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i'm joined by my guess, george samuel l. e. in budapest, he's a pod cast or the guy go which be found on youtube and locals and assemble. we have headaches that are real, a model excuse in story and, and political commentator by gentlemen cross that grows in effect, that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciate it. all right, let's kick this off with george george. i mean, considering all the things we've heard from the truck like incoming trump administration, particularly greenland, and that's kind of a rubric for a much more boisterous, a anomalous approach to foreign policy than we've seen. politically since the, you know, polar moment. i guess you could argue that there is no real differences this way. it's being framed right now. but you know, it, it does kind of harking back to great power politics, which critics of the bike administration to say, where's all the real is and we need more real is an american foreign policy. well, this is part of realism, me, me. 2 like it, but it is kind of a return to that george. i agree and style it,

and i think of the consequences will probably be um, noteworthy. um trump has always had a certain hankering for great power politics. i think he is. he has looked for as a model, as it was, the 19th century, imperialism, image great powers, acquire new territory, acquiring new spheres of influence, that they regard subordinate powers as you're required to follow the lead of the great powers. and essentially, this means that it's the national interest, prevail will, the will, it's relative model and the, you know, it's been, it has been the dominant models since the world war 2. but particularly so since the end of the cold war, which is these, the system of global alliances with global alliance is driven by the logical dick's

us. so suddenly we have this a little bit late cuz we're coldwell and bottle was we're going to fight this, the spread of communism and everybody, all the countries of the world have to be school shoved into this some alliance irrespective what it, what their interests are. because they need to be in waging this more games, communism since the end of the call. well, it's been about the values. it's been about the democracy's versus the all for a terry and regimes. and what that means is that the country is live off on the outside or permanently, for instance. i mean it's, it's, it comes with it because this is the logical alliance, being led by the united states is a problem and then threats. and of course, it's a very real spread because it's in the name of this, these principles of freedom and democracy. the united states lit a lions wages, sanctions, wages, when you are actual actual was bombing color evolutions,

terrorist actions all in the name of the democracy. so trump is certainly not going back to an older model. hey, we are a grape out. we have a real interest. we're going to pursue our interest. but the corolla ray of that is that when we recognize all the great 1000 we recognize their interest. and we don't want to mess with that, but is that those you know what, what baffles do all the great bows? that's what mattresses. i mean the, it doesn't the fixed cost. so i think this is maybe it will end up in exactly the same part, but uh at the moment that he needs it very much. a different emphasis on the part of trump in the, the, in the, in the, in the, the nitty gritty is in the details studies because it hits greenland, it's canada, it's the panama. and i mean these are not enemies of the united states. okay. there's no audiological spin, there obviously is. george's pointed out here. so, i mean, if, you know, you look at countries like russia, china, india because of their strength and relative strength of the world. so you can't,

you can't lose the they're, they're kind of, you know, you missed out on bad. okay. you didn't dismember russia for, for the uh, for looting. um, so if you can't loot of the other great powers and is george rightly points out, it means that you recognize them is great powers that's cut best progress. let's progress in my book. okay. but if you're, if you're not a great power and you're in the spirit, the american spirit of influence, well, like i said in a program last week, if you're not sitting at the table, that means you're on the menu, the leak. i think you're right about that. i'd, i'd add one thing as board which is that the weird thing about the united states is that even when it pretends to follow the ideological russian. all right. it's still also is doing view politics all the time of available to kind, but i agree with george that some sort of difference is,

might be occurring something important. like you know, that you have lost about what happens to the small atalla spied your point. peter's, if i understand you correctly, of that at least the, recognizing that more or less eclipse the other way policy and that in it says, could have a stabilizing effect. right? sure, if, for instance, the united states has recognized russia as a full great power of its own national security interest in 2021. maybe they would not have seen the escalation of new crane more. right? that's a very concrete thing that i think this to that would be a plus, but here is a problem. i see, and i would leave it at that for now, which is the, the issue is united states for i think more than a 100 to us as being the way they define the sphere of influence. and that's a separate issue. there might that states as a state, and i think it's the only one on the planet. i'm sure it's the only one that defines the climate as it's fear of influence, right?

