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is proving to be a disaster for you. great. it's best you. it's which way we originally initially throwed into the course. finally, it could be that raced ukraine has lost in this battle of attrition, over the months and months since i get some of it's moved to come that's posted you that's and it is continuing to pull reinforcements in a bid. so hold the russia to lots of to keep a what least a finger hold in the course greed you to, to see the new credit. this is very important in case of future negotiations. it will be grades ace, the territory, the russian territory. they control that they can bargain a way for you crazy and territory. but again, those negotiations are still far away. ukraine, spill legally is forbidden from negotiating with russia directly.
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furthermore, and the coolest region just over the past few weeks for several months, have been re take it a good thing. uh, alexandria uh, including the i need of, uh, uh, the russian pressure is ceaseless. russian troops are all sold to from the news from the west and from the east. nevertheless, you creating a new that's a still carry. you have count, prototype, some of those achieve something, most of them don't. ivan huge casualties, which off for you grab you replace symbols because the manpower shows it as well to the course. reason that is spelled over the front lives and the ease the cause of you credit and territory or losses one of the front lot as well. so from me for today's time is always it's great to have your company mind coming back, of course, and we'll be with you. it looks for all of the our thanks for watching, let's say to the
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the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things are considered? i'm peter lavelle. there's trouble in mag, a world. donald trump successfully brought together a diverse coalition of voters to win the presidency for the 2nd time. but it's an open question. now. if this diverse coalition can govern, soon we will learn with megan is really about
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the cross talking mega. i'm joined by my guess. andrew wong in miami. she is a miami executive district committee. woman. also in florida, we have tom logo. he is publisher of the gold gods and guns blog and newsletter. and in nashville, we crossed to the bill. he is an attorney and conservative tv and video, political analysts or at cross link roles. and in fact, that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate it. okay, let's go 1st. the angie in miami. in a few days time we will have the return of donald trump as present into the united states. obviously his political banner is maga, but in the weeks proceeding to isn't argue racing, we've seen a lot of futures and, and in squabbles within the mag a movement. what does maga mean to you? and when i ask when it, what it means to you, does mag of mean something different to everyone? is it really a movement or is it something that we all possess?
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we think we know when it is go ahead entry. well, mega is a very personal thing, but it is. ringback movement, we've seen the mandate that president trump has gotten to change america and make it right again, and they get great again. so you're going to see that you're leasing that he's living in office yet. it's been 2 months since donald trump has been elected. and you're seeing the world shift monumentally, things like bite and couldn't even do in 4 years. so it's a major movement. i think you're gonna see a lot of changes in the 1st 100 days of the mag and movement. and donald trump and uh, you know, that's gonna involve as well, it's going to fall into policies, into geo politics. and we're going to be, you know, we've heard certain times because there's going to be a lot, a lot of pivoting and a lot of big changes in the world. okay. tom essentially the same question to you. but with the added copy, does eli and musk represent margaret in your mind, steve bannon, these are very different people. okay. and there are other characters within the
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trump or but there is just as different from others. go ahead tom. yeah, i, i, i don't, neither of those men represent when mega actually is. i think mag, at this point is a complete overhaul. the way we do things was thinking about this for my let my latest writings and, and i really do believe that is we're at a moment where everybody in america is feeling that we either we either evolve or we with or, and it, we're at that inflection point, and if we don't evolve, then we will weather and, and i think the fires in california are a perfect example of, you know, the kind of been emblematic symbol of the, of the rot within the existing system. and i think that that is what ultimately we want and it means different things to different people. and with my own community, i can see it. we have divisions all the time about what you know and the anxiety over getting it done. magic is the biggest impediment to getting anything done and a lot of people are out there still getting those anxieties in order to try and not
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get it done because of course maga is the enemy of what we will i what i would like to call davos of the european goal was to have a, a much different agenda for the future. and donald trump is, of course on stock and all to that. so that, and once we get into that, that can of worms, it opens up a lot of, of real, real complications. it didn't have or difficult to explain to the average person to the average your so well i well it's, you know, what i mentioned, steve van and e, one most good. mean? it's not a bad thing that they're in the same uh, movement. any actually can be good because we need very vigorous debate. that's one of the reasons why the, the democrats were said packing and hopefully packing for a long time to come. but steve, i mean there, when we look at like the visa controversy and all that, i mean very diverse views and very passionate views as well. um is that, could it be something that's gonna be debated within this administration or one side house? the wind over the, the other like on the issue of tariffs, go ahead,
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steve and nashville. i think it does mean different things to different people, but like a venn diagram there is overlap of what policies are, what issues people embrace even if they don't really embrace, embrace everything. you know, what's also interesting is that america is not limited to the united states, although it's bank america. great. again. i mean you look at italy, maloney isn't bracing back up for the most part hungry. you've got new you in argentina. they've been implement any mag up principles and policies like prompt is about to do in the united states. so it's not even limited to the us. now to the left. badger means apple, the apple apocalyptic disaster. it means epic. horrific things. dogs and cat sleeping together. it is not gonna be that bad, and frankly, the american people to embrace that it's, it is different than what republicans have done in the past. it is part of the lives of read, their leases and, and i think that's where it's going to be fun to watch. that's exactly where i
