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exit, they want to straight up, steal those assets entirely. so apparently russia can technically fund the both sides of this conflict, but the west can even fund their own side. meanwhile, trump who set to crash land back into the oval office next week is making it sound like washington is being super generous and not at all spending the over whelming majority of its funding for ukraine on building us weapons right at home. europe is spending a tiny fraction of what we're spending and the european nations as a combination. they should be paying the same because, you know, their economy is approximately the same size. if you add them all up. plus, there are a lot more danger than we are, so they're spending, they have a $100000000000.00, probably more than that, less spending on ukraine than we do. they should be spending money, i think is very unfair to america. it's very unfair to the united states taxpayer. yeah, it's very unfair to us the tax payers, all right,
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that they're massively subsidizing the us defense industry with zalinski serving as a mascot for the shady cause in the same way that raul and mcdonald reps, american fast food trump. and to share a common view, they see the print conflict as a useful tool to extract more nero's from the sending wallets of you citizens funds ultimately funneled toward the purchase of american weapons. right, next is a nice piece of interview with the set off because deputy prime minister there has global issues. so you have to watch by now the the welcome back to sunny south africa. we coming to you once again from the city of gold in johannesburg. my name
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is tyler item doyle by the deputy president this time of the african national congress. the oldest liberation movement in our beautiful confidence mister pool must have do this. thank you so much for your time. thank you for joining us. thank you very much to to and help you. yeah, uh, complements list the deputy president. so you just came off from the back of the amc january 8th statement in cape town of the wasted in cape. and as i've mentioned, this is the oldest operation, went to celebrate to a 113 years. this is no small feat the deputy president now talk to us about what do you think the future of the agency is and what are the 2 tests that came out from the january 8th statement? well, thank you very much. uh, the 1st thing we decided on is that we need to renew the agency and you were to call the president spend time it in by explaining that our plan to
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week and some of our members needs to be trained that. so that's really the 1st task because if we want to be successful, particularly didn't lead didn't task meant then with my 7 and 8 and see that is alive that as well. so are you in the agency is the 1st thing that we're going to do. the 2nd thing is local government and local for work happens in local government. the no way that you talk about energy. what uh, all this things happen at the local government level. so we need to fix local government may so that we have that i to people our console us must be pride. people eh, pro, pallet st with must deal with issues of ethics in local government. but also making
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sure that the says that people in those know kind of areas that that's why the president decided that i, most of the things i should do is tip to president just to focus on issues. so service been divided and when you do with issues of the state of how do you have to deal with local government? so i spend a lot of my time going all over the county meeting with some executive may us the premiums and the consulate us. so that we deal with issues that affect people on the ground did with the issues of portfolios. as i said, what the electricity accepts the fed fee. we decided that we must focus on guess speeding up the quote and let me close that. you know that the, after close at 9 to our economy, it plunged like many in the world. and we have
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a problem of high unemployment. so we have now focusing on growth, but we need to, to speed up. in fact, our economy has 10 that around between we're now seeing plus a 2 science and a positive close, but it's not enough. uh, we actually projecting this about 1.5 percent of coast. we need to, to see much the gulf coast if we are to take the high level. so finding pregnant, we need to create jobs defense thing. is that the issue of cry, eh, if you want to grow the economy, you know, has investor confidence you must did with the problem was correct. and now we're seeing in the mining say, you know, illegal activities, luckily taking place the was that people close to them as i must with dealing with
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that the expressions we're dealing with that, that all kind of mentality is been tech coat. the police has a key a plan to do with that because it's important that we make sort of stable accept to, for investors to come. so dealing with kind is one of how i bought them probably takes that, of course, the other priorities. we want to keep fund offered ken's as one build one nation. so we will lay type in the, you know, confusing emotional, di, look at where we're bringing all parties to get to the civic organization, foundations, the political parties and problem in so that we, we can agree on the agenda of nation building that to create one nation went
