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hello and welcome to worlds a part of the final week before the change of power in washington has been marked by f murray of diplomatic activities that shows how differently countries around the world go about building their relationships, some have struck highly detailed deals, others extended planters of everlasting supports, all these with no strings attached. what style of international relations is likely to be more enduring to discuss them now joined by lisa? soc international relations and cooperation specialist at abigail state university in russia. that's the lisa. it's great to see you. thank you very much for your time. thanks for having b. now we'll leave in a time when making costs have been forecast about the future. seemed to be a thing of the past with major political changes happening on an almost weekly basis. and yet, i mean, it's all based on predictability. just as we reported our interview,

russia and the wrong are expected to sign a strategic partnership deal that will govern the relations for the next 20 years. isn't an obsolete to try to come commit to anything, let alone an interest in relations on such a long time frame? uh well, uh, this, the comprehensive is throughout the directory to you, which is the site to be signed to today between was signed. you're wrong. we'll replace the previous agreement so that was signed in 2001. however, 2 days a treaty is expected to be more comprehensive and fast. well, while there is no exact information available about the core areas of the treaty, it has been circulated to through the media that the corporation will not be limited to military security issues. rather, it will be in compasses, a wide range of issues related to economy, transportation, energy sector,

finest among, among others. so having said that, it is important to notice that the stablish and long term agreements and international relations such as this drastic partnership treaty between washer i do want that sponsor over 2 decades can in, has, has the ability and to predictability and their diplomatic ad. they call them make interactions. let's all submit the basis somewhat all day to unload the uh, you know, maintaining international relations because we don't see many countries doing something like that at this point of time. it's more about p r. speeches about, you know, loud announcements, but without of any specific details, usually without any specific details noted on paper. why do you think russia and the run a doing it a base moment, even though we know from our own sources, that disagreement has been in discussion for many, many years for at least 4 years. so it's not all of a sudden that they sign it,

but why do you think they are still prefer that form of cooperation? so well, it just depends like what? according to the international us, a international community that's we live in looking out to the current international u. s. so late to order, we can see that c e one and russia are facing comprehensive, and a very has the challenges of both the countries are heavily sanctioned, the economy by the us late the international order. so as such, agreements in my opinion will help them to face the mutual challenges going staring economic sanctions imposed by the western countries and u. as in facing these, the common challenges, a long term partnership agreement cast oscillate more effectively coordination of the area for the last year of latino which assigned a similar agreement with north korea. it was also uh, strategic um,

all encompassing. and it covers many areas, but it's specifically focused on military cooperation with the 2 countries plunging to support the each other in their attack. do you think such agreements in general would provide an effective deterrent against, let's say, say a radical west in a strikes or on the contrary, are they more likely to sort of serve as an invitation to, for says that one to undermine those nation. uh well, let's be a little bit realistic for, for, for some countries of course, they will see the partnerships, the agreements such as once line to be signed today between or 5 the launch as well as the new 12 defense. a treaty between wash, i know story i last year as us the right to their own security. i think that the, the countries or nations are they are looking at such partnership as off, right? they, they see the word this root canal oral and bias lives. first and most importantly,

because uh, they disagree to do the rights of the citizens of these countries who have endured on just the corner make of locates for dears. just because these nations have made the server and decisions. it's applied for the word to follow according to the award the best order was ultimately serving the interest office specific could. nations why the great things they needs else of interest and the interest of others . these agreements are wise as their reaction to their hostile actions toward russia threatening is security and borders. this, do we need to as expansion with your crane beings almost as a vivid example of these policies, i'm not sure i agree with the 100 percent here because i think the russian leadership, at least on many occasions, stress that the reason why the primary reason why they develop relations with other countries in such a format, in such

a contractual long term form others because they believe that's the best way to insure a stability that's ultimately in their own interest as well. just plugging uh, you know, vocal support and doing nothing. it's actually in a painstaking analysis of where the 2 countries can call parade to deliver mutual benefit. and that's a totally different approach to partnership from. let's say um, you know, something that is based on ideological value, is that not underwritten by concrete steps. well, of course, uh any partnership or new state. so that's wants to make such a long term agreement in other countries should be a kind of from their own interest for national interest and national security. this is the primary goal of i need a silver and states in international relations. this is, if we are speaking about a normal situation, if we can describe but without being gets the right thing the from external power.