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wanted to go. steve, thank you very much that you can do because that's what i a, that's what i find attractive about maggie, that it's not republican per se, because a republican party is been part of the problem. it's still the problem if you look at the senate. okay. and i would even argue, even within the house, um there are still needs to be a lot of things flushed out there. but angie, steve brings up a germain point here, is that this is also a departure from the republican party, which means a departure from the do walk. police go ahead entry. yeah. and i love it. this is the new republican class, guys. we are the mold democrats, actually, and we are the j a. k democrats. this is exactly where this comes from. see the left, what ways you left for anyone's chase? anyone who is moderate, who's working? who's commonsense? they can't be part of that party. and every single day i've seen florida leaders where i am leaving the democratic party because who wants to be on that ship anymore. but the right,
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this is this new law of the party as well. so is everybody and we, we, you know, black, latino, asians wise, everyone can come on board on this party. and we, we want to grow this party because it is the common sense party at this point. the left went too far, and this is the rep precautions. yeah, well tom, what, what happened was, i mean, we'll be dissecting this for a long time to come. my troops return is a remarkable political event in american history. and i would even say in a western democracy, in general, as considering our western democracy is dwindling. but you know, one of the things that, and would makes me very hopeful, i want to be helpful, is that the republican party, the mag move meant more specifically is embracing class politics, which the democrats of jettisoned. but we have to remember the bernie burrows, they didn't just go away. they voted for trump, tom that they voted for trump in 2016 to by the way. you know,
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and i loved steve's point about maloney. yeah. is it? yeah, this is a different, this is different thing. the goal of, while the way trump ran the campaign, this time he did exactly what i expected him to do it just he was doing his very best to grab the people in the center 1010 to default democrat because they can't bring themselves about republicans. they got that they've got that in part of the center. the say, no, it's okay. and then when you have people like jamie diamond, come out early on in the, in the primaries and say it's okay to vote for nikki haley. it does not because he was a near con, is because he was trying to tell this wall street friends. it's okay to vote for republican notch. nikki haley, and then you've seen since then? diamond shifted. now he likes trump. he likes what he's doing. so wall street had his blessing at the same time as trump was able to go out to the, to the soccer mom, set of the, the, the center and go grand people of normal people i tells you gabbert and r k and all that brand. you know, former democrats, you know,
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guys like even more hand recent and all that stuff that all those people that went on joe rogan and the last month of the campaign as we're all, we're all very important players to get those people to say to themselves, ok, i have, i have people that i respect are going to do this. i can, i can do this. yeah. steve, i'm tom brings up a fascinating point. i actually hi. hadn't thought about it. is that it's, yeah, i don't really want to vote republican because of how the republicans and the liberal media have been tardy. but you can vote for donald trump. again, they're 2 different things for a lot of people, there are 2 different things for me. i see n g nodding their head, she's agreeing, these are different. donald trump is represents a movement that could mean a lot of things to a lot of people, but not necessarily the republican party. that was his political breakthrough, steve. but i think the question is, and it's hard to raise it before he even takes office again, what follows, i mean, he's a once in
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a millennial politicians used on things that have to have broken politicians in the past, but he does sales on through. i mean, this is the guy who's gone from mcdonald's work for garbage truck driver and convicted felon to the white house. the next person for the republican party, keep that coalition of black, hispanic, latino democrats, moderate republicans coalescing together. all right, and i think that's going to be the real challenge with the republicans. this is a trump party, not necessarily a republican party. i am not sure how they can hold that together moving forward that well, that's the big question here a bit and to you, you are the 1st to bring it up. i'm sure like the rest of you and our viewers, i'm really tired of the race card but the left always play. and i'm hoping that this was a, a, a frontal assault against this kind of race meeting that we have the democrats and the left has been playing on us. it doesn't really matter. and that's what this
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election proved. it is more about a movement. and i and again i, i want to class a stress they class is playing a role in here. and that's going to be a challenge for the mag and movement moving forward. go ahead entry. no, absolutely. and you know, just to harper on the point that there are people who voters who only voted for donald trump, but not down valid republicans this mountain. right. so we're, we're looking at that data because we barely ever seen that before. so that, that actually absolutely is right. to steve's point, the truck is one for the millennial kind of candidate. and he pulls on through. now, as far as race goes, well, you know, democrats only have race. and i've been wondering all this time, how democrats keep voting against their own personal interest just to vote democrat . and a lot of it has to do with race and gender and sexuality because they see that something, all other issues, including policy. so, and that is a phenomenon that i look at all the time, but i look at candidates to run against incumbents. you know,
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if you knock out that officer, which is gender sexuality. yep. race, then you can actually get to the policy. it's almost like that when you. yeah, well i, it's, it's like we have more important things to do. i think that the, like there is a, all right, everybody would have jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on mega stay with our team.
