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jo biden's catastrophic for years notable for live stream holocaust in west asia, the promotion it was on russian. i buy crane china, but i one could today signal what donald trump has gold, the beginning of a golden age, what tricks to the military industrial complex have to subvert the 47th presidents of the usa as easy know, get rated in washington dc. joining me again from the us capital is doug found out for my special assistance you as president ronald reagan and as senior fellow at the washington think tank the cato institute. the thanks so much for coming back on to 44 years ago today that your boss 0 boss, reagan was inaugurated. i mean, you were in the beltway on saturday, is going underground. i spoke diploma. congressman, dennis could say that you ran actually a presidential candidate for our of a junior who has been appointed to a trump cabinet position, was going to be in the government. what do you get from? what's your feeling about how trump is going to rain in the appointees that despise him? perhaps,

based on what you've seen in the confirmation hearings. and these very is some would say if you, if you're a big mega republican, very strange appointments like marco rubio is national security advisor, welts even is new added to ca radcliffe, always, nobody's quite, certainly assume he learned his lesson from the 1st i administration it when you nominate people if you don't monitor them closely, they go off and do their own agenda. part of this i think, is the fact that he's really not consistent in his thinking. he's, you know, he's willing to intervene at different points. we've seen him blustering about greenland and canada, panama canal. you know, so, as it was in, he doesn't come to this with a clear, simple, 80 ology. but he certainly wants it done his way. and i think we've seen what appears to be a tougher stance towards benjamin netanyahu, for example,

than anyone expected. so trump has the ability to surprise. so i think this go around, he's learned he's got to tell his folks, do it his way. the question is, can he manage that that can keep the attention span? can he focus on it? is he willing to switch them out if they don't do that? you know, all of these are unanswered questions, but he's not us and he's not a dummy. and he's certainly saw what happened. the 1st call around his comment is about john bolton and others will undermine him. that data almost any opportunity. so one has to believe he's taking that into account. he's been much more disciplined. coming into this, a larger ration of the previous one in terms of making appointments, early, choosing people, including controversial ones, whether it's robert kennedy junior, whether it's tulsa gabbert, you know, that he certainly seems to know what he's doing this occasion. yeah, you mentioned the guy that sees 5 plan, i mean, taking on that lobby. the israel

o v in washington dc is quite a big 1st. and some people might not have expected to steve with golf. big zion is to have done that. and we will, we see we heard from bite and trying to say, hey, we read uh tragic uh, credit i'll give the over the bodies of so many most the women and children. um, do you uh, do you think that gives us a sign that he's willing to take on some of the toughest lobbies there are? because clearly, i mean, it's obviously also the end of us through the eyes of the military industrial complex, which, i mean the, i've seen some of them is companies share price is declining. e. do you think that he wants peace is the really the piece president to but he campaigned as it, i think he is not in saying that that doesn't mean that he doesn't wonder wonder around the world doing things and that he's not willing to kind of try to a certain american power and make threats day you said greenland about tomorrow,

actually you might want to go into that because, i mean, there are strategic decisions. that's right. that means almost any american security analyst would say, there are reasons for the united states to care about what happens to both the panama canal and greenwood. but they are virtually none of them would say that you kind of show up and threaten denmark that you might seize greenland or you seem to be implying that will use military force. so. ready want to take the panama canal back. but of course, part of that i think, is seeking leverage. which shows that he has this unilateral as impulse to him. where the us is a great power that needs to do what it needs to do. but i think part of that is he really doesn't want to go to war. and i think we have to give him credit the way he talks, for example, is there he talks about a lot loss of life in ukraine and how terrible that is. well, frankly, most american presidents don't worry an awful lot about people dying in other countries. george w bush never spent

a lot of time lamenting the hundreds of thousands of it. rockies who died after the us invasion and the okay, 8 years ago and trump randy gave him a foreign policy speech. it in that one point he talked about aggression and criticized us policy in places like a rock. so i think buried with in trump's bluster really is a desire to make sure americans aren't dying and stupid wars and he'd prefer other people not die. ready as well, but he really doesn't want to get the. ready us involved in the war. he's talked about the dangers of nuclear war. he recognizes what could happen, you know, in terms of ukraine, russia, if that went into a war with nato. so i think this is very real. again, he doesn't have a clear philosophy exactly how to make it happen, but i think we should give him credit that more than either get a pre leased recent president. certainly joe biden. he really worries about these issues in a way that the others haven't. i feel like i'm a bit like a judge of all the time over here. if anyone's watching is well cost,

