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the promotion, it was on russian. i buy crane china, but i one could today signal what donald trump has gold, the beginning of a golden age, what tricks to the military industrial complex have to subvert the 47th presidents of the usa as easy know, get rated in washington dc. joining me again from the us capital is doug band out for my special assistance you as president ronald reagan and as senior fellow at the washington think tank the cato institute a. doug, thanks so much for coming back on to 44 years ago today that your boss 0 boss reagan was inaugurated. i mean you were in the belt way on saturday is going underground. i spoke to a former congressman, dennis consented to rand, actually a presidential candidate for our of k junior, who's been appointed to a trump cabinet position, was going to be in the government. what do you get from? what's your feeling about how trump is going to rain in the appointees that despise him? perhaps based on what you've seen and confirmation hearings. and these very is some

would say, if you, if you're a big mega republican, very strange appointments like marco rubio is national security advisor, welts and even is new added to ca radcliffe. always nominees. well, i certainly assume he learned his lesson from the 1st i administration it when you nominate people, if you don't monitor them closely, they go off and do their own. the agenda part of this i think is the fact that he's really not consistent in his thinking. he's, you know, he's willing to intervene at different points. we've seen him blustering about greenland and canada, panama canal. you know, so as it was in, he doesn't come to this with a clear, simple, 80 ology. but he certainly wants have done his way. and i think we've seen what appears to be a tougher stance towards benjamin netanyahu. for example, the, anyone expected. so trump has the ability to surprise. so i think this go around,

he's learned he's got to tell his folks, do it his way. the question is, can he manage that? that can keep the attention span? can he focus on it? is he willing to switch them out if they don't do that? you know, all of these are unanswered questions, but he's not us that he's not a dummy. and he certainly saw what happened. the 1st call around his commented about john bolton and others undermined him that data almost any opportunity. so one has to believe he's taking that into account. he's been much more disciplined coming into this a larger ration of the previous one in terms of making appointments, early, choosing people, including controversial ones, whether it's robert kennedy junior, whether it's chelsea gabbert, you know, that he certainly seems to know what he's doing this occasion. yeah, you mentioned the guy that sees 5 plan, i mean taking on that lobby the israel o v in washington dc is quite a big 1st and some people might not have expected to steve wick off. big zion is to

have done that. and we will, we see we heard from bite and trying to say, hey, moving, credit, tragic credit, arguably over the bodies of so many, most the women and children. um, do you uh, do you think that gives us a sign that he's willing to take on some of the toughest lobbies they're all because clearly, i mean it's obviously also the end of us read the eyes in the military industrial complex, which i mean the, i've seen some of them as companies share price is declining. e. do you think that he wants peace is the really the piece president has, but he campaigned, as i think he is now in saying that that doesn't mean that he doesn't want to wander around the world doing things and that he's not willing to kind of try to a certain american power and make threats day you said greenland about tomorrow, actually you might want to go into that because, i mean,

there are strategic decisions. that's right. i mean, almost any american security analyst would say, there are reasons for the united states to care about what happens to both the panama canal and greenwood. but they have virtually none of them would say that you kind of show up and threaten denmark that you might seize greenland, or you seem to be implying that will use military for us if we want to take the panama canal back. but of course, part of that i think, is seeking leverage, which shows that he has this unilateral as impulse to him, where the us is a great power that needs to do what it needs to do. but i think part of that is he really doesn't want to go to war. and i think we have to give him credit. the way he talks, for example, is there he talks about a lot loss of life in ukraine and how terrible that is. well, frankly, most american presidents don't worry an awful lot about people dying in other countries. george w bush never spent a lot of time lamenting the hundreds of thousands of it. rockies who died after the

us invasion and the okay, 8 years ago and trump randy gave a foreign policy speech in that at one point he talked about aggression and criticized us policy in places like a rock. so i think buried within trump's bluster really is a desire to make sure americans aren't dying and stupid wars, and he'd prefer other people not die as well. but he really doesn't want to get us involved in the war. he's talked about the dangers of nuclear war. he recognizes what could happen to know in terms of ukraine, russia, if that went into a war with nato. so i think this is very real. again, he doesn't have a clear philosophy exactly how to make it happen. but i think we should give him credit to more than either get a pre leased recent president. certainly joe biden. he really worries about these issues in a way that the others haven't. i feel like i'm a bit like a judge of all the time over here. if anyone's watching is well cost,

