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the hello and welcome to cross stock where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle . there's trouble in maga world. donald trump successfully brought together a diverse coalition of voters to win the presidency for the 2nd time, but to an open question. now if this diverse coalition can govern, soon we will learn with maggot is really about the cross talking mega. i'm joined by my guess, entry wong in miami. she is a miami executive district committee woman. also in florida, we have tom logo. he is publisher of the gold gods and guns blog and newsletter and

in nashville, we crossed to see bill. he is an attorney and conservative tv and radio, political analysts or at cross link roles. and in fact, that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciated. okay, let's go 1st. the entry in miami. in a few days time we will have the return of donald trump as president of the united states. obviously his political banner is maga. but in the weeks proceeding to isn't argue ration, we've seen a lot of futures and, and in squabbles within the mag a movement. what does maga mean to you? and when i ask when it, what it means to you, does maga mean something different to everyone? is it really a movement or is it something that we all possess? we think we know what it is, go ahead entry. well, mega is a very personal thing, but it is a movement. we've seen the mandate that president trump has gotten to change america and make it right again and they get great again. so we're going to see the

. ringback seeing that he's going to be in office yet, it's been 2 months since donald trump has been elected. and you're seeing the world shift monumentally, things that bite and can even do in 4 years. so it's a major movement. i think you're gonna see a lot of changes in the 1st 100 days of the mag and movement. and donald trump and uh, you know, that's gonna involve as well for the volume to policies into geo politics. and we're going to be, you know, we've heard sit tight because there's gonna be a lot, a lot of pivoting and a lot of big changes in the world. okay. tom essentially the same question to you. but with the added copy, does eli and musk represent margaret in your mind, steve bannon, these are very different people. okay. and there are other characters within the trump or bit there is just as different from others. go ahead talk. yeah, i, i, i don't, neither of those men represent when mega actually is. i think mag, at this point is a complete overhaul. the way we do things was thinking about this for my let my

latest writings and, and i really do believe that is we're at a moment where everybody in america is feeling that we either we either involve or we, whether it were at that inflection point. and if we don't evolve, then we will weather and, and i think the fires in california are appropriate example of we can of the kind of an emblematic symbol of the, of the right within the existing system. and i think that that is what ultimately we want and it means different things to different people. and with my own community, i can see it. we have divisions all the time about what you know and the anxiety over getting it done, i think is the biggest impediment to getting anything done. and a lot of people are out there stroking those anxieties in order to try and not get it done because of course maggot is the academy of what we will i, what i would like to call davos of the european global as you have a, a much different agenda for the future, and donald trump is of course, orthogonal to that so that and once we get into that, that can of worms, it opens up a lot of, of real,

real complications for to have are difficult to explain to the average person to the average viewer, so, well i, well it's, you know, what i mentioned, steve van and e, one most good. mean it's not a bad thing that they're in the same uh, movement today. actually, it could be good because we need very vigorous debate. that's one of the reasons why the, the democrats were said packing and hopefully packing for a long time to come with steve. i mean there, when we look at the visa controversy and all that, i mean very diverse views and very passionate views as well. um is that, could it be something that's gonna be debated within this administration or, or one side house, the wind over the, the other like on the issue of care of. so go ahead steve and nashville. i think it does mean different things, different people, but like a van diagram, there is overlap of what policies are, what issues people embrace even if they don't really embrace, embrace everything. you know, what's also interesting is that the mag

a is not limited to the united states, although it's bank america. great. again. i mean you look at italy, maloney isn't bracing back up for the most part hungry. you. you've got new you an argentine that they've been implement any backup principles and policies like crop is about to do in the united states. so it's not even limited to the us now to the left. badger means apple, the apple apocalyptic disaster. it means epic. horrific things. dogs and cats sleeping together, it is not gonna be that bad. and frankly, the american people to embrace that it's, it is different than what republicans have done in the past. it is palm deal. there's some read their leases and, and i think that's where it's going to be fun to watch. that's exactly where i wanted to go. steve, thank you very much at man g, because that's what i a, that's what i find attractive about mac. is it, it's not republican, per se, because a republican party is been part of the problem. it's still the problem if you look at the senate, okay. and i would even argue, even within the house, um,

but they're still needs to be a lot of things flushed out there. but angie steve brings up a germaine. point here is that this is also a departure from the republican party, which means that departure from the do lawfully go ahead entry. yeah. and i love it . this is the new republican class, guys. we are the mold democrats, actually, and we are the j a. k democrats. this is exactly where it is, comes from, see the left. what ways you left for anyone's chase? anyone who is moderate, who is working, who commonsense. they can't be part of that party. and every single day i see the florida leaders where i am leaving the democratic party because who wants to be on that ship anymore. but the right, this is this new law to party. it well says everybody and we, we, you know, black latino is asians wise. everyone can come on board on this party. and we, we want to grow this party because it is the common sense party at this point. the