cuz i often it's because image photo congressman this as well as i'm going to ask you the question basically on saturday 0 and he's he was more optimistic than anyone could have hoped about to trump. the ability to control this cabinet that he's appointed, but does it just take one piece of paper from his new c i a boss if he's confirmed radcliffe to work with john ashcroft to say oh iran is behind and as, as a nation attempt, actually they already tried to head on and it takes how much for rubio just say, oh my doro is doing this in venezuela, or waltz as national security advisor. to say something about, i want all the to be some kind of blow back full of the content and catastrophic record of the, by the ministration, whether it be outside the weapons, coming all the way from syria. now that, that's the legacy, the obama years hitting, hitting the homeless, the united states. so then the own weapons and not season ukraine hitting the home

. all it takes is that, and doesn't it just throw trump, of course, or is the savvy enough to realize you will be, be, doesn't want to be played again? was soon said coming out of his 1st administration, he realized as he was played, he realizes, people use this. i think it's one reason he wants tulsa galbraith, that intelligence that have tulsa gabbert is there. she was very likely to take a different view and where a lot very likely to be more wary and helping kind of boast or him in terms of where you look for the people who are doing what you watch. and you look for the folks trying to manipulate you, we're not sure that concerns. i worry there are too many around is that you hate to think of both the secretary state and the national security advisor. then if you're tossing the c i a director. if they decide to come up with a common front, is he prepared to bucks um? but he certainly again, if we look at the way he took on that yahoo radio button claims, of course is all faith bite and claim to be all this is terrible. we need to,

you'll get a cease fire, but the applied no pressure at all. you know, the deals that they've talked about and which we know is one that one it could have been had months ago with the us to put pressure on that. yahoo! and it didn't, and from every thing we say is the trump actually did. so, you know, benjamin that, you know, is one who got to spend a lot of time saying you should go to work with the wrong. you've got to do all this other stuff. it looks to me you might get ahold of trump recognizes them. so yeah, no worries coming from. that's not my policy. so i'm hopeful and then again, we need to be very cautious how donald trump is a very, an acquired taste is unique and the way he does things. but that uniqueness gives us an opportunity. we certainly haven't had the last 4 years or the 8 years before the 1st trump administration. yeah, the legacy of the vitamin genocide is going to be a long one, especially in this region. but since you refer to it again, i don't know whether it's is higher, but there can sign

a little bit. i mean in that deal he's possibly going against a dosing gab it at r. f. k junior were about zionists, and $0.01 and miriam adelson the big donor to his campaign. kenny, really 5, the even the, those voices, i mean, i know you believe that as far as i understand it goes to gab it poses a, a, a promise of something different and something truly make america great again is regards foreign policy and therefore on policy does it show how independent jump intends on me. why i wouldn't bounce here is the truck realizes he showed his bonus, eats. there is no, is really can come to him and say you're selling god, israel, he's going to say, look, i move the capital dress. well, i did this, i did that you, i came up with that now deal to century plan that really sold the palestinians out . but again, so you know, i did all this stuff for his or you can accuse me of that. but he has at some level,

i think some credibility, and it looks to me like he's decided to use that credibility. and we may very well there. may. i remember one moment in the 2016 campaign he talked about the importance of fairness to the palestinians. i got a sentiment you didn't usually hear american presidential candidates talk about that disappear and he kind of went off of what it is, a very strong pro israel, whatever they want mode. but then you're going to look back at that and think, well maybe you get buried with getting him, as he says, what's happening in the west bank today. he saw the rubble. you know, then, i mean, it could have been a nuclear war of the destruction and gone so that i have to believe this had an impact on him. and it, while he might have american saying it doesn't really matter, of course is real, how to do it. if he's looking at the death toll, he's looking of what remains. my guess is that that probably touched him. and that may very well be part of this notion that we need to cease fired. we need it now.

