the we have lots of burger shots coming from the united states and especially the new administration. uh huh. and also the and then the problems which concerns also with the army. and these are the army uses now, sending reports to the side, get the of the what they are doing. and guys that are asking, what do we have the plans do we have to start the what are the targets that we are only accepting the doc at for the but i still exist as long, you know, giving us a hard time, especially in the last few weeks, so this or out of factors to brush of ice and nothing. you have to go ahead with this, right. the right to how. yeah, yeah, yeah. so it's, i do apologize for jumping in, but i hear on such a role as well. but i wanted to ask you where we stand today with this ceasefire. now, do you think there's a prospect of israel, perhaps expanding its settlements further into the west bank?

i asked that because do you think maybe a green light could have been different? but this could have been a bargaining chip and they cease fire, stop the will, but you can continue expanding your settlements. oh yes, absolutely. i think this is the price also in which should have been able to speak for tom. and who does he want to do? you know, a green line that will go ahead with the next session on the bottom of the list. but we believe now the moment that the cease fire a begin mary energy will on sunday. and the dear the, the next the button or the next, the war it, we're just going to be in the back. the especially and the right wing a small college. and the vs are preparing themselves for the moment of ending the war to go ahead with the i was back to eliminate as much as they could over the bursting existence in the west bank and at the same time and aggravation. expanding the center must break even more suggest and

a beautiful drawing more land in and that was about me. so we know that this is bill extracted far far. there's a government. well, i think i think a number of people are moving forward with cautious optimism, but there are of course others who are pretty pessimistic about this whole si fi deal, but saw the motor. it's always so good to get your commentary aside as a professor of political science. is it the ability to university joining us live through analogy international many times for your time and your comment to you and thank you side. thank you for joining us here for this program live for most one clear and the way from my colleague. and what i mean is here at the top of the alex, i do hope you can join him, that the

hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things are considered? i'm peter lavelle. there's trouble in mag a world. donald trump successfully brought together a diverse coalition of voters to win the presidency for the 2nd time, but to an open question. now if this diverse coalition can govern, soon we will learn with megan is really about the processing my gum joined by my guess, entry wong in miami. she is a miami executive district committee. woman. also in florida, we have tom logo. he is publisher of the gold gods and guns blog and newsletter. and in nashville, we crossed to steve gill. he is an attorney and conservative tv and radio, political analysts or at cross link roles. and in fact, that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciated, okay,

let's go 1st, the entry in miami, in a few days time we will have the return of donald trump as present into the united states. obviously his political banner is maga, but in the weeks proceeding to isn't argue racing, we've seen a lot of futures and, and squabbles within the mag a movement. what does maga mean to you? and when i ask when it, what it means to you, does maga mean something different to everyone? is it really a movement or is it something that we all possess? we think we know when it is go ahead entry a. well, mega is a very personal thing, but it is. ringback movement, we've seen the mandate that president trump has gotten to change america and make it right again and make it great again. so you're to see that airline, seeing that he's already been in office yet, it's been 2 months since donald trump has been elected. and you're seeing the world shift monumentally, things that bite and can even do in 4 years. so it's

a major movement. i think you're gonna see a lot of changes in the 1st 100 days of the mag and movement. and donald trump and you know, that's gonna involve as well. it's gonna fall into policies, into geo politics. and we're going to be, you know, we've been or sit tight because there's going to be a lot, a lot of hesitating and a lot of big changes in the world. okay, tom essentially the same question to you. but with the added copy, does eli and musk represent margaret in your mind, steve bannon, these are very different people. okay. and there are other characters within the trump or but there is just as different from others. go ahead tom. yeah i, i, i don't, neither of those men represent when mega actually is. i think the mag, at this point is a complete overhaul. the way we do things was thinking about this for my let my latest writings and, and i really do believe that is we're at a moment where everybody in america is feeling that we either we either evolve or we were there. and it were at that inflection point. and if we don't evolve,