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together so that with both of you got that belongs to all. and the other probably to, of course is a forgotten sense. but we need to work with the best thing, the african continent that particularly to implement the agenda that 2063, but also dealing with conflict, cut it into the f. what's on behalf of the president insights of done when dates conflicting to show a decorative resolve that but we need to also tech a challenges in mozambique there it's challenges in the d r. c. and he showed that these piece in the continent cause if one to see development in the continent, we have to deal with this. that was that, that taking place, the conflict that, that taking place. but also we're looking at the, the home with speaking about the i c, j. it's been
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a year since the n c lived government filed a case of genocide against israel. how do you think the developments have been sold a day in terms of the reception from the international community? 8. when made a conscious of very positive, eh, you may be aware that the most tenuous states that have come on board to see you know, that we want to be with you on this case. you looked at identified people where i tried to hit at the beginning and they were uploaded some difficult flavin taken that to move. and we now see more and more people say you are like, we need to and this the general site when we, we are going to continue it a spec to it. even though there might be pressure for south africa to pull out from the u. s. as in early to start that, but you know,
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we're not pulling out. remember with our goal or the there was that argument that the, you know, maybe saw jessica, would it be left out to be didn't happen to man, but the u. s. is one of our biggest trading partners, but it doesn't mean will agree with them on ever to think and they know that the so on the issue of is by the colors time. we don't agree with them. we think based genocide to that must be stopped. as you may know, the i c, c, a should fire in silver based for the is ready, prime minister benjamin netanyahu, former defense minister, you'll have kalonde, and some come off eaters. do you think they is a reality of them actually being detained? do for see that actually taking place 1st to let me say that to this institutions should be respected. the when the i c. c. to say you have fun dressed. sounds good. i asked that they should be allowed to
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implement the decisions. i know that the in, in the account please people to assist the but we have sort of the guy will not stand on the we when the i c, c has pre employment is decision. so we do hope that is that i will, will comply it, but we know, you know, it's difficult. nobody want to, you know, is really give themselves into the address that the at. but it's, it's a decision of those who are part of this conventions and the thing that, that those decisions must, must be respected. so if the pundents of israel had to come to south africa, you would comply with the white integral wrist. it didn't beat you bet the problem you because there's no way we can protect and that we are part of the
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convention. and we have a suspect because if we don't, if we're going to undermine that, that home based on that conference, eh, our relations and the presidents of the muscles that has spoken about the structure of the un security council saying it does not entirely represent all countries and the taste, they are views in that regard. what reforms do you think can be in active there and to, to q? what role do you think the african union can play while the present dis, quarterly, at about the, the center console and this to beautiful. particularly with respect to the participation of africa. eh, we've, we've constituted the biggest part of the united nation as, as the continent. and, but if you look at that,
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the state give it to counsel at the moment, i think we have maybe 3 the, the countries that then we have the data to be the task of non payment and then bus. we want to be payment and then bus as much as the out of so we want to see that expanded to include more countries in the continent in the sector to conser. because when we deal with issues of peace and security, we come to spec to tests, as according to natural until the day. and we must sit around the table eh, not outside so that the guy has taken over the presidency of the g 20. what do you think will be some of the biggest challenges for a in 2025, this particular block and at how will these, how and enhance participation by these african countries read the do with
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these challenges that might be faced? was those 2? let me say that the for us instead of in the we have very we feel very, pretty village this had this opportunity that to lead to the g print that at this moment we are excited about it. and we wanted to whip not on the flip side of the car bucks, africa the we, we are pushing virus from that issue of sonya data to the with the countries. and so we've agreed to that last made this g trade a g, trinity of the continent not just stuck. so the fact that we will make sure that some of its programs and activities eh, eh,
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hip pending in a pulse of all of the equipment, especially subject. but inside of the week, i would also say it, it should not be an activity that happens in john is back. ok, tell that this activities must take place in the whole of so that's called the 912 inches. whereas mid things of the ministers will fight and then solve the government now. so since i've been ex, that's the old activities must be spread. and of course, the assignment until federal states will have to entwined the spec, eh, because for all of us. so this is logistics and so, but they bought this thing is sort of the data t equality, sustainability. we want to to use the g 20 as a platform to be able to full costs on the form of some of them out to