so to get a system, the national break powers of national interest sort of respect each other, right? you get a month to pull up balance, you would have the united states would have to learn to think of its feel of influence as not to drop. that is one thing, right? they would have to think, ok, china has some asians fields in phones. russia has been your pre income asians feel, for instance, somewhere. and we have, well, it would be once again, the monroe doctrine, right. they have lived in america, maybe they have going on to buy or not. we don't think it's all business. what happens in australia, for example, right. and that would have to happen. so united states would have to turn itself into a region that has them on them, not that right now, the united states is trying to be a little bit of heads and on. and if that combines that, there's a new hope massage, or even more router. so there's no national interest in the info pay bed, right?

there's no way to edit. it's early days here. i mean, i mean this whole thing about greenland and, and canada in panama. me a can also just be a bread and circus as employee for the, for the mag and base. okay. um, so you and i have talked to a craig lengthening. um geo politics is in play when it comes to a manual extraction. that's very much part of is in today's world here. but, you know, in george, i mean, what we've been hearing about the rules base order and all those countries, particularly when we think about ukraine, all those countries that sent their military equipment to ukraine. okay. and now you've helped me and had it says, but i think we're good at, you know, thank you very much where we're going to take greenland. i mean, all these countries they believed in the rules based order as the american sphere of influence allowed this left to go there. american allies that are left to make it in defense listening. you, they, there's nothing they can do about it. and we'll talk about the fact was leadership of europe in the 2nd half of the program. but i mean, if the american center allies have not disarmed themselves in front of brush or

a china, but they've disarmed themselves in front of the united states. so let's, let's try it. i mean, and what, what has happened here is that these allies have indeed abjectly follow this a, in the united states orders and help us, you, this a, a war, but had nothing to do with their own national interest. and of course, they should always have known that at some point the united states is going to raise all kinds of issues about it and relating to their own national interest. and so what the, what the united states has done now is thing, well, you know, we have these global alliances. well, that's very nice. but what do we get out of these a global alliances? we are, you know, people are in coverage. we don't live as well as the europeans, and why do we live as well as the europeans? what? because we spend so much money on the system of alliances. and so we go say, well, you know, you're going to have to spend a lot more money on your own,

this alliance, and you're still in place. you're going to have to stop doing all these things that are harming our industry. is, you know, with just the george this is, this is not a request this, the, it's, it's not a request. so they don't, they, they are going to denmark and saying, well, you know, we'd, we'd like greenland and not them. i would say we have a, you know, basically you can have it as an american sable we wanted. so we're going to have it because we, we run this alliance. and, you know, we think that this is vital to all national interest on the is vital to our security. and therefore, what's why it's into our security as you of admitted yourselves, is vital to your secure, just so we just got to take and, and, and i mean, and that's not even that much of an argument that they can put up against the authority. does this is the argument that we're all equals as democracy, but when it comes to geo political interest or our interest will always trump yours because we work you. okay. i mean, you, they think you already mentioned, you know,

you can have this ideological and driven alliance and then you come to your politics. the united states will probably want both at the same time, which of course the short changing your allies because but i but i thought we were all these goals and mr. lions. well no, it's not true. it never has been true take, you know, i mean one other way you could look at it is that what do you opinions have done, right? especially after the cold war ended off to the late 19 eighties. and that's a long time, they've had a long time to think about this and they didn't the big mistake. one big mistake you pains have made. if they have disregard the fundamental buffalo, you list your politics, which is, don't think so much about other states intentions or what they say about the intentions. think about the cap of abilities. and if they had looked at the u. s. in terms of capabilities and at vasa, in terms of capabilities,

the motive understood immediately that the biggest threat is obviously the us because i'm much more dependent on it in every way and it has over 50 large military, right. entity. what do we do? we just give a, an example of those capabilities, the destruction of the north stream pipeline. a brilliant stance, the capability of conducting all sorts of black ops is reading much something that is move in the american optima. right? so if they have only extra to due diligence, right? instead of just listening to narratives, narratives, narratives, and talking to talk before the scenes, the united states is been, haven't be and extremely dangerous state is may now say, oh, be on your side as long as you pay us and do what we want. but what if that changes it's wrong date and you politics view politics since the end of the cold war shows that they've never considered this problem and now they've caught out, but yeah,

been, i mean, george with a country like denmark insights, but we've done everything you said, you know, we join the european union, we join nato, we sent a couple of you halls full of 19 forties, vintage weapons to ukraine. we did everything we could, but that's a good enough basic george. no, it's not good enough. and that is precisely because the united states and then the claps. well yeah, but you know, we have really a vital national interest. and you know, you already accepted that you are complete a subordinate to us and therefore you are, you're gonna have to do, okay, well, we say i'm, if i'm a note of subordination. i'm going to jump in here gentlemen, we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion about some real new stay with our team. the same just don't have to shape