then we will weather and i think the fires in california are a perfect example of, you know, the kind of been emblematic symbol of the, the right within the existing system. and i think that that is what ultimately we want and it means different things, different people, and with my own community, i can see it. we have divisions all the time about what you know and the anxiety over getting it done that's it gives the biggest impediment to getting anything done. and a lot of people are out there still getting those anxieties in order to try and not get it done because of course maga is the enemy of what we well i would, i would like to call da. those are the european global as you have a much different agenda for the future. and donald trump is of course, orthogonal to that. so now and once we get into that, that can of worms, it opens up a lot of, of real, real complications to, to have, are difficult to explain, to the average person to the average your so, well i, well it's, you know, what i mentioned, steve van and e, one most good, mean it's not a bad thing that, that are in the same uh,

movement today actually could be good because we need very vigorous debate. that's one of the reasons why the, the democrats were said packing and hopefully packing for a long time to come. but steve, i mean there, when we look at the visa controversy and all that, i mean very diverse views and very passionate views as well. um, is that going to be something that's going to be debated within this administration or one side house, the wind over the, the other like on the issue of tariffs, go ahead, steve and nashville. i think it does mean different things to different people, but like a venn diagram there is overlap of what policies are, what issues people embrace even if they don't really embrace, embrace everything. you know, what's also interesting is that america is not limited to the united states. although it's bank america, great again. i mean you look at italy, maloney isn't bracing back up for the most part hungry. you, you've got new you in argentina, they've been implement any mag up principles and policies like prompt is about to

do in the united states. so it's not even limited to the us now to the left. badger means apple that apple apocalyptic disaster. it means epic. horrific things. dogs and cats sleeping together. it is not gonna be that bad. and frankly, the american people to embrace that it's, it is different than what republicans have done in the past. it is populism read the lease is and, and i think that's where it's going to be fun to watch. that's exactly where i wanted to go. steve. thank you very much, that man g, because that's what i a, that's what i find attractive about maggie, is it? it's not republican, per se, because the republican party has been part of the problem. it's still the problem if you look at the senate. okay. and i would even argue, even within the house, um there are still needs to be a lot of things flushed out there. but angie, steve brings up a germain point here, is that this is also a departure from the republican party, which means

a departure from the do walk. police go ahead, enter. yeah, and i love it. this is the new republican class, guys. we are the old democrats actually, and we are the j a. k democrats. this is exactly where this comes from. see the left. what ways you left for anyone's chase? anyone who is moderate, who is working, who commonsense. they can't be part of that party. and every single day i see the florida leaders where i am leaving the democratic party because who wants to be on that ship anymore. but the right, this is this new law of the party. it well says everybody and we, we, you know, black latino asians wives and everyone can come on board on this party. and we, we want to grow this party because it is the common sense party at this point. the left went too far, and this is the rep precautions. yeah, well tom, what, what happened was, i mean, we'll be dissecting this for a long time to come by. trump's return is a remarkable political event in american history. and i would even say in

a western democracy, in general, as considering our western democracy is dwindling. but you know, one of the things that, and would makes me very hopeful, i want to be helpful, is that the republican party, the mag move meant more specifically is embracing class politics, which the democrats of jettisoned. but we have to remember the bernie burrows, they didn't just go away. they voted for trump, tom that they voted for trump in 2016 to by the way. yeah. you know, and i love steve's point about maloney. yeah. is it? yeah, this is a different, this is different thing. the goal of well, well, the way trump ran the campaign this time he did exactly what i expected him to do. it just he was doing his very best to grab the people in the center 1010 to default democrat because they can't bring themselves. but republicans, they've got that. they've got that and part of the center, the say, no, it's okay. and then when you have people like jamie diamond,

