corner we've been speaking exclusively with top rocking members of the governing african national congress party and south africa. the deputy president joins us next discussing palestine, the multi world order and the budgeting, global self. it's all coming away in just a moment, right here. we're not the welcome back to sunny south africa. we coming to once again from the city of gold in johannesburg. my name is tyler and i'm joined by the deputy president this time of the african national congress. the oldest liberation movement in our beautiful continent. mister pool must have do this. thank you so much for your time. thank you for joining us. thank you very much to to you and help you. yeah, uh, complements mississippi to president. so you just came off from the back of the amc is january 8 statement in cape town of the wasted in cape. and as i've mentioned,

this is the oldest operation we went to celebrate to a 113 years. this is no small feat the deputy president now talk to us about what do you think the future of the amc is and what are the t tests that came out from the january 8th statement of thank you very much to the 1st thing we decided on is that we need to a new the agency and you were to call the president spend time it in my explain in that a lot, but i'm just a week and some of our members needs to be trained that. so that's really the 1st task because if we want to be successful particularly didn't lead didn't task meant, then we must have in a n c that is alive that as well. so putting you in the agency is the 1st thing that we're going to do. the 2nd thing is local government

and local for work happens in local government and no way that you talk about energy. what uh, all this things happen at the local government level. so we need to fix local government, make sure that we have that. i to people, our consul us must be 5 people per pallet faint. we must deal with issues of ethics in local government. but also making sure that the says that people in those know kind of areas that that's why the president decided that i, most of the things i should do is step to president is to focus on issues. so service been divided and when you do with issues soft for the state of how do you have to deal with local government? so i spend a lot of my time going all over the county meeting with some executive, may us the premier, has

a and the consulate us so that we deal with issues that affect people on the clout did with issues of portfolios. as i said, what electricity accepts this, etc, we decided that we must focus on guess, speeding up the economy. close that you know that the, after close at 9 to our economy, it plunged like many in the world. and we have a problem of high i need to invent. so we, i'm now focusing on grows, but we need to to speed up. in fact, i couldn't only has 10 that around the bid we, we're now seeing plus a 2 signs and a positive close. but it's not enough that we're actually projecting this about 1.5 percent of coast. we need to, to see much because if we had to take the high level, so finding pregnant,

we need to create jobs defense thing. is that the issue of cry, eh, if you want to grow the economy, not has investor confidence. you must do the problem was try. and the way i said in the mining sector, you know, illegal activities that quit taking place. that was that people close to something as i must have had dealing with it. the expressions were dealing with that the old kind of mentality is been tech coat that the police has a key a plan to do with it. because it's important that we make sort of stable architect to, for investors to come. so dealing with kind is one of how i bought them probably takes that, of course, the other priorities. we want to keep philadelphia cans as one

build one nation. so we will lay type in the, you know, confusing emotional di, look at where we're bringing all participle good, uh, eh, civic organization foundations. and wanted to kind of part this in pelham in so that we, we can agree on the agenda of nation building that to create one nation went together. so that with those sort of to god that belongs to all the other probably to of course, is a forgotten sets that we need to work with that seemed african continent that particularly to implement the agenda that 2063 but also dealing with conflict. cut into the big f. thoughts on behalf of the president insights of done when dates conflict to to show that we can resolve that. but we

need to also technical challenges in mozambique the challenges in the d r c. and to ensure that those piece, inter continental cost is one to see development in the continent. we have to deal with this that was that, that taking place, the conflict that, that taking place. but also we, i'm looking at the, the home with speaking about the i c, j. it's been a year since the n c lived government filed a case of genocide against israel. how do you think the developments have been sold a day in terms of the reception from the international community? and when many countries are very perceptive, eh, you may be aware that the most 10 you states that have come on board to say, you know, that we want to be with you on this case, your absolute good. i have been fed people where i've tried to hit at the beginning

and they weigh upload big signed up for gulf. we haven't taken that to move. and we now see more and more people say you are like, we need to and this a general site when we, we are going to continue it. especially if it, even though there might be pressure for south africa to pull out from the u. s. as an ally to stop that, but you know, we're not pulling out, remember with our goal or the there was that i do meant that the, you know, maybe saw definitely call would be less talk to, didn't happen to me in but the u. s. is one of our biggest trading partners, but it doesn't mean will. i agree with them one ever to think and they know that the so on the issue of is vital colors time. we don't agree with them. we think they've genocide that must be stopped. as you may know, the i c c issue buttons over wrist for the is ready, prime minister benjamin netanyahu, former defense minister, you'll have kalonde,