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all things are considered on peter a little bell. alright, teddy eclipse. switch gears you, you wrote in a remarkable inlaw of that article, but i don't always like long ones, but i like this one because it was a kept harping a way what i believe. and this is one of the things by one time in the article as mosque is demolishing western leads. they, they brought it upon themselves. it's a excellent piece. i suggest all of our viewers take a look at it. it's of the r t website. i think why do they deserve it? and why is the line must doing this to let me start the 1st question vitals they deserve it because i don't know why exactly is doing it. i haven't guess. so why does it deserve it? i don't know that been cause precisely what we've been talking about. the 1st of the show. they have themselves immediate at themselves, didn't you do that themselves of power, the new to themselves of leverage. and they have also be asked in the way that has

cost them all respect and fumbled reasons. if you look at the german case, we've talked about it before, but it is such a striking example. if somebody blows up, you'll fight to info start to and you just smite you out, and that's no respect left for you. you could look at britain and of course of what they call the special relationship, which is basically again, relentless submission to what ever america was from them. bid, broadly prosecuting julia massage for years and making basic things really tube in their own needed system in the public eye in the process or math. so to be participating in the gaza genocide. so you have all of these powers in europe, then it has been bang for american attention support and has accepted all sorts of american arbitrary and human gauge. and now have a big american oligarchy, the biggest and the would actually was. so has model is a deal president trump,

we sort of the unofficial vice president and more. right. and he is starting to let them feel good. so i don't agree with everything must fist not at all or right. fact to me, but the on the line, frank, but he's just illustrating to them, but they've done to themselves. that is just the reality right now. why is he doing it? i don't know, but at times i think i haven't given them enough credit as it were for is own ideological drive. but i'm coming to stand up must actually has a fairly consistent and fairly important ideology to what he does. right. and it's and that you all to do that i don't see it at all, but i think he acts out of the number of convictions as it were a right mistake. this guy that completes on spot. that is. yeah, well also,

and there's always that element of self interest, which we always have to be very careful about. he didn't get rich, he didn't, he didn't have his path to his richard richard who have gone through state contracts in many cases. okay. i, you know, i think he's a genius, a great person of his time, but i have a lot of help to george and i think is absolutely right. if you have no read self respect, why should you expect people the, anyone to respect, you know that that's right. but the, the attack on mosque as a reach the levels of hysteria in your up and there you have to think that it is easy. ology, i mean, this is the 1st time in a long time, in which a, a billionaire of the, you know, an influential now publisher doesn't subscribe to the kind of fashionable, liberal elite is the global as the victim. you know, he's not a george soros, he's not a bill gates, he's those guy still very different. um,

a logical world view of and this is the, the trump in view. this is the or button view and this goes absolutely outrage on, on the path of the people who are being run the you. so this thinking of all sorts of ways of we have to do something about him, you know, and so you know, whether it's of my crown or whether it shows or that it's a who's off on the line or what she's sick now. but you know, whoever is in charge of the european commission, we have to do something about him. and then you only media, you know, right? the music long think pieces of us right the poses to the freedom and democracy. but it was at 1st thing in the arguments against him was the oh my god, he is allowed, hate and hate speech and discrimination and anti semitism and racism to thrive on uh, on twitter or x. even though they never really presented any evidence that there was any, arise in all of these things. now some of the arguments has changed. so he's,

he's using a twitter access on very nefarious way, which we don't know. he's switched to change the algorithms even though they have no idea what algorithm is this. so if you switched it in order to promote his own brand, he's up to promote his own twigs. what a bully is done. he's allowed free speech. he has written them free speech this way . so that's what he, that he, you know, he said it was, i mean it's not the effect on these obviously, there, there was some of the restrictions on speech there. but it's, it's a huge improvement on what all the time when twits a really was censoring what to do with a really was just input removing, you know, content that they just didn't agree with. so it's entirely a positive. he's likely advanced the cause of free speech and is getting attacked for it and frankly, are serious. i hit the reaction, the hypocrisy. i mean politicians are fair game for criticism. okay. i don't

understand the um, bridge that is coming out of europe being these are very beta type people here. but i mean, we have it, you know, the term is and used very often. but mean we have forced resume change going on and gaza using genocide. the west is behind the dissolution of the syrian state. um, um the, the my dawn of february 2014 force museum change or i'm telling him of meddling western meddling all around the world. but when he won musk right, say, oh he's, he's hurting my feelings. in an interview with a, with a up visions, hardy in germany. everyone thinks the sky is falling. i mean, again, why would you respect people that have such a thin skin? and the only thing they can cling to is an ideology, explain their, their electorates, or rejecting left, right and center study. i think that's why the odds to hyper sensitive because their position but in the on societies has become so weak, right?