come out early on in the, in the primaries and say it's okay to vote for nikki haley. it does not because he was a near con, is because he was trying to help us. wall street friends. it's okay to vote for republican notch. nikki haley, and then you've seen since then? diamond shifted. now he likes trump. he likes what he's doing. so wall street had his blessing at the same time as trump was able to go out to the, to the soccer mom set of the, the, the center and go grand people of normal people i told you, gathered and are okay. and all that bring in, you know, former democrats, you know, guys like even more hand racing and all that stuff that all those people that went on joe rogan and the last month of the campaign. as we're all, we're all very important players to get those people to say to themselves, okay. i have, i have people that i respect are going to do this. i can, i can do this. yeah. the steve, i'm tom brings up a fascinating point. i actually, i hadn't thought about it is that it's, yeah,

i don't really want to vote republican because of how the republicans and the liberal media have been tardy. but you can vote for donald trump. again, they're 2 different things for a lot of people, there are 2 different things. for me, i see n g nodding their head. she's agreeing. these are different. donald trump is represents a movement that could mean a lot of things to a lot of people, but not necessarily the republican party. that was his political breakthrough, steve, as well as its questionnaires, and as it's hard to raise it before he even takes office again. what follows, i mean, he's a once in a millennial politician, he's done things that have to have broken politicians in the past, but he does sales on through. i mean, this is the guy who's gone from mcdonald's work or garbage truck driver and convicted felon to the white house. the next person for the republican party. keep that coalition of black, hispanic, latino democrats, moderate republicans coalescing together. all right, and i think that's going to be the real challenge for the republicans. this is

a trump party, not necessarily a republican party and i'm not sure how they can. busy get together moving forward with that. well, that's the big question here. but, and to you, you are the 1st to bring it up. i'm sure like the rest of you and our viewers. i'm really tired of the race card that the left always play. and i'm hoping that this was a, a, a frontal assault against this kind of race baiting that we have, the democrats and the left has been playing on us. it doesn't really matter. and that's what this election proved. it is more about a movement. and i, and again i, i, i want to close the stress, the class is playing a role in here. and that's going to be a challenge for the mag and movement moving forward. go ahead entry. no, absolutely. and you know, just to harker on the point that there, there are people who voters who only voted for donald trump, but not down valid republicans. this mound, right? so we're, we're looking at that data cuz we barely ever seen that before. so that, that actually absolute right to steve's point,

that truck is one for the millennium kind of candidate. and he pulls on through. now, as far as race goes, well, you know, democrats only have races. i've been wondering all this time, how democrats keep voting against their own personal interest just of a democrat, and a lot of it has to do with race and gender and sexuality because they see that something, all other issues, including policy. so, so, uh and that is a phenomenon that i look at all the time, but i look at candidates to run against incumbents. you know, if you knock out that officer, which is gender sexuality, race, then you can actually get to the policy. it's almost like that when you yeah. what we're, it's, it's like we have more important things to do. i think that i feel like there is like, all right, everybody going to jump in here? we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on mega say, with our team the

the welcome back to cross stock where all things are considered on peter la belcher mind, you were discussing maga, the,

okay, let's go back to n g and in miami, over the last few hours we had a earth shaking news. oh, good news um a ceasefire coming into effect uh, surrounding and conflict between these railways and hum us. and i don't want to go into the origin story here because a lot has been talked about that i have very strong views on it. but we are talking about maga and it is really quite remarkable that donald trump, for the interest office, had to stump his foot once and hard. and he got his way and something that we were told for what 1618 months was impossible to solve it. and that was an issue that is divided the american people divided the democratic party divided the republican party and even divisions in within the mag, a movement here. but they are on the, on the hours before the analogy ration,

donald trump, can claim at least temporarily a fam, really the as a foreign policy, one of the stuff, even president of the united states. angie, it's incredible. look, this is a great 1st move by donald trump. it sets the stage for all world policies. he's gonna be sending forward, especially with mark rubio and the him as secretary of state. this is a strong message and if you see the non roll photo that donald trump put out is very much like his mug shot is strong. he is not smiling, he's not, couldn't, he's not pulling around. he's going to clean things up and that is what he's delivering. and you know, with the help of contort, i'm sure he put a lot of pressure there. they made that deal happen. now, this is a great press release straight. what will actually happen in the 1st 100 days is really going to matter. it is a great thing to put out right before you are inaugurated. even the binding camp is a bite and can even pull this off. well, i mean tom,

