and they need before being transported each day, few of us are approved and i hope to sign the condition of the boys to see a swab. life is stag lane proving this was just one day for me, but many more are ahead for the thousands of volunteers here as they're not willing to stay away from the tragedy that hit the show unaffected. those who cool displaced home and with that every day, dedication, they make you pay for everyone. and especially of all as you know, all the from cross and all region of next to us. he's basically the deputy presidents all the republic of south africa on the as well, palestine conflicts, the multi polar well, the older and the budgeting level. so we're back in the mornings and best the i'm glad you spoke about fixed because i wanted to get your views the on some of

these african countries also wanting to be part of the bricks umbrella. and the notion and the probability of a, a bricks, currency which some even point to a deep dollarization which has threatened america. what do you think of that? i think that's absolutely wonderful. brakes is moving and we need the brakes we need but it's because briggs is not colored noisy. brakes is doing business relationship with everybody else. and i'm happy that many countries that some kind of does enough for the middle east have seen what needs to be that that is going to make, this would be a world with it kind of relationship that would make people not stop in other countries. why? so you know, that kind of, they don't know what to do with them,

and the governments of the king of fossil miley have accused ukraine of, i'm in rebels in the hell region. in particular. do you think that the international community is reacting to such a move or these allegations against cubes that the allegedly training rebels in the health region? and of course, i don't have the effects above that. but i could just make some comment about this, what this business you know, we in africa with lake city is william and beans was sold as an added to the comments where many people were killed in many ways with people the board and the president would do it every one to vote, deposit keys, whatever. there was

a fight against slavery. when the slave slave would assist in west stop fighting that lead. the whites realize it was too much with us. they then put something with a name that they give you. but to anyway, remember colonization colonization, i don't know what it means. we're quarter nice for them to live ready to color. nice to have been colonized colonization, what it meant. it extra you meant to be kind of does takes more countries just take that that now my country right. that's why we ended up

with color. nice something funny. right? and the is going to suit with us, whatever. or that in english like that in english or say in south africa and it say what table around it. we then decided to start fighting for a while, the buddies we are living in a wood which is a little upset that it cannot be allowed. we are, all human beings is not to do is more eyes and more noses in mo, most of the say, like kind we have the same respect to all of us. and therefore, in my view, breaks is an important element to change the walk. i want to go

back to the issue of palestine because it's an issue that the and see the to claim to have been part of from a young age is an a and c that has strongly supported a palestine. now when you look at the recent developments now, in relation to the seas via agreement, and do you think it's, it's going to last, given the fact that obviously south africa has been a supporter of guys. i do think that this particular seized by agreement will hold . i hope it, it, it should hold it. but this for me is, is it one site that was the man then we should have been done. not like the 1st so the last many times because it happened in the middle east, middle east. it did things. i always very complex and difficult.

if we were to have a quite a understanding of how we should leave among one another, they wouldn't be was it like that you knew where to go? what causes the was that is ins as well. how does the lives in of the guys that plays up to now because of his west the test flight and then show in the media use maybe that was also have something i'm sure they do don't to have a friendship difficult or a lot of what and that's why the issues the issues are provoked by defective that does when to take from others what belongs to them. and they utilize the power to do so. it is unfortunately some of the agreements that have a,

a forced, like the one that now we're talking about that we're going to have, this is 5, is forced into the if you were to be honest and tell the tools for these really prime minister says that his country is ready to get back into it and review. so it's, um, it's a tech on how much should the 2nd phase of the sci fi agreement collapse? do you think this will actually, why is it the was keep them quiet when one kind of threatened another country like this? when we have the united nations of whatever it and why was what no matter how much we discussed with the issue is there is no equality would always smarter. one would always suffer. so is it much of that at times of feeling? you don't want to say even anything because the word is not on this too. it's

set. do you think? said african countries i've taken seriously when it comes to via input in resolutions for conflicts to do to, to some degree that times that again, it would depend what are the conflict with the conflict. so the 2 big country is, believe it is only them who must say some of the people. yes . unless they're under pressure. mm hm. so some are taken but not the majority of it. and is it because, as i believe, africa, ease in important to continue that

important coincidence which must speed jump ohio to reach is to the position because of foot. uh, africa has many, many things that the kind of outside of his need bestsellers and why they were able to at least give the sees to come to of because a good to know that for that has ever said. but because precisely because of that pretends way put it to a place where they should not be taken very serious was if you have been caught them nice and us deals in directly color nice us be a week or fact. so that goes to get that we've what input