so you can get new, you know what i mean, but in the case of russia, with all these mobilization against it and against it's fully c and their attempts to isolate russia. a we can explain, or we can interpret such partnerships with the north korea and with a want as a break. and this attempts to isolate russia and putting in a, in a position that is being isolated are all the work. and then that's a and that's a and this is also we can look at the washer and also attempts to break this kind of moving the order was establishment officer brakes are absolutely a sort of a let me ask you about that because i know that you are a specialist on the rush, us to use a soft power. and i was wondering if uh by speaking to this long term detailed

agreements. russia is also trying to, um, essentially exemplify what kind of world daughter is, wants to seize. it wants to see if it was something that is based on concrete agreements where countries actually stick to that words regardless of the political occurrence. while i'm a truth assigned me is a truth assigned and that it will last but you know, for the time that the, that is specified. do you think that's a form of power projection in any way? first of all, we have the to understand that soft power and means that's we are using old clients also also so far as for example, like dip. what am i see? like, uh, uh the, using cultural using cultural, even educational means. and that sense, if 2 days a treaty, well in compasses, such as the such as domains or areas which is which is the speaking about the

cultural mutual exchanges, educational x 2 and exchanges. of course restaurant is going through using its own soft powers and an old me is. and by the way, uh, by doing that for our shop is uh, not only applying still spyware in it's the external or into international policy, but it is the restaurant is using what they call it grants strategy. ross strategy means that you are using all the possible means and old tools that you will have. so you get the brochure, is it trying to make a new fly and extends or it's an international, a tools if we can say which by using not all lead us of power. but also i was strategy in dealing all of the current to challenges of the, the complex disease of the international system. i want to contrast rushes attitude

to the wars and the promises and the weight of those commitments to uh, the one that was exemplified by the u. k. prime minister, who recently visited keith, plunging in a with a 100 years of, quote unquote, being with the a crane to me, it sounds like a promise of return. the last with no strings attached, no commitments made. and i assume the opinion people would want to have something more concrete or more specific what they're saying, why do you think the west keeps sticking to this very a sudden they're all kind of policy as well. uh that the brady that you care from in a service or to your brain in such a critical moments before just isn't. if you days also trumps the rich to do it to the white house. add with the drums to a problem. this is to find a swift and fast to peace or solution for the is it your cranium issue?

i could re into that or is it caught? is kind actually reminds me of the a john, a bolton, a visit to your train in april 2022 if i'm not, if i'm not mistaken. in the days where he was, a lot of the of the party had accused him that he also supported. and that the, the, the, that the piece agreements about it was about to be reached between russia and ukraine. so in that sense, not only u k, before a few days i a, the german also didn't for him is to also reach to you a grant to solar defy. and to assure that so that germany also support the induct totally. so this is my exact point, i mean they, they should make the visits and, you know, today they come in tomorrow they go. but uh,

in terms of what the ukraine actually does or what any of the country that falls for these problem is actually receives of still unclear because i assume that you're pregnant. people would want to know, you know, how much money, how much assistance they would receive on the back instruction. you know, how that army will be funded. you know, these are, these are the details that the countries used to put in interest. they've agreements. what they haven't been moreland is the west side of things, the countries towards with the neighbors promising them support for hundreds of years as not actually committing to anything on paper. and what i cannot understand is why do you think some of those nations and their leadership seem to the song spelled bound by these kind of appeals. so by this kind of promises, i don't know anybody who, who could, or who would the reject a piece agreement to reach a piece or bree meant, which will bring a towel it see,

and will bring a reconciliation and reconstruction. as you said, to the, your brain as to the, to which russia as well and to a, combined to rush on and do the ocr union again. so in my opinion, that zelinski by taking to these steps, by escalation, even before it would be before just a few days of the trunk, comes to the power. as with the, he's on a promise to talk to you with a, bring a piece to the, the conflict. i mean, he is going against his own people interest and his own people, a sustainability and, and security. or if he is going this through his own personal interest, in that sense a, nobody can explain or find an explanation to this. this tips the escalation steps, either that he is going just for his own interest as his own personal interest.

