we are now a form of a position that tells you a very good story about them coming to us. so what are your future plans of going forward, especially the simple to take over the governor of the country. that is the immediate of just to actually one to me as soon as possible. you are a prominent antea party to a political figure in south africa who has been part of the african national congress, which has recently expelled you from that political party. we know that you've challenged this issue. i just want to get what your views of because globally, you have been know to be part of the amc. whether it is a long story about that. as that question. you put your c making

think to purchase a very long, kind of an answer. especially as we have said, i joined a and said to my young age and said, because even before, quite honestly, i lied to the people who had to make me a member of the for the initial congress. i was a very young just 17. when i joined the reason why i did so because the agencies and organizations that are this deputies to liberate the portal for this country. and it was his deputies to, by the great leadership of the people use of ethics when there was a t a but they kind of behavior that he managed to

from the british and the contents of the, the and go boil it became very clear that the whites who had come to south africa with taking over the country in terms of governing its doing level to fit into the black lead. as in south africa was included among others tradition that he does live in charge of the country that was taken from them. but secondly, the past us were preaching here as well as our land and people who came together to say we cannot be taken out of the participation of them in this country. as the whites had decided

to do those within the lead in part or this with the british who had the to lead to with the of the car on us to allow themselves to take out the black people from and the leadership seeing instead of it and it was through this much of that led to the legs to send the test as w one pack that we defend our own kind of incense. and that's how the organization would come visit his deputies. and therefore every one wasn't been late that one the because life is life, i'm sure the other political part does that to maggie in one form of the ad to do the fest. the thing was that we should be out of an activity

that determines those whom us around the country. it was a deliberate thing done by the people who just as i found us here, living in peace. and that's why the started the headed to start in the do for the in session at that time. now if that is a case, the amc therefore was my organization. and i grew within that part. and a 4th and i joined the army when the medicaid to fight, which was now more the con us who and now saying of the they want for the 1st of the elections, they said that they were going to apply what belongs to them in terms of the meetings that the recommended zip recommend is not

a complete human being only wides way in human beings. and that led to us lead due to and i'm starting to fight in as it was. odom was to go back to way we were defending all countries from the beginning cause a long, very difficult and painful study of this country. now ones that was done. busy they indeed increased what was quotes for popularly known that the life in south africa between black and white was difference and to make the duplex city the paint. the seed is that the people who are white with superior fluid in philly and whatever. and therefore, ended up with

a situation where there was been, quote, up update that there was dividing the whites and blacks that they cannot be saved. and the a lot of details, how oppression increased from what did you put it? it should have made it kind of a thing that to is sort of just saying you he a we task by the end, the us, that kind of stuff. so that led us to become free. don't fight husbands, try good, and it becomes so jazz enabled as it is a long, long way to call. the main thing was i did set that for you must be free. who must be equal. we must have everything in the same way as the white

and the blacks. and therefore we had to sit and talk. how are we going to negotiate? and i think we agreed that to, to negotiate. and after negotiate, we, we make the country come together. it was, we've been fighting, killing one another as the one that i've many people it died didn't j, meadows or whatever. we had. the decision was taken, supported by the was that we need to bring peace inputs of the back to where it is supposed to be is it is act over that we decided the fest, tim fest with the very difficult to do with this was the end the end of the problem among us was too deep. so it would make the, for us to,

to be run in terms of government in the country by all of us. all of us black and white patches that we the we, the petite to lat number would then be the ones would be part of a complimented that to be put together. we've quoted government or from nationally unity at the time to unite these people have been 5 to 4 years. in other words, in the meant that in the which the agreements wouldn't be would be soft to allow us to come together to allow to accept to that we couldn't leave to get after that 1st, the case would have been allowed to potty the left after defense to

in the 2nd to the amc, the party we set up with the time. we did not know if it was red and one. yeah. what would we would be the one who did then determine how this country is that and the part to that managed was the amc, the freedom to for an example is a c document. if you look at the city, is it twice equal rights? that way we attended to india for the don't chat. what the systems had to say is, wasn't that attended to and do the fed to the for that was time. we're going to address these. but the issue was never address of the day is now. this is never been address instead we way going back. what's that other than going forward as this organization?

now, as the time went, it was wedding. we finally ended up with a situation where the lead that she but kate was not alone that you've been thinking about anything. if anything new to us that invests in many, many things as it kind of in a and see kind of and amc, i feel like kind of getting a political link to you at this point. his excellency, i do want you to touch on that issue then on that and see that you mentioned that has made this journey to this point which is expelling to which you will part of you join to an early age of 17 years old, which is now expelled you. i know you've tell us this issue. but what are your views about them? actually expanding that to like this?