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the oh, what else? seemed wrong? just don't you have to see the house to come and engagement because the trail when so many find themselves will support. we choose to look for common ground, the the welcome back, across software. all things are considered on peter la belcher mind. you were discussing maga,
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the ok, let's go back to n g and in miami, over the last few hours we had um, earth shaking news. oh, good news um a ceasefire coming into effect uh, surrounding and conflict between these rallies and homos. but i don't want to go into the origin story here because a lot has been talked about that i have very strong views on it. but we are talking about mega. and it is really quite remarkable that donald trump, before the enters office, had to stump his foot once and hard. and he got his way and something that we were told for what 1618 months was impossible to solve it. and that was an issue that is divided the american people divided the democratic party divided the republican party and even divisions in within the mag, a movement here. but they are on the,
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on the hours before the now the ration donald trump can claim at least temporarily offend really the, as a foreign policy when of the stuff, even president of the united states and g. it's incredible. look, this is a great 1st move by donald trump. it says the stage for all world policies he's gonna be sending forward, especially with mark rubio and the him as secretary of state. this is a strong message and that he see the novel photo that donald trump put out. it's very much like his mug shot is strong. he's not smile, you've not, couldn't, he's not pulling around. he's going to clean things up, and that is what he's delivering. and you know, with the help of guitar it, i'm sure he put a lot of pressure there. they made that deal happen. now, this is a great press release, right. what will actually happen in the 1st 100 days is really going to matter. it is a great thing to put out right before you are not rated even the binding camp is a bite and can even pull this off. well, i mean tom, i mean,
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add insult to injury. it's a bite and is taking credit for it. i mean, you know, don't let the door hit your blank on the way out. ok, i mean, what a disgraceful man. this is. he could have made that phone call himself, but he didn't have the, the, the got to do it. okay. tom is real, has divided a lot of people uh in the united states and within both parties here. um, but it the same time you have marco rubio. yeah. walter, you have a lot of these people around him that are obviously per trained themselves as being very pro israel very pro design is. but at the same donald trump use the jeffrey sachs video from a few months ago on his own true social. i mean, it's his, the people he's chosen or very uniform, but we still don't know what he himself actually thinks, putting that video out of what uh, jeffrey sachs and about netanyahu was
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a remarkable event, may be a historic event. go ahead tom. well, it's a, it's same similar to it is uh, his remarks about putting russian ukraine a couple of days ago, which were when, when's the last time we heard foreign policy? rationality about russia from an american senior american politician. never the like she's about to becomes the only other one is he's about the director of national intelligence, tulsa garrett, right? so what i say, you know, the, the, the, the risk here with this, the ceasefire and i'm being pure strategies here. this is not my opinion, this is just me playing the game board. he's got he's gonna have problems. right. he's got yeah, yeah, he's gonna have problems. and within not only the, the movement itself because he's, it's, it's the people who backed him and put him in power. and i think the thing we need to look at here is, what is trump going to do next? these are the around because getting a ceasefire with a mouse is one thing, but he has to secure is real future. okay. so it's
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a very tight rope to walk and we have to rush and signing a direct at the strategic defense agreement with ron this week. so now i've been saying for years that this is a solvable problem. if the 2 big powers basically walk away from the area, securing their proxies and, and walking away and don't, and then leaving it to everybody else to sort out with erred again and damascus, right? we have the setup for it. so the question now is, how do you secure israel's future and deal with the fraud and deal with this? and i think the solve it. i hate to say this is that because the accuracy iran has to go and that may be on the horizon folks. and not to say that you know, that the obviously not a wrong. yeah. yeah. maybe you know, but so, but tell them you throw it to steve. i mean that's way sure. i presume is the quid pro quo oh, about the ceasefire. is that we don't know what was given in return,
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complete annexation of the west bank or war against the run. we don't know that okay. we do know that the israelis were forced to the table. that's all we know. okay. and we have no idea if it's going to work. all right, because we've seen these railings repeatedly, torpedo ceasefire talks. okay. trump remarkably got nothing. yeah. who do it? steve. ukraine is already been mentioned here. again, a trouble in mag a world because 1st it was going to be solved in a day, which we course all knew that was this bluster, okay, i never took it seriously. nobody else did. but now it's going to be maybe a 100 days now it's, it's not going to be so easy. it's going to take time. reality is showing its face here. this is going to be a very difficult thing to, to resolve. and the good thing is, is that people like j, the vance, understand that trump appears to understand it from time to time. it leaves, but not all the other people around them keep kellogg. he's fighting the cold war