that to make is a taken. so this was easily seen for an example. no go into one this they would do . so if they want to come in at tech, they would click on that take i'm so just to make them more clear what them say that duffy was kid because his country was beginning to say, africa must spend on his old ended leaves in his own life and for that, because he was talking loudly, he had to be killed by civilized christian kind of people when he had committed. okay. it said that the top part of our country to think africa has what it takes to be independent. then you spoke about slavery, colonize ation, and still being in direct queue,

colonized through the systems and what is actually happening in the african continent to do think africa can stand on its own and stand up against big bullies as some have put it against countries like america that can make threats against countries like you that have come in to use some of our research. as i said, it depends what type of an issue of a situation we're talking about where they can only cut. ready otherwise, once the western countries seats these ones and now it's becoming too big for the size, they will come in and they've done so enough for that came in when the number of times just before the death was cute, was the last president who into to his country i went there to talk to him

when metal was bombarding. that's kind and said i was given instructions to the president of and gotten to that to, to fly this way. lawyer came over and people come from europe till i see an effort into i didn't charge that tells you the story of this coincidence at the, at, it was because he was very clear about a foot in the west intended to know 20. and the kid that's of the, to we have and the many developments that are happening in the african continent. look at what's happening in mozambique, for example. you speak of the duffy, who you say was killed because of his view about africa and wanting it to stand on its own. we do a political experience, mr. lula. and given the fact that you now have this m k party,

which is that said, because political part in south africa do think africa would be able to come together and spend to get those seeing what is happening in this a hell region. for example. yes, i think i forgot it this time. we've reached a point that we can in fact come to get we can in fact put to of got into our hands and develop it. you know, the of the is the big countries for my colonize us. in particular, with the west who want to keep food down so that they are able to benefit from of the, the, to control of it. what is left is that effort that should come together

and it's better to have a country africa and our control with our results is in our hands. i think you can not if we look at the historic perfect tied to i do that after the guy is screwed, blah blah blah. when so you'll, you'll, you'll have countries that the state of coordinating themselves, my, the board to kansas. is it difficult? is it difficult to see? i think of that, here's the least to the point. as, as you said there was in gun i think the discussion that we had with the leadership in god. is it kind of an open? is it kind of a discussion that has not happened in the past the

midnight in which we did? we see africa, how we want africa to be on that is control. how afraid the most benefit from from the the cheese of the continent. i think the debate is changing and, and, and it does, it matter of time that a food that one of these days is going to be due for it. literally just to make the point here. when the former coloring, it is color knives in countries with face do with the issue of how to control effort. hm. they then come up to what was called code. the task could be

task weight in they we, glenn wise in the countries how to remove the lead this enough so that they put their own puppets. right. it took a long time as it is that what is called a co detox was hate. it was a how to take such good lead does like women go to them and many as the subject was initiated by the colonized this they would buy people so that people are able to, to debra this for their own interests. you know what is happening now, they have to that. who does it does happen as it is act of that

kind of a good because that habit people don't see the difference between those who does and does what for the court, the ties that they've taken place now? i said to friends, enough is enough. take the color you will. yeah. yeah, to our minded must be yeah. if we would not misled will not be say we cannot to pick these people as i was because the zip code to tall is just that name. they don't understand these young people that say enough is enough that tells you way of today's going. we uh same lift that did that belong to of the the to come and the remaining of it and is call it. what has been done is

absolutely correct. why should the phrase 1st please be seated enough? why so the money be brought from a fence to feed us when we have good. oh, that tells you that as the car is turning the corner, it is eligibility. it is a i, i have a clear understanding of what is happening because of the, i know that because which way, defeating the ends of a free that processed by european zip code because of the applicants defending themselves, taking themselves out of the kind of what these colonies have done to us but to some of some of class,

even of we don't see was due to an to the put it in my way. is that doing it on the blah, blah, blah. know that actually taking the struggle to liberate a freak out. a day and me, i supported, i couldn't tell you unless it is it kind of uh, it could be kind of like the ones before these ones. i said, let africa look a very simple you've been ties to me. the with the, you'll visit to kind of saying that there were discussions that i'm moving towards this idea of africa strengthening itself. do you want to give us a little bit of those discussions and the future plan? no, no, i'm just talking with the discussions in general. i don't think i'm talking about the details. i'm talking over the that we as african we,