left went too far, and this is the rep precautions. yeah, well tom, what, what happened was, i mean, we'll be dissecting this for a long time, become a trump's return is a remarkable political event in american history. and i would even say in a western democracy, in general, as considering our western democracy is dwindling. but you know, one of the things that, and would makes me very hopeful, i want to be helpful, is that the republican party, the mag move meant more specifically is embracing class politics, which the democrats of jettisoned. but we have to remember the bernie burrows, they didn't just go away. they voted for trump, tom. yeah, they voted for trump in 2016 to by the way. yeah. you know, and i loved steve's point about and maloney i'd say, yeah, this is a good sprint. this is different thing, the goal of well, well the way trump ran the campaign this time he did exactly what i expected him to do. it just, he was doing his very best to grab the people in the center 1010 to default

democrat because they can't bring themselves to book republicans. they've got that . they've got that part of the center. the say, no, it's okay. and then when you have people like jamie diamond, come out early on in the, in the primaries and say it's okay to vote for nikki haley. it does not because he was in near con is because he was trying to help us wall street friends. it's okay to vote for republican notch, nikki haley, and then you've seen since then, diamond shifted. now he likes trump, he likes what he's doing. so wall street had his blessing at the same time as trump was able to go out to the, to the soccer mom, set of the, the, the center and go grand people of normal people i tells you gabbert and r k and all that brand. you know, former democrats, you know, guys like even more kind racing and all that stuff that all those people that went on joe rogan and the last month of the campaign, we're all, we're all very important players to get those people to say to themselves, okay. i have, i have people that i respect are going to do this. i can,

i can do this. yeah. steve, them, tom brings up a fascinating point. i actually hadn't thought about it. is that it's, yeah, i don't really want to vote republican because of how the republicans and the liberal media have been tardy. but you can vote for donald trump. again, they're 2 different things for a lot of people, there are 2 different things for me. i see n g nodding, their head cheese agree, these are different. donald trump is represents a movement that could mean a lot of things to a lot of people, but not necessarily the republican party. that was his political breakthrough, steve. but i think the question is, and, and it's hard to raise it before he even takes office again, what follows, i mean, he's a once in a millennial politicians used on things that have, have broken politicians in the past, but he does sales on through. i mean, this is the guy who's gone from mcdonald's work for garbage truck, driver and convicted felon to the white house. the next person for the republican

party cheap that coalition of black hispanic, latino democrats, moderate republicans coalescing together. all right, i think that's going to be the real challenge with the republicans. this is a trump party, not necessarily a republican party. i am not sure how they can hold that together moving forward that well, that's the big question here a bit and to you, you are the 1st to bring it up. i'm sure like the rest of you and our viewers, i'm really tired of the race card but the left always play. and i'm hoping that this was a, a, a frontal assault against this kind of race baiting that we have. the democrats and the left has been playing on us. it doesn't really matter. and that's what this election proved. it is more about a movement. and i, and again i, i want to close to stress the classes playing a role in here. and that's going to be a challenge for the mag and movement moving forward. go ahead entry. no, absolutely. and you know, just to start on the point that there,

there are people who voters who only vote for donald trump but not down valid republicans. this mound, right, so we're, we're looking at that data cuz we barely ever seen that before. so that, that actually absolutely is right. to steve's point, the truck is one from the millennium kind of candidate. and he pulls on through. now, as far as race goes, well, you know, democrats only have race. and i've been wondering all this time, how democrats keep voting against their own personal interest, just of a democratic. and a lot of it has to do with race and gender and sexuality because they see that from thing, all other issues, including policy. so, and that is a phenomenon that i look at all the time, but i look at candidates to run against incumbents. you know, if you knock out that opposite, which is gender sexuality, race, then you can actually get to the policy. it's almost like that when you. yeah. what, where it's, it's like we have more important things to do. i think that the like,

there is like, all right, everybody would have jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on mag. i stay with our team, the liquid. at least we get them to know greetings from the most and the police are worked on any about that i see on your own most of us because i didn't especially the going to the life of the month. not already filled up just a boy or the parent joe schifflit his toilet. looks like it goes off a little business list learners. are you familiar with building some of the news? the not local news cuz i had a spanish, so i sent you a discount, but it, sir, you're welcome. you have with them using it. when you watch and you quoted. so let's just shut simple the listing and you're not going when you want to move these rates