i mean add insult to injury. it's a bite and is taking credit for it. i mean, you know, don't let the door hit your blank on the way out. ok, i mean, what a disgraceful man. this is. he could have made that phone call himself, but he didn't have the, the, the got to do it. okay. tom is real, has divided a lot of people uh, in the united states and within both parties here. um, but at the same time you have marco rubio. yeah. walter, you have a lot of these people around him that are obviously per train themselves of being very pro israel very pro design is but it's the same. donald trump use the jeffrey sachs video from a few months ago on his own true social. i mean it's his, the people he's chosen are very uniform, but we still don't know what he himself actually thinks. putting that video out of wood, jeffrey sachs, and about netanyahu was a remarkable event, may be

a historic event. go ahead, tom. well, it's a, it's a similar to it is a, is remarks about putting russian ukraine a couple of days ago, which were when, when's the last time we heard foreign policy? rationality about russia from an american senior american politician. never the like. she's about to becomes the only other one is he's about the director of national intelligence, tulsa garrett, right? so what i say, you know, the, the, the, the risk here with this, the ceasefire and i'm being pure strategies here. this is not my opinion. this is just me playing the game board. he's got he's gonna have problems. right. he's got, yeah, yeah, he's gonna have problems and within not only the, the movement itself because he's, it's, it's the people who backed him and put him in power. and i think the thing we need to look at here is, what is trump going to do next? these are the a, ron, because getting a ceasefire with a mouse is one thing, but he has to secure is real future. okay. so it's

a very tight rope to walk and we have to rush and signing a direct at the strategic defense agreement with ron this week. so now i've been saying for years that this is a solvable problem. if the 2 big powers basically walk away from the area, securing their proxies and, and walking away and don't, and then leaving it to everybody else to sort out with erred again and damascus. right? we have this set up for it. so the question now is, how do you secure israel's future and deal with the fraud and deal with this? and i think the solve it. i hate to say this is that because the accuracy iran has to go and that may be on the horizon folks. and not to say that you know, that the obviously not a wrong. yeah. yeah. maybe you know, but so, but tell them you throw it to steve. i mean that's way sure. i presume is the quid pro quo oh, about the ceasefire. is that we don't know what was given in return,

complete annexation of the west bank or war against the run. we don't know that okay. we do know that the israelis were forced to the table. that's all we know. okay. and we have no idea if it's going to work right? because we have seen these re lease repeatedly, torpedo ceasefire talks. okay. trump remarkably got nothing. yeah. who to do it? steve. ukraine is already been mentioned here. again, a trouble in mag a world because 1st it was going to be solved in a day, which we course all knew that was this bluster, okay, i never took it seriously. nobody else did. but now it's going to be maybe a 100 days now it's, it's not going to be so easy. it's going to take time. reality is showing its face here. this is going to be a very difficult thing to, to resolve. and the good thing is, is that people like ged vans, understand that trump appears to understand it from time to time. it leaves, but not all the other people around them keep kellogg. he's fighting the cold war

spill. i'm really disappointed with that. and boy, and many others that trump is chosen. that's going to be a tough, a tough nut to crack. go ahead, steve. well, and all of these fox news generals who are still tell my guy. yeah, crane is winning. they've been lying the whole whole time at a reality is about to come in. i think 2 things are going to happen. one truck from day one is going to change the pin at the any time. tell her machine so far, leaders river to move on. whether it's so lensky or anybody else, they're not going to be able to be digging their hands into the pockets of american taxpayers at will any longer, the atm pin numbers being changed trucks going to clamp down the checkbox. the other thing is, trunk really believes in personal connections in terms of his foreign policy policies matter. but people matter more to him. so whether it's dealing with see whether it's dealing with food, whether it's dealing with or the god personal relations are going to matter. you're already seeing that was maloney in italy. you're gonna see that with