and that may be business, we don't know. okay, well, that's at least that we have to take a very short break right now, but we will be back in just a few moments. stay tuned. the hello and welcome defrost the full force. here we discuss the wheel in the the

welcome back to wells, the parts with lisa sock international relations and corporation specialist at the guess state university and in russia. but certainly, so we started our conversation by discussing the treaty between russia and iran, but there is an other deal in the making or supposedly already signed the one on the ceasefire in, in gaza, mediated by her todd egypt and the united states. the bottom administration pushed a lot for this bill. it was sort of uh, discussed uh, behind closed doors, but on a very short time scheme. what's your intuition? uh, is it likely to succeed? well, i did the cut that announced yesterday the success of the collective efforts of egypt to a thing quarter to reach temporary cease fire agreements inc. does are between

who's already learned how much? well, a to the a 3 stages. these fire with the many details supposed to be implemented on the 19th january. it's a start to, of course, with this 6 weeks of temporary, it sees the features and also the um, their jury or operations by both parties. and in my opinion, the likelihood of the, the agreement stock says sustainability is a promising, especially considering the batch of doing a trump will soon take office as a, knowing these not in favor of starting his term would conflict. he has words also and promised hello to me, to least in case so for that's a reaching this kind of the ceasefire. and here we sold that to just to be for a few days, they're going through his, the, to the white house. the 15 mazda is of the will or has come to do be silent. so in

my opinion, the timing of the disagreements indicates that so both parties have reached a stage in which we call it, in conflict, and for studies. 50 is date. how much counts offered to, to be any more stubborn, and it's a visa is unlikely to impose majors more severe than those already. the experience in that started and because of the i to these factors to the existence of the stronger power, what to put on and to the conflict and it gets a ceasefire. absolutely. you said that the, you believe the base conflict has we should speak that, but for now, the discussion is primarily on the cease fire on the release of these rarely hostages and the palestinian detainees. but there is no discussion about the historical uh and political driven system of the palestinians. where do you think it leads the main question of smile on this conflict?

i think that to trump is going to uh to initiate or launch a piece of process a cord or a piece. so process the initiate of it. that's what would be announced by the us for them to do at least a basically to find as a sole lights and final solution for is why you and full s t m poured sports. i don't think that the from us will be a will come to the participants in this upcoming political line to escape the policy and on thursday is also weekends by it's already internal divisions. and so in my opinion, we might see a new faces in the future in negotiations it's will proceed without the presence of the, the figures to who has instigated the conflict. i especially suggesting that some

you send you a whole himself and his extreme is over his the a mix stream is governments and may be also side the line did that. however, a piece of process will be launched under a trump administration. like abraham accord for a new law, i think it will be the basis of these process, which is basically a piece for piece a for the lot piece by force, which might include on relevant parties and mid the lease. so basically the conference may also involve a representative of from the policy noon on thursday, may be leaving and also will be come along as soon. yeah. as well. the one thing i noticed over the last couple of weeks since the election of trump is that there is barely any mention of all the you and the resolutions on the palestinian question. do you think any of those resolutions which are still considered to be part of the international law panel, inducing base to bear any significance at this point?

well, in my own opinion that you end resolutions are similar to you and this a gauge meant and observe or forces. and but for example, that you didn't goal on high there, where international observation forces tasked with the monitoring the situation. however, after the full of, i thought we saw that, how is it the here are some as sources left to the area and because it's right in high seas, the implementation of they just engagement agreements and, and v did subsequent the ecu part, the entire studio for nice or all, what did they, you in peacekeeping force? do they, they didn't, they couldn't do anything regarding that. therefore, i believe that the discussions about the u. n. nation's and it's f, a legation organization should include considering ations about the need of reconsidering therubi,