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spill. i'm really disappointed with that. and boy, and many others that trump is chosen. that's going to be a tough, a tough nut to crack. go ahead, steve. well, and all of these fox news generals who are still tell my guy. yeah, crane is winning. they've been lying the whole whole time at a reality is about to come in. i these 2 things are going to happen. one truck from day one is going to change the pin at the any time, tell her machine. so for leaders river to refine whether it's so lensky or anybody else, they're not going to be able to be digging their hands into the pockets of american taxpayers at will any longer, the atm pin numbers being changed. trump's going to clamp down on the checkbox, the other thing is, trunk really believes in personal connections in terms of his foreign policy policies matter. but people matter more to him. so whether it's dealing with see whether it's dealing with food, whether it's dealing with or the god. personal relations are going to matter. you're already seeing that was maloney in italy. you're gonna see that with a b,
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a u and argentina. anybody in the world who's a leader who's not already recognized, they better have a relationship with trump is going to be on the outside, but you yeah. which is why you see everybody truck, you know, probably down to tomorrow at largo it just looked at one of the 4 boxes. do you estimate take over green land or as many or calling it mar igloo. uh, to pay attention to uh uh, to, to that portion of the world. but for a glue i haven't heard that one there. okay. and the what, what's your take on that? because, you know, one of the things over the course of the bite in ministration is that, and there's a lot of good podcasts, lot of bad ones too. but i mean, there's some interesting ones that say, where is the realism in american foreign policy? where's the g o politics? well, i and greenland is a very realist, okay. i mean you, it, is it a moral thing? is it a good thing? that's immaterial to politics and when it comes to geo politics. okay. and that's what
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a lot of people don't understand. now i could understand why trump is talking about greenland. it's a sparsely populated, has lots of natural resources, geographically located a lot of other countries we'd like to have control over green and i get it. okay. i just don't understand why you can have better relations with them. but anyway, trump is thinking outside of the box, panama, canada, who would have thought even a few weeks ago. i mean, this is really amazing. angie. no, absolutely. we love that it, but this is the great american expansion, right? we need more land, we need more resources, and we're going to be competitive in the next phase of the american history and our next generation, we need to expand some more, right? we need those things in order to compete with china, russia, etc. so i think that is what the thinking is. remember that the last expansion
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happened. i think it was in alaska. correct. and that was to have eyes on china and korea's, and russia. and i think that's what he's looking at as well as, you know, he's working well and, and, and, and to you. and it was really cheap. okay. so is that a really good to? yeah. okay. well, construct, trump is looking for a good deal. trump is looking very good. you keep going entry. oh no, i mean, i think that's what ultimately all this is about. the panama canal, we've long known that the chinese said, you know, you know, maybe you control the ports there. so he, rightly so, we're sending kevin temporary, a from miami, down there to handle that. all of this stuff is good for america and he knows he wants to be that guy. he wants to be a legend. and in order, and this is going to be recorded in the history books as such. now i wouldn't be surprised if he went to other countries and said, hey, how about a deal? you know, he's going to ask for it. he's the guy who is just going to ask, no one else is asking. now whether or not, you know, denmark is going to allow this happen a,
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maybe not. i don't know people armstrong. well, i, i don't know. i mean it's, it's been a bi partisan effort over the years. is this through completely just the europeans and the european union? let's face it tom if. if donald trump once greenland, he's going to get it and there's no one that's going to stop him. go ahead tom. no, he is. and this is and i, i want to to 5 to finish up on my original point because it actually tells directly end of this greenland, it represents the tensor move against europe. the, the ceasefire in a rot it with, with israel and iran, cutting them off from cutting europe off from the middle east. and now greenland to say, look, we're done with you meddling in our elections that we have here. start. we have, we know that the, the british and, and davos have been meddling in our elections and meddling in our affairs forever. we have people at the top of our government who don't work for the united states. the c panel, they work for china. i think they work through the european union. i think i'm
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right. i think steve bannon is wrong, and i think that's what career mind represents among other things. and when you put the totality of this together and you will get what's going on in the financial markets with what's going on with that policy and the movement and the way that they were going to pricing your dollars in the future. it's very clear that everybody is done with the ussr, included in the russians, the chinese and everybody else. and they can all get together and say, you know what, you want to be communist. you have fun, we're done and leave us alone and leave us out of it. we have a world to read. well, it is, i think the best, my son but, but tough as long as you by our energy. that's all. yeah, that means there's that. but what's really important is on is that on monday or tuesday, he's gonna speak virtually at davos play talk. all right, all right, everybody, that is my speed. that's what i'm what i'm going to ask everybody to hold your breath until monday. okay. that's all the time we have. i want to thank my guest in florida and, and natural. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at r t c. you next time. remember, across the world,
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