also, i noticed with some of the not the the welcome across the board horns. were all things are considered on peter lavelle who would have thought greenwood would be close to the top of the trump foreign policy agenda. summer, calling it the new imperialism with a copy of this includes looting america's allies. also what is behind you on must war on europe to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess door to send me a wiley in budapest. he's a pod cast or, and the guy go which be found on youtube and locals and assemble. we have that a serial, a model excuse in story and, and political commentator by gentlemen cross that grows in effect, that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. all right, let's kick this off with george george. i mean,

considering all the things we've heard from the truck like incoming trump administration, particularly greenville and, and that's kind of a rubric for a much more boisterous, a anomalous approach to foreign policy that we've seen. particularly since the, you know, polar moment. i guess you could argue that there is no real differences this way. it's being framed right now. but you know, it, it does kind of harking back to great power politics, which critics of the bike administration to say, where's all the real is we need more real is an american foreign policy. well, this is part of realism. it's not like it, but it is kind of a return to that george. i agree and style it, and i think of the consequences will probably be um, noteworthy. i'm a trump has always had a sudden hankering for great power politics. i think he's, he has looked for as a model, as those 19th century of imperialism, image great powers,

acquire new territory, acquire a new spheres of influence, that they regard a subordinate powers as you're required to follow the lead of the great powers. and essentially, this means that it's the national interest, prevail will, the will, it's relative model and the, the, you know, it's been, it has been the dominant models since the world war 2. but particularly so since the end of the cold war, which is these, the system of global alliances with global alliance is driven by the logical dig fast. so suddenly we have this a little bit late with coldwell and bottle was we're going to fight this, the spread of communism and everybody, all the countries of the world have to be school. the shoved into this some alliance irrespective what it, what their interest because they need to be in waging this more games. communism

since the end of the call. well, it's been about the values. it's been about the democracy's versus the all for a terry and regimes. and what that means is that the country is live off on the outside of permanently, for instance. i mean it's, it's, it comes with it because this is the logical alliance. being a, being a lead by the united states is a problem. and then threats, and of course it's a very real spread because it's in the name of this, these principles of freedom and democracy. and the height of the sites lit a lions, wages, sanctions, wages, when you are actual actual was bombing color, evolution's, terrorist actions all in the name of the democracy. subtract is certainly not going back to an old uh model. hey, we are a grape out. we have a real interest, we're going to pursue our interest. but the corolla ray of that is that we recognize all the great, but as,

and we recognize their interests. and we don't want to mess with that. but is that those, you know what, what matters do? i would grade pals. that's what mattresses. that me the little it doesn't the fixed cost. so i think this, it may be, it will end up in exactly the same part. but at the moment that he needs it very much, a different emphasis on the part of trump in the the, in the, in the, in the the nitty gritty isn't the details studied because it hits greenland? it's canada, it's the panama. and i mean, these are not enemies of the united states, okay. there's no audiological spin. there obviously is. george's pointed out here. so, i mean, if you know, you look at countries like russia, china, india, because of their strengths and relative strength of the world. so you can't, you can't lose the they're, they're kind of, you know, you missed out on that. okay. you didn't dismember russia for, for the, for looting. and so if you can't loot of the other great powers and is george rightly points out, it means that you recognize them is great powers that's cut best progress. let's

progress in my book. okay. but if you're, if you're not a great power and you're in the sphere, the american sphere of influence. well, like i said in a program last week, if you're not sitting at the table, that means you're on the menu 30. that's i think you're right about that i'd, i'd add one thing as it for which is that via thing about the united states is that even when it pretends to follow the ideological russian. all right. it's still also is doing geo politics all the time of available to kind, but i agree with george to some sort of difference as might be occurring something important. and like, you know, then you have last about what happens to the smaller power slide. your point, peter's, if i understand you correctly, of that at least the, recognizing that more or less eclipse the library policy and that, and it says, could have a stabilizing effect. right?

sure, if, for instance, the united states has recognized russia as a full great power of its own national security interest in 2021. maybe they would not have seen the escalation of new crane law. right. but that's a very concrete thing that i think this to that would be a plus, but here is a problem i see, and i have would leave it at that for now, which is the, the issue with the united states for i think more than a 100 to us as being the way they define the sphere of influence. and that's a separate issue there might that states as a state, and i think it's the only one on the planet. i'm sure it's the only one that defines the climate as it's fear of influence, right? so to get a system, the national break powers of national interest sort of respect each other, right? you get a month to pull up balance. you would have the united states would have to learn to think of its feel of influence as not to drop. that is one thing, right?