and it was ronald reagan and they wrote robert regular with lebanon. who did that is roland martin, and i can beg of, you know, where it is real headed, invaded horrible stuff in lebanon and ranking, basically said stop it. and they do know that had an impact on israel. so maybe your trump looked back on that. and so yeah, there was a chance. yeah, you can be very conservative. you can be in favor of israel. but you can also say in this world, stop killing civilians. yeah, that's what, that's what reagan did in the, in that event i saw that already the attorney general know many pam bundy was being attacked for the f b. i know many guys could tell saying that to be some people that have lived in the past been to be brought to justice. do you think uh there will be some kind of uh, of bringing to justice of all the people, not only that of light about the trump administration, the rush or gate hoax, but also those people that destroyed the ukraine deal, which came there was

a deal into a key in march 2022 forest johnson m a 6 apparently involved. i mean, the, and they going to go over all of that while they are trying to forge be so that never again, can us policy be a abrogated for, to the benefit know of the american people. it's hard to know exactly where he wants to go with us. i think he certainly would like to go after people he believes, broke the law in going after him in terms of what they did on policy. you know, and i, what i would hope is that he might kind of break this up into 2 different incense groups. one group is to investigate, recognizing this problem in out a formal legal issue here and what you can indict someone. but you certainly want to investigate in the suck, it would be go after people who really have it would appear committed, perjury, lied and whatnot. and we should know about what happened in terms of, you know, when i, a whole bunch of, you know,

these security officials came together in 2020 saying, you know, 100 biden's all laptop. no, no, that wasn't his, that's the russian did this information. and then after the election, the new york times runs the story, is it? oh, guess what? it looks like that was really a 100 by this, after all. well, you know, one of the, all these security officials, in terms of security agencies and stuff doing it would appear jumping into a presidential campaign. so those are places where i think you probably at least want to investigate. yeah, i think he wants to be careful how far he pushes prosecution and you know, he's talked about it, but i certainly haven't seen that as being a big emphasis of his, you know, the last couple of months. so we'll have to see where they go. i mean, as to, as of the f b, i arrive of justice department of the attorney general. i mean, she's a, it strikes me as a measured person in terms of her background doesn't look like somebody who's going to go off and do crazy things. and that's what he needs somebody to measure to

complete the appointment. doug, rather i'll stop you that more from the full, the specialist as and do as president only reagan after this break the hello and welcome to across the full board. here we discuss the wheel in the

welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the former special assistant us present roll reagan and senior fellow at the cato institute. doug, find the a doug guy, then depart one, you mentioned a 100 by the laptop. i should say, going underground on us election day, some time back had rudy giuliani on an air full of air, new york. and i'm afraid to say even we couldn't believe the laptop that he showed on this program. i think we can be a, forgive him for that because it was such a explosive story. but when it comes to bringing to just as all those who lied about to try to make out, it didn't happen that there was no role of dividing. so crime family as regards ukraine and the censorship that takes place in your country. do you expect the expect trumpet to really reject your country again so that it abides by the 1st

amendment a game. and we don't see that kind of censorship that has gone on for years now in violation gross violation someone say of your constitution as well. i think we're certainly going to see action taken to prevent the government agencies from pressuring digital companies to suddenly censor stuff. and we've seen progress on this, i guess i think the mirror election of trump and the recognition the trump was elected . yeah. mean, he actually won the popular vote as well as the electronic college to anyone looking at that election, but seeing virtually every demographic group, including minorities moving towards trump, didn't really put a message in there to whether you called at the deep state, whatever you want to call it, the american people are tired of this, so we say facebook mean, oh my goodness, the notes here and commenting about, well, the election kind of shows some things you know, and so much for kind of our monitoring and everything else. that suddenly fact

checking by the biotech checkers is getting is going out, i think is a very important step. and my hope is that we're going to see some others follow the suit. and i, this is a obvious place for the justice department in terms of, as you indicate, a lot of these are things where they try to get around the 1st amendment by saying, oh, it's not as it's a private company, but where you have government putting that pressure on and we certainly saw that with facebook. that's the place the justice department can go in. and again, at the very least, investigation highlighting this, pointing out how dangerous this is to potentially new legislation with republicans in control of both houses of congress with the president. this would be a place to put new federal rules in, you know, as government agents can't do this of the, your appointments can't do that. so i'm, i'm hopeful because you're quite right. what's extraordinary is a country that's always had robust environment for free speech. what we started

