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to try to come commit to anything, let alone in interest situations on such a long timeframe. uh well, uh, this the comprehensive as drafted or to read to you, which is the site to be signed to today between wi fi and your wrong. we'll replace the previous agreement so that was signed in 2001. however, today is a treaty is expected to be more comprehensive and fast. while there is no exact information available about the poor areas of the treaty, it has to be circulated to through the media that the cooperation will not be limited to military security issues. rather, it will be in compasses, a wide range of issues related to economy, transportation, energy sector, finest among, among others. so having said that, it is important to notice that the stablish and long term agreements and international relations such as this drastic partnership treaty between washer i do
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want that sponsor over 2 decades got in, has the stability and the predictability. and there are diplomatic ad, they call them make interactions. let's also admit the basis uh, somewhat all day to unload the uh, you know, maintaining international relations because we don't see many countries doing something like that at this point of time. it's more about p r. speeches about, you know, loud announcements, but without any specific details, usually without any specific details noted on paper. why do you think russia and the run a doing it at this moment, even though we know from our own sources, that disagreement has been in discussion for many, many years for at least 4 years. so it's not all of a sudden that they sign it, but why do you think they are still prefer? that's form of cooperation so well, this depends that according to the international us, the international community,
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as we live in looking at the current international, a u. s. laid order, we can see that c, e one and russia are facing comprehensive, and a very has the challenges of both the countries are heavily sanctioned, the economy by the us late the international order. so as such, agreements in my opinion will help them to face the mutual challenges concerned economic sanctions imposed by the western countries and you as being facing these, the common challenges. a long term partnership agreement can start to late more effectively coordination of the area for the last year of latino, which assigned a similar agreement with north korea. it was also uh, strategic, an old, encompassing. and it covers many areas, but it's specifically focused on military cooperation with the 2 countries plunging to support the each other in their attack. do you think such agreements in general
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would provide an effective deterrent against, let's say, theoretical westman strikes or on the contrary, are they more likely to sort of serve as an invitation to, for says that one to undermine those nation? uh well, let's be a little bit realistic for, for, for some countries of course, they will receive the partnerships the agreements such as once the line to be signed today between or find you want as well as the new 12 defense of treaty between washington and north korea last year as of the rights to their own security . i think that the, the conference or nations are they are looking at search partnership as a threat. they, they see the word just through a narrow and bias lives 1st, and most importantly, because, eh, they disagree to do the rights of the citizens of these countries who have endured on just the corner. they could locate for years,
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just because these nations have made the server and decisions is applied for the word to follow. according to the award, the best order was ultimately serving the interest of a specific could a nation wide. the great things they need sale for the interest and the interest of others. these agreements are wise as the reaction to their hostile actions toward russia, to the right and get security and borders as to when he to the expansion with your crane beings almost as a vivid example of these policies. i'm not sure i agree with your 100 percent here because i think uh, the russian leadership, at least on many occasions, stressed that the reason why the primary reason why they develop relations with other countries in such a form of in such a contractual long term form others because they believe that's the best way to insure a stability, and that's ultimately in their own interest. it's not just plugging uh, you know,
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vocal support and doing nothing. it's actually in a painstaking analysis of where the 2 countries can call parade to deliver mutual benefit. and that's a totally different approach to partnership from. let's say um, you know, something that is based on ideological value, is that not underwritten by concrete steps. well, of course, uh any partnership or new state. so that's wants to make such a long term agreement with other countries should be a take kind of from their own interest for national interest and national security . this is the primary goal. as of, i need a silver and states in international relations. this is if we are speaking about a normal situation, if we can describe that without being gets the right thing the from external power . so you can get new, you know what i mean. but in the case of russia, with all these mobilize ation against state and i guess the school is the and their
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attempts to isolate rusher off a, we can explain or we can interpret such partnerships with the north core. yeah. and with you want us to break into this attempts to isolate russia and putting in a, in a position that is being isolated are all the work. and then that's the and that's a and this is also we can look at the washer and also attempts to break this kind of moving the order was establishment. all for brakes are absolutely some of it. let me ask you about that because i know that you are a specialist on the rushes to use a soft power. and i was wondering if uh by sticking to this long term detailed agreements. russia is also trying to, um, essentially exemplify what kind of world daughter is, wants to seize. it wants to see if it was something that is based on concrete