cuz i often it's because in his folder, congressman this as well as i'm going to ask you the question basically on saturday 0 and he's he was more optimistic than anyone could have hoped about to trump. the ability to control this cabinet that he's appointed but doesn't it just take one piece of paper from his new c. i a boss if he's confirmed radcliffe, who works at john ashcroft to say, oh iran is behind and as, as a nation attempt, actually they already tried to head on and it takes the how much for rubio just say, oh my doro is doing this in venezuela. or waltz as national security advisor to say something about i want all the to be some kind of blow back full the content, catastrophic record of the, by the ministration, whether it be outside the weapons, coming all the way from syria. now that, that's the legacy, the obama years hitting, hitting the homeless, the united states. so then the own weapons and not season ukraine hitting the over all it takes, is that and doesn't it just throw trump off course?

or is the savvy enough to realize you will be, be, doesn't want to be played again? was soon said coming out of his 1st administration, he realized as he was played, he realized as people use this, i think it's one reason he wants tulsa galbraith, that intelligence that have tulsa gabbert is there. she's very likely to take a different view and where a lot, very likely to be more wary and helping kind of bolster him in terms of where you look for the people who are doing what you watch and you look for the folks trying to manipulate you we're not sure that concerns. i worry there are too many around is that you hate to think of both the secretary state down the national security advisor. then if you're toss of a c i a director. if they decide to come up with a common front, is he prepared to bucks out? but he's certainly again, if we look at the way he took on that yahoo radio button claims, of course, is all a bite and claim to be all this is terrible. we need to, you'll get a cease fire,

but the applied no pressure at all. you know, the deal that deal they've talked about and which we know is one that one it could have been had months ago with the us to put pressure on that. yahoo! and it didn't, and from every thing we say is the trump actually did. so, you know, benjamin not, you know, is one who got to spend a lot of time saying you should go to work with iran. you've got to do all this other stuff. it looks to me, you might get a hold of a trump recognizes them, says yeah, no worries, coming from. that's not my policy. so i'm hopeful and then again, we need to be very cautious how donald trump is a very and acquired taste is unique in the way it does things. but that uniqueness gives us an opportunity. we certainly haven't had the last 4 years or the 8 years before the 1st jump in those race. yeah, the legacy of the binding genocide is going to be a long one, especially in this region. but since you refer to it again, i don't know whether it's is arab american sign a little bit. i mean in that deal he's possibly going against

a dosing gab at our f. k. junior, we're about zionists, and $0.01 model. some of the big donor to his campaign, kenny really 5, the even the, those voices. i mean, i know you believe that the as far as i understand it was a gap, it poses a, a promise of something different and something truly make america great again is regards foreign policy and therefore on policy, does it show how independent jump intends on me right, but what i wouldn't bear here is the truck realizes he showed his bonus evenings there is no is really can come to him and say you're selling god, israel, he's going to say, look, i move the capital dress. well, i did this, i did that. you i came up with that now deal to century plan that really sold the palestinians out. but you can say, you know, i did all this stuff for his or you can accuse me of that. but he has at some level,

i think some credibility, and it looks to me like he's decided to use that credibility. and we may very well there. may i remember one moment in the 2016 campaign he talked about the importance of fairness to the palestinians. i got a sentiment you didn't usually hear american presidential candidates talk about and then that disappear. and you kind of went off of what it is, a very strong pro israel, whatever they want mode. but then you're going to look back at that and think, well maybe you get buried with in him as he sees what's happening in the west bank today. he saw the rubble. you know, then, i mean, it could have been a nuclear, was the destruction and gone so that i have to believe this had an impact on him. and it, while he might have americans saying, it doesn't really matter. of course it is real. how to do it. if he's looking at the death total, he's looking your remains. my guess is that that probably touched him. that may very well be part of this notion that we need to cease fired. we need it now. and it was ronald reagan and they wrote robert regular with lebanon,