they would have to think, ok, china has some asians fields in phones. russia has been your pre income asians feel, for instance, somewhere. and we have, well, it would be once again, the monroe doctrine, right. they have lived in america. maybe they have going on to buy or not. the don't think that's all business. what happens in australia, for example, right? and that would have to happen. so united states would have to turn and serve and to re engineer heads them on them up that right now the united states was trying to be a little bit of heads them on. and if they combines that with a new hope massage or even more to instead of some of national interest in the info pay bed right there. yeah. yeah. and it's, it's early days here. i mean, i mean this whole thing about greenland and canada in panama, me a can also just be a bread and circus as a ploy for the, for the mag and base. okay, so you and i have talked to and craig lengthening geo politics is in play when it

comes to a manual extraction. that's very much part of is in today's world here. but, you know, in george, i mean, what we've been hearing about the rules base order and all those countries, particularly when we think about ukraine, all those countries that sent their military equipment to ukraine. okay. and now you've helped me and had it says, but i think we're good at, you know, thank you very much, but we're going to take greenland. i mean, all these countries they believed in the rules based order. and the american sphere of influence allowed this left to go there. american allies that are left to make it in defense listening. you, they, there's nothing they can do about it. and we'll talk about the fact was leadership in europe in the 2nd half of the program. but i mean, in the americans that are, oh, i said not disarmed themselves in front of brush or a china, but they've disarmed themselves in front of the united states. oh that's, that's right, i mean, and what, what does happen here is that these allies have indeed abjectly follow this a in the united states orders and help us do this uh,

a wall that had nothing to do with their own national interest. and of course, they should always have known that at some point the united states is going to raise all kinds of issues about it and relating to their own national interest. and so what the, what the united states has done now, it's saying, well, you know, we have these global alliances. well, that's very nice. but what do we get out of these a global alliances? we are, you know, people are in coverage. we don't live as well as the europeans, and why do we live as well as the europeans? why? because we spend so much money on the system of alliances. and so we go say, well, you know, you're going to have to spend a lot more money on your own, this alliance, and you're still in place. you're going to have to stop doing all these things that are harming our industry. is, you know, we just, the george, this is, this is not a request business or if it's, it's not a request. so they don't the, they are going to denmark and saying, well, you know, we'd,

we'd like greenland and not them. i would say we have a, you know, basically you can have it as an america sable we wanted. so we're going to have it because we, we run this alliance. and, you know, we think that this is vital to our national interest on the is vital to us security . and therefore, what's fighting to our security is you of admitted yourselves is vital to your secure, just so we just got to take and, and, i mean, and that's not even that much of an argument that they can put up against the attorney does. this is the argument that we're all equals as democracy, but when it comes to geo political interest or our interest will always trump yours because we work you. okay. i mean, you, they think you already mentioned, you know, you can have this ideological driven alliance and then you come to your politics. the united states will probably want both at the same time, which of course, the short changing your allies because, but i, but i thought we were all these goals that mr. lines. well no, it's not true with never has been true take, you know,

i mean one other way you could look at it is that what do you opinions have done, right? especially after the cold war ended off to the late 19 eighties. and that's a long time, they've had a long time to think about this and they didn't. the big mistake. one big mistake you peanuts have made as they have disregarded the fundamental. but from your list, your politics, which is, don't think so much about other states intentions or what they say about the intentions. think about the cap of abilities. and if they had looked at the u. s. in terms of capabilities and at most, in terms of capabilities, the motive understood immediately that the biggest threat is obviously the us because i'm much more dependent on it in every way and it has over 50 large military. right. and so he went to a, to me just give a, an example of those capabilities,

the destruction of the north stream pipeline. a brilliant stance, the capability of conducting all sorts of black ops is reading much something that is move in the american optima. right? so if they had only extra to due diligence, right, instead of just listening to narratives, narratives, narratives, and talking to talk before the scenes, the united states is inherent, the extremely dangerous state is made. now say ovi on your side as long as you will pay us into what we want. but what if that changes? it's one date and your politics view politics since the end of the code was shows that they've never considered this problem and now they pull it out. but yeah, been, i mean, george with a country like denmark insights, but we've done everything. you said, you know, we join the european union, we join nato, we sent a couple of you halls full of 19 forties at vintage weapons to ukraine. we did everything we could, but that's a good enough basic george. no, it's not

a good enough that precisely because the united states can then declare ups. well, yeah, but you know, we have really a vital national interest and of the, you know, you already accepted that you are complete a subordinate to us. and therefore, you know, you're gonna have to do what we say on a note of subordination. i'm going to jump in here gentlemen, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion about some real new stay with our team. the russian states never as tight as i'm one of the most sense community. most all sense and up the in the 65 with the keys 195 and speed. the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union