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agreements, where countries actually stick to that words regardless of the political occurrence . while a treaty assigned means a treaty signed and that it will last but you know, for the time that the, that is specified. do you think that's a form of power projection in any way? first of all, we have the to understand that social power and means that we are using all kinds of the all so, so far as for example, like diplomacy, like, uh, using cultural, using cultural, even educational means. and that since if 2 days a treat you well in compasses, such as the such as domains or areas which is, which is the speaking about the cultural mutual exchanges, educational x 2 and exchanges. of course, russia is going through using its own soft powers, and a old me is. and by the way,
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and by doing that for our shot is the not the only applying soft power in it's the external or in the international policy. but it, in russia is using what they call it grants strategy. ross strategy means that you are using all the possible means and old fools that you will have. so you get the russia, is it trying to make a new fly and extends or it's a international, a tools if we can say which by using not only the sold power, but also i was strategy in dealing all of the current to challenges of the, the complex disease of the international system, i want to contrast, rushes to to, to uh, the wars and the promises and the weight of those commitments to, uh, the one that was exemplified by the u. k. prime minister, who recently visited keith, plunging in a with a 100 years of, quote unquote,
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being with the a crane to me, it sounds like a promise of return. the last with no strings attached, no commitments made. and i assume the opinion people would want to have something more concrete or more specific. what are you seeing, why this thing the west keeps sticking to these very a sudden they're all kind of policy as well as the british they, you care prime minister visit to your train in such a critical moments before just if you, if you days off the trumps the rich the head to the white house and with the drums to a problem, this is to find a swift and fast to peace or solution for there isn't your cranium issue i could read into that or if it caught is kind actually reminds me of the a john a bolster on
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a visit to your crane in april 2022 if i'm not, if i'm not mistaken. in the days where he was, a lot of the of the party had accused him that he owes those points. and that's the, the, the, the, the piece uh, i agree, mentioned that it was about to be reached between russia and ukraine. so in that sense, not the only u. k. before a few days i a, the german also edition for him is to also reach to you a grant to solar defy. and to assure that says that germany also supports the induct totally. so this is like, like point, i mean they, they should make the visits and, you know, today they come in tomorrow they go. but in terms of what the ukraine actually does or what any other country that falls for these problem is actually receives of still unclear because i assume that you're pregnant. people would want to know,
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you know, how much money, how much assistance they would receive on the construction. you know, how that army will be funded. you know, they said these are the details that the countries used to put in interest phase agreements. what may have been moreland is the west side of things, the countries to wars with the neighbors, promising them support for hundreds of years and not actually committing to anything on paper. and what i cannot understand is why do you think some of those nations in their leadership seem to be so spell bound by these kind of appeals. so by this kind of promises, i don't know anybody who, who could, or who woods the, reject a piece agreement to reach a piece or bree meant, which will bring a towel it see, and will bring a reconciliation and reconstruction as you say, to the your brain and it to the, to russia as well, and to a,
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combined to rush on and do the training again. so in my opinion, that zillow and escaped by taking to these steps by escalation, even before it would be before just a few days of the trunk, comes through the power. as with his own, a promise to talk to you with a, bring a piece to the, the conflict. i mean, he is going against his own people interest and his own people, a sustainability and as security. or if he is going this through his own personal interest, in that sense a, nobody can explain it, find unexplained ition to this to step. so escalation steps either that he is going just for his own interest as his own personal interest ad that may be business, we don't know. okay, well, the police are, we have to take a very short break right now, but we will be back in just a few moments. stay tuned.
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genocide. the welcome back to wells, the parts with lisa soc, international relations and corporation specialist as other guess state university and in russia. but certainly, so we started our conversation by discussing the treaty between russia and iran, but there is an other deal in the making or supposed the already designed uh, the one on the ceasefire in uh, in gaza, mediated by car todd egypt and the united states. the bottom administration pushed a lot for this deal. it was sort of uh, discussed uh, behind closed doors, but on a very short time scheme. what's the orientation uh, is it likely to succeed?