and some come off eaters. do you think they is a reality of them actually being detained? do for me, see that actually taking place 1st to let me say that to this institutions should be respected. the when the i c. c. to say you have fun dressed. sounds good. i asked that they should be allowed to implement the decisions. i know that the in, in the account is people have assist uh, but we have sort of the guy will not stand on the way the window is this, the has to implement this decision. so we do hope that is what i will will comply, but do we know, you know, it's difficult. nobody want to know is really give themselves into the address that

the at. but it's, it's a decision of those who are part of this conventions. and the thing that, that those decisions must, must be respected. so if the pundents of israel had to come to south africa, you would comply with the y integral wrist. it didn't beat, he bet the motor company because there's no way we can protect and that we are part of the convention and we have a suspect. and because if we don't, if we're going to undermine the data room based on that conference, that a lot of relations in the business of the muscles that has spoken about the structure of the un security council saying it does not entirely represent all countries. and the taste, they are views in that regard. one reform, so you think can be in active there and to,

to q. what role do you think the african union can play while the present dis correct? eh, that the, the site didn't come. so this 2 beautiful, particularly with respect to the participation of africa. eh, we've, we've constituted the dubious part of the united nation as, as the continent. and, but if you look at that, the security council at the moment, i think we have maybe 30 the, the countries that then we have the data to the status of non payment and then bus. we went to the time and then men bus as much as the other. so we want to see that expanded to include more countries in the continent in the say to the concept. because when we deal with

issues of peace and security, we come to spec to tests, as according to natural until the day. and we must sit around the table eh, not outside so that the guy has to can over the presidency of the g 20. what do you think will be some of the biggest challenges for a in 2025, this particular block and, and how will these, how and enhance participation by these african countries read the do with these challenges that might be faced? was to let me say that the for us instead of in the we have very, we feel very, pretty religious. had this opportunity to lead to that the printer. at this moment. we are excited about it. and we wanted to wed not on the 4 side

of the car, but africa the we, we are pushing virus from that issue of sonya data to the with uh, the code please. and so we've agreed to that. let's make this cheap trade a g 20 of the according to not just stuck. so the fact that we will make sure that some of its programs and activities eh, eh, here pending in a pause of all of the convent, especially subject. but inside i think i would also say it, it should not be an activity that happens in jordan is back. ok. tell me that this activities must take place in the whole of sort of called the 9 provinces. whereas mid things of the ministers will fight and then solve the government now. so since i've been ex,

that's the old activities must be spread. and of course, the assignment of federal states will have pen didn't to hand the spec, eh, because for all of us citizens logistics and so by they bought the thing is funded natalie t. equality, sustainability. we want to, to use the g 20 as a platform to be able to full costs on the form of some of the amount to that try institutions. eh, that's, that's what we're going to do the month to that's valid institutions development band. and so need it by the time we tend over at this price again. so we, we must say that we have achieved something in the coordinate where do pen african initiatives that are organized by the african union stand, for example,

the payments and supplements system, the african continental free trade area, which the president president sold. i'm a pose, a spoke to on saturday at the january 8 statement. where do you think of the development is directed to and what do you think about the pay suspicion? he says so that africa has taken over the presidency of the t $20.00. well defend that we, we wanted to benefit the continent. we are going to bring on board the programs of the african continental free trade area. the to push for the agenda $10.00 to $6.00 to $3.00, to boot the africa we want. so a s suite. it does do twins, the content will be t didn't. what if all we do the programs that we have agreed on in the continent that i'm going to be

a part of what we do, the one as a huge amount interpretation. it made sure that the, you know, the economy development in the continent becomes a priority to i spoke about peace initiatives. and that must happen because if we want to develop the african continent, we do need to show that this piece of stability infrastructure that must be a priority to some of the thought of been companies already opened a to the parts of the continental focus on infrastructure development so, so the africa we want should not just be a slogan, must be something that is t in our priority pro groups the

so the african continental free trade area is going to be given that the probably to buy so definitely got s, we leave the key print, there's been a lot of talk around a bricks, car and see of course, present puts and also mentioned the emphasis to continue to develop those national currencies. but the is talk of cause of the dollar isaiah and move. and that has all the see land in the as of those and the waste puts it in america. the president elects. all they do is who's going to be assuming office and the white house has threatened breaks members for the so called the dollar as ation move when narrative, so to speak. what do you mean by, as well as i've had that set on yesterday, we need to engage him on the tariff hikes specific. now, while i'm told that he might come to the jeep and to submit,

so we're looking for an opportunity to engage with him. because what we are doing with the bus in, in, in the south that it's, it should not be a foot eh, to that all the. but this things are best discussed. so we're hoping that the, the president trump will come. and one of the things we will put on the table if this meta eh, it's important that the, the congress of the, of the files eh, must really be allowed to grow and even be able to stand on their own as much as they get the, what kind of going to you for years and years like on the west for our own development in this up the. so it's important that we engage with them. yes.