a construction in the international system itself. that has to be needed since the 2nd awards were re for me. thing tonight of nation is on earth to is the 34 building and you multi pull or order which can address address, sorry, such issues like the policy and cause that you have mentioned now. uh, i gather that you are not very optimistic on the prospects of the palestinian space as your i know the, you don't seem to be that optimistic on the return of the goal and hives to, to syria. but uh, that would suggest the be the policy of, of israel and the united states pursuit for so many decades. the policy of, for is the policy of bloodshed, the policy of a big tad uncompromising, dictated that it has succeeded. so we can say that it has to be inspected, the succeeded may be temporary in the car and according to the current event and

the trajectory of the events. so that's we could see since the 7th of october, 2023. i mean, the whole, the bulk of the people who were supporting what they called it, the resistance of thrones. they were often mistaken that this came a 7th october. we'll bring some just to the pole a scene in close. but what will happen then? the precaution also that is sold that it's, it's broke the office, it's a the, the, the exactly opposite, the desired all calm look odd to that resistance. so from now, i mean is it, there is no around look at how much and, and does the, what happened top of things off. it's almost leaders, erosion, also these drinks and also how much in, in the, in augusta and living on the same scenario. we could see that's a is right, you manage it to talk to the, the 1st and 2nd, the top best,

the leaders. and most importantly, has industrial law himself in syria, the adult or we deem it was speed. it has been the top closed. i mean, and looking at you won the e one is the left a alone again in the, in this are we not? well, this is actually one of the biggest questions in global politics in the year of to 1000 a 25. what will happen between israel and iran, whether israel, emboldened by its advances in syria, we'll go ahead with direct stripes against the rain and nuclear facilities or whether iran will continue it's policy uh off a very sort of public belligerence towards the west, towards israel and served there for either the trump administration, all of these really government and over its pre tax for attacking them. how do you use the, do you think these 2 nations will sort of navigate that animosity and these new

circumstances, one, the price of escalating itself? hi. first of all, to answer this question, we must recognize that is why you, we know today is not the same as the one existed, the prior to october 7. as the following. this say, date is right. you backed by the u. s. has been operating in the media least with dial to regard for international law for a human wides, even global public opinion. they don't see any of these. they know one thing that october offensive has a pool is a significant threat to is there are in existence. so given the statements of from is right, you offer shows, particularly from it's in yahoo himself, it seems for me that it is reasonable to believe that is right. you indeed, did your mind to target you want, however, it look looks like it will targets for

a my own opinion, the whole teas backed by you want in yemen, 1st to protect itself from i need a potential, a strikes to from other directory. so the question here is not whether it's not you has the car is to strike you want or not. the question is how and when will do that? let's just forget to that is right. has a gone a long way destroying how much his law and asked idea syria to reach you want in the ends. right? so, so, so uh, but how and with this nobody can predict what we can see. uh and uh, uh, if we want to answer that question, we could, we can look up from all the data and all the evidence so that it's happening around us as it seems, that is right. you and, you know, the united states are in favor of for redeem it. change the now you that's, it happens with the assets similar might be applied in the you want as well,

where iranian governments may a, therefore, become a targets for internal it just of a lie station with the airports to meet to mobilize, the countries opposition forces to drive the change from with then, so by we can get you, ron, a from within and exerting economy pressure, is it all those little additional sanctions, the, the waste to my aim to exert a to exert concessions of from, in iran, in regards of it's in your clear program, essentially, the goal is to the list. you was the clothes and surprises of from it says strategic influence making. it's more the more version of those 2 x during the amount of pollution and subs due to, to internationally a force stage strategy. by the way, has applied in syria and have succeeded so well,

i'm the instructor to they try to apply to russia, but it has not succeeded the yet. and hopefully with countries like russia, china, and the global majority that actually wants to weave by international law that is in favor of long term cooperation that they is in favor of agreement. is that a sign to be upheld? i hope this sort of scenario you're describing will not realize itself, but we will have to wait and see the opportunities that we have to leave it there. thank you very much for being with us. thanks for having me. and thank you for watching hope to share again on world's a part. the

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