i now say time is come for us to lose. our kansas time is come for us to have a what is all, sees a looking after the african people belonging to them one to buy gold. the hen silva and evidence you must buy, must not take what it does, is it and good to didn't come and sell it for us. that's why i say that must be the understanding and the quality and everything you can talk about. that's what we're talking about. that's what i'm saying of that is pending according mutually beneficial relations of civic. uh now let's move on to media. and since the ship r t, the platform we are on now is celebrating 20 years in december. and it seems

to be growing audiences in the global south. what do you think all of our, to the existence in the space of the county, western media or western news that is being spread over because people don't have access to our tea. a want to get a view from you as to what you think about what are twos doing in giving the global south a voice encountering west and media. what i think when the question of communication had been, must ed by do was in country is many, many, many years ago and many good things have been put aside by the media police. i think after the guy has even

said 2 more quick to stand on our own to tell our own stories to tell his daughters of with those within the i know doing that. i think the problem is that the donation of the west in word media has been there for the st. louis as many people think it is like things that to a made by gold or 10 come on when it is not identical. what time is come, that we should spend an hour on tell our own stories, not see it to test the tooth. that goes. that these us is come from our country. they belong to us with a friend the to say, so they want me to sleep. where they think this belong to the who gave the

where they given by board will to did by a force whatever. now, if in my view, we have not to reach that point to tell the truth of the teas. yes, it may be find that we had beginning to do something, but the men, i want us to tell the truth as it is to think since the ship against our teeth is justified when i, i'm not sure about that because i don't think why should people be stopped from saying what they're saying when i that this can say anything they want and justify . weiss built that still by the people who went go when things who come it beforehand. why think that to me, after getting for an example, the content studies at only the big country that they would tell the story

as much say that's part of why they've been saying, since we've discussed that debate is a lot say that kind of every feed even at times, by the way, even christian, at times they say to put in things, but they have to say and they're supposed to be who, who didn't know so. so my view is that let us eat quad the things because you cut the things to see where they would take their immediate ease. so whatever that is for luis loves, say that it behaves in what should be done in this world. why should some, some other people have ever seen, others don't have if they don't have by so, you know, kind of take it, they just, so they chose to increase the costs so that you have nothing, no money. okay,

and we will kind of bleach today. i think it's not fine. once that as i let you go, mr. will not resend. see, president trump held at a press briefing where he engaged members of the media. and we heard him saying how he feels that the negotiations we must abide and was involved in relation to nato and russia. she missed them up. that's what she said. mr. trump's, and by the midst of the negotiations up and so far as ukraine joining nato. and he says he would have handled it differently. you know, russia, you've been a politician for a number of years. russia has relations with south africa. when you hear mr. donald trump sing things like that. do you agree that the decision by america,

to back to create in, in the way that it did when it comes to nato, was correct. why would people from united states for that too much sped, that was in russia to a country that is for my last year we can do as much as it may, but this kind of little ones to good and wanted to send a v web portal is that too cute uh, the less you the send button button for a tab. he's sitting there is encouraging that he's allowing his signing himself to start businesses the which was way also to help increase the military a table for last year. i'm real sure. i didn't see such a man was that right?

let's put that out before because we, we always say one piece say who ends for piece, blah, blah, blah. but this piece is one side that is not a piece of that is on this key. and therefore, i think what i've said so far from, from that he could not, the waste is money in the last year. the was a good big country to do little absolutely correct. i think so. it would be remiss of me of off to a for of questions defend questions, his excellency. it would be remiss of me to not to say as we wrap it up, is there anything that you would like to say based on this type of discussion that we have? i think we'll discuss sufficient what,

what i thought this. i mean, i did not say much because i knew who spoke to me at some point in the day. i said fine to discuss other things. i think we've discussed quite a lot of things. i could say more if you want me to book i didn't took anything tomorrow morning. ok. well thank you so much for your time. we really do appreciate it. we know you are very busy. man. with the m k par to new in south africa shaking up the political landscape. we really do appreciate you taking the time to talk to us on our t. thank you very much. the donald trump's return to the white house is world historic by any measure to 47th,

the president has the advantage of being the 45th. on top of that, he won the popular vote. he has amended, what does he have in store for the if you think about russia, what does your mind picture the bottom landscapes open up before your lines? the water one does you imagine the, the discounts dodge the journey? the,

the you ready to come to the israel launch is what is cooling, a major anti terrorist operation in the west bank cutting 10 palestinians shortly off at the start of the gun was a speech class and a change of hands and the wide shaky pace agreements these palestinians were turning to the enclave, only to find the hoses levels. since the un save of a 90 percent of guns is infrastructure has been destroyed. the complete and total destruction there is no life at all in the north. the house has destroyed and reduced to rubble.