let's continue path, treat it with them. and then must understand that we want to develop our us that we want to have that freedom to develop. so what would engage with them? it's the rest at the talk. but for now, we come to this point because, you know, he has not to put it on the table and with us it's a comment that sound view it as a threat deputy president. and as a deputy president of an organization that has been appraised when you see a super powers or countries that have these economies and develop economies threatened africa with as you also have some members of the any see who we spoke to said is actually a mutual beneficial relationship between south africa and the united states. but when you hit the ritz as a liberation movement that has been oppressed,

why do you think that signals, not just for south africa, but globally, as well as i said, we will engage him at by the land. but we, we can make decisions based on this what i had to address. that's not how we must steve. we have priorities, we have plans, and we're going to implement that. we wouldn't engage the u. s. to the next 10. douglas grandson. what trade with them? we're going to do so a lot of our products go today, u. s. they need, then we need them to the so as in this approach, despite of for attending, it's not the right one the but we must not be poets. and that the finding a way not doing things that benefit one nation. and then they sions that to

work with us on the basis of products that we will engage them. and of course, if the implemented death science, we like to find other ways we have to be able to survive because we live on the basis that we will do. what the west, one way nef. i'm going to develop as independent nations. speaking about mr. donald trump, who's going to be assuming office, what do you think is going to be different from his previous 10 to he's new to him and is it and she's concerned, i mean do some really threats that we a share and so is the and so you concerned and what do you think will be the difference from the 1st and the 2nd to when you go to court that in this fest tub the tub did not close been try did last see i for the guys a pilot the we don't know if that would change it

if up to us to persuade him to understand that we do exist and we, we, uh it could to kind of clear. yeah. uh and that thing once he comes here and getting to understand, i'm sure we, we may see that change of a teacher. but we do want to see a cost benefit because it's important we little for products go today as they need it. so if the new president of the us doesn't see a flick as a pile a t, and so that's the conductor of the unfortunate, but i don't, i don't think we should give up. i think we need to engage as low seen a number of african countries, including those in the hill region advocating for a complete overhaul on with regards to 2nd countries having military presence in, in africa, and particularly the west,

the deputy president. but obviously it takes 2 to tango. does the amc think that the desire for change will be a code from all parties with regards to that? when we stop on it, i think it's time that that come to send the claim to then be given space. eh, to focus on their own development. i've done believe like a, you know, that the ted a key to a co pipe. but we want this things to be done just for the, these changes that it's, it's important. and also that they themselves discount this once they've made this changes, they must say in showed that they set the democratic distributions that don't ensure that you're not. they continue with that by to vote of the i people eh,

participate and for the elections. and so, but i don't think we can be a gaze that changes that, that taking place with regards to military presence of the west and africa. yeah i'm, i'm saying that those come to is that the see, we want to see that on that we sent data, right. uh we, we do support military presence where we're trying to resolve conflict. as you know, we, our self as our own troops in the b. c is not something that's ideal to us. we want to get out of this soon as possible. and that's why we support that ongoing lot when they came up with was the negotiations that there was the one the but i'm told that so through, but i didn't the we,

we should not eh, or comply other countries. so many patients in, in, in west africa con smith id is about invite that to us is called this conflict that's understood, but, you know, when they use peace, you know, they need to, to get out so that the little kind of people can get on with their business deputy president, you've been a leader in south africa for many years and value one various hats. for those who don't know, you'll also the deputy president of the republic of south africa. but i want you to take us into your confidence. looking at the developments in africa and looking at africa's relations with countries outside of africa, the west, for example, in europe. for example. do you think africa has what it takes to economically free itself from the shackles of bridge,

lying on the waste to tell us what it takes to the extent that the doesn't isolate itself. eh, you know, the economy and economy, clothes of countries so entirely to the so i don't want, i freaked out to isolated sales, but do you think it's able to be independent, economic charities? oh, yes, of course we've got them in that house. we've got to lots of things inside of it. that's what we have already taken a decision that we're not going to, you know, spot or no. i mean that i was that been associated. yeah. and the one to see all of the code is enough for tim clinton mentoring to say, because that has been the weakness of a lot of resources, but we don't use them to benefit our own nations. eh, we expedite,

we export your car, grow economics. i bet because you buy finish clothes from us. so we have the petition. and if with the beneficiary t o, i mean the resources that a surprise, great potential. but it will have to continue to work with us because as an equal partner, as you qualified men, because remember, even if you have this the resources and you do finish goose unit to export them some way. so you'll, you'll, you'll cannot do it if you don't have a good relationship with the, with the, with the east eh, and so on, but of the guy of this of read it to most to and how you live. so thank you so much deputy president for your time to really do appreciate that. the deputy president of the african national congress. hold my site. the my

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