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that try institutions. eh, that's, that's what we're going to do the month to that's valid institutions development bands. and so need it by the time we send over this president. so we, we must say that way, if i choose something in the clinton it, where do penn african initiatives that are organized by the african union stand, for example, the payments and settlement system, the african continental free trade area, which the president president sold. i'm a pose, a spoke to and sat today at the j 8 statement. where do you think of the development is directed to and what do you think about the pay suspicion? the says south africa has taken over the presidency of the t $20.00. well, the fund that we, we wanted to benefit the continent,
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we are going to bring on board the programs of the african continental free trade area to, to push for the agenda $26.00 to $3.00 to boot the africa we want. so the s suite hit the 2 twins, the continent will be key, didn't what they have all we do, the programs that we have agreed on in the continent. the going to be a part of why do we do the one region that interpretation it made sure that the, you know, you cannot be development in the continent. becomes a priority to i spoke about peace initiatives. and that must happen because if we want to develop the african continent, we do need to show that this piece has the ability infrastructure that
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must be a priority to some of the thought of been companies already opened a to the parts of the continental focus on an influx of development so, so the, after the call we want should not just be a slogan. must be something that is t in our priority t pro, grips the so the african continental free trade area is going to be given the big probably to buy salt africa as we lead to the g print. there's been a lot of talk around a bricks, car and see of course, present puts and also mentioned the emphasis to continue to develop those national currencies. but the is talk of cause of the, the dollar isaiah and move. and that has all the see land in the as of those into which puts it in america. the president ellipse,
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all they do is who's going to be assuming office in the white house has threatened bricks, men, but support the so called dollarization move when narrative. so to speak, what do you may go back as well as i've had that set on yesterday, we need to engage him on the tariff hikes specific. now, while i'm told that he might come to the g trend to submit, so we're looking for an opportunity to engage with him. because what we are doing with us in, in, in the south that it's, it should not be a fight to that all the but this things are best discussed. so we're hoping that the, the president trump will come. and one of the things we would have put on the table
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if this matter, if it's important that the, the counters of this, of the files must really be allowed to grow and even be able to stand on their own as much as they can. that would kind of continue for years and years like on the west flow and development in this up the so it's important that we engage with them. yes. let's continue path, treat it with them. and, but they must understand that we want to develop our stuff that we want to have that freedom to develop. so what would engage with them? it's the rest at the talk. but for now, we come to this point because, you know, he has not to put it on the table with us. it's
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a comment that sound view it as a threat deputy president. and as a deputy president of an organization that has been appraised when you shift super powers or countries that have be the economies and develop economies threats in africa with as you also have some members of the any see who we spoke to said is actually a mutual beneficial relationship between south africa and the united states. but when you shift the ritz as a liberation movement that has been appraised, why do you think that signals, not just for south africa, but globally, as well as i said, we will engage him at land, but we, we can make decisions based on the site until 5, that's a, that's not how we must steve. we have priorities, we have plans and we're going to implement that. we wouldn't engage the u. s. to
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next, then that was grandson. what trade with them? we're going to do. so a lot of our products go today, u. s. they need, then we need them to the so as in this, a pro just style of for attending smoke that i bought the but we must not be poets . and that the finding a way not doing things that benefit one nation. and then this is that to work with us on the basis of products that we will engage them and of cost if they implemented decimated, to allow us to find other ways we have to be able to survive. because if we live on the basis that we will do what they're west, the one we're never going to develop as independent nations. speaking about mr. donald trump, who's going to be assuming office, what do you think is going to be different from his previous 10 to he's um,
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new to him and is the and so you concerned, i mean he's reading through it said to be a sure and so is the and so you concerned and what do you think will be the difference from the 1st and the 2nd to when you go to quote that in this fest to tom did not. cuz then trump did most of the guys a priority. uh we don't know if that will change. yeah. if up to us to persuade him to understand that we do exist and we, we uh it could to come to the uh and that thing once it comes. yeah. and getting to understand, i'm sure we, we may see a change of a teacher, but we do want to see of cost, right. isn't it because it's important we but lot of our products go to do as they