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the welcome back to cross software. all things are considered non peter labelle. to remind you we're discussing maga, the, okay, let's go back to n g and in miami, over the last few hours we had a earth shaking news. oh, good news. um a cease fire coming into effect uh, surrounding and conflict between these railways and hum us. and i don't want to go into the origin story here because a lot has been talked about that i have very strong views on it. but we are talking about maga and it is really quite remarkable that donald trump, before the interest office, had to stump his foot once and hard. and he got his way and something that we were

told for what 1618 months was impossible to solve. and that was an issue that, that is divided. the american people divided the democratic party divided the republican party and even divisions in within the mag, a movement here. but they are on the, on the hours before the analogy ration, donald trump, can claim at least temporarily a federally the, as a foreign policy. one of the stuff, even president of the united states. angie, it's incredible. look, this is a great 1st move by donald trump. it sets the stage for all the world policies you can be sending forward, especially with mark rubio and the him as secretary of state. this is a strong message and if you see the dog roll photo that donald trump put out, is very much like his mug. shot it is strong, he is not smiling, he's not, can it? he's not pulling around. he's going to clean things up and that is what he's

delivering. um and you know, with the help of contort, i'm sure he put a lot of pressure there. they made that deal happen. now, this is a great press release, right. what will actually happen in the 1st 100 days is really going to matter. it is a great thing to put out right before your inaugurated. even the bite in camp is a bite and can even pull this off. well, i mean tom, i mean, add insult to injury. it's a bite and is taking credit for it. i mean, you know, don't let the door hit your blank on the way out. ok, i mean, what a disgraceful man. this is. he could have made that phone call himself, but he didn't have the, the, the got to do it. okay. tom, israel has divided a lot of people in uh uh, in the united states and within both parties here. um, but it the same time you have marco rubio, you have wall to have a lot of these people around him that are obviously per train themselves and being

very pro israel very pro design is but it's the same. donald trump use the jeffrey sachs video from a few months ago on his own true social. i mean, it's his, the people he's chosen or very uniform, but we still don't know what he himself actually thinks, putting that video out of wood, jeffrey sachs, and about netanyahu was a remarkable event. maybe a historic event. go ahead tom. well, it's a, it's a similar to is, is uh, his remarks about putting russian ukraine a couple of days ago, which were when, when's the last time we heard foreign policy, rationality about russia from an american senior american validation. never like she's about to become the only other one is he's about the director of national intelligence, tulsa garrett, right? so what i say, you know, the, the, the, the risk here with this the ceasefire and i'm being pure strategies here. this is not my opinion, this is just me playing the game board. he's got he's going to have problems. right

. he's got yeah, yeah, he's gonna have problems and within not only the, the movement itself because he's, it's, it's the people who backed him and put him in power. and i think the thing we need to look at here is, what is trump going to do next? these are the a, ron, because getting a ceasefire with a mouse is one thing, but he has to secure is real future. okay. so it's a very tight rope to walk and we have to rush and signing, a direct at the strategic defense agreement with ron. this week, so now i've been saying for years that this is a solvable problem. if the 2 big powers basically walk away from the area, securing their proxies and, and walking away and don't, and then leaving it to everybody else to sort out with erred again and damascus, right? we have the setup for it. so the question now is, how do you secure israel's future and deal with the fraud and deal with this? and i think the solve it. i hate to say this is that the accuracy iran has to go.

and that may be on the horizon folks and not to say that you know, that the obviously not a wrong. yeah. yeah. maybe. yeah. but so, but tell them you throw it to steve. i mean that's way sure. i presume is the quid pro quo oh, about the ceasefire, is that we don't know what was given in return, complete annexation of the west bank or war against the run. we don't know that. okay. we do know that these rallies were forced to the table. that's all we know. okay. and we have no idea if it's going to work. all right, because we've seen these railings repeatedly, torpedo ceasefire talks. okay. trump remarkably got nothing. yeah. who to do it? steve. ukraine is already been mentioned here again, a trouble in maga world because 1st it was going to be solved in a day, which we course all knew that was this bluster, okay, i never took it seriously. nobody else did. but now it's going to be maybe

a 100 days now it's, it's not going to be so easy. it's going to take time. reality is showing its face here. this is going to be a very difficult thing to, to resolve. and the good thing is, is that people like ged vans, understand that trump appears to understand it from time to time. it leaves, but not all the other people around them. keith kellogg, he's fighting the cold war. still, i'm really disappointed with that. and boy, and many others that trump is chosen. that's going to be a tough, a tough nut to crack. go ahead, steve. well, and all of these fox news generals, who were still telling the yeah, crane is winning. they've been lying the whole of time at a reality is about to come in. i think 2 things are going to happen. one truck from day one is going to change the pin at the any time, tell her machine. so for leaders river to move on, whether it's so lensky or anybody else, they're not going to be able to be digging their hands into the pockets of american taxpayers at will any longer,