going on in the last few years has been extraordinary and not regions and all the docs robo la galks. i can be like a bunch of just be forgiven, even though they knew they were being pressured by the government. so they weren't really private companies, they were to acting as a government agents. they should just be forgiven. you think it's that easy for these people to me for giving off to the lives they told about trump, and they attempted subversion of the drum, but the policy of shed your, as it was when forgiven. forget, i think the problem here is it's not at all clear there's any legal remedy, but i think this is where you shame them. and you take this dr. berg and you say, what's nice of, you know, turned around on this. but how do we put in roles that ensure this doesn't happen again? and you use his example, and you should go out now to the other digital companies and say, okay, you know, what about youtube? what about amazon? what about kind of go down the list? you know that we,

we know this is happening. we've already had the confession from soccer bird. when are you all going to come play? i mean, it was so useful. it turns out you and had, you know, had twitter, we're now ex, taken over because we got to find out the details of how this is conducted and actually were suddenly ex, has become a truth teller rather than basically a captive of the deep state. it's certainly better than it was, but google youtube still, as far as we know using algorithms to suppress yes of the kind of the views that the american people, as you say, vote is in a popular vote. i don't know whether they could break it up like bell telephone or, or something. google and companies like that. clearly they pose a danger to a free speech in the power that concentrated in the board of google. you know, it's hard, you know, there are other search engines out there, so you can argue that there's a marketplace. if i google's gotten such

a share. yeah. and how would that government attract is that government defense contract is amazon is one. google is what they, what for the pen to get for p takes f x rays. that's the only way i can control. i mean, is that that is, that is a, that's and it shows the problem of the military industrial complex. i mean, eyes narrow is very pressure and it has warnings where i mean, universities, you know, kind of your defense department funding. this is pervasive and you're right. it takes ages, you know, turns agents into something other than private entities. if they rely so heavily on the feds, and then it's hard for them to say no, when you know whoever the president or any of his minions call up. and lo and behold, we see what they do to the american people. you see, if he really does try to get a piece with retro over ukraine, perhaps restarts start in the i in the f treaties and so on and tries to seek peace in this way. he's simple changes. he wants to open up the j f. k papers, which some believe may show

a government duplicity even far beyond that already suspected. i mean, would they not try and kill it? and does he, does he do think fear that they will try and kill him for opposing this? as you say, i, the military industrial complex that i've never himself was do weeks to fight. you know, it's a legitimate concern. i mean, we saw what would appear to have been the incompetence of the part of the secret service. i mean, very lucky, you survived that one as, as nation attempt. and then there was a course the 2nd where they assessed and setting something up and they got to him before he fired a shot. but i mean the extraordinary blunders. and again, what, you know, there are people who think that that was intended. i don't, i think it was in confidence, but one could understand why he'd have to worry that though there is so many who are offended by his policies that uh, who knows what they might try in certainly from the military industrial standpoint . they want the words to keep going. the worst thing for them to would be to have

peace, you know, break out the not have a reward ordering all. ready extra munitions? i mean obviously headset hasn't been confirmed at the time of this interview. do you believe that the estimate, i mean, rather than this as nation, it is usually so we have to exit a use obviously against trump himself. go to do christmas daily on my 6 agent, who i don't know might they might need to look into him. do you think josie gavin will be confirmed? i mean, you've seen the kind of level of propaganda that she is somehow working for vladimir putin in between being in the full i'm not sure what, what was your personal reaction to that, that kind of scare tactics throughout and you'll try to get it as opposed to it's grotesque stuff. i mean, whenever i point out how, you know, data officials, american officials help set out, you know, this tragic ward, you know, it's all. yeah. those are pollutants, talking points, and i tell people the issue is not, was there, put in is talking points. the question is as a to the truth to the deal. if you're not able to criticize your own leaders and

