it's just the way it's being framed right now. but, you know, it does kind of harking back to great power politics, which critics of the bike administration to say, where's all the real is and we need more realism in american foreign policy. well, this is part of realism. it's not like it, but it is kind of a return to that george. i agree and style it, and i think of the consequences will probably be um, noteworthy. i'm a trump has always had a sudden hankering for great power politics. i think he's, he has looked for as a model as it was, the 19th century, imperialism, image great powers, acquire new territory, acquiring new spheres of influence, that they regard a subordinate powers. as you're required to follow the lead of the great powers, and essentially this means that it's the national interest prevail?

well, the, we will try that model and the, you know, it's been, it has been the dominant models since the world war 2, but particularly, so since the end of the cold war, which is these, the system of global alliances and global alliance is driven by the logical dig fast. so suddenly we have this a little bit late with coldwell and bottle was we're going to fight this, the spread of communism and everybody, all the countries of the world have to be school shoved into this alliance irrespective what it, what their interest. because they need to be in waging this more gains, communism since the end of the call. well, it's been about the values. it's been about the democracies versus the old storage area regimes. and what that means is that the country is live off on the outside of permanently for instance. i mean it's, it's, it comes with it because this is the law. i think the lions being led by the united

states is a permanent thread. and of course, it's a very real spread because it's in the name of this, these principles of freedom and democracy. the height of the sites lit a lion's wages. sanctions wages uh, when your actual actual was bombing color evolution's, terrorist actions all in the name of the democracy. subtract is certainly not going back to an old uh model. hey, we are a grape out. we have a real interest. we're going to pursue our interest. but the girl already of that is that when we recognize all the great 1000 we recognize their interest and we don't want to mess with that. but with that those, you know what, what matters do all the great bows. that's what mattresses that me the little it doesn't the fixed cost. so i think this is maybe it will end up in exactly the same part. but uh at the moment that'd be the, it's a very much a different emphasis on the part of trump, in the, the, in the, in the, in the,

the nitty gritty isn't the details studies because it hits greenland, it's canada, it's the panama. and i mean, these are not enemies of the united states, okay. there's no audiological spin. there obviously is. george's pointed out here. so, i mean, if, you know, you look at countries like russia, china, india, because of their strengths and relative strength of the world says, you can't, you can't lose the they're, they're kind of, you know, you missed out on that. okay. you didn't dismember russia for, for the, for looting. and so if you can't loot of the other great powers and is george rightly points, that means that you recognize them is great powers that's cut best progress. let's progress in my book. okay. but if you're, if you're not a great power and you're in the spirit, the american spirit of influence, well, like i said in a program last week, if you're not sitting at the table, that means you're on the menu 30. i think you're right about that. i'd,

i'd add one thing as it for, which is that the thing about the united states is that even when it pretends to follow an ideological russian, all right. it still also is doing view politics all the time of available to kind. but i agree with george that some sort of difference is, might be occurring something important. and like, you know, that you have last about what happens to the smaller power spiking of warranty does . if i understand you correctly, of that, at least the, recognizing that more or less eclipse, they also have a policy and that, and it says, could have a stabilizing effect. right? sure, if, for instance, the united states had recognized russia as a full great power of its own national security interest in 2021. maybe we would not have seen the escalation of new cream. all right, that's a very concrete thing that i think this to, that would be a plus, but here is a problem i see, and i have would leave it at that for now, which is the,

the issue with the united states for i think more than a 100 us as being the way they define the sphere of influence. and that's a separate issue. there. might that states as a state, and i think it's the only one on the planet. i'm sure it's the only one that defines the climate as it's fear of influence, right? so to get a system, the national break powers of national interest sort of respect each other, right? you get a month to pull up balance. you would have the united states would have to learn to think of its feel of influence as not to drop. that is one thing, right? they would have to think, ok, china has some asians fields in phones. russia has been your p income asians feel, for instance, somewhere. and we have, well, it would be once again, the monroe doctrine, right. they have lived in america. maybe they have going on to buy, not the don't think that's all business. what happens in australia, for example,

