so stuffed. well, i mean, george, you know, you, you had the, the labor party meddling in the american election. i mean, they, the, you know, that he, we went, we talked about that in great length there, but that's okay. right? i mean, again, you know, they're like, good terrorist and bad terraces, good meddling. there's bad meddling. this is like law favor against trump. i don't understand what you're talking about. what do you mean a good terrorist or

a bad terrorists? don't you have this? they, i mean, it gets to the point where they just go into the realm of just the logic and they want to pay wise, any kind of conversation because we're more virtuous than you are. and that's why they have no case at all. after decades of a lead, a recruitment to really take over by the united states of europe. this is what you get the it is what you get. and of course this is what george sar austin, bill gays i've been doing for years. i mean, in terms of meddling, i mean, we know source engaged, they from newspapers, they found the old media outlets. they found things tags they found in g o's been pro to and must test twitter. ok, exactly, and that's it. that goes over there for years. and years in this web of, uh, you know, these are, these are operations and they have being used precisely full on, you know, the color revolutions union this a to read, mentioned, you know,

romania and hungry everywhere else went and no one ever said anything about that mosque, right, and that's what we have, and most consistently is upfront about it. i mean, he has a, you know, he has his views, he's very outspoken. so he doesn't know actually act somewhere in the background in a surreptitious. there's a no one really even knows. i mean, you always have to point out how pervasive george soros has influence is of the list all the different organizations that he has created and that he is bank roll them all the influence they have. and of course, the moment you do that outcomes the screen, you know, being on to submit it. that's a conspiracy theory. but it would last, at least you've gone to the conspiracy there, there is, it just explains these views. and then he moves on to another topic. i mean, it's like, you know, one minute it was built in by the h one, b visas, getting very agitated valdez. then he's moved on to the issue of the grooming games in the u. k. very accurate about that. now he's moved onto the font, the l a. fires. if somebody was just, you know, he has strong views,

uses his back into an advocate, which they really hate him for. i mean, there's a lot of policy differences we don't now obviously don't have time for that, but you need any, what they hate him for is that he's a free agent. and neo liberalism, no individual has that except for he loves musk for some reason, and the he's such an anomaly. and he came up through a system that suppressed opinions wanted a unit, a uniform belief, and in this man just goes on his own platform and says, what he thinks is one of the very few. sorry, we run out of time we, i want to take my guess in budapest and assemble and of course i want to thank of yours are watching us the larger you see you next time. remember, across the apples, the

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