who did that to israel and martin, and i can beg, of, you know, or the israel had invaded horrible stuff in lebanon and ranking basically said, stop it. and they do know that had an impact on israel, so maybe your trump looked back on that. and so yeah, there was a chance. yeah, you can be very conservative. you can be in favor of israel. but you can also say in this world, stop killing the civilians. yeah, that's what, that's what reagan did in the, in that event i saw that already the attorney general know many pam bundy was being attacked for the f b. i know many guys could tell saying that to be some people that have lived in the past been to be brought to justice. do you think uh there will be some kind of uh, of bringing to justice of all the people, not only that of light about the trump administration, the russia gate hoax, but also those people that destroyed the ukraine deal, which came, there was a deal in turkey in march 2022 forest johnson m a 6 apparently involved. i mean,

the, and they going to go over all of that while they are trying to forge be so that never again, can us policy be a abrogated for, to the benefit, not of the american people. it's hard to know exactly where he wants to go with us . i think he certainly would like to go after people when he believes, broke the law in going after him in terms of what they did on the policy. you know, and i, what i would hope is that he might kind of break this up into 2 different incense groups. one group is to investigate, recognizing this problem in out a formal legal issue here in which you can indict someone. but you certainly want to investigate and the 2nd would be, go after people who really have it would appear committed, perjury, lied and whatnot. then we should know about what happened in terms of, you know, when i, a whole bunch of, you know, these security officials came together in 2020 saying, you know,

100 biden's all laptop. no, no, that wasn't his that's rushing deep. this information then after the election, the new york times runs a story, is it? oh guess what? it looks like that it was really a 100 vitals after all. well, you know, one of the, all the security officials in terms of security agencies and stuff doing it would appear jumping into a presidential campaign. so those are places where i think you probably at least want to investigate. yeah, i think he wants to be careful how far he pushes prosecution and you know, he's talked about it, but i certainly haven't seen that as being a big emphasis of his, you know, the last couple of months. so we'll have to see where they go. i mean, it's true as of the f b i right of, of justice department of the attorney general. i mean, she's like, it strikes me as a measured person in terms of her background. does it look like somebody who is going to go off and do crazy things? and that's what he needs? is somebody to measure to, to the appointment. rather i'll stop you that more from the full,

the specialist and do as far as the reagan after this break, the, the, the gym. and so just bear with me. the other one will taking the picture. they were proud of the muscle by the way, to go in your mouth, because i didn't recommend your opinion or no, but he got got a with or i. so it was you like you on google, more guy and with then almost a week ago, and then we'll get to under the, under the general say to us, love the street. but this, this in the last, there's never been to the, did you purchase a i, did you please give us

a time to time guys fashion hoya to desire just to give some of it. sure. extra us us to give v as in, i'm sure this is a very bold decision by the gym and government to even stop. because when the agreement was reached, gena, they did small divisions and mall and got more questions or more of those the are is using to pay us what they are giving us is go to the position congress. and now we have not been support. you've called what has been happening here. it will open the ponder as box the next thing it will be them for then also have to pay the hello and welcome to cross the full board. here we discussed some real in

the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the form is medical assistance you as president ronald reagan and senior fellow at the cato institute, doug planned to doug guy. and then the final one you had mentioned on dividing the laptop, i should say, going underground on us election day. some time back, had rudy giuliani on add them there for them in new york and i'm afraid to say even we couldn't believe the laptop that he showed on this program. i think we can be forgiven for that because it was such a explosive story. but when it comes to bringing to just as all those who lied about to try to make out, it didn't happen that there was no role of dividing. so crime family as regards ukraine and the censorship that takes place in your country. do you expect