the kremlin, she stayed on the rushes to day and split the r t support tech team and our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube, the student services for the question did you say the request, which is the last of all americans today are on forces joined our nato allies in air strikes against the serbian forces to guide village spread through us with them will be restored for we conclude, disregarding a flam face piece of the nation which is reinforced with the depleted uranium that has a special capacity to penetrate pro my new car safety point of view. there is no radiological or even and not even a significant consequences. the,

the symmetry seems endless. a real city of a dead where it's very easy to get lost. similar graveyards now exist in iraq and afghanistan. they may soon appear in ukraine with thousands of square kilometers of already being contaminated with deadly dust. for the next 4 and a half 1000000000 years, the welcome back to cost of barnes. were all things are considered on peter a little bell. alright, teddy eclipse. switch gears you, you wrote in a remarkable inlaw that article and i don't always like long ones, but i like this one because it was a kept harping a way it what i believe. and this is one of the things by one time in the article

is mosque is demolishing western leads. they, they brought it upon themselves. it's an excellent piece. i suggest all of our viewers take a look at it to the rti website. why do they deserve it? and why is the learn must doing this to let me start the 1st question vitals they deserve it because i don't know why exactly is doing it. i haven't guess. so why do they deserve it? i do know that been cause precisely what we've been talking about. the 1st of all the show. they have themselves immediate at themselves, didn't you did it themselves of power the new to themselves of leverage. and they have also be asked and nobody that has cost them or respect and fumbled reasons. if you look at the german case, we've talked about it before, but it is such a striking example. if somebody blows up your vital info start to and you just smite, you are done. that's a hit to no respect left for you. you could look at britain and of course of what

they call the special relationship, which is basically again, relentless submission to the eval america was from them, be it broadly prosecuting georgia massage for years and making basic thing really to them. the only that system in the public eye in the process or mess, simply participating in the cause of genocide. so you have all of these powers and you, then it has been doing for american attention support and has accepted all sorts of american. i'll return as a new media and now the big american ali guard, the biggest in the wood activities, also has not only the deal president trump was sort of the unofficial vice president and more. right. and he is starting to let them feel good. so i don't agree with everything must fest not at all or right fact to me, but the on the line, frank, but he's just illustrating to them,

but they've done to themselves. that is just the reality right now. why is he doing it? i don't know, but at times i think i haven't given them enough credit as it were for is own ideological drive, split. i'm coming to stand up must actually has a fairly consistent and fairly important ideology to what he does. right. and it's natural to do that. i don't see it at all, but i think he acts out of the number of convictions as a right mistake. this guy that converts on the spot, that is, yeah, well also, and there's always that element of self interest, which we always have to be very careful about. he didn't get rich. he didn't, he didn't have his path to his richard. richard have gone through state contracts in many cases. okay. i, you know, i think he's a genius, a great person of his time, but i have a lot of help to george and i think is absolutely right. if you have no read self

respect, why should you expect people to anyone do respect? you know that that's right. but the, the attack on mosque as a reach the levels of hysteria in your up and there you have to think that it is easy. ology, i mean, this is the 1st time in a long time in which a billionaire of the, you know, an influential now publisher doesn't subscribe to the kind of fashionable liberally just the global as the victim. you know, he's not a george soros, he's not a bill gates, he's those guy still very different. um, a logical world view of in the sense that the trump, in view of this is the or bottom view. and this goes absolutely outrage on, on the boss of the people who being run the u. s. o, this thinking of all sorts of ways of we'd have to do something about him, you know, and so, you know, whether it's of my crown or whether it showed sort of,

it's a who's off on the line or what she's sick now. but you know, whoever is in charge of the european commission, we have to do something about him. and then you only media, you know, right? the music long think pieces of us in the t poses to the freedom and democracy. but it was at 1st thing in the arguments against him was the oh my god, he is allowed um, hate and hate speech and discrimination and anti semitism of racism to thrive on uh on twitter or x. even though they never really presented any evidence of it. was any, arise in all of these things? now some of the arguments has changed. so he's, he's using a twitter x of song very nefarious way, which we don't know. he's switched to change the algorithms even though they have no idea what algorithm is. this is switched it in order to promote his own brand. he's up to promote his own twigs of what

a bully is done. he is allowed free speech. he has written them free speech this way. so that's what he, that he, you know, he said it was, i mean it's not the effect on these obviously, there, there was some of the restrictions on speech there. but it's, it's a huge improvement on what all the time when it was a really was censoring. what did switch, it really was just input removing, you know, content that they just didn't agree with. so it's entirely a positive. he's likely advanced the cause of free speech and is getting attacked for it and frankly, are serious. that is the hit, the reaction, the hypocrisy. i mean politicians are fair game for criticism. ok, i don't understand the um, bridge that is coming out of europe being these are very beta type people here. but i mean, we have it, you know, the term isn't used very often, but we, we have forced resume, change going on and gaza using genocide of the west is behind the dissolution of the syrian state. um, um the, the,