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need it. so if the new president of the us doesn't see after, because the pilot a t and so that's really got to be unfortunate, but i don't, i don't think we should give up. i think we need to engage as low seen a number of the african countries, including those in the hill region advocating for a complete overhaul on with regards to 2nd. countries have a military presence in, in africa, and particularly the west, the deputy president. but obviously it takes 2 to tango. does a amc think that the desire for change will be a code from all parties with regards to that? when we stop on tact, eh, it's, i think it's time that, that come to us in the clinton indeed given space eh, to focus on their own development rather than leave like a, you know,
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that the teddy to a co pipe. the. but we want this things to be done just for the these changes and it's, it's important. and also that they themselves discount these wives. they've made this changes that must ensure that they set up democratic these discussions that to ensure that, you know, they continue with the 5 to vote of the people eh, anticipate and for the elections. and so, but i don't think we can be a gaze that changes that, that taking place with regards to military presence of the west and africa. yeah i'm, i'm saying that those countries that the see, we want to see that on that we say dad, i, eh, we, we don't support military presence where we're trying to resolve conflict. as
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you know, we are self as say, our own troops in the d. c. is not something that's ideal to us. we want to get out of this soon as possible. and that's why we stop with it on goal when they came up with was the negotiations that the, with the one the but i'm told that fell through. but i did the we, we should not a pipe about countries, so meant to or could patients in, in, in west africa and that, that kind of smith id is about invite that to us is called this conflict that's understood. but, you know, when they use piece, you know, they need to, to get out so that the little car people can get on with their business deputy president. you've been a need to install that for
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a couple many years and you've won various hats. for those who don't know, you're also the deputy president of the republic of south africa. but i want you to take us into your confidence. looking at the developments in africa and looking at africa's relations with countries outside of africa, the west, for example, in europe. for example. do you think africa has what it takes to economically free itself from the shackles of relying on the waste to tell us what it takes to the extent that the doesn't isolate itself. eh, you know, the economy and economy. goals of countries as so entirely tipped. so i don't want, i freaked out to isolate itself, but do you think it's able to be independent economic changes on this?
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of course we've got them in that as we've gone through lots of the inside of the fact of what we have already taken a decision that we're not going to you know, export or no, i mean that was that beneficial? good. yeah. and the one to see all of the code is enough. it came clinton mentoring to say, because that has been the weakness of a lot of resources, but we don't use them to benefit the own nations. eh, we expedite, we export carton gro economics, i bet because you buy finish quotes from us. so we have the patricia and if with the beneficiary t o a minute on resources, that a surprise, great potential. but it will contest to continue to work with others because as an equal partner, as you quote men, because remember, even if you have this the resources and you do finish goose unit tech support them
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from way. so you'll, you'll, you'll cannot do it if you don't have good relationships with the, with the, with the east eh, and so on. but of the guy, if it'd be good to move to a higher level. now when you look at the developments today, in so far as the west banning russian media outlets that includes our team. what is your view, particularly what it comes to south africa because view is still struggling to access r t in south africa. don't supple, depending of any media does ditch. we should insight that one of the people who have been watching the last shift television. you're not really just a and we're going to read pretty sure that it's on band because no
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budget should be banned you most. but take the next thing, i'm not going to do. yes, but yes, i'm a communications to be able to comment is looking into that because that we come from a history where we were denied the the truth. eh, you know, when we grew up, you know, i was living in alexander and we didn't know what's happening. so way to the so let's, let's allow everybody to tell us the student. thank you so much deputy president for your time to really do appreciate that. the deputy president of the african national congress pulled my site. the my name is i team carolina coming to you from johannesburg. believe it feel for now the
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new year, our cooperation must go into iran have officially placed the 20 years to the tv partnership treaty. agree that if one parties faces addressing the other will in no way provide a new health. so the dresser, double standards have reached the end of their life. the fact that one country has the complete right to the citizens killed children and women to destroy the hospitals as well. then asserting it to position on human rights and are pointing to the way for us on acceptance. you, ronnie, i'm president muscle. this can pulls out the westward, double standards, as he criticizes them for preaching about human rights to others, while committing those same crimes themselves. these one, the cabinets.

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