the expect trump to really reject your country again so that it abides by the 1st amendment a game. and we don't see that kind of censorship that is going on for years now in violation. gross violations on would say of your constitution as well. i think we're certainly going to see action taken to prevent the government agencies from pressuring digital companies to suddenly censor stuff. and we've seen progress on this, i guess. i think the mirror election of trump and the recognition the truck was elected. yeah, i mean, he actually won the popular vote as well as the electronic college to anyone looking at that election, but seeing virtually every demographic group, including minorities moving towards trump. i didn't really put a message in there to whether you called at the deep state. ready ever you want to call it, the american people are tired of this, so we say facebook, right? oh, my goodness, the notes here and commenting about, well,

the election kind of shows some things you know, and so much for kind of our monitoring and everything else. that suddenly fact checking by the biotech checkers is getting is going out, i think is a very important step. and my hope is that we're going to see some others follow the suit. and this is a obvious place for the justice department in terms of, as you indicate, a lot of these are things where they try to get around the 1st amendment by saying, oh, it's not as it's a private company, but where you have government putting that pressure on and we certainly saw that with facebook, that's the place the justice department can go in. and again, at the very least, investigation highlighting this, pointing out how dangerous this is to potentially new legislation with republicans in control of both houses of congress with the president. this would be a place to put new federal rules in the government. agents can't do this of the your appointments can't do that. so i'm, i'm hopeful because you're quite right. what's extraordinary is

a country that's always had robust environment for free speech. what we started going on in the last few years has been extraordinary and hot regions and all the galks rove oligarchs. i can be like a bunch of just be forgiven, even though they knew they were being pressured by the government. so they weren't really private companies, they were to acting as a government agents. they should just be forgiven. you think it's that easy for these people to me for giving off to the lives they told about a trump, and they attempted subversion of the trump. uh, the policy have shed your as it was when for given forget, i think the problem here is it's not at all clear. there's any legal remedy. but i think this is where you shame them and you check the sucker burden you say, well it's nice that you know, turned around on this. but how do we put in rules that ensure this doesn't happen again? and you use this example, and you should go out now to the other digital companies and say ok, you know, what about youtube? what about amazon? what about kind of go down the list?

you know that we, we know this is happening. we've already had the confession from dr. berg. when are you all going to come play? i mean, it was so useful, it turns out to have had, you know, had twitter or no x taken over because we got to find out the details of how this is conducted in action was suddenly ex has become a truth teller rather than basically a captive of the deep state, it's certainly better than it was, but google youtube still, as far as we know using algorithms to suppress yes of the kind of the views that the american people, as you say, vote in a popular votes. i don't know whether they could break it up like bell telephone or, or something. google and companies like that. clearly they pose a danger to a free speech in the power that concentrated in the board of google. you know, it's hard, you know, there are other search engines out there,

so you can argue that there's a marketplace, the fact google's gotten such a share and how would that government attract is, are they government defense contract as amazon is one? google is what they, what for the pen to get for p takes f x rays. that's the only way i can pull, i mean is that, that is that, is it, that's and it shows a problem of the military industrial complex. i mean, eisenhower was very pressure in his warnings were, i mean, universities, you know, kind of the defense department funding. this is pervasive and you're right. it takes agent the turns agents into something other than private entities. if they rely so heavily on the fads. and then it's hard for them to say no, when you know whoever the president or any of his minions call up. and lo and behold, we see what they do to the american people. you see, if he really does try to get a piece with retro over ukraine, perhaps restarts start in the i n f treaties and so on and tries to seek peace in this way. he simple changes. he wants to open up the j. f k papers,

which some believe may show the government duplicity even far beyond that already suspected. i mean, would they not try and kill it? and does he, does he do think fair that they will try and kill him for opposing this? as you say, i, as in the military industrial complex that i, as in our, himself, was 2 weeks to fight. you know, it's a legitimate concern. i mean, we saw what appeared to have been the incompetence of the part of the secret service. i mean, very lucky, he survived that one association of deb. then there was of course the 2nd with the assassins setting something up and they got to him before he fired a shot. but i mean the extraordinary blunders. and again, what, you know, there are people who think that that was intended. i don't, i think it was in confidence, but one couldn't understand why he'd have to worry that though there is so many who are offended by his policies that uh,