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well, i did the cut that announced yesterday the success of the collective efforts of egypt to a thing quarter to reach temporary cease fire agreements in gaza between who's already learned how much? well, h is the a 3 stages these by year with the many details supposed to be implemented on the 19th january as this starts to, of course, with this 6 weeks of temporaries. these uh features and also the surgery or operations by both parties. and in my opinion, the likelihood of the, the agreement success as sustainability is a promising, especially considering the batch of doing a trump will soon take office and a knowing these not in favor of starting his term with the conflict he has were and also, and promised a hell of to me to lease the case open up so reaching this kind office inspire
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and here we sold that to just before a few days ago, going through his the, to the white house. the 15 month is of the war has come to the to be silent. so in my opinion, of the timing of the disagreements indicates that so both parties have reached a stage in which we call it in conflict and for studies of 50 stage. how much cons offered to, to be any more stubborn, and it's a visa is unlikely to impose majors more severe than adults already. the experience in that started and because of the i to these factors to the existing as uh, also stronger power. lots of goods on and to the conflict and it gets a ceasefire. so literally you're, you said that the you believe the base conflict has we should speak that, but for now, the discussion is primarily on the ceasefire. on the release of these rarely hostages and the palestinian detainees,
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but there is no discussion about the historical uh, political grievances of the palestinians. where do you think it leads the main question of smile on this conflict? i think that to trump is going to uh to initiate or launch a piece of pro. so it's a cord or i p. so process the initiate of that's what would be a now, so by the us for them to least a basically to find as a sole lights and final solution for is why you and full s t m poured a sports. i don't think that the home us will be, will come to the participants in this upcoming political line to escape the pl a senior. and also he is also weekends by it's already internal divisions, a s o, in my opinion, we might see
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a new faces in the future in negotiations. it's will proceed without the presence of the, the figures to who has instigated the conflict. especially suggesting that to me it's in your whole himself and his extreme is over his the a make stream is governments and may be also side the line to death. however, a piece of process will be launched under a trump administration, like abraham accord for a new law. i think it will be the basis of these process, which is basically a piece for piece a for the lot piece by force, which might include on legends parties in mid to lease. so basically the conference may also involve a representative of from the photos to noon on thursday may be leaving and also will be coming along as soon. yeah. as well. the one thing i noticed over the last couple of weeks since the election of trump is that there is barely any mention of
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all the you and the resolutions on the palestinian question. do you think any of those resolutions which are still considered to be part of the international law panel? inducing base to bear any significance at this point? well, in my own opinion that you are the resolutions are a similar to dwayne disengagement and observe or forces. and for example, the student goal on heights. so there where international observation forces at tasked with the monitoring this situation. however, after the fall of, i thought we saw that how it's the, it's a, it's a, here's some sources less of the area a and because it's right in high seas, the implementation of, they just engagement agreements and in v did subsequently ecu part the entire city of car, nicer. all. what did they, you in peacekeeping force? do they, they didn't, they couldn't do anything regarding that. therefore,
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i believe that the discussions about the u. n. nation's and it's f, a legation organization should include considerations about the need of re considering that the construction in the international system itself. that has to be needed since the 2nd a word word reforming the united nation is on earth to us and is the 34 building and you multi pull or order which can address address, sorry, such as issues like the policy and cause that you have mentioned now uh, i gather that you are not very optimistic on the pro aspects of the policy name space. as you're not the you don't seem to be that optimistic on the return of the goal on hives to, to syria. but uh, that would suggest the be the policy of, of israel and the united states pursuit for so many tickets. the policy of, for is the policy of bloodshed, the policy of the big pad uncompromising dictated that it has succeeded. so we
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can say that it has been 60 to the succeed, it may be temporary and the current according to the current event and the trajectory of the events. so that's we could see as since the 7th of october, 2023. i mean, the whole, the bulk of the people who were supporting what they called it, the resistance of thrones. they were often mistake that this came a 7th october. we'll bring some just to the palistine in close. but what will happen then? the precaution, the also that is sold is that it's, it's broke the office, it's a the, the, the exactly opposite, the desired all calm look odd to that resistance. so from now, i mean is it, there is no around look at how mosse and, and guns though, what happened top of things off the top of us leaders, erosion,