the atm pin numbers being changed trucks going to clamp down on the checkbox the other thing is, trunk really believes in personal connections in terms of his foreign policy policies matter. but people matter more to him. so whether it's dealing with see whether it's dealing with food, whether it's dealing with the article on personal relations are going to matter. you're already seeing that with maloney in italy, you're just gonna see that with the you and argentina. anybody in the world who is a leader who's not already recognized, they've better have a relationship with trump. is going to be on the outside, but you yeah. which is why you see, and everybody truck, you know, probably him down to tomorrow largo and just look at one of these out of the 4000. do you estimate take over green land or as many or calling it mara igloo. uh, to pay attention to uh uh, to, to that portion of the world. but for a glue i haven't heard that one there. okay. and the what, what's your take on that? because, you know, one of the things over the course of the bite in ministration is that, and there's

a lot of good pod cast lot of bad ones too. but i mean there's some interesting ones that say, where is the real is i'm in american foreign policy. where's the geo politics? well, i and greenland is a very realist. okay. i mean, is it a moral thing? is it a good thing? that's it, material to politics and when it comes to geo politics. okay. and that's what a lot of people don't understand. now i could understand why trump is talking about greenland. it's a sparsely populated, has lots of natural resources, geographically located a lot of other countries we'd like to have control over agreement. i get it. okay. i just don't understand why can't have better relations with them. but anyway, trump is thinking outside of the box, panama, canada, who would have thought even a few weeks ago. i mean, this is really amazing. angie. no, absolutely. we love that, but this is the great american expansion, right? we need more land,

we need more resources. and we're going to be competitive in the next phase of the american history and our next generation, we need to expand some more, right? we need those things in order to compete with china, russia, etc. so i think that is what the thinking is. remember that the less expansion happened? i think it was in alaska. correct. and that was to have eyes on china and korea's, and russia. and i think that's what he's looking at as well as, you know, he's working well and, and, and andrea here was really cheap. okay. so it's a really good sale. okay. well, construct, trump is looking for a good deal. trump is looking very good. you keep going entry? oh no, i mean, i think that's what ultimately all this is about the panama canal. we've long know that the chinese have, you know, you know, maybe control the ports there. so he, rightly so is sending kevin to break from miami down there to handle that. all of this stuff is good for america and he knows he wants to be that guy. he wants to be

a legend. and in order, and this is going to be recorded in the history books as such. now i wouldn't be surprised if he went to other countries and said, hey, how about a deal? you know, he's going to ask for it. he's the guy who's just going to ask, no one else is asking. now whether or not, you know, denmark is going to allow this happen a, maybe not. i don't know people armstrong. well, i, i don't know. i mean it's, it's been a bi partisan effort over the years. is this through completely display europeans and the european union? let's face it tom if. if donald trump once greenland, he's going to get it and there's no one that's going to stop him. go ahead. tom, you know, he is and this is, and i, i want to to finish, finish up on my original point because it actually does tell us directly into this greenland. it represents the tensor move against europe of the ceasefire in a rot it with with is rheana, ron cutting them off from cutting europe off from the middle east and now greenland

disabled. we're done with you meddling in our elections that we have here. start. we have, we know that the, the british and, and dollars have been meddling in our elections and meddling in our affairs forever . we have people at the top of our government who don't work for the united states . the c panel think they work for china. i think they work through the european union. i think i'm right. i think the balance wrong, and i think that's what career mind represents. among other things. and when you put the totality of this together and you look at what's going on in the financial markets, with the, what's going on with bed policy and the movement and the way the we're going to price your dollars in the future. it's very clear that everybody is done with the ussr, including the russians, the chinese and everybody else. and they can all get together and say, you know what, you want to be communist. you have fun, were done and leave us alone and leave us out of it. we have a world to read. well, it is, i think the best my son,

but type as long as you buy our energy. that's what we have there. i mean there's that. but what's really important is on is that on monday or tuesday, he's going to speak virtually at davos play talk. all right. all right, everybody, that is my speed. that's what i'm what i'm going to ask everybody to hold your breath until monday. okay, that's all the time we have. i want to thank my guest in florida and in nashville. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our t. c. you next time. remember across the world, the in 1941 with the nazis health relation, ultra nationalist view, astonishes the claim, the independent state of croatia. shortly off, the seizing power. they build the scene of us concentration camp a place associated with the worst atrocities committed in yugoslavia during world

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