right? and that would have to happen. so united states would have to turn itself into a regional hedge and on them, not that right now. the united states is trying to be a little bit of heads them on. and is it combines that with a new, open assertion, even more to a citizen of national interest. is the info pay bed right there. yeah. yeah. and it's, it's early days tier. i mean, yeah, i mean this whole thing about greenland and canada in panama, me a can also just be a bread and circus as a ploy for the for the mag a base. okay, so you and i have talked to a great lengthening geo politics is in play when it comes to a manual extraction. that's very much part of has been today's world here. but, you know, in george, i mean, what we've been hearing about the rules base order and all those countries, particularly when we think about ukraine, all those countries that sent their military equipment to ukraine. okay. and now you've heard of united says, but i think we're going to, you know, thank you very much where we're going to take greenland. i mean,

all these countries they believed in the rules based order as the american sphere of influence allowed this left to go there. american allies that are left to naked in defense listening. you, they, there's nothing they can do about it. and we'll talk about the fact was leadership in europe in the 2nd half of the program. but i mean, in the american center allies have not disarmed themselves in front of rusher china, but they've disarmed themselves in front of the united states. so that's, that's right, i mean, and what, what has happened here is that these allies have indeed abjectly follow. this a, in the united states orders and hope to see you this a, a wall that had nothing to do with their own national interest. and of course, they should always have known that at some point the united states is going to raise all kinds of issues about it and relating to their own national interest. and so what the, what the united states has done now, it's saying, well, you know, we have these global alliances. well,

that's very nice. but what do we get out of these a global alliances? we are, you know, people are impoverished. we don't live as well as the europeans, and why do we live as well as the europeans? why? because we spend so much money on the system of alliances. and so we can say, well, you know, you're going to have to spend a lot more money on your own, this alliance, and you're still in place. you're going to have to stop doing all of these things that are harming our industry. is, you know, we just, the george, this is, this is not a request business or if it's, it's not a request. so they don't the, they are going to denmark and saying, well, you know, we'd, we'd like greenland and not them. i would say we have a, you know, basically you can have it as an america sable we wanted. so we're going to have it because we, we run this alliance. and, you know, we think that this is vital to our national interest on the is vital to our security. and therefore, what's vital to our security is,

you of admitted yourselves is vital to your secure, just so we just got to take and, and, i mean, and that's not even a how much of an argument that they can put up against the authority. does it, this is the argument that we're all equals as democracy, but when it comes to your political interest or our interest will always trump yours because we work you. okay. i mean, you, they think you already mentioned, you know, you can have this a ideological driven alliance and then you come to your politics. the united states will probably want both at the same time, which of course, the shore changing your allies because, but i, but i thought we were all these holes in this line. well, no, it's not true. it never has been true take, you know, i mean one of my you could look at it is that what do you opinions have done, right? especially after the cold war ended off to the late 19 eighties, and that's a long time they've had a long time to think about this and they didn't. the big mistake. one big miss. thank you. peanuts have made is they have disregarded the fundamental mo,

from you list jill politics, which is, don't think so much about other states intentions or what they say about the intentions. think about the cap of abilities. and if they had looked at the u. s. in terms of capabilities and at vasa, in terms of capabilities, the motive understood immediately that the biggest threat is obviously the us and cost. i'm much more dependent on it in every way and it has over 50 large military . right. and what do we do? we just give a, an example of those capabilities the destruction of the north stream pipeline. a brilliant systems, the capability of conducting all sorts of black ops is very much something that is move in the american optima. right? so if they are only extra to due diligence, right? instead of just listening to narratives, narratives, narratives, and talking to talk before the scenes, the united states is in,

haven't be mixed with dangerous state is made. now say o be on your side as long as you will pay us into what we want. but what if that changes is wrong date and your politics view politics since the end of the cold war shows that they've never considered this problem and now they've caught out, but yeah, been, i mean, george with a country like denmark insights, but we've done everything you said, you know, we join the european union, we join nato, we sent a couple of you halls full of 19 forties, vintage weapons to ukraine. we did everything we could, but that's a good enough. this a george? no, it's not a good enough that the precisely because the united states and then the crabs. well, yeah, but you know, we have really a vital national interest and of, you know, you already accepted that you are a complete a subordinate to us and therefore, you know, you're going to have to do okay. well, we say on a note of subordination, i'm going to jump in here gentlemen, we're going to go to