a b a u and argentina. anybody in the world who's a leader who's not already recognized, they better have a relationship with trump is going to be on the outside. but yeah, which is why you see everybody truck, you know, probably down to tomorrow at largo and just look at one of these other 4000. do you estimate take over green land or as many or calling it mar igloo to pay attention to, to, to that portion of the world. but for a glue? i haven't heard that one there. okay. and the what, what's your take on that? because uh, you know, one of the things over the course of the, by the administration is that, and there's a lot of good podcasts, lot of bad ones too. but i mean, there's some interesting ones that say, where is the realism in american foreign policy? where's the g o politics? well, i and greenland is a very realist, okay. i mean you, it, is it a moral thing? is it a good thing? that's immaterial to politics and when it comes to geo politics. okay. and that's

what a lot of people don't understand. now i could understand why trump is talking about greenland. it's a sparsely populated. it has lots of natural resources, geographically located a lot of other countries we'd like to have control over green and i get it okay. i just don't understand why i can have better relations with them, but anyway, trump is thinking outside of the box, panama, canada, who would have thought even a few weeks ago. i mean, this is really amazing. angie. no, absolutely. we love that, but this is the great american expansion, right? we need more land, we need more resources, and we're going to be competitive in the next phase of the american history and our next generation, we need to expand some more, right? we need those things in order to compete with china, russia, etc. so i think that is what the thinking is. remember that the less expansion happened? i think it was in alaska. correct. and that was to have eyes on china and korea's,

and russia. and i think that's what he's looking at as well as, you know, he's working well and, and, and, and he was really cheap. okay. so is that a really good deal? okay. well, construct, trump is looking for a good deal. trump is looking very good. you keep going entry? oh no, i mean, i think that's what ultimately all this is about the panama canal. we've long know that the chinese and, you know, you know, maybe you control the ports there. so he, rightly so is sending kevin to break from miami down there to handle that. all of this stuff is good for america and he knows he wants to be that guy. he wants to be a legend. and in order, and this is going to be recorded in the history books as such. now i wouldn't be surprised if he went to other countries and said, hey, how about a deal? you know, he's going to ask for it. he's the guy who's just going to ask, no one else is asking. now whether or not, you know, denmark is going to allow this happen a,

maybe not. i don't know people armstrong. well, i, i don't know. i mean it's, it's been a bi partisan effort over the years. is this through completely just the europeans and the european union? let's face it tom. if the donald trump, once greenland, he's going to get it and there's no one that's going to stop him. go ahead tom. no, he is. and this is and i, i want to to 5 to finish up on my original point because it actually tells directly end of this greenland, it represents the tensor move against europe the, the ceasefire in a run it with, with israel and iran, cutting them off from cutting europe off from the middle east and now greenland to say, look, we're done with you meddling in our elections that we have to your start. we have. we know that the, the british and m dollars have been meddling our elections and meddling in our affairs forever. we have people at the top of our government who don't work for the united states. the c panel think they work for china?

i think they work through the european union. i think i'm right. i think steve bannon is wrong, and i think that's what career mind represents, among other things. and when you put the totality of this together and you will get what's going on in the financial markets with what's going on with that policy and the movement and the way the, the, the, we're going to price your dollars in the future. it's very clear that everybody is done with the ussr, including the russians, the chinese and everybody else. and they can all get together and say, you know what, you want to be communist. you have fun, we're doing and leave us alone and leave us out of it. we have a world to read. well it is, i think the best my son, but top as long as you buy our energy. that's all. yeah, there. i mean there's that. but what's it really important is that i'm, is that on monday or tuesday he's going to speak virtually at davos play talk. all right. all right, everybody, that is my speed. that's what i'm what i'm going to ask everybody to hold your breath until monday. okay. that's all the time we have. i want to thank my guest in florida and in nashville. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us

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