because i want to, to have it to the scene, was people of times misinterpreted things say it really, that's what, and i'm going to come was that that was the beginning that to, i'm being challenged and then challenging people was part of this history to them to kind of where in a way or to get that, we had all agreed. what do we need to do? when with alicia point away. my colleagues were no longer moving. when i was as some putting the given an opportunity to be the president of this country . because i was beginning to implement what i fought for what a 2 decision to die for once a set it was criticize some even a put allegations of corruption under your tenure exec exec and

do not a single and has ever produced in a staples match that i stole anyway, is nothing you've been to a man demanded wasn't anything it has said today because the wrong that tells you that everything that was done was cool against me. probably in other people. because of to now with a guy to zoom and nobody has said, this is what is a my deed which was the wrong method. i have even go into prison when i've never even appeared before, you might just to let that load the guy. i said it was all cool. so i don't want to get into that to and i'm just heading away. i mean those would empower you are a political figure that has sole source going around the country. you would have insights and some intelligence as to who cooked it. i'm certain it was cool to buy those wedding tags. i don't want to be counting names of people. how many miles

are on the issue for me. they know it themselves would have been with him a lie to nose inevitably to day or so no. okay. in this a health vision says there's been statistics that tara related to have increased. this is, even though upfront was in some of these regions in africa to a system combat the jihad. that's now the met, the president of france. mr. mccall has come out to say that some of these african countries i'm grateful for the assistance that they have given to fight in africa. no, i disagree. i disagree hotel. i'd seen that was seems funds came to court of nice of it has never made it. but if i talk about friends with this statement comes from, when friends was due quarter night,

they decided to leave the army power for the in any place that did they were in order to set precedent. even the dentist that was not seen for us to say thank to because they did not do what they were supposed to do. they decided that the resources, money would be determined in france on behalf of the africans who are free to. yeah. i don't know what is what friends things about it. we should have said thank you very much to to come on monday and use the day i and, and have the soul just this is what does it lead to, to this and the cause. so is it a wrong statement? don't agree with it, was it is not they have to us the,

the thing that says we are helping you to have a not to have denies does not agree that to we are free. we do what we want people who have just conducted quickly does what is in the, what they say with kind of have the money in france. we kind of have the soldiers from france here when we have what the whole that the need says because you the man is just okay. he does not know how to let people have suffered from white people, particularly defense. so i don't even want to debate to that to and that was the one it would take me to the debates deals at at $24.00, i'm busy dealing with the situation here with it, but it is in particular, but i just want to stay a little bit with regards to a funds. ted, i'm sure you agree with the statement that they've said,

claiming that's my cron is insulting the intelligence of african countries by insinuating that the ungrateful, i'm sure you agree with that state, of course is i'm agree and i did not want to get into the details i just wanted to say that's a little piece of wrong we have suffered since the color nice us after this day. that is what the, that's what that was saying that there was, i was answering the question, but it is part of quite white's think about as i'm sure you also agree with senegal and i've always coast decision to withdrawal the troops funds troops in, in the regions absolutely, i agree, totally. in fact, it is too late. they should have gotten a long time ago because it is the wrong. why are the forces of a french country station in the of the country or somebody?

yes. why is because they think that it well for this and i thing that time is come, we can not blowing a wait for that. so you're saying africa shouldn't be seen as a powerful continent that can hold a shots for themselves. it sees it power for the continent only to step through by the colonize as cool as the, the quarter. nice, the nice you know more than way they thing we cannot see. recently the u. s. secretary of state was lambasted for the u. s. a stance when it comes to the israel from us will or genocide, a few me. what do you think of sold africa coming forward and defending the people of palestine and how it has gone about to do with that by even going as far as

finding a genocide case? no, i think that is an over the problem. we have that those little pressed, many is a go, i still pressed. those will be will see the power for just the using the how for an example, the old would looked at a country in the middle east. the way the things where someone, kids with kids in the was the civil civilized was absolutely sit and that's it. and that's it. even though they are for see other people to say they must accept the man that in which they presented the story, how they must all come to get. this is a problem that is phase the black people and also the people in the middle east.