point out where they have wonder need blundered in a way where we're talking about tens or hundreds of thousands of debt because of their blunders. that uh, yeah, this is a real problem. none of them. what the truth out. yeah, yeah, and we see, and i mean, no, i think it's the point is accused of russia of wanting to have terrorist attacks on airplanes. mean just looks to be like just another attempt to try to prevent some sort of the. ready shade so much, you throw anything out there. i mean, we know when they were accusing russia of having blown up it's on pipeline. i wrote an article at the time saying this is nonsense and it was published, but it was published with a priest script that said, you know, this is only because the writers viewpoint, we publish lots of different stuff. they didn't put that on any other article. i wrote, they never put that on any other article by any one that i'm aware of. you know, it shows the sensitivity there, that you even people who are supposedly part of

a free, perhaps get very nervous about talking about the truth. so he asked the where i hope you start so heavy. that is make these disclosures, you know, kind of allow this stuff to come out there do this early on. so you've got it down as opposed to them thinking they can prevent it. you want to do this early and basically bring out everything that's there and then that's the way to undermine them and talk about further disclosures. yeah. see more i just came on this show to talk about his revelations about the north stream pipeline bombing. do you think we'll see any justice as regards that operation? probably not because it's been ca, but will we see any, just as brought about to the people and structures involved in getting the united states a treasury basically involved in killing defacto so many hundreds of thousands of ukrainian people on an altar of uh and then a failed nato expansion as well. you certainly should. and again,

he's talked about, he recognizes the role of nato. so this is a perfect opportunity for him to move forward and say, never again. are we going to do this? you know, never, you know, that you can talk about your american exceptionalism of what america needs to do for its own security. and that's a potential for him to say what was done in europe was not that and point out how the new american foreign policy. y'all can be assertive on the part of the united states. but the how do you, i should be very much against wars and recognizing how it's over the actions can help promote that. so i think he should take the lead on that he recognizes the truth and that's when the advantages with him going. okay, i just finally indications that he hasn't said that he's definitely gonna resend biden's a permission to fire long range missiles the united states themselves at most go. keith callo gig seo of the rock coalition. provisional authority is the trump no

many right regarding you. great. i mean, how long is he going to last be the colors conflicts, the air, how i don't know, maybe you know him. i mean, how long is he going the less and how is he did? they think they going to be boggling with the rush or overload arrangements. i'll attack permissions given by the biden administration. i mean, patients going to want more than that. surely of course, i'm sure there are some arguments being made. the trump should kind of pocket. this is leverage and use that an upcoming negotiations, but i think you're right. who is not going to give up what he uses a central interest for russia over something like this. and he's made it very clear the deal with these are years that they are prepared to retaliate and put and has a very good alternative, which is to say, you all do this. you know, we can make sure that the north koreans can target your country with icbm and we can help them with their projects. is that what you'd want? so i would assume there might be some hard bargaining to come that uh,

the web hand here is not held by the united states. frankly, i think it's the mosque as a much show you a better deal, but they can offer doug band. thank you. you're welcome. that's it for the show will be back with a brand new episode on saturday, but until then, keep in touch by the social media. if it's not sensitive in your country and had to a channel going up, you're going to be on rumble. they'll come to us new and old episodes of going undergrads. he is having the the see the silver. so the somebody

how can it be that um, the ship to the middle east from a country whose top officials constantly complain about shortages of munitions and military equipments. through a little bit of boston llc, or even maybe a little in your system with low grade level, nominal facility or some of those other slash we i'm about to the easiest and it was one of the easiest number, mobile bubbles, a sort of wellness that will kind of the piece that have gone on now. well, why are weapons from ukraine spreading over the world to, to this country and to a major arms hub, will continue to bolster ukraine's and forces by rushing them occasionally use that they need to defend their country. the everyone knows very well that we don't sell but known as pineapples or any kind of children's toys. we sell weapons. yes, we're also known in the world as items dealers that we must not be ashamed of them

. the, to the hello and welcome to the cost on both ends. were all things we consider 9 peter a little because donald trump has a different in new grand strategy for american foreign policy. a policy approach that is a departure from the past. if so, then what can we in the world expect to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, george samuel in budapest. he has a pod cast or at the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow we have marks level that he is an international relations and security analyst, a gentleman cross socrates and effect. that means you can tell me anytime you want, and i would appreciate it proudly start out with mark. and he can.