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both of these drinks and also how much in, in the, in augusta, and living on the same scenario we could see that's a, is there a manager to talk to all the, the 1st as sick on the top as the leaders. and most importantly has enough to allow himself in syria, the adult or we deem it was be, it has been the top pulse, i mean, and looking at you won the e one is the left a alone again in the, in this arena. well, this is actually one of the biggest questions in global politics in the year of to 1000 a 25. what will happen between israel and iran? the weather is really emboldened by its advances in syria. we'll go ahead with direct stripes against a rainy and nuclear facilities or whether iran will continue. it's policy of a very, sort of public belligerence towards the west,
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towards israel and served there for either the trump administration. all of these really government and over its pre tax for attacking them. how do you use this thing? these 2 nations will sort of navigate that animosity and these new circumstances won the prize of escalating itself high. the 1st of all, to answer this question, we must recognize that is right. we know today is not the same as the one existed prior to october 7. as the following, this say date is right. you backed by the u. s. has to be operating in the media least with dial to regard for international law for human wides, even global public opinion. they don't see any all of these. they know one thing that october offense of has a pool is a significant threat to is there are in existence. so given the statements of from is right, you offer shows part degree from newton. yeah. who, himself,
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it seems for me that it is reasonable to believe that is why you indeed did turn in mind to target you want. however, it looks like it will targets for a my own opinion, the whole teas back by you want in yemen 1st to predict itself. so from i need a potential a strikes to from other directory. so the question here is not whether it's not you has the car, it's just like you want or not. the question is how and when will do that? let's not forget that. that is right, has a gone a long way destroying how much has the law and as so do you see you? yeah. to reach you want in the ends. right. so, so, so uh, but how and with this nobody can predict what we can see. uh and uh, uh, if we wanna answer the question uh, we could, we can look up from all the data and all the evidence that is happening around us
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of it seems that is right. you and you know, the interactive, the states are in favor of for redeem it. change the now you that's, it happens with assets similar might be applied in the you want as well, where iranian governments may a, therefore, become a targets for internal dis, civilization with the airports to meet, to mobilize, the countries opposition forces to drive the change from within so by we can give ron a from within and exerting economy pressure, is it all those little additional sanctions? the, the ways to might in to exert a to exert concessions of from you the wrong in regards of it's in your clear program. essentially, the goal is to a clip. you was a close and surprise that a from it's a strategic influence making. it's more the more version of those 2 x
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during the amount of pollution and subs due to, to internationally a force stage strategy. by the way, have applied in syria and have succeeded. well, i'm the instructor to they tried to applied to russia, but it has not succeeded the yet. and hopefully with countries like russia, china, and the global majority that actually wants to leave by international law. that is in favor of long term cooperation that it is in favor of agreement. is that a sign to be upheld? i hope this sort of scenario you're describing will not. and i realize that's how, but to they'll have to wait and see the families that we have to leave it there. thank you very much for being with us. thanks for having me. and thank you for watching hope to share again on worlds apart. the,
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plus the see the silver, the somebody. how can it be that um the ship to the middle east from a country whose top officials constantly complain about shortages of munitions and military equipments. destroyed no pain. the boy a bit of boss and milk, or even little boy in your system and blow game nominal facility or some of those other staff we, i'm about the easiest to to not meet with someone else. no, yeah, well i'm an easy somebody remember, above the sold will not be so kind and level why are weapons from ukraine spreading over the world to, to this country and to a major arms hub, will continue to bolster ukraine's and forces by rushing them occasionally is that they need to defend their country. the everyone knows very well that we don't sell
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but known as pineapples or any kind of children's toys. we sell weapons. yes, we're also known in the world is almost dealers. that we must not be ashamed of that the of the, in the headlines here, what are the, the ceasefire begins in gaza. the idea of kind of the deal with how boss is now in effect across the israel receive the list of hostages could be released later today the 8th, and repeatedly killed across jobs that were the explosions of the cat m shuttle crossing about. happen prior to the t stock coming into effect during the delay when, how much had yet to provide the list of hostages to return. and as a ceasefire is implemented, israel's national security, even if the resigned from that and you always covered it in protests isn't our soft
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