who knows what they might try in certainly from the military industrial standpoint . they want the words to keep going. the worst thing for them to would be to have peace break out and not have a reward ordering all. ready extra munitions? i mean obviously headset hasn't been confirmed at the time of this interview. do you believe that the smear, i mean, rather than this as a nation, it is usually swear tactics that a use obviously against trump himself go to do christmas daily on my 6 agent, who i don't know might they might need to look into him. do you think josie guy would, will be confirmed? i mean, you've seen the kind of level of propaganda that she is now working for vladimir putin in between being in the full i'm not sure what, what was your personal reaction to that? that kind of smear tactic the throughout and you'll to get it as opposed to it's grotesque stuff. i mean, whatever, i point out how your data officials, american officials help set out, you know, this tragic ward, you know, it's all you're, those are put in. it's talking points and i tell people that issue is not,

was there put in the talking points or questions of a to the truth to the deal. if you're not able to criticize your own leaders and point out where they have wonder need blundered in a way where we're talking about tens or hundreds of thousands of debt because of their blunders. that uh, no, this is a real problem. none of them want the truth out. yeah, yeah, and we seen, i mean, now i think it's, the poland is accused of russia of wanting to have terrorist attacks. and airplanes mean just looks to me like just another attempt to try to prevent some sort of any . ready issues, so you throw anything out there. i mean, we know when they were accusing russia of having blown up it's on pipeline. i wrote an article at the time saying this is nonsense and it was published, but it was published with a priest script that said, you know, this is only because the writers viewpoint, we publish lots of different stuff. they didn't put that on any other article. i wrote and they never put that on any other article by anyone that i'm aware of. you

know, it shows the sensitivity there, that you even people who are supposedly part of a free, perhaps getting very nervous about talking about the truth. so he asked the where i hope you started so heavy, that is make these disclosures, you know, kind of allow this stuff to come out there do this early on. so you've got it down as opposed to them thinking they can prevent it. you want to do this early and basically bring out everything that's there and then that's the way to undermine them and talk about further disclosures. yeah. see more i just came on this show to talk about his revelations about the north stream pipeline bombing. do you think we'll see any justice as regards that operation? probably not because it's been c i a, but a will we see any justice board about to the people instructors involved in getting the united states a treasure, a basically involved in killing defacto so many hundreds of thousands of ukrainian people on an altar of uh and then

a failed nato expansion as well. you certainly should. and again, he's talked about, he recognizes the role of nato. so this is a perfect opportunity for him to move forward and say, never again. are we going to do this? you know, never, you know, that you can talk about your american exceptionalism of what america needs to do for its own security. and that's a potential for him to say what was done in europe was not that and point out how the new american foreign policy. y'all can be assertive on the part of the united states. but the how do you, i should be very much against wars and recognizing how it's over the actions can help promote that. so i think he should take the lead on that he recognizes the truth and that's when the advantages with him. so we know, okay, i just finally indications that he hasn't said that he's definitely gonna resend biden's a permission to fire long range missiles the united states themselves at most go.

keith callo gig seo of the rock coalition. provisional authority is the trump no many right regarding you crate. i mean, how long is he gonna last be the colors conflicts? the air, how i don't know, maybe you know him. i mean, how long is he going the less and how is he did they think they going to be boggling with the rusher over a long range missile attack permissions given by the biden administration. i mean patient is going to want more than that. surely, of course, i'm sure there are some arguments being made. the trump should kind of pocket this as leverage and use that an upcoming negotiations. but i think you're right, holding is not going to give up what he is essential interest for russia over something like this. and he's made it very clear the deal with these are years that they are prepared to retaliate and put and has a very good alternative, which is to say, you all do this. you know, we can make sure that the north koreans can target your country with icbm and we

can help them with their projects. is that what you want? so i would assume there might be some hard bargaining to come that uh the web had here is not held by the united states. frankly, i think it's a mosque as a much show you a better deal, but they can offer doug band. thank you. you're welcome. that's it for the show will be back with the brand new episode on saturday, but until then, keep in touch by the social media. if it's not sensitive in your country and had to a channel going undergoing tv hon, they'll come to us new and old episodes of going undergrads. he is having the, [000:00:00;00]

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