that if it was never been, it is, or whether you have the united nations, it is said to deal with this much, this is affect it. and therefore, i don't to and to say whereas a nice man has spoken to because they all talk about around the, their own area of satisfaction, then not to worry about anybody is. and if you add you, they force the ceiling. we're not it right in this. go look here like this. go to was some people for them. have them. we stay in africa, africa has the last, a lot of it is us is taken by people from europe. and these didn't take them today is as if god said,

you're leaving the area. but i do go to of that to take what to one that company is a huge companies from outside of its own citizen says, and the good that it doesn't belong to them. so it's also the baltics, the resources that i in africa is that's it. and then they never bought it for the taking it for the day with mr. donald trump, president elect the president of america. do you think she's presidency? we'll see about a shift in policies related to these ongoing was which includes the from us and israel conflict with the i think the president of the united

states of america has said something with regards to the war in flash. right. very clear. i haven't had them about to come through other settings, whether that has been it clear seeing that there must be the end of that is or however he is one among the few who have said something that makes sense. i think he said, we cannot use the money to fight that will invest you when of go to food food in our condo, it can, i didn't know too many people have said so, but you have said you have said that when we take that would take note of that

because it is important but as to the buttons in the middle east and, and not just it doesn't. i don't think i've had with it just into that to some of what it was as the seamless company that i haven't made. but mrs. speaking about mr . donald trump, he has recently made threats against a bricks. members, a briggs hit a switch. they in particular, you saw that because threatening them to impose tariff hikes if they've continued their relations with countries like russia and china. when you have such threats from the west on africa and how it conducts its business and how, like you say, deals with its resources with other countries. what do you think when you share those threats? no, that is part of the problem. we have part of the problem, we have why should a country?

so the 2 countries in africa as he was talking to this more boys. so come to this, i'm going to do x. why is it going to see something wrong? that why? because a country should do what it wants to do as i says. so that is a problem. i had been talking about all the time because you have a country with his own divorces and everything which says this country is i might look the ones you can do this with somebody as they're going to be in trouble. why that is to tell you something been wrong in the minute and weeks. big countries seats. is this the big country? is that, that small, the country that does say that to be the crop up and you know, it is as big as is what type of why should that happen?

why should a pass in flight to new a new take the own decision cover laces of some people they knew must be taken into some property. that's why that's why should that be the case? i don't think we need that. this is what we're saying is of again, we don't need, you know, when, so definitely i joined. thanks. we haven't talked about those much, that it was very important because among other things was to deal with this very issue that the countries that must be like in prison. and because of the worst is in a sense, dealing with these countries. and the attempt is that we cannot deal with now, is that correct? that's correct. but it's not something to do for them to try to

bring it quality part of the lives. and then they continue one day, not today that there was a deliberate why, who ended up with the war. and i see it is because it was in countries with chain to put down breaks. if you know, what did they beat and let to know medic endure. he even went to prison when he had no case case that was his deputies. this man is, he's out to now because they decided to say there's literally one that does deal with of the student or the too. also to set up to this, they change the, the party in the india and the forces that another part

must come in. so that to reduce the pad, that was joining the, that was probably, i moved that experience of that part of the lives in that was they moved in full finishing my tim was also to dealing with the brakes. they put to the new it's been passed. so media to say china was going down, the cutting on me blah blah blah, lies and says, did that last year must be a tech part of that is part of, but it's is coming in to be we haven't talked about it as much as a lot because that is not been the issue to talk about, but i'm just saying you deal with wisdom countries who are always causing

trouble, always making the people get into trouble when it is not supposed to be. now, what has happened to them? because they attended last year that she has said, sorry, well good the or the yeah. and to everyone. so is going to use direction money to know that change the word somewhere, because many other punches that often begin to say we have the brakes now has more with the $40.00 members. so not it only if you have a group in lead breaks, can you put in this into senate

oh, the couple of deena, both of us taking notes in this region. what are unique physicians of the people? this is the cause of bodies and gorges. joining us to find out how the rich local coal just size see the close products and services that have been passed down from generation to generation planning the of the me this one more to person. what is the decision you must always displayed on the 2nd, but to pull it out and you have them done by the most value of what we have done

the scale it will. but she really is, you know, we're going to be able to do music, but the issue the most the i will give you like what the she a little guy enough. are you the diagnosed? you go and even throw both of them good for the saw, the the back on the they've going, there's the guys that the sheet of going to get that it was saying was little bit. i know me the vintage with nearly money visits to own in space. or to see me then get up and get a little just the monday or they going this could they will gasket monday. did you want to give us a community dock? a part of this you by law. got to want to people. she's to go mean he goes empty, i'm the, i mean the must have gone through them. we a more thing danielle and she be the be i one of all the go done beyond already to not through the like it goes it, give a good. it will be the

the, the israel, the which is what is cooling, a major anti terrorist operation in the west side, killing 10, the apollo city input slowly alter the song to boot clauses. these biased, the change of humps and the one the shaky pays agreements. these palestinians were turning to the enclave, only to find the. let's see you wednesday that the 90 percent have gone says infrastructure has been destroyed. the complete and total destruction. there is no life at all in the north. the house is destroyed and reduced to rubble.