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the show seemed wrong. just don't you have to shape house because the application and engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves will support. we choose to look so common ground the the welcome back to the cost of bull arms were all things are considered on peter little bill. alright, tell eclipse. switch gears you. you wrote in a remarkable n law in article, but i don't always like long ones, but i liked this one because it was a kept harping a way it what i believe. and this is one of these by one time in the article as

musk is demolishing western new leads. they, um, they brought it upon themselves. it's an excellent piece. i suggest all of our viewers take a look at and it's of the r t website. i think what do they deserve it, and why is the learn must doing this to let me start the 1st question. vitals they deserve it because i don't know why exactly is doing it. i haven't guess. so why does it deserve it? i do know that been cause precisely what we've been talking about. the 1st of all the show. they have themselves immediate at themselves, didn't you? did it themselves of power the new did themselves of leverage. and they have also being aged and nobody that has cost them or respect and fumbled reasons. if you look at the german case, we've talked about it before, but it is such a striking example. if somebody blows up your vital info start to and you just smite, you are done. that's fine, no respect left for you. you could look at britain and of course of what they call

the special relationship, which is basically again, relentless submission to the eval america was from them. be it broadly prosecuting julia massage for years and making basic thing really to them. the only good system in the public eye in the process or mess, simply participating in the cause of genocide. so you have all of these powers in europe, then it has been begging for american attention support and has accepted all sorts of american. i'll return those and you mediation, and now the big american oligarchy, the biggest and the would actually be, well also has not only the deal president, trump was sort of the unofficial vice president more. right. and he is starting to let them feed it. so i don't agree with the type of thing, my fest not at all are right. fact to me, but the underline frank, but he's just illustrating to them, but they've done to themselves. that is just the reality right now. why is he doing

that? i don't know, but at times i think i haven't given them enough credit as it were for is own ideological drive, split. i'm coming to stand up must actually has a fairly consistent and fairly important ideology to what he does. right. and it's natural to do that. i don't see it at all, but i think he acts out of the number of convictions as it were a right mistake. this guy that completes on spot. that is. yeah, well also, and there's always that element of self interest, which we always have to be very careful about. he didn't get rich, he didn't, he didn't lose his path to his richard. richard have gone through state contracts and many cases. okay. i, you know, i think he's a genius, a great person of his time, but he had a lot of help to george intake is absolutely right. if you have no read self

respect, why should you expect people to anyone to respect? you know that that's right. but the, the attack on mosque as a reach the levels of hysteria in your up. and there you have to think that it is easy. ology, i mean, this is the 1st time in a long time, in which a 1000000000, there are the, you know, an influential now publisher doesn't subscribe to the kind of fashionable, liberally just the global as the victim. you know, he's not a george soros, he's not a bill gates, he's those guy still very different. um the logical world view living. this is the, the trump in view. this is the or button view and this goes absolutely outrage on, on the path. all the people who are being run the you. so this thinking of all sorts of ways of we'd have to do something about him, you know, and so you know, whether it's of my crown or whether it shows or there's

a who's off on the line or what she's sick now that you know, whoever is in charge of the european commission, we have to do something about him. and then you only media, you know, right? the music long think pieces of us and the ti poses to the freedom and democracy. but it was at 1st thing in the arguments against him was the oh my god, he is allowed, hate and hate speech and discrimination and anti semitism of racism to thrive on uh, on twitter or x even though they never really presented any evidence of it was any, arise in all of these things. now some of the arguments has changed. so he's, he's using a twitter excess on very nefarious way, which we don't know. he's switched to change the algorithms even though they have no idea what algorithm is. this is switched, it's in order to promote his own brand, he's up to promote his own twigs of where he only is done. he is allowed free

speech. he has written them free speech this way. so that's what he, that he, you know, he said it was, i mean it's not the effect on these obviously there, there was some of the restrictions on speech there. but it's, it's a huge improvement on what all the time when twits a really was censoring what to do with a really was just simply removing, you know, content that they just didn't agree with. so it's entirely a positive. he's agreed to advance the cause of free speech and he's getting attacked for it, and franklin are serious. he's a hit the reaction, the hit hypocrisy. i mean politicians are fair game for criticism. ok, i don't understand the um, bridge that is coming out of europe being these are very beta type people here. but i mean, we have it, you know, the term isn't used very often, but mean we have forced resume, change going on and gaza using genocide of the west is behind the dissolution of the syrian state. um, um the,