my dawn of february 2014 force museum change or i'm telling you my meddling western meddling all around the world. but when do you on most right? say oh he's, he's hurting my feelings. and in an interview with a, with a up, this is hardy, in germany, everyone thinks the sky is falling. i mean, again, why would you respect people that have such a thin skin? and the only thing they can cling to is an ideology explain their, their electrons are rejecting left, right and center at 8. 0, i think that's why the odds to hyper sensitive because their position but in the on societies has become so weak, right? the, the way in which mosque has supported the of the party in germany assessing ex employee off this phenomenon. the i've 3 is fairly strong variety that has since 1820 percent in the pods. and the whole strategy of the establishment party substance additional parties is to freeze. it would never be less frightened.

jeremy usually who pays correlations. and this thing never, never collision of these guys and mosque is disturbing that strategy. and they're so afraid of him because he could perhaps push the off into a place where that doesn't work anymore. and why is that? so not item because of must. but because people, as you say, also included the dissatisfied politics as usual. now personally, i would like to see bargain smashed to profit from that. i'm not the favorite cost of my old laptop, but that isn't the issue here. that's the what you're saying and, and you know, your political opinions are your own and i respected. but given your position, we would have a little bit more competition. good. that's the whole lot of these people just because i don't want to have competition. as of course, i have consistently argued and several pieces of freedom that ideas to prohibit the

if they are completely misguided, you know, because that's not f of the solution that some of the month. so i, i agree we just need much more competition and, but you see, and europe is attempt at capitalization and to send it to, or you can call extremist centers and want, but the liberal essentially is really right. and the consider everything meddling the steps that and everything that they themselves to some but as or even among themselves to disturb, we like to and so disturb outcomes, political outcomes. that's not maddening. that's ok. see georgia, c, romania, or see jerry but was just basically said, you know what, we did it and romania if you have to redo it in germany too. right. so they have absolutely no respect for the was themselves. they have no respect for the roles themselves and then they have nothing to stand on fighting back against musk so well they from us because mad doing so are you and you already corrupting the

political system. they feel constant menu probations, so stuffed. well, i mean, george, you know, you, you, you had the, the labor party meddling in the american election. i mean, they, you know, the, we went, we talked about that in great length there, but that's okay. right? i mean, again, you know, they're like, good terrorist and bad terraces, good meddling. there's bad meddling. this is like law favor against trump. i don't understand what you're talking about. what do you mean a good terrorist or a bad terrorist? don't you have this? i mean, it gets to the point where they just go into the realm of just the logic and they want to pay wise any kind of conversation because we're more virtuous than you are . and that's why they have no case at all. after decades of a lead, a recruitment to really take over by the united states of europe. this is what you get the it is what you get. and of course this is what george sar austin,

bill gays i've been doing for years. i mean, in terms of meddling, i mean, we know source engaged, they from newspapers, they found a own media outlets. they found things tags they found in g o's been probably to and must test twitter. ok exactly, and that's it. that goes over there for years. and years in this web of, uh, you know, these are, these are operations and they have been used precisely full on, you know, the color revolutions, unions, us to read mentioned, you know, romania and hungry everywhere else. well, and no one ever said anything about the mosque, right? and that's what we have. and most constructively is upfront about it. i mean, he has a, you know, he has these views, he's very outspoken. so he doesn't actually act somewhere in the background, give a surreptitious as a no one really even those i mean, you also have to point out how pervasive george soros has influence. is you have

the list all the different organizations that he has created and that he is bank roll them all the influence they have. and of course, the moment you do that outcomes to scream, you know, being on to submit a that's a conspiracy theory. but with mosque, at least you've gone to got conspiracy. there there is, he just explains these views and then he moves on to another topic. i mean, it's like, you know, one minute he was talking by the h one b visas, getting very agitated about that, that he's moved on to the issue of the grooming games in the u. k. very i to about that. now he's moved onto the font, the l a. fires. if somebody was just, you know, he has strong views, uses his back into an advocate which they really hate him for. i mean, there's a lot of policy differences. we don't have, obviously, don't have time for that. but you need any what they hate and force that he's a free agent. and then neo liberalism, no individual has that except for a lot of musk, for some reason in the he's such an anomaly and he came up through a system that suppressed opinions. wanted a unit, a uniform belief,

and in this man just goes on his own platform and says, what he thinks is one of the very few. sorry we have run out of time. we. i want to take my guess in budapest and assemble. and of course i want to thank of yours are watching us the largest the next time. remember across apples, the

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