the, the way in which mosque has supported the of the party in germany assessing ex employee off this phenomenon. the i see is fairly strong, right? it has since 1820 percent in the pods. and the whole strategy of the establishment party substance additional part is, is to freeze it out. never the less frightened jeremy usually you pick the car, listen to end this thing. never, never collision. if these guys and mosque is disturbing that strategy, and they're so afraid of him because he could perhaps push the off into a place where that doesn't work anymore. and why is that? so not item because of must. but because people as use, they also committed the dissatisfied politics as usual. now personally, i would like to see bargain managed to profit from that. i'm not the favorite cost i'm i would like to, but that isn't the issue here. that's the what you're saying and, and you know,

your political opinions are your own and i respected. but given your position, we would have a little bit more competition. all right, good. that no, that's the whole lot of these people just because i don't want to have competition . as of course, i have consistently argued and several pieces of freedom that ideas to prohibit the complete english guided, you know, because that's not ever the solution that some of the not. so i agree, we just need much more competition and, but you see in europe is attempt at capitalization and to send it to or you can call extremely centers more versus the liberal, essential as a really bright and vague. consider everything meddling the steps of that and everything that they themselves to somewhere else or even among themselves, to disrupt electronics or disturb outcomes, political outcomes. that's not maddening, that's okay. so you georgia, see romania or c g. everybody to force us basically said, you know what?

we did it and romania if you have to redo it in germany too. right? so they have absolutely no respect for the rules themselves. they have no respect for the laws themselves and then they have nothing to stand on fighting back against musk. so what if mosque is mad doing? so are you and you already corrupting the political system, visual constant menu relations. so stuffed? well, i mean, george, you know, you've, you had the, the labor party meddling in the american election. i mean, they, you know, that you, we went, we talked about that in great length there, but that's okay. right? i mean, again, you know, they're like, good terrorist and bad terraces, good meddling. there's bad meddling. this is like law favor against trump. i don't understand what you're talking about. what do you mean a good terrorist or a bad terrorist? don't you have this? they, i mean, it gets to the point where they just go into the realm of just the logic and they

want to pay wise, any kind of conversation because we're more virtuous than you are. and that's why they have no case at all. after decades of a lead, a recruitment to really take over by the united states of europe. this is what you get. yeah, it is what you get. and of course this is what george sar austin, bill gays have been doing for years. i mean, in terms of meddling, i mean, we know sourcing gates, they from newspapers, they found the own media outlets. they found thing tags they found in g o's been pro to and must test twitter. ok exactly, and that's it. that goes over there for years. and years in this web of, uh, you know, these are, these are opperation and they have been use precisely full or, you know, the color revolutions union this a to read mentioned, you know, romania and hungry everywhere else went and no one ever said anything about the

mosque, right, and that's what we have, and most of them play is upfront about it. i mean, he has a, you know, he has his views, he's very outspoken. so he doesn't know actually act somewhere in the background in a surreptitious. there's a no one really even knows. i mean, you also have to point out how to phase of george soros has influenced age of the list, all the different organizations that he has created and that he is bank holding all the influence they have. and of course, the moment you do that outcomes to scream, you know, being on to submit a that's a conspiracy theory. but with mosque at least you've gone to got them smears if they're there he is. he just expresses these views and then he moves on to another topic. i mean, it's like, you know, one minute he was talking by the h one b visas, getting very agitated about that, that he's moved on to the issue of the grooming games in the u. k, very accurate about that. now he's moved onto the font, the l a. files you somebody was just, you know, he has strong views, uses it back into an advocate which they really hate him for. i mean, there's

a lot of policy differences we go now. obviously don't have time for that. but to the penny, what they hate him for is that he's a free agent. and neo liberalism, no individual has that except for he loves musk for some reason. in the he's such an anomaly and he came up through a system that suppressed opinions wanted a unit, a uniform belief, and in this man just goes on his own platform and says, what he thinks is one of the very few. sorry, we have run out of time we, i want to take my guess in budapest and assemble and of course i want to thank of yours are watching us the larger you see you next time. remember across that both the, the

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