the my dawn of february 2014 force museum changer. i'm telling you my meddling western meddling all around the world. but when he won musk right. say, oh he's, he's hurting my feelings. in an interview with a with a up is this is hardy, in germany, everyone thinks the sky is falling. i mean, again, why would you respect people that have such a thin skin? and the only thing they can cling to is an ideology explain their, their electrons are rejecting left, right and center at 8. 0, i think that's why the odds to hyper sensitive because their position but in the on societies has become so weak, right? the, the way in which mosque has supported the f d party in germany assessing extreme clarity of this phenomenon. yeah, i've 3 is fairly strong, right? it has since 1820 percent in the pods. and the whole strategy of the establishment party substance additional part is,

is to freeze it out. never the less frightened jeremy usually you pick correlations . and this thing never, never collision of these guys and mosque is disturbing that strategy. and they're so afraid of him because he could perhaps push the off into a place where that doesn't work anymore. and why is that? so not automatically because of must. but because people, as you say, also in committed the dissatisfied politics as usual. now personally, i would like to see bargain managed to profit from that not the day because some of the old let the but that isn't the issue. he and that's the, what you're saying and, and you know, your political opinions are your own and i respected. but given your position, we would have a little bit more competition. good. but i know that's the whole lot of these people just because i don't want to have competition. as of course, i have consistently argued and several pieces of freedom that ideas to prohibit the

if they are completely misguided, you know, because that's not f o the sooner definitely of the month. so i, i agree the just need much more competition and, but you see, and your business attempt at capitalization and to send it to, or you can call extremely centers and want, but the liberal essentially is really right. and they consider everything meddling, that disturbs that and everything that they themselves to somewhere else, or even among themselves, to disrupt electronics or disturb outcomes, political outcomes, that's not modeling, that's okay. so you georgia, see romania or c, g. every bird to force us basically said, you know what, we did it in romania if you have to redo it in germany too. right. so they have absolutely no respect for the rules themselves. they have no respect for the laws themselves and then they have nothing to stand on fighting back against musk. so what if mosque is matching? so are you and you already corrupting the political system, visual constant,

menu probations, so stuffed? well, i mean, george, you know, you, you had the, the labor party meddling in the american election. i mean, they, me, you know, that, you, we went, we talked about that in great length there, but that's okay, right? i mean, again, you know, they're like, good terrorist and bad terraces, good meddling. there's bad meddling. this is like last way we're against trump. i don't understand what you're talking about. what do you mean a good terrorist or a bad terrorist? don't you have this? they, i mean, it gets to the point where they just go into the realm of just the logic and they want to pay wise, any kind of conversation because we're more virtuous than you are. and that's why they have no case at all. after decades of a lead, a recruitment to really take over by the united states of europe. this is what you get the it is what you get. and of course this is what george sar austin,

bill gays i've been doing for years. i mean, in terms of meddling, i mean, we know source engaged. they from newspapers, they found on media outlets. they found things tags they found in g o's been probably to and must test twitter. ok exactly, and that's it. that goes over there for years and years has been this web of, uh, you know, these are, these are operations and they have been used precisely full on, you know, the color revolutions, unions, us the, to read. mentioned, you know, romania and hungry everywhere else. well, and no one ever said anything about the mosque, right? and that's what we have, and most consistently is upfront about it. i mean, he has a, you know, he has his views, he's very outspoken. so he doesn't know actually act somewhere in the background, give a surreptitious as a no one really even those i mean, you also have to point out how to phase of george soros has influence. is you have

the list all the different organizations that he has created and that he is bank roll them all the influence they have. and of course, the moment you do that outcomes to scream, you know, being on to somebody take, that's a conspiracy theory. but it is with mosque, at least you've gone to the conspiracy. there, there is, he just explains these views and then he moves on to another topic. i mean, it's like, you know, one minute he was talking about the h one, b visas, getting very agitated valdez. then he's moved on to the issue of the grooming games in the u. k. very accurate about that. now he's moved on to the fall of the l a. fires. if somebody was just, you know, he has strong views, uses this back into an advocate which they really hate him for. i mean, there's a lot of policy differences we go now. obviously don't have time for that, but to be any what they hate and force that he's a free agent. and neo liberalism, no individual has that except for he loves musk for some reason in the he's such an anomaly and he came up through a system that suppressed opinions wanted

a unit, a uniform belief, and in this man just goes on his own platform and says what he thinks is one of the very few. sorry we run out of time we, i want to take my guess in budapest and assemble and of course i want to thank of yours are watching us the larger you see you next time. remember, across the apples, the, [000:00:00;00]

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